News/Politics 6-1-20

What’s interesting in the news today?

Open Thread

And it’s not pretty today folks. If you’re squeamish, best to skip the news today. It’s uncensored, with CONTENT WARNINGS!!! galore.

41 thoughts on “News/Politics 6-1-20

  1. Kizzie,

    So you think having your neck kneeled on is worse than this?

    Watch what they did to this man. The beating he received is way worse than Floyds’, and he may yet die as well. Even if he doesn’t, he’ll deal with the after effects for the rest of his life. George isn’t suffering, this man will be for a long time to come.

    His injuries aren’t exacerbated by an underlying condition either, like George’s, and that’s according to the actual autopsy.

    And this man committed no crime.



  2. Make examples.


    “Colinford Mattis, 32, a corporate lawyer and member of Community Board 5 in East New York, was charged along with fellow attorney Urooj Rahman with the attempted attack on an empty police cruiser parked outside the 88th Precinct station house in Fort Greene.”


    “Mayor de Blasio Sunday blamed outside “anarchist” for the violence that erupted in New York over the weekend. But Mattis is a corporate lawyer with Times Square law firm Pryor Cashman.

    Authorities say Rahman, 31, tossed a bottle filled with gasoline through a broken window into the cruiser just before 1 am Saturday but the Molotov cocktail failed to ignite. Rahman jumped into a van driven by Mattis and they sped off, court papers allege

    The attempted torching was captured by video surveillance cameras outside the precinct stationhouse on DeKalb Ave., according to court papers.

    Cops gave chase and stopped the van nearby on Willoughby St. They found the makings of another Molotov cocktail in the back seat along with a gasoline container, authorities say.

    “No rational human being can ever believe that hurling firebombs at police officers and vehicles is justified,” said Brooklyn U.S Attorney Richard Donoghue.

    Neither Rahman nor Mattis have been arrested before, authorities say. They face federal charges and will be arraigned Monday.”


  3. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes….



    Are we tired of all this yet? It’s time to start using whatever force is necessary to end this criminal rioting.


  4. Again, play stupid games…..

    So are the cops wrong here too?

    No. Not at all.



  5. The nuts don’t fall far from the nut trees.

    And don’t bring milk HRW.


    And here’s the Minnesota Dem Govs daughter doing her best to aid these domestic terrorists.


    And DeBlasio’s daughter was arrested….

    “New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s daughter was arrested at a Manhattan protest on Saturday night, law enforcement sources told The Post on Sunday.

    Chiara de Blasio, 25, was taken into custody around 10:30 p.m. after cops declared an unlawful assembly at 12th Street and Broadway in Lower Manhattan, the sources said.

    She had allegedly been blocking traffic on Broadway and was arrested after refusing to move, the source said.

    “That was a real hotspot, police cars were getting burned there, people were throwing and yelling, fighting with cops. There were thousands of people in that area at that time,” the source said.”


  6. Are we sick enough of this garbage to stop it yet?


  7. This does what to stop injustice?

    Nothing, it just further incites.


    A bunch of thugs beating a woman.


  8. Democrats and Hollywood continue to encourage the lawbreaking….

    “Biden Campaign Staffers Contribute To Group Bailing Out Rioters In MN”

    “I don’t know who needs to hear this but when you choose the side of violent rioters and looters over law enforcement and business owners, it’s a bad look, especially for a presidential campaign. It is being reported that some members of Joe Biden’s campaign staff have contributed to a fund in Minnesota that provides bail money for the protesters who are being arrested.

    While the contributions are not confirmed to be officially linked with the Biden campaign, thirteen campaign staffers have taken part in a matching donation option presented by Minnesota Freedom Fund. Staffers posted tweets that donations have been made. Biden’s campaign spokesman Andrew Bates told Reuters that Joe Biden opposes cash bail. He calls it a “modern-day debtors prison.”


  9. Outsiders doing the looting and rioting?


    “Yesterday, while waiting for the SpaceX launch, I watched a number of public statements given by governors and mayors of large cities regarding the ongoing riots in Minneapolis, St. Paul, Atlanta, Chicago and elsewhere. If you did also, you probably noticed one interesting feature that all of them had in common. Now, I’m not saying that they held some sort of meeting in advance to plan out their strategy, but virtually every one of them included statements blaming “outsiders coming into our city” for all of the violence and destruction. Our fine citizens would never behave so reprehensibly. These are outside agitators and Left/Right-wing radicals.

    Governor Tim Walz estimated that at least 80% of the “protesters” came from out of state. The Mayor of Minneapolis similarly pinned the blame on out-of-state anarchists. The Mayor of St. Paul engaged in some one-upmanship and boldly claimed that every single person arrested the night before was from out of state.

    We heard the same thing during the Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore back in 2015. I didn’t believe it then and I didn’t believe it yesterday. And at least in Minneapolis and St. Paul, as it turns out, arrest records are available to show the false nature of those claims. Nearly all of the violent thugs and looters had local addresses. (Fox 9 Minneapolis)

    The overwhelming majority of people arrested in connection with the Minneapolis unrest have Minnesota addresses, a search of the online Hennepin County Jail log shows.

    Of the 45 people arrested for rioting, unlawful assembly, stolen property, burglary or robbery on May 29 and May 30 so far, 38 had Minnesota addresses, according to publicly available jail records reviewed by FOX 9.”


    “The fact is that most large cities already have built-in contingents of people who will immediately leap into action when an “opportunity” involving massive protests comes along. They all have local contingents including Black Lives Matter and other activist groups who are ready to call for violence against the police at the drop of a hat. On top of that, there are pretty much no American cities that don’t suffer from some level of gang activity and violence. Those folks aren’t going to pass up an opportunity to loot everything they can lay their hands on and set a few fires to boot, just to muddy the evidence trail. And I seriously doubt most of them give a hoot about George Floyd.

    What seems to be different this year is both the scale of the violence and the audacity of the rioters in the face of law enforcement. In the past, a well-armed contingent of officers in riot gear frequently reduced the tension levels among protesters who might be considering turning violent. But not this week. Yelling at the police is one thing, but smashing the windows of police vehicles with officers inside, setting them on fire, and burning down police stations takes this to a new level.

    The response in Minnesota from both state and municipal government officials has been weak thus far, despite the promises of more aggressive action from the Governor. And the predators in the streets each night can sense that weakness the same way wolves can smell fear. This was never going to end well, but if the government wants to put a stop to this madness there’s going to have to be some harsh measures taken in response to the violence and domestic terrorism we’re seeing in these cities.”


  10. It was reported in Duluth, MN that 11 were arrested and 1 was from the Twin Cities area. All the others were local.

    I do know of four foolish young men who decided to join some looting. Fortunately, they were caught by some peaceful protesters who video taped them and forced them to call their mothers. They were sent home with a strong warning. That shows the mixture of people doing this.

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  11. Let’s hear it for the moms! And, in my family’s case, a dad who just told the girls to come home. You’ve made your point. Looting is headed your way. Because they obeyed, they watched the looting on television, rather than getting swept up into something they would not have known how to handle.

    Or, had they gotten hurt, would have just radicalized them.

    People were complaining on Twitter that they were just peaceful bystanders and were getting hit by things and tear gas was headed their way. WHY WERE YOU THERE?

    We deliberately avoided downtown when we attended an event yesterday, driving ten miles out of our way. Nothing good was going to come of us just passing by. The police even issued a NIXILE asking people to avoid the freeway.

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  12. The MN governor also confirmed what I heard about the truck that drove into the protesters line. He was caught on the highway BEFORE the barrier went up and was doing 70 MPH. You don’t stop a semi on a dime. His breaks were on and his horn was blaring. No one was injured on the ground. Some protesters protected the driver from other protesters. Everything is not as it seems at first glance. Everyone has to take time to know the truth!

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  14. AJ – As I said in my comment yesterday, “(unless there is more that that particular video didn’t show)”. The video you shared yesterday was quite brief and did not give the full effect of what had happened.

    But even still, it is hard to compare the effects of what happened with that poor man and what happened with George Floyd. What happened with Floyd may not have been as outwardly violent, but the emotional terror factor was probably about the same.

    But even that is not the point. Suffering is suffering.

    What especially chills me about the Floyd thing is that the officer was so cold, just kneeling there on a man’s neck for several minutes, hands in pockets, ignoring Floyd’s pleas and the pleas of bystanders. That is as evil, if not more so, as the hot anger and hatred of those who attacked the other man in this discussion.

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  15. Kizzie,

    That’s Twitter’s new rule. You can’t play it here. Noticed it yesterday. They want the page views, for revenue, I can understand that. Open the Tweet in another tab on Twitter and you can see the videos. Just click the Tweet. They work that way, I just tried several.

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  16. Just like dear old dad.



  17. Great….. 🙄

    What could possibly go wrong?

    “Keith Ellison Chosen to Lead Prosecution in George Floyd Case

    Can he put aside his activism to not mess up the case and present a case to give George Floyd the justice he deserves?”

    “Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison will lead the prosecution in the George Floyd case with assistance from Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman. It turns out “some elected officials and the Minnesota chapter of the” ACLU demanded a special prosecutor since the community does not trust Freeman.

    You guys might remember Ellison as a former Democratic congressman. His ex-girlfriend accused him of pulling her around the bedroom by her hair. He also publicly supported ANTIFA.

    Officer Derek Chauvin faces counts of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

    Ellison promised that the state is “pursuing justice” and “pursuing truth” and “pursuing accountability” while asking for the community’s “trust.”

    But can people trust Ellison? He has a history of political activism. Can they trust him to put aside his political wants to present the best case so George Floyd can get justice?

    Only two days ago Ellison told rioters to take out their anger on the police instead of the National Guard.”

    He then excused the rioters:
    Ellison went on to say that riots such as the one unfolding in Minneapolis are how the “unheard get heard.”

    “Don’t just dismiss that and ignore it and relegate it to just criminality and bad behavior,” he said. “Actually ask yourself what’s going on there.”

    The appointment also came after Ellison said on Fox News that black people in Minnesota had a “reason to fear” the police.

    This is the man who once proudly voiced his support for ANTIFA, who is accused of infiltrating the protests and causing the riots.


    I’m sure it’ll be fine….. 😒


  18. Santa Monica relatives reporting the shops on Montana are boarded up and the owners have cleared out all their merchandise. More anticipated there and in Beverly Hills today, possibly Costa Mesa.

    So, LA City has wisely put a 1 PM curfew into place in an attempt to de-escalate. 4 pm for the whole city, so they’re back sheltering in place. My daughter gets off around 4; no news on what she’s doing though she’s probably exempt as an EMT. Very sobering. 😦


  19. Pray for our nation. I am not praying for forgiveness, but that we are turned from our evil ways and then forgiven. Otherwise, there is no point.

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  20. Now who’s the puritan? 🙂

    “Coronavirus: Sex during lockdown with someone outside your household is illegal from today”

    “Having sex in your own home with someone from a different household is illegal from today, after the government altered its coronavirus legislation.

    At 11.30am on Monday, a change to the law was introduced that bans two people from different households in England gathering in an indoor, private place during the coronavirus lockdown.

    The amendment to the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) Bill states: “No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.”

    Previously, going to another person’s home to have sex would have been a breach of coronavirus lockdown restrictions, but now both parties could be prosecuted under the law. Having sex in public is already illegal.

    Only those with a “reasonable excuse” are permitted to meet in a private place.”



  21. Sure Joe, great idea!

    It would also act as a warning sign for law abiding citizens. Anyone who limps obviously has had prior run ins with cops, and should be avoided, right Joe?

    And blacks won’t be mad, as long as you just wing them……

    “Joe Biden said Monday that police under attack in the line of duty should shoot their assailants “in the leg instead of the heart” as a way to avert the killing of civilians.

    “Instead of standing there and teaching a cop, when there’s an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something, you shoot them in the leg instead of in the heart is a very different thing. There’s a lot of different things that could change,” Biden said in a meeting with community leaders at Bethel AME Church in Wilmington, Del.”


  22. Went to the local BLM protests today — stayed on the outskirts — I’m firm believer in social distancing even during the best of times. I didn’t bring any milk or water for that matter. The police here have a pretty bad rep locally but this time they simply stayed away. I live in one of the most left wing places in Canada so it was a fairly large assembly with lots of support from people walking and driving by.

    I’ve watched all sorts of video in the past few days — compilations of police brutality etc. Its hard to generalize any conclusions. 80% may be from the neighborhood but the other 20% are an interesting mix — small town sisters from upstate New York who went to NYC just to throw Molotov cocktails at cops, a white supremacist using a hunting bow to shoot arrows into a crowd, a well dressed white girl painting BLM everywhere, a white man breaking windows in the Auto Zone (may be a St Paul policeman) and an assortment of college kids, looters and adrenaline junkies. Varied motivations for all.

    The white supremacists claimed he yelled all lives matter and two black men beat him up in his truck. The video shows him shooting arrows into the crowd and then being attacked by two white kids with skateboards. Perhaps he was trying to incite a riot from a protest.

    Interestingly, in the twitter feed concerning the Dallas incident, there’s a claim the man was chasing the black youth with a machete prior to being attack. Now I find that a strange claim — its Texas and he doesn’t have a gun? But then again he’s also defending his store — if he was smart, put up the plywood, go home and file in an insurance claim in the morning.

    The early curfew is bizarre — the sun is still out, nobody wants to go inside. Dusk to dawn makes more sense. In Louisville, a restaurant owner was shot by police as he hosted a party on his restaurant patio. Two weeks ago people want to reopen and now a guy can’t run a restaurant without being shot. Police claim they were returning fire — but they had no idea where the gunfire came from and who was firing. Proper policing would require you to know why and where you are shooting.

    Meanwhile the lights in the white house are out and Trump is hunkering down in the bunker.


  23. DC police are cracking down right now, and clearing the area around the White House before tonight’s 7PM curfew. The President will speak shortly from the Rose Garden.

    This is the line that was crossed last night. This is why you have the police response tonight.


  24. Well liberals, you asked for it. Now you went too far, and a correction is required.

    Trump just stated he has told Govs to call in the NG to quell uprisings. If they refuse, he’ll send in federal forces.

    Let the self fulfilling cries of “See! He’s a dictator!” begin……


  25. It will restart leftist conspiracy theories; if Covid won’t delay the vote, the Army will.

    So much for state rights…..The last time the Army was used was in 1992 in California and Bush Sr discussed it with the governor first.

    So its okay to demand the right to have a haircut but fighting against police brutality is not?

    Irony — Its tyranny for barber shops to be closed but a 7 pm curfew is not.

    Louisville police shut off their body cameras prior to the shooting incident. Very convenient and par for the course in these types of situations — cameras off and badge numbers hidden.

    Maybe the UN can send peace keepers…..that will start some serious right wing conspiracy theories.


  26. Hunkering in a bunker?

    No, he just walked from the WH to the burned St. John’s Church across the park. With not a protester in sight. They were driven from the area.

    And yeah, that’s SOP for when rioters attack the WH anyway, like you had last night. That’s the Secret Services job you know… to keep him safe from the rioting hordes….. 🙄


    “So its okay to demand the right to have a haircut but fighting against police brutality is not?”

    That’s perfectly fine too, when done peacefully, as several protesters have demonstrated. Peacefully!

    But you leftists just couldn’t act like grown up adults. This is why you can’t have nice things.


  27. Remember HRW, the left built this. Enjoy the fruits of your exploitative labors.

    It didn’t have to be this way, but now the rioting hordes have provoked a response.

    “Trump says he is mobilizing ‘heavily armed’ military to stop protests”

    “In a dramatic escalation of a national crisis, National Guard troops were deployed near the White House Monday evening hours after President Donald Trump said he wanted a military show of force against violent protests gripping the country.

    Shortly after, Trump came to the White House Rose Garden to call himself the “law and order” president, saying “domestic terrorism” was to blame for the unrest.

    “As we speak, I am dispatching thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers, military personnel, and law enforcement officers to stop the rioting, looting, vandalism, assaults, and the wanton destruction of property,” he said. “We will end it now.”

    He called on governors to use their National Guard units to “dominate the streets” and said he would deploy the active duty military if governors failed to use the National Guard more forcefully.

    He said he may invoke the 1807 Insurrection Act, which permits a president to deploy military inside the U.S. to deal with civil disorder.”


    Own that @#$%


  28. The UN comment was a joke…..

    I just watched videos of adult white men starting fires telling peaceful protesters they wanted to start a revolution using the code word boogaloo — ie a racial civil war. There’s definitely an element of white supremacists who want to discredit the protest

    The optics were not great. A man who once said he would run into a high school with an active shooter turned out the lights and ran downstairs.

    Yes, he had an entire park full of peaceful protesters cleared out so he could walk to the church for a photo op. The video (so far) shows people standing about 5 feet away from a line of police. They were yelling at them but there were no objects being thrown nor was there any provocation — tear gas was set out and the police rushed at the crowd. As you said, its alright to protest peacefully or perhaps we should add except when the president wants a photo op.


  29. AJ, your very first post in this thread, you are writing to Kizzie and comparing George Floyd’s death to the beating of a man defending his business. I don’t watch graphic material, and so I didn’t watch the video you linked, but I do want to point out some ways your assessment isn’t fair.

    “His injuries aren’t exacerbated by an underlying condition either, like George’s, and that’s according to the actual autopsy.” What does that have to do with anything? Whether a man with a heart condition has a heart attack because he is stressed beyond his endurance or a man with a heart condition is suffocated, either way he was murdered. And Roscuro has explained how their restraints probably were what caused his death, and why such restraints are considered dangerous and inappropriate. “But he wasn’t healthy anyway” is not an excuse, and it isn’t relevant. By that argument, your murder would matter less than the murder of a healthy man–and we don’t want to go down that route.

    “And this man committed no crime.” Where’s the comparison here? As far as I know George Floyd, the man murdered in Minneapolis, had not committed any crime, either–by all accounts he was a Christian brother–and he certainly was not charged with any violent crime, and did not deserve to be killed by police.

    But there is another point you left out that I think is very relevant: Both crimes are utterly inexcusable. But it is WORSE to commit a violent crime against another human being when you have authority over that person and you are supposed to be committed to his well being. Why was Clinton’s misuse of an intern so egregious? Why is it especially horrible when teachers abuse their students or a parent hurts a child? Why do we consider crimes against children or the elderly to be especially wicked? Because abuse of power and authority is really, really ugly. And abuse of power and authority invites anarchy and rebellion. The USA isn’t a colony of Great Britain because we rejected abuse of power. Abuse of power cuts at the very heart of what it means to be a free people. A white policeman putting his foot on the neck of a black man is wicked in profoundly deep ways. Making comparisons that something else is worse or not as bad is making irrelevant comparisons. This was a horrific, grievous abuse of power.

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  30. Cheryl,

    He had heart disease, he was on fentanyl and meth, both of which damage and weaken the heart according to the medical expert who did his autopsy. You know, the “expert” you were just saying you prefer the opinions of during the C-19 discussions.

    And since you didn’t watch the video (and I understand why, it’s hard to watch) you’re opinion is irrelevant. What happened to him was way worse than what happened to George Floyd. Yes, George died, but that doesn’t make the events leading to his death worse than what the man beaten by a crowd of thugs, hit in the head repeatedly with a skate board, and kicked in the head repeatedly endured.

    Sorry, it just doesn’t.

    And whether the person beating your head in with a skate board is in a position of power is irrelevant to the guy getting his head bashed in. Such nonsense is for those watching to whine about, but I assure you it’s irrelevant to the beating victim while he’s being beaten..


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