16 thoughts on “News/Politics 6-8-20

  1. So the riots accomplished what exactly?

    Nothing. They just widened the divide.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/07/riots_leave_cities_with_just_rubble_ashes_143397.html

    “Riots Leave Cities with Just Rubble, Ashes”

    “Black Lives Matter and other radical activist groups like antifa want you to believe that the protests, rioting and looting will make America a better country with more social justice.

    And the way that is supposed to happen is their top goal: Defund the police. Oddly, after all the pain and destruction America has seen because the police couldn’t keep the peace, their mission to defund police actually is becoming a mainstream tenet.”

    WASHINGTON — Black Lives Matter and other radical activist groups like antifa want you to believe that the protests, rioting and looting will make America a better country with more social justice.

    And the way that is supposed to happen is their top goal: Defund the police. Oddly, after all the pain and destruction America has seen because the police couldn’t keep the peace, their mission to defund police actually is becoming a mainstream tenet.

    I am not defending what happened on Memorial Day in Minneapolis. Police Officer Derek Chauvin pressed his knee on the neck of George Floyd for so long that Floyd died. Three other cops participated in the killing of a black man who could beg them to stop but could not move. It was murder.

    If this had happened 20 years ago, one can imagine many defending Chauvin. They’d mention Floyd’s past criminal record on assault and robbery charges more than a decade ago, as the police union did. They’d note that the store workers who called the police to report his use of a counterfeit $20 bill also said that Floyd was “awfully drunk” and “not in control of himself.” They’d concoct bogus excuses for excessive force.

    But this is a different era. Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, who is African American, fired all four officers the day after Floyd died. Before the other three officers were charged for Floyd’s death, Arradondo said all four were “complicit” in Floyd’s murder.

    “Law and order” President Donald Trump didn’t defend the Minneapolis cops. Within 48 hours, he told the Department of Justice and FBI to investigate Floyd’s death.

    In short, societal change has happened before what cable TV talking heads hail as “mostly peaceful protests.”

    My favorite headline comes from CBS News: “Peaceful California protests overshadowed by violence and looting.” The gist of the story is that “opportunistic” criminals have played the social justice card to steal and vandalize.

    You know, there’s a remedy for that. Hold protests in the morning. End them hours before it gets dark. The minute a march gets violent, peaceful protesters could just leave so they can’t be enablers for people for rage-filled sociopaths.

    “Mostly peaceful” is an odd phrase given that police officers, such as Las Vegas officer Shay Mikalonis and retired St. Louis Police Captain David Dorn, have been shot and stabbed during the social justice protests.

    In the name of racial justice, violent ideologues have hidden behind peaceful protesters to destroy small businesses, torch churches, smash store windows and defile public spaces that turn a livable city coarse and ugly. They’ve held cities hostage for more than a week — just as America was getting back to work.

    The same media scolds who clucked when Michigan residents protested Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s heavy-handed stay-at-home orders — because many were not wearing masks to protect against the coronavirus — cheer protests that are the destructive for others and risky for participants. Because this is supposed to be a noble cause.

    It’s so noble that apologists have turned to defending looting.”

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  2. Like that garbage piece from Scientific American Activists I read this morning, the activists ignore science for politics and virtue signaling. Doctors know they shouldn’t diagnose without seeing the patient, yet they all had an opinion.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/virus-politics-public-health-experts-promote-black-lives-matter-protests-reject-lockdown-protests/

    “Virus Politics: Public Health Experts Promote Black Lives Matter Protests, Reject Lockdown Protests

    “Their rules appear ideologically driven as people can only gather for purposes deemed important by the elite central planners”

    “If there were any lingering doubts that Democrat politics was at the bottom of the Wuhan coronavirus lockdowns in Democrat states and jurisdictions, they are out the window now.

    Doctors and other medical professionals have stripped off the mask, so to speak, on the great public health fraud of 2020. Forget social distancing, forget Wuhan coronavirus! They are now urging everyone to join the swirling mobs of protesters, looters, vandals, arsonists, and murderers swarming the streets of cities across the nation.

    The Wuhan coronavirus is nothing, they declare, compared to the health emergency that is racism.”

    “Slate reports:

    There has been a lot of concern on how the protests over the past several days may produce a wave of coronavirus cases. This discussion is often framed as though the pandemic and protests in support of black lives are wholly separate issues, and tackling one requires neglecting the other. But some public health experts are pushing people to understand the deep connection between the two.

    Facing a slew of media requests asking about how protests might be a risk for COVID-19 transmission, a group of infectious disease experts at the University of Washington, with input from other colleagues, drafted a collective response. In an open letter published Sunday, they write that “protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.”

    Politico has more on this need to ignore everything we’ve been told for months, the jobs lost, the livelihoods destroyed, the barbers and salon owners arrested for breaching stay at home orders.

    The restaurant owners who had their licenses revoked because their being open created a profound risk to public health, the law-abiding citizens arrested for surfing alone, for being alone in parks, for being on playgrounds were all nothing but pawns in a disgusting political game aimed at tanking our economy ahead of a presidential election, harming good Americans for cheap fascist thrills, and ultimately, of course, hurting President Trump’s reelection chances.”

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    It’s garbage.

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  3. As I told HRW would happen, the petty little dictator’s “orders not laws” are losing in court when challenged.

    https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/06/07/whitmer-loses-yet-another-round-court/

    “Whitmer Loses Yet Another Round In Court”

    “Things haven’t been going well lately for Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer as various citizens go to court in opposition to her stringent shutdown orders in response to the pandemic. That trend continued this week when the state supreme court ruled in favor of a barbershop owner who decided to reopen his business in defiance of the Governor’s executive orders. While a lower court had sided with the state’s right to restrict such operations, the high court ruled that 77-year-old Karl Manke has “the right to work.” And this one wasn’t even close, with the court delivering a unanimous decision. (Deadline)

    In a ruling that could have future ramifications in the event a second wave of coronavirus strikes, a 77-year-old Michigan barber has won a legal battle against Michigan’s Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who forced him to shutter his business.

    Barber Karl Manke defied shutdown orders from Whitmer and reopened his shop despite state orders prohibiting retail reopenings. Whitmer, who has drawn heavy criticism for her refusal to bend to demands on reopening businesses, subsequently pulled Manke’s license, heavily fined him, and denounced his activity.

    But the Michigan Supreme Court has ruled unanimously that he has the right to work.

    The court was rather pointed in how they structured their ruling, delivering a barely veiled shot at Whitmer’s governing style in the process. They acknowledged that the executive branch does indeed have to power to regulate such activity during a time of crisis, but said that such decisions must be “made according to the rule of law, not hysteria.”

    Ouch.

    The Deadline article makes a very good point in noting that this decision could potentially have serious ramifications for other states facing the same debates, particularly if there’s a major second wave of the novel coronavirus coming our way later in the year. Since the first of these executive orders began rolling out in March and April, I’ve been issuing notes of caution about the limits of executive authority during times of declared emergencies.”

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  4. This is just a stupid idea. Like moronic.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/the-movement-to-defund-police-is-based-on-nothing-but-lies/

    “The movement to defund police is based on nothing but lies”

    “General rule for riots: They begin as protests that have an actual point but then descend into madness. Not only did the orgiastic masses do major long-term damage to the economic prospects of their own communities by rioting in cities across the country, not only did they shout angrily in tightly massed crowds as if they were actively trying to jump-start the coronavirus, but even the supposed thought leaders behind the riots were making radical and destructive policy proposals.

    This was the week that the disturbing slogan “defund the police” caught on.”

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    “The lie that social spending has taken a hit interlocks with the media-created myth that it’s open season on unarmed black men in the US. Fifteen unarmed black people were killed by police last year, as opposed to 25 white people, according to the Washington Post’s database, but black people are much more likely to have police encounters than white people. In an average year, about 49 people are killed by lightning in the US, according to the National Weather Service.

    The “defund the police” open letter was released by Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors, who told Variety that too often police are “the first responder for mental-health crises” or “for drug and alcohol abuse” so we should reallocate those dollars “back to the community” for social spending.

    Not really. By a more than two to one margin, black Americans support the police and 60 percent of black Americans want more police hired, according to a Civis poll published by Vox this week. (Other groups support the police even more strongly). This week was a chilling display of what happens when police are overwhelmed: Looters rampaged down Madison Avenue and cleaned out Macy’s. Images of our city looking like a reenactment of the last act of “Joker” redefined New York for the world. This city’s revenue base is heavily dependent on the taxes that pour into the city from tourists from around the globe. How enthusiastic are these prospective visitors feeling right now, when New York, already reeling from three months of a deadly outbreak, has proven unable even to protect some of its world-famous stores? Our city has not looked this horrible to outsiders since the chaos that followed the 1977 blackout. Far from defunding the police, we need more policing. And police need to have the confidence that their political leaders will back them up.”

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  5. Unbelievable, Chas. Clearly his time was over since he was retired. Time to move him on and let others step up. Said while rolling eyes and tossing hands in the air out of disgust at where our nation is headed. Though I have read the Book and knew it was coming.

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  6. More virtue signaling, and kneeling for forgiveness for their sin of being white.

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  7. Strange court ruling — fairly activist type decision. Essentially they said she had the authority but she didn’t use it properly and instead was hysterical. Interesting wording; if someone took Trump to court over his state of emergency at the US-Mexico border, could/would judges deliberate the style he used or just if he had the authority? Illegal immigration is in decline over the last four years for Trump to divert money to build the wall on an emergency basis could be deemed an act of hysteria . Ultimately, “hysteria” is a judgment call not a legal act. And its a strange choice of words given its history in women’s health — women could be deemed mentally unstable if they were hysterical. (on the other hand its unclear if they were referring to the governor or the court of appeals).

    Whether closing or opening a state is an act of hysteria is a judgment call but two weeks after Memorial weekend and the opening of Florida and Texas — the number of Covid cases in these two states has started to rise.

    Of course one can throw in a hypocrisy charge as people who criticized armed men storming a legislature demanding a haircut are not out on the streets unarmed demanding an end to police brutality. I guess it depends on your values and priorities. Personally I enjoy my six feet of personal space but I’d be more lenient to the BLM crowd than the haircut crowd. The former can be considered a valid public health emergency whereas the latter is inconvenience.

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  8. Does protests and riots change things? Its a rather silly question to ask in a country which has a long history of both and both being effective. The fact almost everyone condemned the police without equivocating is a sign that previous protests have worked. Currently, the Minneapolis police have been charged and will be disbanded, defunding is entering the mainstream discourse, the Louisville chief was fired when his officers turned of the video, the Buffalo police were charged, use of force rules are being rewritten, etc etc. I think the current protests are definitely working. Hence they are continuing.

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  9. HRW, the article AJ quoted severely misrepresents the Michigan Supreme Court’s decision. They did not deliver “a barely veiled shot at Whitmer’s governing style in the process”.

    The Supreme Court’s order explains over several paragraphs how the decision against the barber by two members of the lower court, and their process for reaching it, were flawed. It was in that context that they wrote, “it is incumbent on the courts to ensure decisions are made according to the rule of law, not hysteria.” The lower court’s decision, not the governor’s order, is what’s in question.

    Furthermore the Supreme Court decision is not a final “win” for the barber. All it does is remand the case back to be considered by the entire lower court.

    Nowhere does the order address the question of the governor’s authority (which is being litigated elsewhere) or the barber’s right to work.

    Click to access 161394%202020-06-05%20or.pdf

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  10. AJ – The only reason I mentioned that Scientific American piece was because you and Michelle were discussing the autopsy, and it had some further explanation of it. Unfortunately that got lost among the other stuff they wrote about.

    Here is what I found pertinent, particularly the two segments I put in bold type:

    “On May 29, the country was told that the autopsy of George Floyd “revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation,” and that “potential intoxicants” and preexisting cardiovascular disease “likely contributed to his death.” This requires clarification. Importantly, these commonly quoted phrases did not come from a physician, but were taken from a charging document that utilized politicized interpretations of medical information. As doctors, we wish to highlight for the public that this framing of the circumstances surrounding Floyd’s death was at best, a misinterpretation, and at worst, a deliberate obfuscation.

    A timeline of events illustrates how a series of omissions and commissions regarding Mr. Floyd’s initial autopsy results deceptively fractured the truth. On May 28, a statement released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s office reported ongoing investigations and acknowledgement from the forensic pathologist that an “autopsy … must be interpreted in the context of the pertinent investigative information.” As per standardized medical examination, Floyd’s underlying health conditions and toxicology screen were documented. These are ordinary findings that do not suggest causation of death, yet headlines and the May 29 charging document falsely overstated the role of Floyd’s coronary artery disease and hypertension, which increase the risk of stroke and heart attack over years, not minutes. Asphyxia—suffocation—does not always demonstrate physical signs, as other physician groups have noted.

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  11. Kizzie,

    Yeah, i did note that. But the rest of it was just awful. That wasn’t medical expertise, that was nakedly partisan activism masquerading as real medical opinions and journalism.

    And just a reminder about those partisan drs making opinions on patients they’ve never seen and reports they never read, because some aren’t publicly available yet……

    They’re violating their own ethics codes. They have additional ethical responsibilities when doing media. You don’t diagnose patients you haven’t seen.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/sites/ama-assn.org/files/corp/media-browser/public/hod/i17-refcomm-conby.pdf#page=41

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

    “The Goldwater rule is Section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics,[1] which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.”

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