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Our Daily Thread 7-9-15

Good Morning!

On this day in 1755 General Edward Braddock was mortally wounded when French and Indian troops ambushed his force of British regulars and colonial militia. He died on July 13.

In 1776 The American Declaration of Independence was read aloud to Gen. George Washington’s troops in New York.

In 1868 the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified. The amendment was designed to grant citizenship to and protect the civil liberties of recently freed slaves. 

In 1878 the corncob pipe was patented by Henry Tibbe.

And in 1968 the first All-Star baseball game to be played indoors took place at the Astrodome in Houston, TX.

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Quote of the Day

“Any child knows that history can only be a reduced representation of reality, but it must be a true one, not distorted by queer lenses.”

Samuel E. Morison

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Today is Roy Acuff’s birthday. 

https://youtu.be/onRUfsZFhCU

And here’s another.

https://youtu.be/wFISpOSYGPY

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Anyone have a QoD?

50 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 7-9-15”

  1. Good morning! What a timely quote about history.

    Miss Bosley is in cuddle and purr mode. She has her arm/leg draped over me in her ownership body language.

    I have found a possible retirement community that husband and I and Bosley might be able to live in while we decide on what to do with our house such as total renovation or sell. I keep working on the downsizing project.

    I need to go back and read yesterday’s thread. I hope things are well with all and I need to get back over to the prayer thread, too.

    Have the homeschoolers all finished up for the year? We were always doing math in the summers.

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  3. AJ hit on several of my favorites. Didn’t Acuff Rose own the copyrights to most country songs at one time?
    We all know that women of a certain age all had crushes on Elvis or the Beatles but my grandmother always had a crush on Roy Acuff. He and Johnny Cash often helped me get the infant BG back to sleep. MI stay around 1:18 every morning. Those red numbers are permanently stamped on my corneas. 😉

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  4. I can’t post it now but Politico has an article on how the South needs to be ethically cleansed. Who told you that’s what it felt like?

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  8. I think they have started the cleansing with Paula Dean. Did y’all see that about how she and her son were in trouble for dressing up as Lucy and Ricardo and son put on “brown face” to appear as Hispanic? Maybe y’all already discussed this in my absence.

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  9. Janice, I saw that, and I wondered whether it would have been considered offensive if he had played him, if he hadn’t darkened his skin. In other words, is the offense in recognizing that Ricky had darker skin? Or should no one ever dress up as someone of a different race because that’s innately demeaning? In today’s world, if a boy had dressed up as Lucy, they wouldn’t think anything of it. What was sad to me was that Paula felt the need to apologize (and to fire the person who posted the photo).

    AJ, all I see in the photo are cattails and red-winged blackbirds. Did you change the photo or are the orioles hiding? I always think of red-winged blackbirds when I see cattails, but I haven’t gotten a photo of the two together. We have many, many redwings here, though, and a decent number of cattails, so I’m sure I shall someday.

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  10. They still look like turkeys to me. 🙂

    Back in the old days (I’m almost old enough to talk about “the old days”. Next month.)
    Anyhow, in the old days, radio stations didn’t stay on all night and the airways weren’t so crowded. So, you could pick up WSM and other 50,000 watt clear channel stations all over the country.
    WSM WWL, KONO, WRC WCKY were just some of them.
    I say that, to say this:
    One time I was listening to WSM and Roy Acuff was telling a joke to an audience. I don’t remember the punch line, nor anything else, but the joke was about a revival preacher and had this line in it.
    “and he went down to be saved”
    And apparently everyone in the audience understood what he was saying.
    It was like that in that part of the country in those days.

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  11. Once in a great while, we can still pick up WSM on our car radio. We live a thousand miles away. This is late at night and the weather conditions are right. Of course, anyone can listen online now.

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  12. KBells and Karen, from yesterday’s news threads . . . I’m answering on here because I don’t always follow the news threads.

    KBells said: “Lumping all these police shooting together is like comparing apples and oranges and grapes and potatoes. It runs from from Michael Brown, who was a violent thug resisting arrest to Tamir Rice, a little boy with a BB gun. Some were justified, some were excessive and some were criminal. But almost all were resisting arrest. How long do we expect a cop to beg someone to follow orders before they are allowed to take action.”

    Karen said: “kBells – I understand your point, but were any of those young men (or boys) resisting arrest for a crime worthy of capital punishment? Does the action they take have to be deadly? What about using a taser, or shooting someone in the leg to stop them? I understand that we ordinary citizens do not really understand the stress that police officers are under, but they are supposedly trained to deal with those high tension situations. I also have seen that fatal shootings by police officers have skyrocketed over recent years.”

    If you haven’t followed the Michael Brown story, google “michael brown department of justice”
    The issue isn’t necessarily whether the person resisting arrest is guilty of a capital crime–that wouldn’t be a determination for the officer to make, and the reality is he might not know why the person is resisting arrest. (One police officer pointed out that when a person resists arrest, it is usually because they’re out on parole and know they’d go back to prison–or there are outstanding warrants for their arrest. So the attempted arrest might be for something minor, like a $10 shoplifting, but no one would resist arrest for something that small. He’s resisting arrest because he knows about something else, and the officer probably doesn’t know the reason except that his resistance is likely to indicate he is a felon, or minimally high on drugs.) But in his case, it wasn’t really resisting arrest; it was outright attack of an officer. Tasers don’t always stop people, especially if there is PCP in the person’s system–two tasers didn’t stop Rodney King. And while we think of shooting people in the leg to stop them without serious injury, it really depends on what policy is, and that isn’t necessarily the best approach to someone who is a mortal danger to you. Remember, the officers who arrested Rodney King didn’t use deadly force, and King still got off scot-free while the officers were punished, because public perception was that the non-deadly force was excessive–but it was in fact necessary to subdue a PCP-dusted suspect. Officers can indeed sometimes use excessive force–but an officer is risking his own life if he makes the wrong decision.

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  14. I am thinking that some of what is happening with the police is that they are dealing with such erratic behaviors brought on by drugs that were not as prevalent in the past. I can’t remember the name of the new drug that makes people feel so overly heated that they rip their clothes off. Those people are really crazed and dangerous. Law enforcement really needs our prayer support.

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  16. AJ, do you use Saxon math? That is what we used and it gave our son a great background. I was just browsing through a CBD catalog of homeschool offerings. One of the moms in my writer’s critique group is writing homeschool curriculum. Another is writing a book about experiences in homeschooling.

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  18. In those days, General Braddock was a good guy.

    I’m sure police training is different from military training. We only had weapons training in basic training, but they installed this in us with respect to guns.
    1. Don’t ever point a gun at someone you don’t want to kill.
    2. Don’t ever shoot to wound..

    I say “only in basic training”. we had to requalify, but that was only one day.

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  20. Janice, did you get on the waiting list?

    Re what the police are up against: this is anecdotal, but one of my brothers told me that one day he was turning into his driveway, and he put his blinker on. He was turning right to get into the driveway, but he had to angle the car a bit left before he could turn into his driveway, and to his shock some woman tried to go around him on the right and ended up hitting him. She kept telling him not to call the police, that she wouldn’t press charges (as though the accident was his fault). He called police and she was getting angrier and angrier. But he was telling himself well at least she can’t hurt him, since she’s a woman and much smaller than him. But the police came and she threw a hissy, and it took several policemen to subdue her. He realized then why some of these police-citizen encounters might get violent without it being the police’s fault. He suspected she was on PCP or something of the sort that made her extra strong, and also extra confrontational. There was no reason a simple traffic accident, with an obvious offender, should have resulted in an arrest at all, but the woman was past reason and it ended up turning dangerous.

    My accident in Nashville was a hit and run, someone under the influence without a drivers license (presumably it had been suspended). Let’s say that she had resisted arrest. Well, totalling someone’s car because you are DUI, and fleeing the scene, is not a capital crime in our justice system, but it is extremely dangerous. She was driving a pickup, me a car. If the circumstances of the collision had been different, she could have injured or killed me. (She struck the hood of my car, right side, not my door.) Should citizens have the option whether to accept or decline arrest? If not, then sometimes resisting arrest is going to result in harm to the one resisting. But if we really want to say that the police can never hurt someone who is resisting arrest, then criminals are in charge.

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  21. Chas, I suspected that shooting to wound would be a bad idea; that isn’t what a gun is for. But I imagine in some movies that might be seen as a mark of superior police work. Shoot his gun arm, he drops his gun, you bind up his wounds, and everyone is happy.

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  22. Good morning! Now just who wouldn’t love having breakfast in a small town mom and pop place when the cook brings your pancakes to your table and says “enjoy your breakfast sweetpea”! ?

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  23. You do not shoot to wound because they will sue you and you will be supporting them the rest of your life.
    You do not shoot to wound because you don’t know their strength and determination (with or without drugs).
    You do not shoot to wound because if you find yourself in a position to shoot someone you are presumably in a life or death situation and you don’t want to be the one to die.
    If you are in your home and feel threatened, you let them get all the way in the house before you shoot them.

    At least that is what I have heard police say to my mother who was absolutely terrified to stay at home, just the two of us, when my dad had to work nights. Our house was broken into once when we were home. The company was on strike and my dad was management. He was at work and they later decided it was union workers making mischief.

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  25. Good morning Everyone. In regards to the History today “In 1868 the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified. The amendment was designed to grant citizenship to and protect the civil liberties of recently freed slaves.” That same amendment clause about equal protection is now being used against Christians who opposed gay marriage. In regards to handling a firearm. When handling either a rifle or a side-arm, you aim for the center point of mass of your target. That is where all the vital organs are.

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  26. Re: Michelle. The object of any Calculus is to reduce that problem to an Algebraic equation. I would highly recommend a book called “Quick Calculus”. It is well written and guides the student practice problems and then recommends reviews previous sections to solve the problems. It was written for Freshmen Physic Students to bring them up to speed for Quantum Mechanics.

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  27. Homeschooling, nope, several of them continue year round so they don’t lose ground as they lose ground very quickly if there is any break.

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  28. We homeschool throughout the year. We are a few days into our next year, since PA only lets you start counting “school days” in July.

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  29. Son did take Physics, Pre-Calculous, and Calculous from a homeschool group instructor who was educated at Duke and had taught at a very pricey private school in Atl. Son scored so high on ACT math that Covenant said he did not have to take any math in college as an English major. I was mainly asking about Saxon for any younger homeschoolers. We used it through Algebra 2. People we knew who were math geniuses liked Singapore math.

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  30. Cheryl, we did not yet get on a waiting list. We were unable to do the tour because the lady who does that was at another property and we need an appointment. Not sure if husband is interested in the possibility. We need to talk more about it. The rent was also several hundred more than I had seen on my web search.

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  31. Hi all. I decided to switch my media-fast day from Thursday to Friday, so here I am. I’ve found the computer to be very sluggish on Fridays, freezing up a lot. I suspect there are more users on Fridays, and our internet provider can’t keep up well with the extra traffic. Maybe.

    Anyway, it was an irritant, trying to do my once-a-week computer work for business purposes on that day (I send out a weekly video to my piano students, and it’s frustrating researching which video is a good one to feature for that week when the computer freezes up all the time).

    So I have switched to Thursdays, and it takes much less time now, and is a very enjoyable task again. 🙂 And Thursday is a better day, also, as it’s the day after my piano teaching week is done. Kind of a nice way to tie up my business week, not having it somewhat removed from my teaching days (currently Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays).

    My kids, meanwhile, are sticking to Thursday media-fast days. They’ve gotten accustomed to it, and there isn’t any reason to change the day for them.

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  32. We homeschool throughout the year. Didn’t always do it that way, but have for several years now, and it works out better this way, I would say.

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  33. I am glad to hear that so many are homeschooling year round or almost like that. Especially with math, that seems to help the brain to stay in gear so you don’t have to do the fall refresher. In public school, summer school typically has a stigma as in being for failing students. That is a bad rap since for homeschoolers it gives them an edge. But when we were doing math in the summers, I always carried a bit of false guilt from the lifelong thinking that summer school is for failures. It is difficult to break out of public school mold when that is all one ever knew in life. It was pretty scary to be homeschooling when I did not know anyone else doing it back when. Now there are so many more.

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  34. I keep going by the shop I am donating items to almost daily. Today they got son’s microwave, my collection of cookie tins, my husband’s hiking and long athletic socks, empty gift boxes, 2 large pizza pans (perferated type), lids to pots, glass candlesticks, and a gigantic Garfield novelty alarm clock. There were some other things,too, but that was the most of today’s haul. My friend with kitties and daughter who got ‘married’ has things she is clearing out of their apartment. They will try to buy a home this year. Funny how we are both in transition, but in opposite directions. They have never owned a home. I think they will probably get a condo. I think I prefer an apartment than a condo if we decide to go that way…but I will miss the yard, just not the upkeep.

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  35. Janice, Janice, Janice….you build equity in a condo. Ownership means better upkeep and better return on the investment.
    Renting an apartment is striking a match to cash every month.

    1. Rent for 6 months and leave almost every thing in storage to see if you like living that close to other people.
    2,. If you like it, buy a condo, but watch out for the HOA fees.

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  36. I like condos, but I have another friend who is in one and was their association president for awhile so I got a lot of knowledge about the hassles of owning a condo. And another friend had one long time back that was hard to sell when she got married. That is the main reason an apartment seems better is because they offer more flexability if you desire to move.

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  37. Seven year old is making a cherry pie. She has not made one before. Currently she is using the pitter to get the stones out. She picked about a half gallon of cherries, She just told me that she has never had a cherry pie before. Amazing. Should be delicious.

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  38. I agree, Janice (5:10). It’s easy to bring the traditional-schooling mindset into homeschooling.

    Since we started homeschooling year-round, it has interested me to hear of other examples where education is occurring in all seasons, including summer.

    For example, in our church, children’s Sunday School is not simply September through May, as it often has been in my denomination, but is now all year. The format of Summer Sunday School is a little different, and there is no SS the weeks of Memorial Day and Labor Day, but, other than those weeks — and Easter Sunday and two weeks during Christmas/New Year’s time — adults and children have Sunday lesson times throughout the year.

    I noticed, too, when I started researching recent business trends in the private music teaching industry before reopening my piano studio last year, that more teachers/studios are teaching all year round now (with a few holiday breaks). In the past, I had given my students the option of either taking lessons, or stopping for the summer. More kids would stop than continue through the summer, and the more inexperienced the children were who stopped, the more skill they lost, not surprisingly.

    The year-round plan, for any type of education, facilitates better progress and continuity, IMO. It would be nice to see more of that in the traditional school setting, but we’re such creatures of habit sometimes. 🙂

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  39. Many of the schools around here are on a four day school, extended days. I can understand why but it seems like then every Monday would be review. We do six days most of the time.

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  40. 6 Arrows, I don’t think I’ve ever gone to a church that stopped Sunday school for the summer, though I have seen a couple of years when they decide to take just one month off, usually the month of August, for the first break in several years.

    When I was in Nashville, some of the suburbs were moving to year-round schooling, with several weeks off several times a year. Some don’t like the idea because it can make it hard to figure out vacation time, especially if kids in the family go to different schools with different schedules. Presumably some jobs may also struggle with it, if too many parents have kids in the same school system and they all want to take their vacation during the same three- or four-week period!

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  41. Mumsee, is the four-day, extended-hours schedule to save money (busing the children, heating/cooling the buildings, etc.)?

    Cheryl, that’s good to hear the churches you’ve attended have done SS through (or almost all the way through) the summer. That hasn’t been the norm in any of the churches I’ve attended (all of the same denomination), and I wonder if most of our synod’s churches might just be so tied to the traditional school-year mindset because some of our churches have day schools, which, as far as I know, all follow a similar, nine-month school schedule like most public schools?

    In any case, our church has broken out of that mold of September-May children’s Sunday classes, despite having a September-May day school.

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  42. We’re done homeschooling, but not just for the year, but for life. We finished two years ago. It’s hard to believe, but our youngest turns 21 in September.

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  43. Note on math: We used Saxon at the suggestion of my brother who is a math teacher. My son used all the books except Algebra ½ and was ready for calculus as a sophomore. The daughters, on the other hand, never got past Algebra.

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  45. I remember when we were done with homeschooling. Must have been….fourteen years ago? That did not last long and looks like we have another ten years to go.

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  46. Cheryl – My question about capital crimes was more rhetorical than anything. I was making the point that being shot & killed for resisting arrest for shoplifting or whatnot seems a bit extreme. And if an officer can kill a person for resisting arrest, then we’re in essence saying that resisting arrest is a capital crime. If the officer’s, or someone else’s, life is at stake, then yes, shoot to kill if need be.

    As I wrote last night, I’ve read several articles about the rise in police shootings, even by some conservative writers who are concerned about a shift in attitude among many officers throughout the years. I am not a “bleeding heart liberal”, but I am concerned, & I don’t think pointing out that concern makes me anti-cop. I’ve always had great respect for police officers, & I still believe most are decent men & women trying to do the best they can.

    It’s too late now, & I have several days of babysitting ahead, but I’ll try to find some articles about what I’ve been trying to say.

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  47. Karen, thing is I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of someone being killed for resisting arrest. They get killed for being a danger to police, or (sometimes) they get killed because a police officer is a murderer with no good reason but a choice to kill.

    I’ve read all sorts of things about police making decisions that they shouldn’t be making, breaking into houses and killing people’s dogs, arresting someone for letting their child walk home from school, and on and on. I think we have a lot of issues with the police. But I don’t think we can say that if a person refuses arrest, then they should be allowed to go free. I don’t think that is the proper answer to police brutality. The officer who arrested Rodney King said that part of the problem is that some police departments refuse to use some non-lethal methods that are proven to be effective, such as nets. So a citizen who is so high he is a danger to himself and others may end up getting hurt (or killed) when he fights the police. And mentally unstable people can also end up hurt.

    We live in a fallen world, and there’s no perfect answer to any of it. But a society that pits police and citizens against one another, both seeing the others as enemies, is going to be a dangerous place to live.

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  48. Cheryl – I very much agree with what you wrote. (I used the example of resisting arrest because others had mentioned it.)

    And now I must say goodnight.

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