68 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 3-13-20

  1. Good morning! Love that blue sky header. We have not seen enough of that in 2020 in Atlanta. The sky is white this a.m. here.

    I was outside a bit ago trying to get some leftover leaf debris out from the hedge in front of the house. I found a tiny bird’s nest that seemed to be from another past season. It is so cute. My brother has found another there when he trimmed in the past. It was up higher than my head and when I was trying to get it out I thought it was going to be a large clump of moss which had fallen from the old roof which I often found in that shrubbery. I could put the nest back but since it seemed old I suppose it is okay not to. Since it has been touched by human hands I figure a bird would no longer want to use it. But chickens don’t seem to mind a human bothering with their nesting box. I guess chickens are somewhat domesticated.

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  2. As often happens, I am behind on the daily thread comments, but I am reading today’s and will catch up with yesterday’s.

    As you know, X only has supervised visits with Boy now, of only four hours one day a weekend. Before this, he had him much more time.

    So, after this started (but not because of it, merely a coincidence of timing), Nightingale has been picking up more shifts in addition to her usual schedule, including some doubles. This month that is three Mondays in a row starting next Monday.

    Now, our town has closed the schools, also starting next Monday, for at least two weeks. 😦

    And wouldn’tcha know it? This weekend is Nightingale’s weekend to work, but she took off one of her days (but is working today to make up for it), and X’s visitation will be on the day she has off, not on the day I childsit.

    I am feeling a bit overwhelmed by the thought of it. I was not ready for “summer vacation” to hit yet. (Hopefully, this is temporary and does not go through the end of the school year.) The three of us will have to have a talk about what is expected on these days off from school.

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  3. Janice – I’m not sure, but I think I read that it is not true that a mother bird will not come back to a nest or egg or baby bird that has been touched by human hands. I could be mistaken on that, though. Maybe it was some other kind of animal I read about.

    I bet Cheryl knows!

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  4. Also, as is the case in most states these days (maybe every state?), no visitors are allowed in the nursing homes. Nightingale is being very careful, for her sake, our sake, and the sake of her patients.

    Like those in some other states, our governor has issued an order against gatherings of more than 250 people.

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  5. Good morning everyone. ‘Tis a gloomy frosty morning in this forest and the winds are howling! The snow has not begun to fall as of yet but “they” are telling us it is just a matter of moments before we see white flakes! It is a stay indoors kind of day…coffee in hand! 😊

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  6. We are supposed to get snow this weekend. For now, it is mid twenties expected to get up into mid forties. Meanwhile, in my window, tomatoes, peppers, and bok choi are preparing to go outside. The bok choi may get eaten before it can go out though.

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  7. I provided a rather long update on the news thread, from friends serving in Europe. We met them while in Italy where they were living but they have returned to her home country of Switzerland. He is from the US and wanted us to know what it is like over there right now.

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  8. QOD: How do you think our society’s last 10-15 years of reading dystopian books, watching apocalyptic movies and its preoccupation with zombies is affecting our (well, maybe not mine and yours) ability to handle the Covid situation?

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  9. We had the guy who put our bathroom floor in (in fact did the whole bathroom) to check it out. We have a composite tile and a couple had bubbled up. We called long ago, but like all the rest of the job, it has taken him a long time to get here. Now some of the grout is out and at least four contiguous tiles are affected. He has never seen this, so he is going back to the company to get more information and see what they want to do. We started asking them to do this project almost two years ago. Took him a year and a half to get here to do it. This is a local company and we wanted to go local. We have been most disappointed. Sadly, I could not recommend them to anyone. They were recommended to us, so I think it does depend on the worker. He is their only plumber. None of this is really that big a deal in the realm of all that can be wrong, but it is disappointing to us.

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  10. Thanks to all who commented about my aunt’s death. The funeral is tomorrow when my brother is needed to help Art at the tax business. My brother will go to the funeral. I do not plan to attend.

    Yesterday I took those boxes of paper to Staples. They brought th them into the store. A call was made involving a lot of time on hold. Finally it was decided I had to take them back home to get them to pick up the boxes today and bring the right product. That would occur anytime between 9:00 and 5:00. I am glad to say it has now been taken care of. Was all the trouble worth getting the paper for half price? I do not know. It sure has taken a lot of time and effort.

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  11. We had hoped to become a certified family home so we could manage our daughter a bit easier, but that meant electrical inspections and other such. We have tried for years to get an electrician to get some work done, to no avail. This has been no different. I tell my children, forget college, be a plumber or an electrician.

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  12. I’m up, but immediately I’m dealing with emails, editor texts and a story deadline. The company sent an email out a little while ago that we should all be trying to work from home. Most reporters have been doing that for the better part of a year now, but I suppose this will involve other office staff, including my pod-mate who is an office manager for the LB paper and was told earlier she had to come in every day (and she lives in Venice, so it’s a bit of a commute for her).

    There was an early-morning meeting of LAUSD board members today, I’m expecting LA schools to be closed next (the teachers’ union is pushing for that). The announcement’s probably already been made.

    All of this also has turned into quite the challenge for the Trump administration. I’m not quick to “blame” presidents during these messes, they happen and there’s only so much that can be done. But that said, his speech the other night really was underwhelming — he seemed to speak in a tired, ‘gaspy’ monotone and there were a couple self-corrections he had to make later to his own words. It was like this has finally thrown him off his game. Bluster and wisecracks aren’t going to see him through this.

    And why exactly are there so few coronavirus tests (still??) available in the U.S.? I was thinking everyone in Carol’s home (and other homes) really should be getting tested.

    I said a few months ago, regarding the election, that predictions are impossible because “anything can happen.” I think this is one of those anythings that could happen and it probably will play a big role in November. Not that Biden engenders any more confidence at this stage …

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  13. I can still drive!
    I am limited to daylight. (No difference, it has been that way since 2015)
    But I’m not supposed to go over 45 mph and not drive over five miles away. (I don’t understand that, but it doesn’t matter. All my diving for the past few years has been local anyhow. And if I do drive seven, who knows?)
    So? I still have wheels for all the driving I need.
    Thanx for the prayers.

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  14. No more speeding.

    And yes, LA and SD schools are out for the count:

    LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Unified School District and the San Diego Unified School District, the two largest districts in California, serving more than 750,000 students combined, announced today that both will close, effective Monday, March 16, in an effort to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

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  15. I saw my neighbor while at the mailbox and he said he and the children are semi-quarantined so I will be hearing them.

    I just got an email from church that this Sunday will be our last as a full congregation. Young people will be assigned older members to help with needs while the elders are in isolation. I hope no one feels resentful of an additional burden.

    I probably only have a week’s supply of toilet paper here and also at the office. When reminding people of appointments we may have to tell them BYOTP.

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  16. This should help cut some of the red tape.

    But the left will hate it because it gives Trump all the power and final say.

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/03/13/breaking-trump-declare-covid-19-stafford-act-national-emergency/

    “Trump To Declare COVID-19 A Stafford Act National Emergency”

    —-

    “President Donald Trump plans to declare a national emergency on Friday over the coronavirus outbreak, invoking the Stafford Act to open the door to more federal aid for states and municipalities, according to two people familiar with the matter. …

    An emergency declaration would allow a state to request a 75% federal cost-share for expenses that include emergency workers, medical tests, medical supplies, vaccinations, security for medical facilities, and more, according to a letter Democrats sent the president earlier this week.

    Only a few emergency declarations for public health threats have been made since the 1960s, and only two have targeted disease outbreaks, when President Bill Clinton in 2000 declared emergencies in New York and New Jersey in response to the West Nile Virus.”

    —–

    “If people are unhappy that Trump hasn’t taken enough direct action in response to the crisis, they may get a lot more than they bargained for. The Stafford Act gives the executive branch a lot of latitude in dealing with emergencies, and its Title VII section gives a president near-plenary authority to create regulation to deal with the emergency.

    Sec. 701. Rules and Regulations (42 U.S.C. 5201)

    (a) Rules and Regulations

    (1) The President may prescribe such rules and regulations as may be necessary and proper to carry out any of the provisions of this Act, and he may exercise any power or authority conferred on him by any section of this Act either directly or through such Federal agency or agencies as he may designate.

    (2) Deadline for payment of assistance – Rules and regulations authorized by paragraph (1) shall provide that payment of any assistance under this Act to a State shall be completed within 60 days after the date of approval of such assistance.

    (b) In furtherance of the purposes of this Act, the President or his delegate may accept and use bequests, gifts, or donations of service, money, or property, real, personal, or mixed, tangible, or intangible. All sums received under this subsection shall be deposited in a separate fund on the books of the Treasury and shall be available for expenditure upon the certification of the President or his delegate. At the request of the President or his delegate, the Secretary of the Treasury may invest and reinvest excess monies in the fund. Such investments shall be in public debt securities with maturities suitable for the needs of the fund and shall bear interest at rates determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, taking into consideration current market yields on outstanding marketable obligations of the United States of comparable maturities. The interest on such investments shall be credited to, and form a part of, the fund.

    Generally speaking, this is a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency authority. Trump’s reluctance to use it until now was undoubtedly due to his desire to keep panic down.”

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  17. Re touching a bird’s nest: Believe it or not, latest research still isn’t sure (last I heard) whether most birds can smell at all. We know that vultures can smell, and that some find food that way, but with passerines (songbirds) it’s unknown. Birds don’t abandon nests because they can smell people on the nest or the nestlings BUT birds can and do abandon nests if the nest seems to have been compromised. So if a predator seems to have found the nest, she may not return, even if in fact it decided her nestlings were too large–or she may go back later and it may or may not be in time. So people messing with a nest can cause the parents to abandon it if they try to return to the nest just while the person is there, but it isn’t because they smell the person’s scent. Some species are quicker to abandon the nest than others. Also, a person interacting with the nest can tell predators where a nest is (and of course most predators do have a good sense of smell). So the general rule is bother a nest as little as possible.

    But birds rarely reuse last year’s nest, and it’s mostly large nests that do get reused (bald eagles, for instance) or nest cavities. Nests are breeding places for mites, so that’s one reason nests don’t get reused that often. Technically it is illegal to own a bird’s nest for most species of birds, so I’d be more concerned about keeping it than about taking it down.

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  18. Husband had a baby sleeping on his chest and a baby sleeping on his legs while he was on the recliner. Daughter was off trying to deal with insurance company and nine hundred plus thousand dollar bill. I said, why is her husband not dealing with this, he is in quarantine and has absolutely nothing to do for the next week plus? Husband brought that to her attention again and she relinquished. He had it taken care of within the hour. Why is it so hard for us to trust each other? She has learned this about him over and over. He wants to help but she wants to do it herself. I reminded husband how long it took me to get over myself. She is doing well. He is doing well. They will do this. Pray for them.

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  19. K e l l e r W ill iams had us on an emergency leadership call at noon. All training, meetings, etc are going to corporate Zoom. There is another call after the president’s press conference.
    Once again I think something isn’t going to impact my life and then it does.

    Oh, and my rant about the VA??? They deposited a nice amount of money into Mr P’s bank account two weeks ago today. Yesterday he received a letter that it was a mistake and they would be debiting his account $800 a month until it was paid back. Good thing he was suspicious and didn’t spend it. Imagine if that happened to someone else who really needed the money (not like we don’t…the IRS would have loved to have it),

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  20. Our pastor is going to do a live stream on Saturday morning about how our church is going to handle this crisis.

    As the crisis worsens, I find myself wishing (more than usual) that Hubby could be here with us. And this may be silly, but I wish that Chickadee could be hunkering down here with me/us, instead of with the McKs.

    Speaking of Chickadee, I had a dream the other night that she just happened to drop in to spend the day, and was working on some project. I was happy she was here, and looked forward to spending the day with her. But my mom was telling me that I had to go to school! 😀

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  21. On the local Facebook pages, some people are offering to babysit children for parents who can’t take time off of work, and others are offering other forms of help. That is refreshing to see.

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  22. Perhaps something like this would be useful?
    A Neighborly Invitation Regarding Coronavirus

    Adapted from a communication in London

    Dear [NAME],

    Hello, from [NAME] at [ADDRESS]. We have lived here since [YEAR] but we don’t know all of you. Given these uncertain times, we thought this would be a good time to change that!

    None of us know what the impact of Coronavirus will be on our neighborhood. But we’d like to start thinking about how to adapt should the virus become widespread, should schools and workplaces close, and should neighborhoods or houses become quarantined.

    Many of us have our own support systems, families, friends and communities, who we will help and be helped by in challenging times. However, while some of us have support networks in this neighborhood, others do not. In the event of a large-scale shutdown across [CITY/STATE], local support networks will become particularly important.

    We would like to facilitate building a ‘hyper-local’ support network right here in our neighborhood.

    We envision a network that could help with the following things:

    Sharing supplies if there are shortages (i.e., painkillers, cleaning products)
    Bringing pre-cooked meals for families in which everyone or the main caregivers are sick.
    Checking in (possibly remotely) on elderly residents or those who are in high-risk groups and do not live with a caregiver.
    Assisting with minor DIY tasks if it becomes impossible to get help.
    Assisting with teaching young people should schools be closed.

    In order to gauge interest in this idea and help build this network, we would be grateful if you could email [NAME] at [EMAIL ADDRESS] the following information:

    1. What is your address?

    2. What is your name and who else lives in your house? If you don’t want to supply names, ages are fine.

    3. Are you interested in joining this network?

    4. If you are interested, what is your contact number?

    5. Do you use WhatsApp and would a WhatsApp group be a good way to build this network?

    6. If not WhatsApp, which means of communication would you prefer?

    7. Do you have any particular needs or Coronavirus risk factors that the network could help address?

    8. Do you have any skills or anything else you could bring to the network?

    Many thanks for your help. We look forward to your responses.

    Sincerely,

    [NAME]

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  23. I just got to see Wesley’s dedication page on his dissertation and he included Art and me (his parents) with some friends. It’s such a kind gesture toward us. My heart is touched. I needed that today.

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  24. I read the article Janice.
    Steve Scoggins was my pastor in Hendersonville. I have all confidence in his love for Christ and the people of God.
    I don’t know about the issues described. I do know that Satan can, and will, given a chance, split up Christian fellowship over trivia.
    I saw that happen at Intervarsity Christian Fellowship while at USCarolina. People who love the Lord and other Christians can’t get along because of some trivial dissention.
    Baptist, Presbyterians and others can disagree on certain issues but still love each other like kin. This blog is evidence of that.

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  25. The college seniors I had here were resigned to online classes, but mostly disappointed not to be with the friends they’ve made during their four years in college. That never would have occurred to me–but I went to a big school.

    We use Zoom for our weekly staff meetings and have found it an easy platform, but one of our agents with college student children noted there’s a difference between a friendly Zoom meeting and taking classes via an online platform. It will be interesting to see how this experiment goes.

    OTOH, it may convince some students they’re better off taking classes online than at $70K a year colleges–which might burst some of that collegiate tuition inflation.

    However, if you do not have a robust Internet and with libraries closed, this could be a problem for students. 😦

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  26. this was the email from our church sent out this week:

    __________________________

    Like so many of you, we have spent the last few days and weeks learning about the Coronavirus (COVID-19) and how it is impacting our community. From water shortages, a lack of toilet paper (the real travesty here), and other things, we want to be proactive in realizing and actualizing a few things.

    First, we are not dictated by fear, but by God’s word as it gives us wisdom to make decisions. Before us, perhaps, we may have a wonderful opportunity to minister the gospel to those who are panicking. Like world events that have shaped us in the past, please be thinking on new ways to share with others as they contemplate eternity. Do your best not to get swept up in all of the news and emails you are no doubt watching and receiving. Be wise, but rest and trust that not a single hair on your head will fall without our Father in heaven knowing about it. We take a stand and do not approach this with worldly eyes but in full rest and assurance of God’s goodness and glory.

    Second, though the politicians in Sacramento have warned Californians to avoid social contact, the reality is we will still be having our church service so that we can worship Jesus Christ in Spirit and in Truth, as a family, on Sunday. No, the service will not be cancelled. This does presuppose the fact that each of our family members needs to be wise when coming; keeping sick kids at home, washing hands thoroughly and following the CDC’s guidelines on best practices to stop the spread of germs.

    Third, though we will not be having communion this week due to no teaching elder present, we are taking precautions for further weeks and have come up with some good plans for those who do not feel comfortable. We will also be canceling Sunday school this week in an effort to keep contact/time to a minimum so please make a note accordingly. We will be engaging our cleaning services this week and have already had the carpet company come and clean the chairs/carpet.

    If any of you have questions or suggestions, please feel free to contact me or any of the elders/deacons at any time and we will do our best to get back to you. In the meantime, until Sunday, keep dry, stay hydrated (just go outside and open your mouths), and engage our community with the gospel of hope in any and all circumstances.

    With love, ….
    __________________________

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  27. Our governor has mandated any gatherings of 250 people be cancelled. Large churches are now going to have “online” church.
    Our campus has cancelled the pot luck after service this Sunday and we must find another location to meet until this calms down…all contracts with schools have been put on hold…we aren’t certain if we will be meeting or not.
    Sadly we have had a death in our county due to the virus today…the first for Colorado. I’m thinking this will put the fear in some…

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  28. As DJ posted what she received from her pastor, I will post what my pastor sent out in case any of your churches are trying to put together a plan. I saw we have 31 cases in GA and one death so far.

    “Hello Everyone. I know you get weary at a different plan each day but we are doing our best to respond to the virus situation as it evolves. By now you probably are aware that most schools, church services and events in Atlanta have either been suspended or have been moved to online. Here is where we are for the next few days…

    This Sunday, we will have one worship service at 10:45am. Some of the small group Bible Study classes will meet at 9:30am. Check with your teacher about your class.
    We are meeting this Sunday for a number of reasons. First and foremost to Worship our Lord and Savior
    We will also gather to support and encourage each other.
    Another reason is to have a direct line of communication concerning future events at our church.
    Finally to implement a ministry of younger families “buddying up” with older people to assist them and stay in touch with them during a time of probable separation though advised isolation.
    Ways that we foresee our younger families our younger (not as in danger) families helping is though simple communication, transportation to doctor/hospital if needed, insuring food and other necessities are available and assisting with IT or Internet opportunities.
    We will broadcast a worship ser4vice at 10:45am on Facebook this Sunday and every Sunday forward that we possibly can.
    If you feel sick or are fearful of attending the service this Sunday, please do not come. Contact me at ——– or ———(my cell) and we will get someone assigned to you. You can also use my contact info to reach out to me anytime for anything.
    If you possibly can attend this Sunday please do so. It could be the last time we see each other for a period of time and we can pair you up with someone immediately.
    Remember…use alcohol based sanitizers regularly, wash your hands often, cover your mouth when sneezing, don’t shake hands or hug and stay home when feeling sick.
    BUT MOST OF ALL…PRAY. Pray for each other, for our church leaders, for our nation’s leaders, for the many people who work at the CDC, for health care professionals, for people in other countries, and for opportunities that this crisis provides to share the assurance and hope we have in Christ.
    We love you at Bridgepoint and stand ready to help at any time. YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

    Jim
    Please forgive any grammatical mistakes. I am sending this from a funeral home in Georgetown, Texas where I have been asked to officiate at a former church member’s memorial service. I hope to return home tonight so please pray for me.

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  29. Our pastor suggested one worship service, but Mr. Covid Task Force told him that was the wrong way to handle it–we should go to three services to increase the social distance between people.

    They’re thinking about that.

    My husband pointed out people still need fellowship and they need to be able to pray together; worship is important.

    I may just sit in the choir loft. Choir has been canceled until April, as has just about everything else.

    Still thinking about my Tuesday Bible study–but I have three days to decide.

    Christianity Today had some suggestions. The chart was very helpful, about halfway down.

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/march-web-only/seattle-churches-stop-meeting-to-slow-covid-19-coronavirus.html?utm_source=ctweekly

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  30. And now the USS Iowa is closed.

    I know, what!?

    A ship that survived WWII and then a bug gets it in the end?

    It’s only temporary, but …

    ++++++++++++
    Our church email was written by our director of congregational care, a young (30-something) dad who’s at risk himself as he’s had some congenital health issues that have required 2 (I think) liver transplants over the years and lands him in the hospital still from time to time. 😦 We have another member of the congregation who also had a recent liver transplant and is still on oxygen as her body has had a hard time accepting it. I doubt she’ll be coming to church.

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  31. Our library shut down, too. (We only have one, but it’s a nice one.)

    A lady posted on one of the local FB pages asking for a little help. Her husband had recently had a kidney transplant (she donated one of hers), and the doctors recommended bottled water for him (because their water may have too much bacteria, I think). But the stores are out of bottled water, as well as hand sanitizer and some other items she needed for him.

    People stepped up and delivered to her what she and her husband needed. 🙂

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  32. We just received notice that church is cancelled this Sunday but we can watch our Pastor’s on FB share their take on the situation.
    Kizzie that is a wonderful example of how to come to the aid of others. Hoping for many more stories such as this as we make our way through together. We are seeing some Moms reaching out to other Moms who may need care for their children during the school shutdown…and several people are even offering to share the TP they have on hand!! 😊

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  33. The governor of Illinois decided to close all the schools from next Tuesday – 3/30 (2 weeks). So instead of snow days we get a pandemic. I guess Mrs. L. and I can go see the grandchildren.

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  34. I am seeing that it’s good to wear gloves when you go out to the stores. But all I have are gardening gloves.

    The Ralphs is open until 1 a.m. so I’m planning a rather late-night, quick shopping excursion in hopes of avoiding the horrendous crowds and lines I keep hearing about. I feel like I don’t now how to properly accessorize to grocery shop, however. Gloves? paper towels? What else do I need to bring?

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  35. I just want to grab some milk, OJ and a loaf of bread, peanut butter, maybe some rice/pasta, a couple frozen meals (I have some of that already but could use a bit more perhaps).

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  36. Emotionally, I really want to buy some toilet paper. But I do have about 10 rolls here that should last me until the supplies come back on the shelves in another couple weeks?

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  37. Did I mention that when I went to Trader Joe’s yesterday they had just disinfected all of their shopping carts. I am reasonably stocked up for now. Though it is getting lonely here with no Tv.

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  38. I did some laps around the church this evening and then visited the church library. I have my own key as well as a special key to the church. Now I have a stack of books to read!!!

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