I have my foot in both camps. Socially and culturally, I prefer the poorer, rural Republicans. We drive out of the Metroplex to attend a rural church. Intellectually, I am with the urban Republicans who reject Trump and protectionism.
The divide is real. If you remove the toxic Trump from the mix, it may be possible to reunite the party.
If Paul Ryan remains as Speaker, these are the very difficult issues he must deal with over the next 20 years. Both the liberal Democrats and the moronic Trump are wrong or clueless on every one of these:
1. Removing or modifying the federal laws/subsidies that make our healthcare more than 50% more expensive than any other nation.
2. Removing or modifying the subsidies/loan programs that have caused higher education costs to soar and left millions of young people trapped in debt.
3. Tweaking the Social Security Ponzi scheme as Reagan did in the 80s so that it may continue.
4. Winning the argument against Sanders and Trump to keep America as a free trade country by educating our people about all the benefits of fee trade including cheap consumer items and the tens of millions of American jobs that are dependent on trade.
Given the number of Democrats and Trumpkins in the country, I would sign a book deal and move my family to New Zealand, Ireland or Chile. However, I respect Ryan for staying here and giving it a shot.
If Nov. 8 brings an epic rout (which I now anticipate, but I’ve been wrong before, remember), I think Trump as personality will fade pretty quickly from the scene.
How to find a way to bring his supporters into a larger conservative fold then becomes the challenge.
There will probably be a lot of residual anger anger the election among those who are convinced that Trump was shafted (by the GOP & the media). Others will see a big loss more as the fallout of nominating someone who was a horribly flawed candidate.
All the the above will play a role, of course, although I’d say it’s been Trump who chose to break from the Republican party. He’s doing it his way.
How that works out for him remains to be seen, but I think a lot of us have a feeling how it’ll all end.
The media? Many of the outlets have become rabid in their determination to defeat and bury Trump. Then again, Trump is a candidate who seems to have a giant, easy target painted all over him. So this is all pretty predictable.
It is already a mess Donna. Nobody can clean it up. The right person isn’t there. Not even the rejected Republican candidates can fix the mess we have now.
The Lord can, but He has his own schedule.
Just pray.
If you’re gonna be the guy who calls out Trump for his mouth and language in a decade old video/audio, you should probably not have a potty mouth in front of women in your own past. But I guess John gets a pass because he’s senile now.
CONTENT WARNING for F bombs and cusses galore, although they are beeped.
“The latest Rasmussen Reports White House Watch national telephone and online survey shows Trump with 43% support among Likely U.S. Voters to Clinton’s 41%. Yesterday, Clinton still held a four-point 43% to 39% lead over Trump, but that was down from five points on Tuesday and her biggest lead ever of seven points on Monday.
Rasmussen Reports updates its White House Watch survey daily Monday through Friday at 8:30 am Eastern based on a three-day rolling average of 1,500 Likely U.S. Voters. Monday’s survey was the first following the release of an 11-year-old video showing Trump discussing women in graphic sexual detail but did not include any polling results taken after the debate. All three nights of the latest survey follow Sunday’s debate.
Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson has dropped slightly to six percent (6%) support, while Green Party candidate Jill Stein holds steady at two percent (2%). Four percent (4%) still like some other candidate in the race, and another four percent (4%) remain undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Eighty-four percent (84%) now say they are certain how they will vote in this year’s presidential election, and among these voters, Trump posts a 49% to 46% lead over Clinton. Among voters who say they still could change their minds between now and Election Day, it’s Clinton 40%, Trump 37%, Johnson 19% and Stein four percent (4%).”
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Or perhaps voters see this for the media hit job it is, and are responding accordingly.
Sometimes I open my mouth and my father speaks. I have said for a long time that Trump is actually Team Hillary. We don’t know what’s in it for him. Perhaps he is on the brink of another bankruptcy or something, but I strongly suspect there is a backroom deal and he will land with the proverbial golden parachute when the dust settles. She is the first woman to head a major party going for President. Let’s look around and find the most despicable man we can to be the foil to get her elected. People will have NO choice but to vote for her because he is a mysogynistic jerk, homophobic, Islamaphobic, isolationist pig , anti-everything that she is guaranteed a landslide.
We have been snookered. We have been Springtime for Hitler’ed
Oh and part of the manipulation is that they have attacked him to the point that a few are contrary enough to vote for him because of all the ani-Trump speeches, commercials, etc to vote for him. I just listened to a speech by Michelle Obama telling us how we could not let him win and thought to myself, oh I’m going to vote for him just to show you that you can’t tell me what to do.
Sadly, people are believing what they see instead of what is. Mr. P just went to see the move about the Deep Water Horizon Oil Spill from April 2010. I lived through it. I had a cousin on it. His relief was one of the men killed. I can’t remember all the details now because it is 6 years later but one of the things from the movie he told me I knew to be false.
Our younger generations have been brain washed.
This is the end of the Old Religious Right. Young pastors and young Christians (I count Russell Moore as young) are rightly outraged that so many of the Old Guard disgraced the cause of Christ by endorsing Trump and sticking with him. Hopefully, pastors and college presidents will now stay out of politics and just do their jobs.
“Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may vote for Donald Trump, but he who is weak votes third party. Let not him who votes for Trump despise him who does not vote for Trump, and let not him who does not vote for Trump judge him who votes for Trump; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand . . . . Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.” (Romans 14:1-5, 21st Century Application).
Here is an article about the divide in the Republican Party.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441014/maine-republicans-cultural-divide-future-challenge-gop
I have my foot in both camps. Socially and culturally, I prefer the poorer, rural Republicans. We drive out of the Metroplex to attend a rural church. Intellectually, I am with the urban Republicans who reject Trump and protectionism.
The divide is real. If you remove the toxic Trump from the mix, it may be possible to reunite the party.
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If Paul Ryan remains as Speaker, these are the very difficult issues he must deal with over the next 20 years. Both the liberal Democrats and the moronic Trump are wrong or clueless on every one of these:
1. Removing or modifying the federal laws/subsidies that make our healthcare more than 50% more expensive than any other nation.
2. Removing or modifying the subsidies/loan programs that have caused higher education costs to soar and left millions of young people trapped in debt.
3. Tweaking the Social Security Ponzi scheme as Reagan did in the 80s so that it may continue.
4. Winning the argument against Sanders and Trump to keep America as a free trade country by educating our people about all the benefits of fee trade including cheap consumer items and the tens of millions of American jobs that are dependent on trade.
Given the number of Democrats and Trumpkins in the country, I would sign a book deal and move my family to New Zealand, Ireland or Chile. However, I respect Ryan for staying here and giving it a shot.
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If Nov. 8 brings an epic rout (which I now anticipate, but I’ve been wrong before, remember), I think Trump as personality will fade pretty quickly from the scene.
How to find a way to bring his supporters into a larger conservative fold then becomes the challenge.
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There will probably be a lot of residual anger anger the election among those who are convinced that Trump was shafted (by the GOP & the media). Others will see a big loss more as the fallout of nominating someone who was a horribly flawed candidate.
All the the above will play a role, of course, although I’d say it’s been Trump who chose to break from the Republican party. He’s doing it his way.
How that works out for him remains to be seen, but I think a lot of us have a feeling how it’ll all end.
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The media? Many of the outlets have become rabid in their determination to defeat and bury Trump. Then again, Trump is a candidate who seems to have a giant, easy target painted all over him. So this is all pretty predictable.
It’ll be a mess to clean up.
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It is already a mess Donna. Nobody can clean it up. The right person isn’t there. Not even the rejected Republican candidates can fix the mess we have now.
The Lord can, but He has his own schedule.
Just pray.
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If you’re gonna be the guy who calls out Trump for his mouth and language in a decade old video/audio, you should probably not have a potty mouth in front of women in your own past. But I guess John gets a pass because he’s senile now.
CONTENT WARNING for F bombs and cusses galore, although they are beeped.
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This is a really interesting read, about the new pro-life movement: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/cover_story/2016/10/the_future_of_the_pro_life_movement.html.
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Huh. You’d think he’d be buried by now, but the latest Rasmussen daily tracking says otherwise.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct13
“The latest Rasmussen Reports White House Watch national telephone and online survey shows Trump with 43% support among Likely U.S. Voters to Clinton’s 41%. Yesterday, Clinton still held a four-point 43% to 39% lead over Trump, but that was down from five points on Tuesday and her biggest lead ever of seven points on Monday.
Rasmussen Reports updates its White House Watch survey daily Monday through Friday at 8:30 am Eastern based on a three-day rolling average of 1,500 Likely U.S. Voters. Monday’s survey was the first following the release of an 11-year-old video showing Trump discussing women in graphic sexual detail but did not include any polling results taken after the debate. All three nights of the latest survey follow Sunday’s debate.
Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson has dropped slightly to six percent (6%) support, while Green Party candidate Jill Stein holds steady at two percent (2%). Four percent (4%) still like some other candidate in the race, and another four percent (4%) remain undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Eighty-four percent (84%) now say they are certain how they will vote in this year’s presidential election, and among these voters, Trump posts a 49% to 46% lead over Clinton. Among voters who say they still could change their minds between now and Election Day, it’s Clinton 40%, Trump 37%, Johnson 19% and Stein four percent (4%).”
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Or perhaps voters see this for the media hit job it is, and are responding accordingly.
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Orange Dracula is finally dead.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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Sometimes I open my mouth and my father speaks. I have said for a long time that Trump is actually Team Hillary. We don’t know what’s in it for him. Perhaps he is on the brink of another bankruptcy or something, but I strongly suspect there is a backroom deal and he will land with the proverbial golden parachute when the dust settles. She is the first woman to head a major party going for President. Let’s look around and find the most despicable man we can to be the foil to get her elected. People will have NO choice but to vote for her because he is a mysogynistic jerk, homophobic, Islamaphobic, isolationist pig , anti-everything that she is guaranteed a landslide.
We have been snookered. We have been Springtime for Hitler’ed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtime_for_Hitler
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Oh and part of the manipulation is that they have attacked him to the point that a few are contrary enough to vote for him because of all the ani-Trump speeches, commercials, etc to vote for him. I just listened to a speech by Michelle Obama telling us how we could not let him win and thought to myself, oh I’m going to vote for him just to show you that you can’t tell me what to do.
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When he cancels on Hannity, we know that orange Dracula is afraid to come out of his coffin.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/13/media/donald-trump-media-strategy/
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This fantasy article is more interesting than accounts of the latest, breaking Trump grope.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440960/replace-donald-trump-electoral-college-ballots
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Kim, I am partial to the version from the ’60s.
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Matt Walsh dealt with our topic from yesterday:
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Thanks Ricky, I almost posted that but had to answer the phone and work…
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The left is certainly becoming increasingly annoying, aren’t they?
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Ah, Gene Wilder. 🙂
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We need historians and honest reporters (no offense, Donna).
Do you realize what is happening in the world, right now?
In the last 48 hours Putin called home to Russia, all the dependents of diplomats.
The UN is debating a resolution denying Israel any connection to the Temple on the Mount.
Does anyone know what is going on Syria?
If you were a bad guy, what day would you consider attacking?
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Conservatives are being censored on Youtube and Twitter.
Wikileaks has exposed the formation of a plot for a “Catholic Spring”–to undermine the teachings and dogma of the Catholic Church.
Smoke and mirrors in the media–squirrels!
This is serious–and it’s being buried and those pointing out truth are being muzzled.
“Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we will trust in the name of the Lord our God.”
We can do no else.
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http://www.catholicleague.org/hillary-is-now-the-issue-not-podesta/
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Sadly, people are believing what they see instead of what is. Mr. P just went to see the move about the Deep Water Horizon Oil Spill from April 2010. I lived through it. I had a cousin on it. His relief was one of the men killed. I can’t remember all the details now because it is 6 years later but one of the things from the movie he told me I knew to be false.
Our younger generations have been brain washed.
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538 is writing about Evan McMullin’s chance of winning based on carrying Utah and throwing the election into the House.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-evan-mcmullin-could-win-utah-and-the-presidency/
Based on current trends, I expect Arnold Weaver to pull ahead of Trump in Texas next week.
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Wow, looks like the kill Trump campaign has exploded everywhere. No holding back in the next few weeks, it’s scorched earth from here on out.
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This is the end of the Old Religious Right. Young pastors and young Christians (I count Russell Moore as young) are rightly outraged that so many of the Old Guard disgraced the cause of Christ by endorsing Trump and sticking with him. Hopefully, pastors and college presidents will now stay out of politics and just do their jobs.
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“Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may vote for Donald Trump, but he who is weak votes third party. Let not him who votes for Trump despise him who does not vote for Trump, and let not him who does not vote for Trump judge him who votes for Trump; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand . . . . Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.” (Romans 14:1-5, 21st Century Application).
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As I’ve said, this is a very tough election. People see things in a different light and come to a different conclusion.
Overall it’s very depressing I think for almost all of us. It can’t be over soon enough. 😦
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I haven’t received a ballot yet, so will probably not be able to vote at all.
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