42 thoughts on “News/Politics 5-29-20

  1. Twitter’s “fact check” needed a fact check. 🙂

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  2. And if they’re looking for something that needs fact checking, they can start with the media.

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  3. There they go again…..

    When you peacefully assemble to air grievances, you’re a protester.

    When you burn, loot, and destroy, you’re a rioter.

    This isn’t hard people.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/nbc-riot-minnesota-george-floyd/

    “NBC Bans Reporters From Using The Word ‘Riot’ In Coverage Of Minnesota Riots”

    “NBC is prohibiting reporters from using the word “riot” in its coverage of violent outbursts in Minnesota that have occurred in response to the killing of George Floyd.

    “While the situation on the ground in Minneapolis is fluid, and there has been violence, it is most accurate at this time to describe what is happening there as ‘protests’–not riots,” NBC host Craig Melvin wrote on Twitter Thursday.”

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  4. Hack.

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    Like I said, it’s not hard to see the difference, unless you’re a liberal with an agenda that is….

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  5. Tell us something we didn’t know….

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bill-clinton-visited-epsteins-orgy-island-netflix-doc-claims-but-ex-president-still-denies-it

    “Bill Clinton visited Epstein’s ‘orgy island,’ Netflix doc claims – but ex-president still denies it”

    “Former President Bill Clinton insists he never visited the notorious “orgy island” of his late ex-pal Jeffrey Epstein – but now a second person begs to differ.

    A longtime tech worker on the Caribbean island claims he once saw Clinton with Epstein in the porch area of Epstein’s villa home – though no one else was with them, according to “Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich,” a new documentary series that begins streaming on Netflix on Wednesday.

    The same area is where Epstein is said to have held sex parties with other guests, including teenage girls, according to The Sun.

    Previously, Virginia Roberts Giuffre – who claims she became Epstein’s “sex slave” at age 17 – said she recalled seeing Clinton on the island, though she said he never acted inappropriately.

    The tech worker, identified as Steve Scully, 70, says he now regrets having worked for Epstein.

    “You tell yourself that you didn’t know for sure and you never really saw anything, but that’s all just rationalization,” Scully says in the Netflix series, according to the Sun. “Jeffrey Epstein, he was a guy who concealed his deviance very well — but he didn’t conceal it that well.”

    A Clinton spokesman reiterated this week that any stories connecting the former president to the island are untrue.”

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    A confession? Or just cover from the underage girls thing?

    I’m thinking B.

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/27/book-claims-bill-clinton-had-an-affair-with-ghislaine-maxwell/

    “New book claims Bill Clinton had an affair with Ghislaine Maxwell”

    “Bill Clinton had an affair with British-born socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, who is accused of helping recruit underage victims for notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, according to a blockbuster new book.”

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  6. Perhaps it is time to disband the police force, let every adult buy a weapon, and make people protect themselves as they can. Obviously, this whole police thing is not working. And we know some good caring police sorts, but intermixed are the less caring. It is only getting worse. It is amazing how people will take advantage of an evil situation to bring more evil.

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  7. What a hack! 🙂

    “I want to be clear on how I characterize this. This is mostly a protest. It is not generally speaking unruly.”

    As buildings burn in the background…….

    Never mind your lying eyes peons……

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  8. These people are only harming their own communities. Think this will improve relations between blacks and police?

    I don’t…..

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    Federal crimes too.

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  9. ———

    And they’re harming black business owners too.

    How is this doing anything to fix the problems and help your community?

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  10. Here’s the list of business already damaged and destroyed, all 130+ of them.

    This does what besides cause resentment and make you look like the thugs you swear to police that you’re not? If you don’t want to be labeled and mistreated, stop giving them more excuses to do so.

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/a-list-of-the-buildings-damaged-looted-in-minneapolis-riots

    “Wednesday night’s protest-turned-riot has left behind a trail of burned out buildings, smashed windows, and looted stores in south Minneapolis and beyond.

    Much of the damage was centered on the area around the Minneapolis Police 3rd Precinct on Lake Street, where protests over the death of George Floyd led to a minority of demonstrators turn their attentions to nearby businesses.

    Here are the reports of damage or looting that have come in since Wednesday evening. This story will be update as more reports come in:

    In Minneapolis
    – Park-Nicollet Minneapolis Clinic: Property damage.

    – K-Mart Lake Street: Property damage.

    – Penzey’s Spices Uptown: Property damage, looting.

    – Walgreens Hennepin and 27th: Property damage.

    – Midori’s Floating World Cafe Lake Street: Fire damage.

    – GM Tobacco Lake and 27th: Fire damage.

    – McDonald’s Lake and 31st: Property damage.

    – Walgreens Central and Lowry in Northeast: Property damage.

    – Wells Fargo Lake Street: Fire and property damage.

    – Ladditude Tattoo Lake and 27th: Fire damage.”

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  11. Good.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-floyd-protesters-set-minneapolis-055809705.html

    “Minneapolis cop who knelt on handcuffed black man arrested”

    “The police officer seen on video kneeling on the neck of George Floyd, a handcuffed black man who died in custody after pleading that he could not breathe, was arrested Friday after three days of often-violent protests that resulted in fires and looting across parts of Minneapolis.

    Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington said state investigators arrested Derek Chauvin, who was one of four officers fired this week, but he did not provide details. The state attorney who would oversee any prosecution on state charges, whose home was also the site of protests, was scheduled to provide an update later Friday.

    News of the arrest came moments after Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz acknowledged the “abject failure” of the response to this week’s protests and called for swift justice for officers involved. Walz said the state would take over the response to the protests and that it’s time to show respect and dignity to those who are suffering.”

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  12. Isn’t this what was happening in Baltimore not too long ago? Pay back the police by destroying the property of friend’s and neighbors does not make sense to me.

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  13. News reporters have a right to cover protests and riots within protocols (which it seems like this crew was doing, from what little I’ve seen). If other people are allowed in the area (and reporters are not disobeying what is general order to leave, applicable to everyone) — and they are properly credentialed, reporters can be there to do their jobs.

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  14. So true, mumsee and Aj. I get tired of those who excuse them.

    We are set to have a protest in the local town we do most of our business in. Some people are afraid (based on the comments I have read) but I think it will be peaceful. The protests we have had in the past have been peaceful.

    I have protested (in the past) myself a few times. What happened the last couple of nights was not a protest. It should not be characterized as such. It started as a protest. It did not end with one.

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  15. It seems to grow (or descend) from what are peaceful protest gatherings during the day into mayhem by nightfall as others stream into the area to join the fray. The two overlap at times, so I can see how the MSNBC reporter would have reported a peaceful gathering in his immediate area from where he was standing while others farther off were setting buildings on fire (or earlier had done so?). Immediate perspective is limited during these events sometimes. Reporter and “hack” are not interchangeable terms. Just sayin’

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  16. Yes DJ, agreed.

    But when buildings are burning behind you while you broadcast, and plainly visible to your audience, and you still make that statement…. you’re a hack.

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  17. Not sure name calling helps anything or makes a valid point at all, really, but carry on.

    “Fact checking” is dangerous territory. Fact check one, then you have to fact check all — without any bias — and good luck with that job. It’ll be interesting to see how Twitter does in taking this particular road. A huge mistake that’s fraught with landmines, I think.

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  18. It’s a protest, not a riot? Sounds like Newspeak to me.

    I’m reminded of when we were still in Pasadena in 1992, after the all-white jury acquitted the white LAPD officers who beat Rodney King. People rioted in South LA for several days, burning down businesses in their own communities. Smoke from the fires blew our way and dropped ash on us. There were a few fires even in Pasadena, including the building where my barber had his shop. He never re-opened.

    Destroying your own community makes no sense. But the seething frustration can’t find a constructive outlet.

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  19. Was the Boston Tea Party a riot and destruction of private property or an act of rebellion?
    Was John Brown a terrorist or a freedom fighter?
    Is it a riot or an act of rebellion or my favorite both? Or even more interesting, perhaps it was the police trying to discredit the protests? This may seem far fetched and conspiracy nonsense but Cdn police have used provocateurs to justify rounding up political protesters in the past so I don’t put it past other police force.
    https://thesource.com/2020/05/29/minnesota-attorney-general-suggests-auto-zone-riot-starter-was-provocateur/?fbclid=IwAR0inXCtERmfzk53zAZ7kvRLwFhGZQYvZW3nHUvD6KaLMyW8M0KveKX2P_Y

    Apparently kneeling was the wrong way to protest so why not this way?

    The manslaughter (in the third degree) charge is a minimal charge — there was a blatant disregard for human life and an intent to kill — when EMS tell you to stop and you don’t, you’ve consciously decided to kill.

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  20. It was a riotous act of rebellion. It was the start of overthrowing the govt. It was a violent act, so clearly more riot than protest.

    Just like now.

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  21. DJ,

    I’m sorry, but he’s a hack. And you don’t have to defend his poor reporting. He and his network don’t deserve it. They are biased, partisan hacks with a clear agenda that reflects poorly on those who do it right. They are doing a disservice to you and your profession. It’s OK if other reporters say so too. Might help even.

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  22. During one of the news conferences yesterday — authorities were discussing the ongoing investigation as they sought more information and more video — people were commenting via text about why they need more video, “you HAVE the video.”

    This is why they want more video. Seeking as much of the truth as is available. And it’s all part of building a case and it takes time.

    https://fox8.com/news/new-video-apparently-shows-three-police-officers-kneeling-on-george-floyd/

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  23. I’m just tired of the go-to one-word put-downs, sorry. Say he was wrong and argue the point without the personal name calling. Fair enough.

    A ‘hack”?

    “Hack” is, well, just rather hackneyed anymore. A weak argument in its best long-ago years.

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  24. Yeah, it’s a conspiracy by police….. 🙄

    To run away while the rioters destroyed their station.

    Get a grip.

    They have a vault and armory, and would have defended it, but the politicians won’t allow that, because the left would cry even louder.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/28/minneapolis-protests-george-floyd-death/

    “Fires raged through the night in Minneapolis after a group of demonstrators swarmed a police station, which officers had been ordered to abandon as protests intensified in a city rocked by the death of a black man in police custody. Demonstrators breached a door and entered the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct station as fires spread, resulting in destruction and further upheaval.”

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    “Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey (D) said he ordered police to vacate the Third Precinct before it was overrun by protesters. “The symbolism of a building cannot outweigh the importance of life, of our officers or to the public,” Frey said early Friday, noting that he made the call after learning there “were imminent threats.””

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    And even your protesters admit they’re just rioters.

    “Protesters in Minneapolis have noted that the riots that have raged through the city are a natural response to Floyd’s death. “There are folks reacting to a violent system,” said activist Michael McDowell. “You can replace property, you can replace businesses, you can replace material things, but you can’t replace a life.”

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    Protesters protest.

    Rioters riot.

    This isn’t as hard as you make it out to be.

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  25. Bit strange of Twitter to suddenly decide to place warnings on Trump’s tweet after allowing years of his nonsense. Trump’s thin skin immediately crafted an executive order — now if he was only this quick with the Coronaviurs. Perhaps Twitter has decided allow the president to condone shooting looters might create a liability issue for them. In any case Trump’s executive order is a joke — Twitter is private property, he posts at their discretion and their terms of use. People and corporations are starting to simply ignore Trump both internationally and domestically. As much as this amuses me, its not good for the western world when the US president is treated as a joke. Not sure Biden can fix it though — hopefully he picks a good VP — a combination of Merkel and Ardern would be good.

    Arresting the CNN reporter was bizarre. You can hear him asking the police where should he go in order to not interfere, they arrest him anyway — of course they had nothing so they release him later — pure intimidation. And of course the left side of the internet quickly noted they arrest the black CNN reporter but not the white CNN reporter. I don’t think that was deliberate but optics people ….

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  26. There are parts of these protests that are just that, as he said, “not unruly.” I saw that myself in much of the film footage on a couple stations last night. Crowds that were calm, seemingly there to make a statement; others looking to make trouble and succeeding at being quite unruly.

    I believe he was trying, in that very short clip posted, to capture that picture.

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  27. So what do we call him then?

    A make believe reporter?

    A horrible at his job reporter?

    Hack seems accurate.

    From Meriam Webster…

    hack adjective
    Definition of hack (Entry 4 of 7)
    1: working for hire especially with mediocre professional standards
    a hack journalist

    2: performed by or suited to a person who works or writes purely for the purpose of earning money : characteristic of a hack : MEDIOCRE
    hack writing

    3: HACKNEYED, TRITE
    hack dramatic scenes

    Definition dotcom says;

    “banal, mediocre, or unoriginal”

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  28. So the Boston Tea Party was a riot and John Brown was a terrorist then….

    My article referred to the Autozone fire and vandalism not the precinct fire.

    The precinct fire was a protest against a system that is perceived as oppressive, I can’t blame a neighborhood for burning a building that holds and protects individuals know to have killed or protected killers.

    Speaking of looting, Moderna pharm was given a $483 million grant by the US gov’t to research for a covid vaccine. Trump pumped the company. The stock soared and the CEOs cashing in their stock options and gained $89 million. Backing up a Brinks truck to the US Treasury is so out of date.

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  29. ad hominem: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining; “vicious ad hominem attacks”

    Ad hominem means “against the man,” and this type of fallacy is sometimes called name calling or the personal attack fallacy. This type of fallacy occurs when someone attacks the person instead of attacking his or her argument.

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  30. If you don’t see the problem with it, then we’re done here, because you don’t want to see it.

    All is well!

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