104 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 4-1-20

  1. Janice @ 6:26 yesterday.
    All of the TV stations have a “green room”, (I think it is). The decide who will wear what. Everyone gors through there. Have you noticed that on TV ther is never a clash of colors, neve a tie untied or rumpled. Never a hair out of place?
    And they can take years off your age. I am looking at Maria Bartaroma on TV now. I checked. That woman is 52 years old.

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  2. Chas, my husband regularly remarks about some commentator that his tie doesn’t go with that suit or that the whole outfit is hideous. He never comments about what the women wear, just the men. He was a banker.

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  3. Fortunately I got a haircut in February. It had been more than a year, and i never wait that long, so I finally went in. (I’d had a really good haircut at a pricey place–for half price–and I hated to get a cheap one too soon after it!) My husband was overdue, and so he finally cut it himself with the extension on his beard razor, and had me cut the very back.

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  4. I was laying in bed at 6:00 this morning trying to think of a reason to get up.
    At 6:15, I got up anyhow, came in and deleted my e-mails. Then I turned around wondering what to do next.
    I KNOW! I need to change the calendar. .
    I did that and went to fix breakfast. .

    This is April. I tried to think of something for April Fool, but couldn’t think of anything as silly as what’s happening in real time.
    Drudge wants to cancel April. I already have.
    No church this month.
    No MWF trips to the Adult Center for Elvera.
    No SS luncheon (restaurant may not be open)
    No Lions.
    NOTHING.
    And when you have nothing you have to do, you put off things that need to be done.
    Like washing dishes..
    But now that’s done too.

    Trump talked on FoxNews for almost two hours last night. It would have cost him millions if he had to pay for that time.
    He comes off looking like a president.

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  5. I put off getting a haircut after I needed one. Now I can’t get one.
    It appears mere serious for a man who doesn’t like hair growing over his ears.
    Chas

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  6. Ear hair…. the bane of my existence….. 🙂

    Never knew I needed it, until I hit 45 or so. My theory is the hair in men is less strong as we age, so it stops growing all the way up and comes out the ears instead. Hate. It. 😦

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  7. Good morning. I had my hair cut about thirty years ago at one of those hair cut places. And then again about ten years ago when my then pastor’s wife thought I needed one so she cut about eight inches off the back. Not planning to go back, ever.

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  8. I made the mistake of wondering in front of a mirror yesterday.

    Yikes!

    I’ve never had this much facial hair in my life. This is what I looked like, minus the red hat. 🎅

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  9. Morning! I have been awake since about 4 or so. The sun is still sleeping in around here and I suppose sooner or later it will be up too!
    I need a haircut! I was scheduled for my appt and then they closed all the salons…it’s getting real interesting and I am feeling a bit shaggy right now. Guess I will be growing out the bangs and wearing a pony tail real soon. Good thing I have no where to go!!

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  10. AJ, I’ve shaved every day of my life since I joined the “AF in 1949.
    I don’t know why. I just do. Nobody around here cares.

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  11. It’s a duck! And I’m guessing a new header photo means AJ’s feeling better. Continuing to pray for restoration of full health in the AJ household.

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  12. I have it on good authority that the sun will rise today. It is beginning to look like it might. When I went outside to go to the pantry for some more pineapple, I noticed snow on the ground and I now hear the sounds of a little baby who wants to get up.

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  13. Good Morning. I had typed out a long post and then lost it.
    I am on information overload and think I need to unplug from all the “educational” videos, zooms, etc that my company is doing.
    Make “care” calls. Check in with your database. Do this. Do that. Who knows what to do?

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  14. I received this email from a professional. When did we lose the ability to properly say this???

    Hi Kimberley, hope you’re doing well!

    Myself and John Brown, Mortgage Companys VP of Outside Sales, will be going live on Facebook to give you an update on the housing and mortgage market. We will also be taking questions. I hope you can join us

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  15. Our haircuts will have to wait.

    A description of the picture would be nice.

    I am cleaning and polishing my cabinet doors with Rejuvenate. It works wonders. I am happy I purchased the cleaner, polisher and pens to cover scratches way back when.

    I am starting on a quilt in between that and reading. Of course, there is more cooking and baking, since we are not going out. Fortunately, my husband does share some of the cooking, but not as much as I do.

    We may record him doing a song. There is a local group that started a lockdown lounge singing group on Facebook and our daughter suggested sending her a video. She would then do some fiddle on it and then put it on the site. Not sure I can record and keep anything steady. Will be a new thing. We are enjoying watching some of the other videos.

    I have been home for two weeks now. I am pretty sure this is the first time in my life.

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  16. Did I mention her doc appt yesterday? I did not go because of the no extras policy. When daughter arrived at the clinic, she called to let them know they were there. A health worker came out to the car and took both of their temps. Then the nurse came out with a piece of their special paper and baby was weighed and measured in the back of the car. Later, the doc came out and did the exam. A person headed to the clinic stopped to see the pretty baby. The doc stepped into his commanding mode and told her to step back (daughter was ready to step back as well!) Then nurse returned with shots and that was it. Drive by exam.

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  17. My father shaved off his beard this past weekend. He said it was to be more hygienic. The last time my father shaved off his beard was when we joined ATI, as they required men to be clean shaven (beards were a sign of rebellion, as they were associated with the hippie movement – no I am not making this up). None of us, including my mother, had ever seen him without a beard before. It took a while to adjust to this strange looking man in the house. I actually felt shy of him for a while. He remained beardless until the fall I went to Nunavut. I had a little difficulty in recognizing him when he came to pick me up from the airport, but I adjusted much more quickly to the beard than I had when he first shaved it, because that was the way I first knew him. Now, he has shaved again, and while I am familiar with both looks, I miss the beard. NB: He is threatening to remove his mustache, and I have never seen him without a mustache.

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  18. My father does not miss his haircuts, because the hair dresser he has had for over four decades lives with him. My siblings all cut their spouses’ hair now too. I cut my own hair, and so does my mither. Second occasionally gets a professional haircut, but will go months between them, so haircuts are something we as a family are not missing right now.

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  19. I am doing an online clinical practicum for emergency department. I might already have this concept being that I have worked in the ED for 16 years.

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  20. RKessler, nursing has always been very strict about uniform, since Nightangale’s time. When I was taking practical nursing, we could only wear solid colours in scrubs, no prints or trimming. In my university course, we had to wear a standard issued uniform, with an embroidered logo. At least we do not have to wear those silly caps and dresses anymore. Scrubs are much more convenient and hygienic.

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  21. Rk did you live in Bellefontaine?? That is just east of Sidney where my Mom’s family still lives and a couple family members live in Bellefontaine😊

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  22. Kim, the caps could not be easily washed. They were extremely unsanitary. The dresses just allowed for easier groping – patients are not automatic saints and not a few are sinners in the eyes of the law – and got in the way of doing work. When I do wound care, I often have to sit on a low stool, with legs apart, in order to dress foot ulcers. I do not need to tell you that position would be very immodest in one of those nursing dresses. No, give me hygiene and safety over a professional look.

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  23. QOD. One of my Bible study ladies a few weeks ago asked me about the locust plague in Africa. I didn’t have an answer, but it’s heartbreaking.

    Today in my Rev 9 read— I’m behind Mumsee— I saw this.

    What are your thoughts? From Enduring Word Commentary Revelation 9:7-10

    The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle: Many attempts have been made to show that this is an accurate (though poetic) description of natural locusts. This approach misses the obvious demonic connection.

    i. Why would God call them locusts if they are not literal locusts, but demonic spirits who swarm and destroy like locusts? Among other reasons, because locusts are agents of God’s judgment. This is a consistent Old Testament figure in passages like Exodus 10:4-14, Deuteronomy 28:38, 1 Kings 8:37, 2 Chronicles 7:13, Joel 1:4, and Amos 4:9.

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  24. Men’s ties also aren’t the most sanitary clothing item as they too do not get washed.

    In my family, women have always cut the hair of their husbands and sons. But my husband had been going to the same barber for 20+ years, and so I said I could learn to cut hair and do it, but he preferred the chance to sit and talk with his barber. I don’t cut my own hair (though I’ve done my bangs, with limited success), but I generally only go twice a year, if that. (I went November or December to February more than a year later last time, which is unusually long; but it isn’t unusual that it ends up being seven or eight months.)

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  25. I used to cut my own hair when it was long and all one length.

    But mine also will soon get to the point of needing a good trim, though it won’t be a disaster if it grows longer — it just won’t have the body it does when it’s just above the shoulders and the layers are all trimmed and do what they’re supposed to do. I still cut my own bangs in between haircuts.

    Pony tails are good. Even when my hair is freshly trimmed, I always rely on an elastic band-pony tail or back knot to get it up and away from my face. My neighbor cuts hair for a living but I doubt she’d be able to do mine standing 6 feet away. 🙂

    Well, I watched the news before going to bed last night, sounds like yesterdays briefing was a jarring one. And this morning I woke up to a story forwarded to me by one of our long-time editors about the bleak outlook for regional and local news outlets; it was bleak before, but now it’s all getting accelerated. No advertising, though our subscriptions are ramping up nicely — but they don’t bring the revenue in like advertising.

    So the job may be shakier than ever going forward, though one wonders how we could ever operate with fewer people.

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  26. Michelle, the older in age and faith I grow, the more I see Revelation as not a picture of the last few years of the world, but of the history of the world from the time of Christ, seen from the other side. The rest of Scripture certainly hints at such a viewpoint. John, who wrote Revelation, writes in his first epistle, “Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that antichrist should come, even now there are many antichrists, whereby we know it is the last time” (2:18). The motif of the Four Horseman, Conquest, War, Famine and Death, recurs again and again throughout the history of A.D. The spirit of antichrist, those who deny that Jesus Christ is Lord, whether by denying his existence, his deity, or his humanity (I John 2:22, 4:3), has cropped up repeatedly, while the false prophets who give life to that spirit of antichrist are a long list, among them Arian, Muhammed, Joseph Smith, and many more. Revelation is the view from the spiritual realm of the age of the Church. From our perspective, we cannot see the battles waged in heaven, but we know we are warriors, as Paul said our war was not against humanity or even the physical realm, but against spiritual forces (Ephesians 6:12). We know from Job that God does allow Satan to wreak disaster and disease upon humanity, for a limited time, which Revelation 9 confirms – notice the time limits on how long these armies can kill humans. Notice also the reason God allows it, to try to spur humanity to repentance, although most do not listen. The Great War and the Spanish influenza pandemic were followed by the giddiness of the Roaring Twenties. Humanity wanted to forget the terrible picture they had seen of their own humanity. In their frenzy, their refusal to watch where they were going created an even worse problem, as the Great Depression, Holocaust and Second World War ensued. As Revelation 9 concludes, “And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet did not repent of the works of their hands…”

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  27. Interesting about ATI (what do the letters stand for?) and beards. Amish don’t have mustaches because one of their persecutors had one.

    So now I have to make up assignments for students for all of April, including new material? Arrgh! I find out Monday how many of them want paper copies that I won’t see until May. Then I’ll be swamped with papers to grade. Not only that, but we can’t fail anyone who doesn’t do the work! If they do the work, our school is guaranteeing them a one letter grade increase. I’ll make sure it it the lowest possible percentage so that the 3rd quarter percentage will average to the lower letter grade. I think we should just make all the classes pass/fail for now. And I think I’ll ask the superintendent if we can postpone graduation so that the seniors don’t get out 2 weeks after we return.

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  28. Peter, ATI stands for Advanced Training Institute, a misnomer if ever there was one. It was ATIA, with the last letter standing for ‘of America’, but the organization became international so they dropped it.

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  29. I certainly wear scrubs and proper atire to work and class. Just seems silly to wear it so I can sit at my kitchen table in front of a computer.

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  30. I have also been reading in Luke, specifically 21, a couple of days ago. Very encouraging to know He knew about it long ago. But even more encouraging is coming up, Michelle, in Revelation 13:8, where we read about the beast that looks like a leopard:
    All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.

    That is us! Our names are written in the Lamb’s book of life from the foundation of the world. How huge is that?
    We knew about this little bundle I am holding and could see pics of her from about two months of life. But God knew and named us thousands of years ago, from the foundations! I have read that many times but it really stood out today.

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  31. rkessler, do they have a camera on you? Why would they even think that helps? Just gives you more unnecessary laundry.

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  32. I was sure it was a duck because I’ve never seen a goose that color. But it’s hard to tell the size without something to compare it with. I finally relented when I read this:
    “The goose has a higher bill: the top of the bill reaches up to the top of the head, whereas the duck’s bill barely reaches to the level of the eye.”
    Definitely a goose.

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  33. My medic corpsman girl wears what looks like a desert camo Army uniform. My assisted living CNA but not employed as such, wears scrub top but regular pants. I have no idea what RN wears.

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  34. I agree with you, Roscuro. I just thought it was interesting about the locusts currently destroying Africa. I think you mentioned it the other day.

    Meanwhile, we finished the entire Bible overview last night from The Bible Project. It took us about 5 nights watching 3 hours a night–so 15 hours.

    I cannot tell you how encouraging and marvelous it was. We simply loved it and came away so impressed by the sweep of God’s consistent message from Genesis to Revelation.

    (And this writer was overwhelmed at how the story weaves together in such an intricate fashion. Truly stunning from that point of view alone. But then it’s truth, too!)

    We appreciated their take on Revelation, particularly, because they emphasize it is not a code book for the end times. 🙂

    I’ll post both videos here and in the next block.

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  35. BTW, it’s census day. Do you know how many people are living at your house today? 🙂

    I wasn’t particularly impressed by the questions in this census. Future genealogists would have trouble–but they won’t need it given how much material is available online.

    Here was my post on the subject: https://www.michelleule.com/2020/03/24/census-3/

    And in curious news, you’ll remember my 2.5-year-old car wouldn’t start yesterday. My husband got out his voltmeter, determined it was the battery, jumped it and let it run for a while.

    Two hours later, our renter was out and his car died. He had it towed to our house, worrying it was the alternator or starter–because his battery was only a few years old.

    Mr. Engineer got out his voltmeter–and it was the battery. Charged it and now the car runs.

    Even he thinks it’s curious that two cars with relatively new batteries discharged in such a shorter period of time–one week for my car, one day for his.

    No explanation–unless we’re under some weird anti-charge cloud over here, but the sky is clear.

    Certainly odd times.

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  36. So, Peter, can they text the answers to you? You can copy the texts to email, correct the papers and send them back?

    I realize you teach language–mail? (I just mailed my grandchildren some puzzles with a self-addressed stamped envelope urging them to write me back).

    Tricky to be a teacher these days.

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  37. My dad never grew a beard. (Mom said he did so once, in Nigeria, but only briefly and he wouldn’t let her take a picture.) He grew a mustache periodically and then would shave it off for a while. I can’t say how long he wore it each way; it might have been a couple of years, or he might have shaved it off for the hot weather. I just know it always looked odd when he shaved it off and then one day he’d grow it out again.

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  38. I wasn’t the one who mentioned East Africa’s locust plagues, though I was aware of it. I recently read Tiny ‘On the Banks of Plum Creek’, and the account of the grasshopper plague they endured was as vivid as ever. I remember as a child reading in the encyclopedia about how locust plagues still happened in Africa . The saddest part of the one happening now is that the locust plagues come upon years of drought and conflict. I did a research project when I was in school on the ongoing drought, and how the food shortage was being worsened by both the ongoing conflict in Somalia, and also Yemen. There were a large number of refugees from East Africa in Yemen, who had to flee back across the Gulf of Aden. They carried with them the cholera plague that killed thousands in Yemen. Due to the instability and conflict, public health has been deactivated and so vaccine preventable diseases such as measles are also killing and maiming. The Four Horsemen have been terribly active in that region.

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  39. Yes, Mumsee, camera on. Had to show name badge, stethescope, pen light and scissors to sit in front of the computer. They don’t know I went out and fed the pigs in my uniform.

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  40. My EMT dresses like Michelle’s. She also has a bullet proof vest but I don’t know that she wears it on each call.

    Husband and I are feeling pretty good this morning, so that is awesome. No results yet, however.

    I am rather grumpy, confined to my room. Could use some prayer for that, please.

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  41. I think scrubs are fine and practical. However, I doubt the dresses were all that immodest being that they were probably long enough to deal with the situation. At least, before the mini skirt era. I doubt those would have been allowed except on television. It was big deal for a nurse to earn her cap.

    I used to cut my husband’s hair. Never enjoyed it and don’t need to do it now. (Well, I may if we are cooped up too long.)

    He had a beard for the first year of our daughter’s life. She was a little leery of him when he shaved it off. She seemed to be wondering who that strange man was. He has had a beard since, but not for a long, long time.

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  42. Roscuro at 10:53: “Nursing has always been very strict about uniform, since Nightangale’s time.”

    This confused me for a minute before I realized she was not talking about Kizzie’s Nightingale (who is also a nurse). 🙂

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  43. RKessler – It is possible that the wearing of the uniform has something to do with attitude and discipline. I’ve read that it is helpful for stay-at-home moms to get fully dressed each morning, even if they know they won’t be going anywhere that day. (I get dressed first thing each morning, including earrings and lipstick, and sometimes a necklace, but I wear slippers instead of shoes. 🙂 )

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    Nightingale has some nice scrubs. The scrub tops are even figure-flattering, as they go in at the waist a bit, and then flare out a bit at the hips. The nursing home she works at doesn’t have a certain color they need to stick to, so the nurses can wear different colors and patterns.

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  44. As I mentioned previously, there has been an outbreak of COVID-19 at the local nursing home, Evergreen, (not the one Nightingale works at). From what I have read, the nurses there are quite stressed, with some of them also getting the virus.

    Earlier today it was announced that Evergreen would be changing to a coronavirus-only facility, and the residents would be moved to various nursing homes throughout the state. Not only did that distress the nurses, but patients’ families were also distressed at their loved ones being moved to what would be a strange place to them, and would probably be further away to visit.

    Our first-selectwoman (we have this instead of a mayor) and the other selectmen made calls opposing this change, and others were also making calls. By afternoon, the plan was scrapped.

    But there is still talk that the nurses’ life insurance (life, not health) has been cancelled. 😦 (Hoping that is merely a rumor, but not sure.)

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  45. Michelle – They can take a picture and send it by email. One student just sent the answers by email, which is fine since I have the original to compare. As for those doing the paper packets- the school is going to have a box at the entrance for them to drop the packets into on certain days during the shut down.

    As for what to wear to work at home- it is ridiculous that RK had to wear her uniform. I wear fleece sweats all day, until the evening college classes. Then I put on a “professional” shirt.

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  46. I wore only skirts from about the age of eight until I wore scrubs for my first nursing course. I know how to move in skirts, and I say a skirt is not appropriate for: movements like kneeling with one knee up on the stretcher or bed when transferring a patient from bed to stretcher or vice versa; for maneuvering around equipment as skirts easily catch; for assuming all the different postures necessary to take care of patients, like the one I have to use for doing foot wounds; or for protecting your legs from hazards, like kneeling on a patient’s grimy floor while giving a treatment (pantyhose are not a satisfactory barrier). Women’s skirts have long been an uneccesary hazard, and working women wearing traditional garb in Africa, Europe, and the Middle East have had to expose their legs far more when tucking up their skirts to do a task than simply wearing trousers would have done (see the imagery of Babylon being demoted from queen to working woman in Isaiah 47:2). The traditional Asian women’s clothing style of loose pants and tunic is much more practical and safe, and scrubs are very similar in construction, having loose fitting pants and top with a long hemline.

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  47. Oh, thanks older-and-wiser sister for the clarification. I wondered if it was about the pig-feeding, but since I’m usually the brat I thought I ought to find out if I was bugging you somehow. 🙂

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  48. Kizzie, what is being stressed in LA right now, too, is that people can be asymptomatic for the virus. But perhaps they’d actually do tests on those residents being moved out, not sure if that would confirm yes or no if one had the virus, whether they were exhibiting symptoms yet or not?

    That’s why they’re saying everyday masks might be in order now whenever we go out in public.

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  49. Mumsee @ 9:10: “Then nurse returned with shots and that was it. Drive by exam.”

    Ah, a drive-by shotting.

    Sorry, sorry — that weird sense of humor that sometimes strikes. 😉

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  50. I need to go put on some earrings. I got out of the habit of doing that so often when all the house repairs were going on that one of my ear lobes almost closed up. Now, working from home, I often skip the makeup and earrings.

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  51. I’ve been dressing up for piano lessons through Zoom in the same way I did with in-person lessons. When I was doing phone lessons the last couple of weeks, though, I wore comfortable home clothes.

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  52. DJ – Yes, people were wondering if infected but non-symptomatic patients would be spreading the virus elsewhere. I don’t know how the nursing home owners proposed to deal with that.

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  53. I’m tired, but I have some raves!!!
    I went to my house where they were doing the tree work. Man, I have a lot of trees. There was a lovely bush by the road, but the association says we are to remove everything next to the road. So I met the guy and mentioned that I was going to get some tools and then would take out that bush. He said, oh we can do that. Wow, I was tired and that was a blessing.

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  54. Then I went to my friends and did three laps around the block, 3 miles. I had seen they were doing road work at the end of the block. My friends told me that the fellow who was stopping traffic was someone I had known when he was a little boy. What fun to talk to him and tell him that I had prayed for him.

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  55. Then my friend and I went back to my place to see how they were doing. We walked around to look and the tree guy said that they were almost done with the bucket truck. When we got to the top of my property, we saw that they had only trimmed up a tree that needed to come out. It leaned over my house and the trunk was touching the deck railing. So they took it out and we got to watch. I took lots of pictures. It was just the right time to talk to him and mention several things. He had written up the order last August so did not remember everything.

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  56. oh, I forgot, he told me that he was going to move around his work so that they could come back on Friday and finish all of my work instead of just doing the one day. Blessed.

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  57. I must be an April Fool because I have been out mowing the lawn. It is very cool so that makes it bearable although for the first session I was on the brink of over doing it.

    We have over 4,000 cases now in GA. The hospitals are gearing up for a really big show in the next several weeks.

    I texted my brother this morning and he did not respond. Then again and no response. Then I called and he answered. He talked to me all about someone’s taxes he had worked on. I finally said I needed to go finish mowing.

    Last night I was helping Wesley refine a cover letter to send to a university that has a position that fits his qualifications. I am positive competition is stiff. It would be nice if he did get an interview.

    Now I have another silly problem. The pea trap at the kitchen sink has a tiny hole so water squirts out to the door where I stand on a mat to wash dishes. Just another fun thing for me to deal with. I am wondering if duct tape might seal it off? Any ideas, friends?

    We had a beautiful session of Bible study and prayer this a.m on Zoom. If anyone is unable to get on, I call them and patch or merge them in on my line. I was glad I knew how to do that when we first had troubles. Last Sunday the leader of our prayer group had gathered a group on her phone who were unable to connect to Zoom. I was on Zoom with two others so I called the leader and we got everyone onto Zoom through my phone. I’m telling you all in case that should be an issue for anyone here. There are so many little techie tricks.

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  58. So, about a couple hours or so ago I decided to check my bank accounts online. I usually do that once a week, usually on the weekend, but had forgotten to this past weekend.

    Imagine my shock and dismay to see almost $500 in Google Play (online games) charges on Hubby’s old account, all of them (33 total) from today! Hubby’s account was used (by him, a few years ago) to buy a game for his tablet. Boy plays on the tablet, and may have accidentally bought things for his games, but usually they ask for info that he doesn’t have. So maybe someone hacked the account? I don’t know.

    I quickly found out that Google Play has a way of reporting unauthorized charges, which I did right away – 33 charges, one at a time. Phew! But I still feel a bit shaky from seeing those charges.

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  59. Yikes Kizzie…that is disconcerting. Has Boy been playing on the tablet today that perhaps he did hit some weird “purchase” button? Hope that all gets smoothed out quickly 😳 (I have heard more reports of hacking happening these past couple of weeks though…scoundrels everywhere!)

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  60. So, the Idaho clinic is just catching up with the clinic in West Africa then. Only, the woman whose baby I examined just after delivery there was on a horse cart, with the horse still hitched to the cart – she couldn’t have stayed on otherwise, as the cart only had two wheels. In some ways, the healthcare conditions that are developing as a result of all this are less shocking to me than many of my fellow workers. I have been here before.

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  61. Kizzie, that is why I do not have credit card information attached to any accounts like that. I always used gift cards I purchased in an actual store to make purchases from iTunes, etc.

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  62. The page that allowed me to report the unauthorized charges also said that it could block further charges from the source. So if Boy accidentally bought stuff for his games, he will be blocked from doing so again. (But he convincingly said that he had not done anything like that. So if he did, it was not on purpose. Even so, at other times when he has asked to buy something, further info needed to be put in before he could do so.)

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  63. Roscuro, what is it about ATI that makes their training “advanced”? How do they view it as different than, hmm, I don’t know, ordinary training?

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  64. 6, they sold it to my parents as being superior to other schooling or even homeschooling methods because it did not follow an orderly flow of graded levels of difficulty in subjects, but rather based its teaching if subjects around Scripture. The Wisdom. booklets took each verse of the Sermon on the Mount and then talked about subjects in different fields that were apparently, however loosely, related to that verse. It made for very fragmentary learning. In the first year, one of the booklets we did (we did one a month) had something on logarithms. Now, I was about 9 at the time, my youngest sibling was still learning to read, and even my eldest sibling was barely into high school, and the logarithm lesson gave no context. Subject after subject was given the same random, cursory introduction. At the end, I wasn’t sure what I knew and what I didn’t or where the gaps were or how to fill them up. The program claimed it covered all the subjects normally taught in school, but it did not use any kind of order. ATI also claimed to be developing alternative programs for higher education, but those who took them found them to be academic dead ends. My Eldest sibling took a program in the Indianapolis training center that claimed to help delinquents by placing them with peers from ATI, who then were to counsel the delinquents. The ATI students were trained first, and then two were placed in a room with a delinquent – these delinquents had actually been charged and sentenced for crimes. It boggles the mind why any judge think it a good idea to place delinquents in with very sheltered, naive students, but at least one judge, James Payne, in Indianapolis thought so. Sometimes, if an ATI family had a troublesome child, they also were sent to this program. I believe that is what the eldest Duggar boy did, after he assaulted his younger siblings, and I personally know of another case (let’s just say, that while the young person initially appeared to reform, the choices made in adulthood did not reflect a changed heart). Oh, ATI had many grandiose plans to keep the children of Christians from ungodly influence, but none of them came to fruition or lasted.

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  65. Long day, big story to do first thing in the morning.

    But time to “let it go” as the song says 🙂 It’s after 7 p.m. here already, getting dark.

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  66. Thanks, Roscuro. So I guess the ATI program apparently makes children superior Christians and godly counselors for delinquent peers. Wow. Soli ATI gloria.

    /sarcasm

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  67. Looks like we might pull off another 100+ thread. Lots of interesting conversations here lately.

    I’m going to bed, but when I get up, I predict there will be a 3-digit number of comments here. Who will get 100? It will be fun to see. 🙂

    Or will everyone be shy?

    Nah. 😉

    Good night, all, and sweet dreams.

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  68. I cut my bangs all the time – I’m sure it drives my stylist nuts, but… I refuse to pay every three weeks for a bangs trim. My hair grows too fast.

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  69. NancyJill, we lived in Quincy, and went to high school in DeGraff. I think they are between Sidney and Bellefontaine.

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