69 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 7-24-20

  1. I don’t know what it is, but it’s prettier than the other picture.
    I am wearing a red striped shirt this morning. Not deliberately, I just reached in and pulled this out. But I think there is some significance.

    I see in the news that the policeman who killed George Floyd is accused of tax evasion. He’s in real trouble now.
    Good morning everyone!

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  2. QoD: Anyone else had a “terrible, horrible, no good, very bad” week? My coworkers and I were overbooked and overworked; someone took offense and complained to the manager; there was a familial row over living arrangements; and we had an oil spill in our basement…

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  3. Thankfully, all patients were seen as needed, my manager believed me and is not blaming me, the living arrangements situation has reached a longer term solution, and the oil spill has been cleaned up and the smell almost entirely dissipated.

    On a lighter note, I came home last night to find the youngest households members excited that they were going to “sleep outside”. The Second’s church created a socially distanced summer program for the families of the church, and this week included a campout in one’s backyard or living room. The Seconds bravely prepared their tent greenhouse, now emptied of plants, for them to share with their small children for a night outside. Sixth’s enthusiasm flowed over into invitations to his grandparents and I to join them, assuring us there would be room for us all on his parents large air mattress – we were delighted at his generosity by proxy but did not take him up on the offer. Last evening, as I visited with my mother, Tiny and Sixth came bounding in the room, clad in pajamas and each with a napsack on their backs, prepared to accompany their mother to their outside bedroom. Tiny, with a nonchalant air, informed us that her napsack contained, “two stuffed and two books”, as if it were an experience to which she was accustomed. Sixth, whose naive eagerness kept leading him to attempt to make unauthorized exits from the house, said his napsack had “lots of things”, but did not elaborate further. They stayed out all night, but it is as yet unknown if the parents actually slept.

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  4. I would like to hear the explanation of “social distancing” to a group of children and teens.
    And what happens when the “adult” leaves.

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  5. Chas, Tiny has the phrase “social distancing” very pat. Sixth has even been heard to speak it. But the summer program I mentioned that their church has put together is for each family to do individually in their own homes. The church put together packages of lessons, craft materials, and activity suggestions for each family with children in the church. So, Tiny and Sixth have been learning Bible stories, memorizing verses, and doing fun activities. Last week, the lesson was about Jesus’ feeding the five thousand, and the activity was baking a cake, so we benefited from the lesson too 🙂

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  6. Good Morning. I will be showing someone rentals today. I don’t usually do this because it earns a whopping $150 a best, but the agent who had to leave due to a FB post was working with these people and I can’t abandon them.
    In other news I have two agents trying to out do the other on “protecting” their client. Because they are both my agent they need to remember to back up and be a transaction broker not a single agent of the buyer or seller. Individually they are a challenge. Together? I would love to tell them both to go fly a kite.

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  7. Morning! That is a most beautiful photo up there…and yes I looked and looked to find a bug or bird of some sort and came up with nothing…therefore it must simply be a photo of very beautiful foliage 😊

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  8. Pandemic trivia: The term “social distancing” was used during the 1918 Spanish flu (which, by the way, did not originate in Spain).

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  9. On my breaks, I have been using my phone internet to look up information to Bible questions I or my mother have asked. I was reflecting aloud to my mother that there was nothing unbibilical about nomadic cultures. I pointed out that Christians were called “strangers and pilgrims”, a phrase also applied to the father of faith, Abraham, who was a nomad. My mother then quoted Paul’s “and having food and raiment, let us therewith be content.” She said she always wondered why Paul hadn’t included shelter. I made the point that the clothing and the shelters of nomads are often made of the same materials as each other. So, on my lunch break the other day, I looked up the word translated ‘raiment’ in Paul’s quote and found it meant ‘covering’, thus further conveying the sense of nomadic shelter and clothing both. Paul himself was a nomad, a wanderer, and so,of course, was our Lord, who said that foxes and birds had more permanent dwellings than he did. That sense of impermanence of place is a painful one, as I have experienced it multiple times in the last 15 years, but that lack of rooting can lead to greater dependence on the One who shepherds our wanderings. When Jesus told the rich young ruler to sell his possessions and follow him, he was not asking for a work of self sacrifice to gain greater merit, he was asking for a wild faith that fastened itself to only one security and risked everything else to gain it.

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  10. In serching the web, I found this:
    “WATCH: Rapper T.I. Wants $44 Trillion In Slavery Reparations”

    There ain’t no such thing as $44 trillion.
    Who would get the money?
    Who would pay it. Not me. I came up the hard way. JUst like everyone else.
    As for “discrimination” , my first boss at AMS was a black man. And I once worked for a back woman.

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  11. Re: Kim’s link”
    The problem is that criticism of Obama is taken as discrimination. But race has nothing to do with it. He was a bad president and his legacy is worse.
    But people have been afraid to discuss it openly because of accusations.

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  12. What kind of person has time and energy to stay up fifty seven nights in a row for protesting and rioting? Somebody needs to get a day job.

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  13. Mumsee, this is not spontaneous.
    Somebody or something is behind it
    They have money.

    Ask yourself this. “Protesters. Who/what are they protesting? What will it take to satisfy them? Where do they eat and sleep? “

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  14. I put in a somewhat restless night, after Tess’ pain med wore off she was up and limping and just wanted to sleep outside in the dirt. I let her for a while but brought her in with a leash at around 2 a.m. By 5 a.m. she was wanting out again, so I opened the sliding door & left it ajar, but looks like she’s spent that whole time out there. I’m hoping my vet calls with the bloodwork results so we can talk personally today. He did apparently examine her when she was in yesterday and I want to see what he thinks is going on. She’s trying now not to put any weight on the right rear leg and it’s giving her trouble when she tries to get up (which may be why sleeping outside is easier, she can get more traction when she lies, as she does, in a soft depression in the dirt.

    As for me, I go back to PT today (I have the day off from work) but I think my next step will have to be contacting the orotho MD again maybe on Monday to see if we need to set up an MRI. This knee just isn’t getting much (if any) better. I set up a patient portal with the doctor’s office so I may see if I can send a note to them today just letting them know the shot wasn’t (so far) of much help.

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  15. Sadly, I’ve seen this, too.

    “With politics, the theological “training” consists mainly of education about issues and controversies that Christians should be aware of and concerned about. Conservative Christian political engagement, for example, is largely defined by the defense of religious liberty and the protection of the unborn. These issues are important, and our faith principles should inform our political positions.

    We do not, however, spend nearly enough time learning how to live as political beings within a political community. We connect our faith with our political objectives but do far less work connecting our faith to our political conduct or our theological priorities.. This is not the way we engage with other significant areas of life.

    Christian teaching about our lives in our workplaces is not primarily about how to obtain a promotion, how to invest our money, or how to start a business. In other words, it’s not about the objectives of economic engagement, though those objectives are important. Instead, the focus is on ministering to colleagues, cultivating faith in adversity, and generally learning how to be salt and light even in sometimes hostile or intimidating environments. . . .

    You get the idea—time and again, in critical areas of life, Christians are rightly taught that the objective of the secular activity is less important than the manner with which you engage with your community. In every context commandments regarding our conduct aren’t conditioned on levels of adversity. Duties of honesty and kindness don’t slide away when bankruptcies loom or failures threaten our plans—even when those failures can have grave consequences for our lives. . . .

    There’s your good friend, the person who’d give you the shirt off his back, show up any hour to help a person in need, and would never compromise his values in his marriage or his business—yet there he is, absolutely flaming the libs on Facebook, rejecting the “Gates Vaccine,” and reveling in the most outrageous attacks on his political opponents.

    Or there’s the incredibly sweet woman at church. She volunteers in the nursery. She shows up for every community work day to serve the city’s poorest and most disadvantaged kids. And yet she’ll send you Alex Jones clips, trying to prove to you how bad “they” (Democrats) really are.

    . . . Unlike in their businesses, marriages, and schools, compliance with commandments is conditioned on immediate results.”

    https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-and

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  16. I had a chance to read and catch up on the news during my sleepless times overnight. I see LA, which is in the midst of making a major cut to its police force, now is seeing an uptick in homicides and shootings. Nothing like Chicago, but still. We’ve had some pretty low homicide numbers in recent years and it looks like that’s about to change.

    The drastic cuts to police departments seems to have been so knee-jerk, everyone wanting to be on the “right” side of the racial argument. Without much of any discussion and only 2 (out of 15) city council votes opposing it, $150,000 was slashed from the LA city’s police department. And I’ve heard police officers now are quite demoralized, understandably, holding back on the job at times for fear something will go awry. They’d only wind up being automatically fired and possibly even publicly shamed on the evening news first before any type of fair investigation could be conducted. Why risk it?

    The cutbacks will cause a number of officers and many of the department’s civilian employees to be let go, meanwhile.

    LA now is looking at sending city transportation employees out on traffic stops which sounds ludicrous to me. That’s being questioned by the police chief, but he’s on the hot seat and being pressured to do many things that I suspect he believes are unwise. He’s got to dance to the music being played by the city council & mayor, however. A number of folks just want him fired.

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  17. EMS is next to resist going out without police cover. In some areas, if the EMS folk don’t feel safe, they are not required to answer the call–so they go on. There are many consequences to this short-sighted behavior that people don’t acknowledge.

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  18. Kizzie, I’m sure that exists (Christians railing on social media), but I honestly don’t see much of it. But maybe it’s the area in which I live, the more common response to the cultural mayhem has been silence, for the most part. I think there’s a strong stereotype that some have about Christians who “rail” — and all stereotypes are born of some truth, of course, so I’m not saying that’s not going on.

    But that’s not really the people I see “railing” these days in public or on social media. Still, that’s only an anecdotal observation made from just where I stand, so I may be missing all of that in other places or circles.

    Still, it is a good reminder to us what our primary mission, demeanor and focus ought to be in any society where God places us, no matter how difficult the circumstances may be.

    The church in the west has been weak and too ineffective for many decades (or more) now, too caught up in the political spats of the age or too separated in any meaningful way from our non-Christian neighbors. May this difficult period we find ourselves in now provide a way for that to begin to change.

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  19. Michelle, I think that’s so true. This is going to have some really serious blowback fairly soon and maybe some city leaders will heed the wake-up call.

    It was like people just lost their heads. Slash the police force? Sure! Let’s do it!

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  20. Oh, and it’s $150 million that’s being cut from the LAPD, not $150,000. Kind of the same in my real world finances, of course 🙂 , but a big difference otherwise.

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  21. DJ, I’m not on Facebook, so I’m not seeing what my family members are posting. But I’ve heard them talk about what they’re posting, and almost certainly some of it fits Kizzie’s caution. Some don’t think there’s a pandemic, for instance, and they think the economy was shut down for purely political reasons that had nothing at all to do with the disease.

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  22. DJ and Kizzie, I see what Kizzie’s link describes constantly, from several separate Christians on my FB feed who have become hyperactive during this time – they used to post the occasional politically charged post, but now it is a constant barrage of conspiracy theories and complaints – and I know still others not on social media that hold to the same views. Their posts take up at least 50 percent of my feed now.

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  23. There is so much waste that goes on in any government department that $15 million is probably frittered away on unnecessary items in a department the size of LA’s. If the department were well handled and free of corruption, such a cut could have minimal effect, but the would require a determination to trim the fat off the pork in order to benefit others. There are other things to consider about causation with a rise in crime rates, other factors to consider (eg. the pandemic, the shutdown, high unemployment, etc.) and the kinds of crimes being committed more frequently (e.g. domestic violence murders vs. gang related murders). A well funded police force does not automatically correlate to a more peaceful community, as a powerful policing system can be a threat and is often a feature of dictatorships (something that American conservatives have often pointed out in the past with regards to limiting government overreach). Loss of commitment to others with an increasing ‘every man for himself’ mentality is really what is behind a community’s disintegration and a rise in crime.

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  24. That should be $150 million, and the LAPD budget is over 3 billion, with 1.8 billion being discretionary. So 150 million is less than 10 percent of the discretionary budget alone.

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  25. Cheryl, yes, I’ve heard the same things from Christians I know — it’s largely a “conservative” (politically-speaking) belief now. And yes, some in my church apparently adhere to that as well.

    Social media definitely has compounded the cultural divide. During this really difficult period, it’s exploded even more so.

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  26. And in California, it’s the left that’s heard the most and loudest when it comes to social media. Many level-headed conservatives simply don’t respond publicly.

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  27. But fewer police on patrols can make a difference. Overall, the department will be back to 2008 levels. Can some things be “done” differently with less funding with a positive result? Yes. Will fewer police resources translate into higher crime rates? Very possibly, or even most likely, many believe. Will crime victims see slower responses? Likely as well, according to critics.

    Of course, the funding cuts don’t begin to satisfy the demands for a 90% cut.

    Let’s see where the crime stats go in the next year or two.

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  28. Buttonbush, right, AJ?

    Roscuro, my week hasn’t exactly been sweet and wonderful. I had two further contacts with my sister, an e-mail from her (which I eventually answered) and a phone call to her house to tell my niece happy birthday. She’s 15 and the only daughter of my only sister; I had envisioned that by now we would have a tender and meaningful relationship. Instead, she has been very reserved most of her life, only in the last year or so moving beyond the one-word answers of the phone conversation one has with a child.

    And my sister declined to let me speak with her. Instead, she and I talked for two hours, down-the-rabbit-hole stuff, with her insisting I was being “manipulative” and “lying” because I wasn’t willing to describe a photograph with the same words she wanted me to use.

    At the end, I needed to get off the phone to have lunch, and I told her to tell her daughter “happy birthday” from me. She said she would, and said I could call back later if I wanted (presumably that she would let me speak to her that time). I called back in 45 minutes or an hour and got voice mail.

    It’s a reminder–not that I needed one–that no matter what I do, this isn’t going anywhere, and it isn’t my choice and it isn’t my fault. I half expected her to cut off access to the children at some point because I am not meeting her demands. But it makes me quite sad nonetheless.

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  29. DJ, one thing that irks me about how departments deal with budget cuts is how they immediately slash jobs. Why don’t they find ways to limit spending, such as not buy the nice to have but really unnecessary new equipment, or delay a pay rise, or sell superfluous assets, etc.? I have an inkling of the answer. People losing a way to make a livelihood is powerful political theatre, and even the union would rather make an example of how many people would loose their jobs from a budget cut would cost, than agree to a delay in raised pay or a reduction in benefits. Defunding the police is one of those radical, ‘out there’ ideas that people find polarizing, but concerns had been previously raised about the excessive militarization and overfunding of police forces, by people on both sides of the political spectrum. I recall such concerns being posted about on World, in the context of a Democratic presidency and the recurrent spectre of gun control. It is a pity that reforms that both sides have expressed to be necessary should be so hamstrung by polarization.

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  30. Cheryl, I know the pain. The familial row reopened old wounds that had, by mutual agreement, been left to close. It was extremely painful, and while we have been able to move forward, everything is still very raw and tender and we are careful with each other. I have a large part to play in all of this of course, as the single daughter who came back home after going away, and it has been horrible to feel like the bone of contention. It has not helped that during this time of shutdown, I have been working a fairly well paying job on the frontlines (and thus potentially, though never actually putting the household at risk), while the other wage earner in the household has been struggling to find work. I have always been conscious of how potentially galling that could be, and have been quietly trying to alleviate the situation, but, when emotions run high, the best of intentions gets completely misunderstood.

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  31. I get the concerns about the militarization movement and see the point there. Community-based policing has been a better aim, I think, where officers are somewhat tied to and involved in the community.

    We’ve fostered some of that in our community — we’re LAPD but we are one of several geographic divisions (harbor division in our case). There have been some active senior lead officers who are tied in with community members, they share their cell phone #s with citizens. And there’s a community – police advisory board made up of dozen of citizens who have fostered a strong relationship with local officers.

    Unfortunately, the division captains are moved around too frequently in many peoples’ minds. We had a good one some years ago, he was born and raised here and returned to become the division captain. He still had family ties in town. But (good for him) he was promoted and now works downtown again.

    The current one doesn’t seem to be as community connected and friendly or accessible — but we have some good officers and there really is a bond that’s been created with community councils and activists which has all helped.

    None of them, of course, are crazy about the departmental cuts, the local division was already short officers and in the process for a couple years now of getting patrol units back up to par so there would be faster response times, etc.

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  32. Thanks Cheryl.

    His statement “Therefore, in response to the recent state order requiring churches in California to limit or suspend all meetings indefinitely … ”

    Maybe I’ve missed something, but that’s not how I’ve read the ‘order.’ Churches are to meet only in outdoor settings, but they can continue to meet.

    Singing was another issue a couple weeks earlier, and I can see the problems there somewhat in that the government can be viewed there as saying what can or can’t happen as part of a worship service. Not their role. But I could accept a recommendation to limit or carefully guard congregations with regard to singing in an indoor setting especially.

    But to me this isn’t an arbitrary rule that has no basis in protecting the public good. I realize there are differing ideas about this virus, but based on the mainstream medical thought, experience and ongoing reports, there is reason for fairly broad-based (but reasonable) precautions.

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  33. It will be interesting if some states such as ours goes further and again does a more widespread shutdown which could include all in-person church gatherings. That, I think now, would get more opposition than it did the first time around.

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  34. DJ – Sadly, I do have a handful of Facebook friends who fit the description in the French article, and some seem to have no problem with trampling on the ninth commandment. 😦

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  35. Which always brings me back to the weakness of the western church, especially in these areas of sound faith and practice — and probably also a lack of any church discipline to speak of. If pastors see their flock posting these things in public, do they address them with the individual? Do these individuals even have pastors or have membership in a Bible-based church? Are these churches teaching how we are to speak and behave in between Sunday mornings?

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  36. Covid seems to be finished wreaking havoc, at least for now, at Nightingale’s nursing home. As a result, the number of residents is down quite a bit. The administrators (from “on high”, not necessarily the ones who work on site) have issued an order that staff is not allowed to work overtime at all, and have cut the number of nurses and CNAs working each shift. So, although there are fewer residents, there are now more residents per nurse and CNA on each shift.

    Nightingale says that on a usual day on her wing, it is pretty much impossible to get everything done in time to leave on time. Leaving work for the next shift nurse to take care of will put that nurse behind, and on and on.

    She is also concerned about finances, because there are few to no shifts to “pick up” as she usually tries to do for a few times each month. So she is thinking of finding a per diem job elsewhere to fill in (but keeping this job, too).

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  37. Some theological flaws in MacArthur’s statement. The church does have the responsibilty to interfere in the family, when members of that family are members of the church and not walking as church members are to walk – an adulterous husband who is a church member, for instance. Similarly, the government’s responsibility of bearing the sword extends to those who break the law, even if they are within the church – the unwillingness to hand abusers over to the secular authorities has been a shameful thing to the church. Furthermore, these regulations for public health extend to all religious gatherings such as synagogues, temples and mosques, not just churches, and also non-religious gatherings such as community choirs, so it is not a matter of regulating worship, but of seeking public safety that is driving these recommendations, and that lies wholly within the government’s purview as laid out in Romans 13. Finally, MacArthur makes the odd argument that the church has such a mandate to refuse to obey in this matter as governments move away from biblical truths. Did he ever stop to think of the context Paul was writing in? The Roman Empire was about as far as possible from Biblical truth, and Paul was living during the reign of Nero, whom even the Romans found excessively immoral. The mandate of the church in relation to the government does not change according to whether the government is God honouring or not, Paul meant what he said about every government being ordained by God. When Christians do have to break the laws of a government in order to obey God, as the early church did, they have to be prepared to receive the ordained punishment for doing so, being very careful that they are suffering for well doing, and not for evil doing. There is nothing in the New Testament mandating that Christians must meet in large groups, or that they have to sing upon every meeting. If the government asks its citizens to observe certain precautions when meeting in groups in order to protect each other, there are many ways in which churches can modify their practices to accomodate the government. The early church in Jerusalem may have had thousands of members, but they didn’t all meet together at once – they wouldn’t have all fit in one of their house meeting. The spiritual dangers of megachurches have long been pointed out, maybe this is God’s way of making large churches spread out. After all, when the church in Jerusalem failed to spread out as commanded, God brought in persecution to make them do so. The case of excessive entertainment in church music has also been long lamented. Perhaps the Lord is tired of the worship wars and is shaking things up a bit. If government is God’s tool, it would be well for the church to humbly consider what God might be using it to teach us.

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  38. Busy today at the cave.I was training a new person at the ticket counter. Glad she was there to take some of the pressure when it got busy. Now I’m exhausted.

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  39. It has been a day of lunch and shopping with granddaughter…she found some pretty things and thanked me profusely… I told her I have not had opportunity to “spoil” her and this is my chance. She is just a gracious young lady and chatty!! 😊
    I had my hair cut before we went shopping and I have been thoroughly scalped. My other gal moved so I went to one recommended by my neighbor. I told the new stylist just how I wanted it and boy does it ever not look like what I explained. But it will grow out one day…right?! 😳

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  40. Michelle, your 5:50 is not in response to MacArthur’s explaining why his church will reopen in spite of government orders. I assume that your comments earlier thus were also alluding to another subject. Could you provide a link and clarify?

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  41. In Georgia we set a new daily record for Covid cases, 4,800. I try not to be anxious, but being a numbers person, it seems rather distressing.

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  42. Michelle – Roscuro’s comment right before one of yours ended with, “If government is God’s tool, it would be well for the church to humbly consider what God might be using it to teach us.”

    Your comment was “I wish he would retire.”

    I had to laugh. (I know you were referring to MacArthur, not to God.)

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  43. Sad and disappointing with your sister, Cheryl. I’m sorry she’s still doing the same ole, same ole…

    Statewide discussions in our branch of MTNA started today with a Zoom meeting of District Auditions chairpersons regarding next spring’s auditions. This spring’s got canceled for most districts (a few early-bird districts had already held them in early March), so we want to be prepared with an alternative to canceling if COVID is still raging in Spring 2021.

    My internet cut out 3 minutes before the meeting started — of course — but the meeting was recorded and sent to all the DCs, and one of my teammates who was present took excellent notes and shared her thoughts with me and our other teammate.

    All three of us are in agreement that we want to do online auditions for the performing part (each district gets to decide for itself), but there are lots of considerations about how to make that happen. There’s also the matter of how to administer the music theory tests, with the written and aural components. There was some talk of dropping the aural (ear training) part of it and having the students’ parents or teachers administer the written test. Some also mentioned doing this testing via Zoom, but that format could be quite problematic for rural kids with spotty internet.

    Five people present at the Zoom today volunteered to form a statewide committee to further discuss how to put together and implement an online format, or a modified online/in-person format, or… They meet next month and will report back to the rest of us what suggestions, etc., they have, based on communications we’re also invited to give them over the course of the next few weeks.

    There are a lot of thoughtful and experienced DCs statewide, and I have terrific fellow DCs locally. We work together well, so that is a definite plus as we navigate new territory together.

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  44. Thanks Michelle, somebody had a lot of fun with that! I had not seen the video but had heard they had done it. That was the forty foot square boulder covering the highway and then some. Pollock road has worked well though. There is a little bridge that has not been inspected in a long time carrying a lot more weight than planned for. They let semis across, one at a time.

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  45. Home from PT, therapist is changing course a bit (which is fine with me since we appear to be “stuck”). Going back to more functioning exercises and he is now recommending a knee compression sleeve to better stabilize the joint. There’s still considerable pain in my knee. The strengthening and stretching exercises were great, but didn’t seem to do the trick.

    Tess is doing better, praise be. I put in a request for the vet to call me so he can fill me in on what his physical exam found. But her bloodwork came back good, so that was positive news.

    I have liked MacArthur, he’s generally stable from what I know. His view on this — about the church and covid and the government — is shared by many sound Christians, including a number of folks in my own church, just not by me in this particular circumstance.

    We’re confusing inconvenience with oppression or persecution, I’m afraid.

    I fear too many in the church are eager for a ‘fight’ over this topic. To me, it’s not the issue where that’s warranted.

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  46. And, there’s this:

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/508991-supreme-court-again-rejects-church-challenge-to-virus-restriction

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    The Supreme Court in a split decision Friday rejected a Nevada church’s request that it block the state government from enforcing a cap on attendance at religious services.

    The decision was a 5-4 ruling, with Chief Justice John Roberts joining the liberal wing.

    The court’s order was unsigned and did not provide any reasoning, common practice when the high court acts on emergency applications. The court’s conservative justices filed three dissents.

    The decision comes in response to a suit from Calvary chapel Dayton Valley arguing that it was being treated unfairly compared to casinos, restaurants and amusement parks. Churches in the state have a firm 50-person limit, while other businesses have been told to cut their availability to half of their fire-code capacities. …

    … The Friday ruling marks the second time the high court has blocked an effort from a church to invalidate state restrictions on attendance. The court ruled 5-4 in a similar case in May to reject a challenge from a California church.

    “Although California’s guidelines place restrictions on places of worship, those restrictions appear consistent with the free exercise clause of the First Amendment,” Roberts wrote in May. “Similar or more severe restrictions apply to comparable secular gatherings, including lectures, concerns, movie showings, spectator sports and theatrical performances, where large groups of people gather in close proximity for extended periods of time.”
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