Did anyone else catch that Yankees game last night? š
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I knew we were in for it when the first question was on the Supreme Court. Trump explained his reasoning for the appointment, did a good job explaining it. Then it was Biden’s turn and he turned it into a rant about how 170 million people were gonna lose their Obamacare. What?!
Trump interrupted continually. He should have just let him go on. But he can’t. š¦
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I admit I grew tired of it all rather quickly and just watched the game for the last half hour. š
Also Wallace repeatedly dinged Trump for interrupting, which he should. But a fair moderator would have done the same to Biden, who interrupted on nearly every one of his opponents questions too.
“First Presidential Debate Quick Take: Aggressive Trump, Old Biden
Andrew Sullivan: āIāve never seen Biden seem so old or so weak. He canāt land a strong blow. Heās being successfully heckled. I want to look away.ā
“What a sātshow. Chris Wallace was horrible, at times literally arguing with Trump, and continually reprimanding Trump for interrupting when interruptions were bipartisan during the debate ā Biden did it continually.
Hard to assess who āwonā ā Iām too close to it.
Trump did very well on law and order. Just when Biden had a potentially deadly moment of debate silence when Trump pressed him to name a single law enforcement group that supported Biden, and Biden had no answer, Wallace saved him by changing the subject.”
I donāt think Trump won people over, but I could see Bidenās image as the supposed nice guy being damaged.”
“The first thing Iāll say about last nightās debate is more of an overall impression than anything else. Joe Biden surprised me. Thereā¦ I said it. He managed to meet the exceedingly low bar that had been set for him by staying awake for the entire debate and not soiling his undergarments on stage. (That we know of, anyway.) He definitely engaged in some verbal wandering at points, but for the most part, he managed to stay on topic and didnāt completely veer off into lala land. So he had that going for him.
With that out of the way, we should probably dig into some of the substance. If youāre looking for a list of the Presidentās more dubious claims or exaggerations, there will be no shortage of them all across the liberal media landscape this morning. What youāll see far less of is any serious fact-checking of former Vice President Bidenās wild and wooly claims. But since somebody is going to have to do it, letās run down a few of the lowlights of Joe Bidenās performance.
Right out of the gate, one of the first questions that erupted into a food fight was the idea of the Democrats getting rid of the legislative filibuster and packing the Supreme Court if Biden wins and his party retakes control of the Senate. This one doesnāt fall into the category of a ālieā on Uncle Joeās part. If anything, itās worse. He flatly said āIām not going to answer the question.ā Iām struggling to remember if any candidate in presidential electoral history has ever done that during a nationally televised debate. Is this similar to Nancy Pelosiās old playbook on Obamacare when she told us we needed to pass the bill to find out what was in it? Youāll need to elect me to find out what Iāll do as President. That was a stunning moment.
Speaking of the Supreme Court, Biden was invited to comment on Judge Amy Coney Barrett. He looked right into the camera and said, āIām not opposed to the Justice.ā Thatās news to the rest of the country, Sleepy Joe. You put out a statement on the day the nomination was announced saying you opposed her specifically because of her past positions regarding Obamacare.
Biden went on to say that there shouldnāt be a nominee to replace Ginsburg until after the election when a new Senate class and the next President have been seated. And of course he would say that. But thatās the Joe Biden of 2020. The 2017 version of Biden said āThe Constitution says the president shall nominate ā not maybe he could, maybe he canāt ā he shall nominate. Implicit in the Constitution is that the Senate will actā Ahā¦ good times.
Later on, President Trump brought up the socialist manifesto that Joe Biden agreed to cook up in partnership with Bernie Sanders. Biden responded by saying, āThere is no manifesto.ā That one must have taken some solid brass cojones to spit out because there absolutely was a 118-page manifesto developed by the āBiden-Sanders Unity Task Forceā and itās still on Joeās website to this day.”
President Trump was far better on substance, though he didnāt do himself any favors by constantly interrupting during the two-minute response times. The absence of a clear rebuttal time-period helped to foster the chaos (perhaps that was intentional), and Wallace’s obvious bias against Pres. Trump simply added to the fact that he did a bad job as the moderator.
The president needs to be strongly coached to not speak up and interrupt when his opponent has the time to speak. If he does that in the other two debates, Biden will put his foot in his mouth anyway or say, as he did once last night, “I’m not going to answer that question.” That will really help Pres. Trump with those who are undecided, b/c in terms of leadership skills, actually telling the truth and on the substance of the issues, Pres. Trump is by far the better candidate.
“But as Bishop-Henchman reminds us, much of the behavior outlined by the Times report is not only legal but was enshrined by our lawmakers to encourage certain behaviors. He mentions the tax credits Trump received for the Old Post Office building renovation: “Congress wrote that law, and they made it available,” he says. “And it’s been on the books for 40 years, and it’s been used to rehabilitate tens of thousands of historic properties. When you write stuff on the books, billionaires are going to use it, and they’re going to use it to bring their tax liability down.”
Our tax code, which Bishop-Henchman says was written in the style of a “phone book,” is replete with overly complex rules and regulations meant to influence the public’s economic behavior. Former Vice President Joe Biden is no stranger to this. “I have nothing against Amazon,” he wrote in June of 2019, “but no company pulling in billions of dollars of profits should pay a lower tax rate than firefighters and teachers. We need to reward work, not just wealth.” The tech behemoth paid no federal taxes in 2018 after making use of legal tax incentives established by Congress, of which Biden was a member for 36 years. For example, Amazon invested $22.6 billion in research and development in 2017, something the legislature hopes will spur job creation and economic growth.
“It’s this conflict between we want to use the tax code to incentivize all these things,” says Bishop-Henchman. “And then we get upset when people use them very well.”
“Bidenās Texas Political Director Alleged Involvement In Ballot Harvesting Exposed”
“The political swamp cultivated by Texas Democrats is alive and well. Earlier this month, on September 8, the Biden campaign announced the appointment of Bidenās Texas political director, Dallas Jones. Just 20 days later, a potentially major story is developing involving Jones and ballot harvesting.
Jones is a well-connected political activist with Texas Democrats. He is formally accused of helping to run an illegal ballot harvesting operation. This information comes from two separate affidavits filed Monday at the Texas Supreme Court. Both affidavits are from private investigators, one former F.B.I. agent, and one a retired Captain with the Houston Police Department. They allege under oath that Dallas Jones and others are currently hoarding mail-in and absentee ballots and ordering operatives to fill the ballots out for people illegally for the 2020 presidential election. These people include the homeless and senior citizens in nursing facilities, as well as dead people.
Dallas S. Jones is an entrepreneur, political commentator, and community activist. He currently serves as President and CEO of ELITE Change, Inc. and Managing Principal of Jones Group International, LLC. Prior to forming ELITE Change, Mr. Jones worked on every level of government including Special Assistant to U.S. Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, and for Texas State Representative Garnet Coleman as a policy analyst and later becoming District Director. He also served as District Director for Texas State Senator Rodney Ellis.
After leaving the public sector, Mr. Jones joined the NAACP where he served as a Regional Youth Field Director for the Southwestern Region, and later served as National Youth Outreach Director for the NAACP National Voter Fund. Where he focused on increasing registration and turn out of African Americans throughout the United States during the 2008 Presidential Election. In the corporate sector, he was named Deputy Director of Public Affairs for AT&T where he was responsible for the public affairs efforts for the company throughout the western region.”
“CIA Asked FBI to Investigate Clinton Campaign Over Alleged Plan to āStir Upā Scandal Against Trump
We all know that Hillaryās campaign and the DNC hired Steele to come up with the dossier.”
“Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified three items in regard to the FBIās investigation into Hurricane Crossfire to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham.
One item included the CIA asked the FBI to investigate Hillary Clintonās campaign over alleged plans to āstir upā a scandal against then-candidate Donald Trump.
Ratcliffe wrote:
In late July 2016, U.S. intelligence agencies obtained insight into Russian intelligence analysis alleging that U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign plan to stir up a scandal against U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump by tying him to Putin and the Russiansā hacking of the Democratic National Committee. The IC does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication.
According to handwritten notes, former Central Intelligence Agency Director Brennan subsequently briefed President Obama and other senior national security officials on the intelligence, including the āalleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 26, 2016 of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.ā
On 07 September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok regarding āU.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clintonās approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server.ā
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JUST DECLASSIFIED: The Russia hoax was Hillaryās plan, and the Obama-Biden White House was briefed on it. pic.twitter.com/72PRqWWmY3
“āThey put us on the ground,ā was the last text I sent. 11:02 pm.
Then I called my editor. 11:07 pm. No dice. Not sure what he would do anyhow. The police were closing in.
These were my last communications, to the Daily Callerās chief video director and editor-in-chief, moments before I was to spend 16 hours at a detention center in Louisville, Kentucky, despite being identified and confirmed as a member of the press.
Hereās what happened.”
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“What I didnāt know until later was that the LMPD had employed a tactic called a ākettle.ā A kettle is a legally dubious crowd-control technique used by police officers to control large crowds. The tactic involves big sections of police who begin to move in, surrounding protesters into a small section and cutting off their ability to leave.
Some people believe the tactic is unconstitutional ā the ACLU, for example, sued Washington, D.C. in 2017 after police used kettling during Inauguration Day protests.
People have won millions of dollars in restitution after being caught in a police kettle. Typically in order for police to clear themselves of legal liability, protesters need to either be unruly or violent, or they need to be violating a curfew order. In return, police are expected to issue several warnings to disperse.
I never heard any order from police officers telling press to go to a different area, nor did my co-worker Jorge Ventura or Drew Hernandez, a third independent reporter who was arrested that night.”
On the daily thread, Kim said “I sure donāt like either of them and am sad that this is the best we could do as a country.”
Too bad everyone is set on the failing two-party system. If all of those Dems and GOPers who are dissatisfied with the choices looked into the 3rd parties, they might find someone they like. Look in to Jo Jorgensen (https://jo20.com/), the Libertarian candidate, you might find her much more to your liking than Biden or Trump. Sure, some of her stands on the issues aren’t to most Conservatives liking, but she has no baggage and seems like she would make a better President than Biden, and much better at being Presidential than Trump.
Let’s stop thinking there are only 2 choices when there are others out there. I know someone will say “3rd parties don’t have a chance,” to which I reply, “That’s because we never give them one.
Then there are those that say, “voting 3rd party is a wasted vote.” To which I reply, “The only wasted is a vote for Person A because he/she is not Person B.”
I’m voting FOR Jo Jorgenson, not against someone else.
Wandering Views 
So….
Did anyone else catch that Yankees game last night? š
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I knew we were in for it when the first question was on the Supreme Court. Trump explained his reasoning for the appointment, did a good job explaining it. Then it was Biden’s turn and he turned it into a rant about how 170 million people were gonna lose their Obamacare. What?!
Trump interrupted continually. He should have just let him go on. But he can’t. š¦
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I admit I grew tired of it all rather quickly and just watched the game for the last half hour. š
Also Wallace repeatedly dinged Trump for interrupting, which he should. But a fair moderator would have done the same to Biden, who interrupted on nearly every one of his opponents questions too.
So let’s see what some others say.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/09/first-presidential-debate-quick-take-aggressive-trump-old-biden/
“First Presidential Debate Quick Take: Aggressive Trump, Old Biden
Andrew Sullivan: āIāve never seen Biden seem so old or so weak. He canāt land a strong blow. Heās being successfully heckled. I want to look away.ā
“What a sātshow. Chris Wallace was horrible, at times literally arguing with Trump, and continually reprimanding Trump for interrupting when interruptions were bipartisan during the debate ā Biden did it continually.
Hard to assess who āwonā ā Iām too close to it.
Trump did very well on law and order. Just when Biden had a potentially deadly moment of debate silence when Trump pressed him to name a single law enforcement group that supported Biden, and Biden had no answer, Wallace saved him by changing the subject.”
I donāt think Trump won people over, but I could see Bidenās image as the supposed nice guy being damaged.”
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“Biden Told So Many Whoppers Last Night, Burger King May Sue Him”
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/09/30/biden-told-many-whoppers-last-night-burger-king-may-sue/
“The first thing Iāll say about last nightās debate is more of an overall impression than anything else. Joe Biden surprised me. Thereā¦ I said it. He managed to meet the exceedingly low bar that had been set for him by staying awake for the entire debate and not soiling his undergarments on stage. (That we know of, anyway.) He definitely engaged in some verbal wandering at points, but for the most part, he managed to stay on topic and didnāt completely veer off into lala land. So he had that going for him.
With that out of the way, we should probably dig into some of the substance. If youāre looking for a list of the Presidentās more dubious claims or exaggerations, there will be no shortage of them all across the liberal media landscape this morning. What youāll see far less of is any serious fact-checking of former Vice President Bidenās wild and wooly claims. But since somebody is going to have to do it, letās run down a few of the lowlights of Joe Bidenās performance.
Right out of the gate, one of the first questions that erupted into a food fight was the idea of the Democrats getting rid of the legislative filibuster and packing the Supreme Court if Biden wins and his party retakes control of the Senate. This one doesnāt fall into the category of a ālieā on Uncle Joeās part. If anything, itās worse. He flatly said āIām not going to answer the question.ā Iām struggling to remember if any candidate in presidential electoral history has ever done that during a nationally televised debate. Is this similar to Nancy Pelosiās old playbook on Obamacare when she told us we needed to pass the bill to find out what was in it? Youāll need to elect me to find out what Iāll do as President. That was a stunning moment.
Speaking of the Supreme Court, Biden was invited to comment on Judge Amy Coney Barrett. He looked right into the camera and said, āIām not opposed to the Justice.ā Thatās news to the rest of the country, Sleepy Joe. You put out a statement on the day the nomination was announced saying you opposed her specifically because of her past positions regarding Obamacare.
Biden went on to say that there shouldnāt be a nominee to replace Ginsburg until after the election when a new Senate class and the next President have been seated. And of course he would say that. But thatās the Joe Biden of 2020. The 2017 version of Biden said āThe Constitution says the president shall nominate ā not maybe he could, maybe he canāt ā he shall nominate. Implicit in the Constitution is that the Senate will actā Ahā¦ good times.
Later on, President Trump brought up the socialist manifesto that Joe Biden agreed to cook up in partnership with Bernie Sanders. Biden responded by saying, āThere is no manifesto.ā That one must have taken some solid brass cojones to spit out because there absolutely was a 118-page manifesto developed by the āBiden-Sanders Unity Task Forceā and itās still on Joeās website to this day.”
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Here’s a fun one….
https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/09/29/first-debate-townhall-media-livetweet-thread/
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President Trump was far better on substance, though he didnāt do himself any favors by constantly interrupting during the two-minute response times. The absence of a clear rebuttal time-period helped to foster the chaos (perhaps that was intentional), and Wallace’s obvious bias against Pres. Trump simply added to the fact that he did a bad job as the moderator.
The president needs to be strongly coached to not speak up and interrupt when his opponent has the time to speak. If he does that in the other two debates, Biden will put his foot in his mouth anyway or say, as he did once last night, “I’m not going to answer that question.” That will really help Pres. Trump with those who are undecided, b/c in terms of leadership skills, actually telling the truth and on the substance of the issues, Pres. Trump is by far the better candidate.
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That. What he said….. šš
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Kim shared this on Facebook. It’s a good read, and get’s the real point.
https://reason.com/2020/09/29/people-are-missing-the-point-on-trumps-tax-returns-new-york-times/?fbclid=IwAR2B0iPh5CpPx4Z6Ux6Q6G-vd9CUCLZJgpGFt_HbVqObhXgHqEv_MV4jR3I
“But as Bishop-Henchman reminds us, much of the behavior outlined by the Times report is not only legal but was enshrined by our lawmakers to encourage certain behaviors. He mentions the tax credits Trump received for the Old Post Office building renovation: “Congress wrote that law, and they made it available,” he says. “And it’s been on the books for 40 years, and it’s been used to rehabilitate tens of thousands of historic properties. When you write stuff on the books, billionaires are going to use it, and they’re going to use it to bring their tax liability down.”
Our tax code, which Bishop-Henchman says was written in the style of a “phone book,” is replete with overly complex rules and regulations meant to influence the public’s economic behavior. Former Vice President Joe Biden is no stranger to this. “I have nothing against Amazon,” he wrote in June of 2019, “but no company pulling in billions of dollars of profits should pay a lower tax rate than firefighters and teachers. We need to reward work, not just wealth.” The tech behemoth paid no federal taxes in 2018 after making use of legal tax incentives established by Congress, of which Biden was a member for 36 years. For example, Amazon invested $22.6 billion in research and development in 2017, something the legislature hopes will spur job creation and economic growth.
“It’s this conflict between we want to use the tax code to incentivize all these things,” says Bishop-Henchman. “And then we get upset when people use them very well.”
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Nope. No voter fraud here…..
https://hotair.com/archives/karen-townsend/2020/09/29/bidens-texas-political-director-alleged-involvement-ballot-harvesting-exposed/
“Bidenās Texas Political Director Alleged Involvement In Ballot Harvesting Exposed”
“The political swamp cultivated by Texas Democrats is alive and well. Earlier this month, on September 8, the Biden campaign announced the appointment of Bidenās Texas political director, Dallas Jones. Just 20 days later, a potentially major story is developing involving Jones and ballot harvesting.
Jones is a well-connected political activist with Texas Democrats. He is formally accused of helping to run an illegal ballot harvesting operation. This information comes from two separate affidavits filed Monday at the Texas Supreme Court. Both affidavits are from private investigators, one former F.B.I. agent, and one a retired Captain with the Houston Police Department. They allege under oath that Dallas Jones and others are currently hoarding mail-in and absentee ballots and ordering operatives to fill the ballots out for people illegally for the 2020 presidential election. These people include the homeless and senior citizens in nursing facilities, as well as dead people.
Dallas S. Jones is an entrepreneur, political commentator, and community activist. He currently serves as President and CEO of ELITE Change, Inc. and Managing Principal of Jones Group International, LLC. Prior to forming ELITE Change, Mr. Jones worked on every level of government including Special Assistant to U.S. Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, and for Texas State Representative Garnet Coleman as a policy analyst and later becoming District Director. He also served as District Director for Texas State Senator Rodney Ellis.
After leaving the public sector, Mr. Jones joined the NAACP where he served as a Regional Youth Field Director for the Southwestern Region, and later served as National Youth Outreach Director for the NAACP National Voter Fund. Where he focused on increasing registration and turn out of African Americans throughout the United States during the 2008 Presidential Election. In the corporate sector, he was named Deputy Director of Public Affairs for AT&T where he was responsible for the public affairs efforts for the company throughout the western region.”
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Hmmmmmm……
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/09/cia-asked-fbi-to-investigate-clinton-campaign-over-alleged-plan-to-stir-up-scandal-against-trump/
“CIA Asked FBI to Investigate Clinton Campaign Over Alleged Plan to āStir Upā Scandal Against Trump
We all know that Hillaryās campaign and the DNC hired Steele to come up with the dossier.”
“Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified three items in regard to the FBIās investigation into Hurricane Crossfire to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham.
One item included the CIA asked the FBI to investigate Hillary Clintonās campaign over alleged plans to āstir upā a scandal against then-candidate Donald Trump.
Ratcliffe wrote:
In late July 2016, U.S. intelligence agencies obtained insight into Russian intelligence analysis alleging that U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign plan to stir up a scandal against U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump by tying him to Putin and the Russiansā hacking of the Democratic National Committee. The IC does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication.
According to handwritten notes, former Central Intelligence Agency Director Brennan subsequently briefed President Obama and other senior national security officials on the intelligence, including the āalleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 26, 2016 of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.ā
On 07 September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok regarding āU.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clintonās approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server.ā
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An eye witness account….
“Police Used A Legally Dubious Tactic In Louisville, And I Found Myself Caught In The Middle Of It. Hereās What Happened ā¦”
https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/28/exclusive-louisville-arrest-daily-caller-reporters-kettling-black-lives-matter-protest/
“āThey put us on the ground,ā was the last text I sent. 11:02 pm.
Then I called my editor. 11:07 pm. No dice. Not sure what he would do anyhow. The police were closing in.
These were my last communications, to the Daily Callerās chief video director and editor-in-chief, moments before I was to spend 16 hours at a detention center in Louisville, Kentucky, despite being identified and confirmed as a member of the press.
Hereās what happened.”
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“What I didnāt know until later was that the LMPD had employed a tactic called a ākettle.ā A kettle is a legally dubious crowd-control technique used by police officers to control large crowds. The tactic involves big sections of police who begin to move in, surrounding protesters into a small section and cutting off their ability to leave.
Some people believe the tactic is unconstitutional ā the ACLU, for example, sued Washington, D.C. in 2017 after police used kettling during Inauguration Day protests.
People have won millions of dollars in restitution after being caught in a police kettle. Typically in order for police to clear themselves of legal liability, protesters need to either be unruly or violent, or they need to be violating a curfew order. In return, police are expected to issue several warnings to disperse.
I never heard any order from police officers telling press to go to a different area, nor did my co-worker Jorge Ventura or Drew Hernandez, a third independent reporter who was arrested that night.”
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Aj @ 11:53. Have you seen that in the news channels?
Serious question, I have been busy for the last few hours.
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It’s mentioned briefly on FoxNews.
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Not much mention Chas, for obvious reasons….
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On the daily thread, Kim said “I sure donāt like either of them and am sad that this is the best we could do as a country.”
Too bad everyone is set on the failing two-party system. If all of those Dems and GOPers who are dissatisfied with the choices looked into the 3rd parties, they might find someone they like. Look in to Jo Jorgensen (https://jo20.com/), the Libertarian candidate, you might find her much more to your liking than Biden or Trump. Sure, some of her stands on the issues aren’t to most Conservatives liking, but she has no baggage and seems like she would make a better President than Biden, and much better at being Presidential than Trump.
Let’s stop thinking there are only 2 choices when there are others out there. I know someone will say “3rd parties don’t have a chance,” to which I reply, “That’s because we never give them one.
Then there are those that say, “voting 3rd party is a wasted vote.” To which I reply, “The only wasted is a vote for Person A because he/she is not Person B.”
I’m voting FOR Jo Jorgenson, not against someone else.
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