35 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 2-4-19

  1. Good morning NancyJ and everyone else but Jo.
    good night Jo.
    When I went to bed, it was a 3/3 tie. The sports link this morning said the Patriots won in an ugly game, but I still don’t know what the score was. Guess I’ll have to worry about that until after breakfast.
    I was for the Patriots because they had the best helmets.

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  2. I missed them, .
    Today’s a busy day starting in about an hour.
    Plumbers are coming and I am taking Elvera to The Adult cater.
    As soon as I turned away .from the computer, I saw on the TV screen”
    Patriots 13 -Rams 3.

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  3. Good morning! Art got home in time to turn on most of the last half of the game. With that score 3-3 he figured he did not miss much. He was pulling for the Patriots because of the coach and quarterback. My friend, Karen, said she was pulling for them, too, for the same reasons. I had mixed feelings since I know some who wanted the Rams (DJ) to win. I am thankful that everyone got to enjoy the event without some disaster happening.

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  4. Lots of fresh snow for chores this morning. I love fresh snow! And snowboots and snowpants and all. Very grateful for the time period in which I was born.

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  5. I lost the video halfway through for some reason.
    There were so many commercials, I don’t see how they had time for football. Some of those products I’ve never heard of.
    Have you noticed that when a woman and a car are in the picture, the woman is always driving?

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  6. I’m so sorry for all of you having to sit through a boring football game. At the party I attended, I got to play with an Adorable chunky 4 month-old who spent all his lap time flashing a delight grin at me.

    Ah, bliss! πŸ™‚

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  7. So far, I have spent more of the tax season at home than at the office. I have two weeks worth of clothing lined up ready to go. Miss Bosley is loving having me home. I have mixed feelings as I fill I need to be at the office to help the new person so it won’t feel so stressful to her. The other new person got hired for another business ess but will still help some.

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  8. And yes, it was pretty much a boring game. All about the defense.

    Rams actually did better than I thought they would.

    Patriots winning yet again? Yawn. Hardly a thriller.

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  9. We are having pot roast leftovers, too. I am happy about that. We seldom have if. I am mostly having beef liver once a week for our red meat so Art can build up his blood after he lost a lot during the kidney surgery. We eat a lot of chicken, fish, eggs, and beans, otherwise. I use to eat tofu until I got more informed here on the blog that it’s not good to have soy in the diet. And that brings to mind all the soy formulas for babies with allergies.

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  10. I’m tossing out the leftover pot roast which I made into a shepherd’s pie. We often prefer it the second day in the pie but the flavor was off on this one.

    Pesto ravioli for us tonight! πŸ™‚

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  11. Michelle, I have no idea how salt affects it. I don’t use salt in rice as I cook it, and not a lot in my fried rice, so I guess the salt in the soy sauce is thus diluted a bit.


  12. I always think I will get through the inmate Bible study lessons faster than I do (phone wanted Bible to be Bieber). I hope to finish the last three. Sometimes it is difficult to read their writing or decide what is best to tell them.


  13. Haven’t yet read today’s comments on this thread, but I am jumping in with this. Just a little while ago, I read 6 Arrows’ comment from last night about being upset by the vaccine discussion. I felt terrible when I thought of that post from the pediatrician that I had shared. I immediately sent her an email to explain, and want to share that explanation with you all here, too:

    “I wish I was clearer in sharing that post by the pediatrician. I did not agree with his harshness, and I certainly did not agree with his threat to report a non-vaccinating parent to the authorities for medical neglect. I shared it to show how vehement some doctors can be on the issue. But also because, although the rest of it was written in a harsh manner, he did explain why a non-vaccinated child could be dangerous to certain other children.”


  14. Kizzie, the reality is that it is a sick child who is dangerous to another child, not specifically an unvaccinated child who is. The irony is that the recently vaccinated child might actually be a real danger to the vulnerable child! (If a live vaccine is used, that is a threat to a person with a compromised immune system.) Must all sick children stay out of that doctor’s waiting room? Does he refuse to see children with the flu or a cold? Trying to keep a doctor’s office “safe” for vulnerable children only by requiring vaccinations isn’t a reasonable standard. When going to the doctor, you are aware there are likely to be sick people present (even vaccinated sick people). If you or your child is vulnerable, then you take reasonable precautions when going to a waiting room that is likely to have sick people in it.

    If it is truly the vulnerable children that pediatrician is worried about, and not patients who don’t follow every detail of his medical advice, then there are better ways of dealing with it. For instance, have separate waiting rooms for patients who are actively sick and patients who are coming for well-child visits. Wipe down surfaces regularly, and have appropriate filters in place. Make sure parents of vulnerable children have masks or whatever they need to shield from germs when they come to the office. Better yet–and this is my primary suggestion–have a separate, private entrance for such patients, leading more or less directly to a room in which you see only such patients.

    I know someone who is medically vulnerable, and I’m not making these suggestions flippantly, just pointing out how useless “immunize to protect my other patients” is. Immunizing against a few specific diseases is not going to make a pediatrician’s office a “safe” place for vulnerable children, and that doctor knows it isn’t. He wrote a rant because he doesn’t like it that some parents don’t follow the details of his advice. He’s right that diseases offer a special risk to vulnerable patients, and he may even be right that unvaccinated children offer a slightly higher risk of getting sick,* but he’s wrong in the rest of it.

    * Parents who choose against vaccinations after doing the research (as opposed to parents who choose not to vaccinate in order to save money or they are too lazy to bring their kid in) are probably the most careful, diligent parents in his practice. They are also probably more likely to be homeschooling families with a stay-at-home mom. Which means–ta da–their children are also less likely to be exposed in the places where children are most at risk, for instance day-care centers. RSV (considered a “day-care disease” last I heard, though obviously other children can get it) is a threat to vulnerable children, too. Children raised by careful, diligent parents are also more likely to be fed nutritious meals, given lessons in proper hygiene, etc. And of course vaccinations themselves carry at least some risks. So it’s worth asking whether the unvaccinated children present, on average, any greater risk. But answering that question would require a study, and one that wouldn’t receive funding from the usual sources. My money is on the daycare kids being far and away the greater health threat to the doctor’s vulnerable patients, even though the daycare children are of course all properly and efficiently vaccinated.

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  15. Kizzie, please don’t feel terrible about sharing that pediatrician’s thoughts. That was a small drop in the bucket of what I was upset about.

    I pray I don’t come across as harsh when I say this, but a couple of comments on that thread, by people I know and love (and who I believe love me, too) impacted me much more deeply:

    “Cheryl, on your final question from yesterday [regarding the vaccination discussion], I don’t know, and, frankly, I don’t care.”

    I know that comment wasn’t directed to me, but as a mother who loves her children fiercely, and who has at times (not currently, but in the past) been in the “anti-vaccers” camp, after much study and prayer, those words hurt. Cheryl voiced many of the concerns I have had, though I had not discussed them with her, and to read a response to her from a medical professional who says, “[F]rankly, I don’t care” shook me to the core.

    The other comment that hurt was this:

    “I have no patience with the anti-vaccers.”

    As I said above, and in my post last night, I was once one of those. It was not a decision I made lightly. Not a decision made without prayer. Not a decision made because I care only about my own children and don’t give a rip about anyone else.

    You have no patience with people who, some of them with great care and deliberation, and even prayer come to a different conclusion than you?

    How many of those people have you sat down with, face-to-face, and asked why they are currently not vaccinating? Do you ever see pain in their eyes, hear their voices cracking?

    A lot of us moms, no matter what our walk of life or our position on the vaccination spectrum, are just doing the best we can with the information we’ve got.

    There was one doctor we had a number of years ago, when our youngest child was born, who would frequently tell me, in response to some of the questions I asked at well-child visits, “We [the medical profession] used to think ___________ [was the case], but now we know that ________________ [the opposite, or something different] is true.”

    That is important to remember — the human body is complex, and we don’t have all the answers. The “conventional wisdom” sometimes gets turned on its head, and it’s discovered that some medical practices have, in retrospect, turned out to be harmful.

    The parents who are praying for wisdom, and who may end up making different medical choices than others, are not the enemy. We deserve, IMHO, as much patience as anyone else when we deliberate our choices.

    I want to end by quoting one part of an email I sent to Cheryl today. This may help give some perspective on why I was so sensitive:

    The conversation was hard because this week the son I referenced in my post turns 15. All the old pain comes washing back around his birthday every year. He is nowhere near the level most youth of that age are. We will never get back the child we had before he descended into the abyss that started after beginning his shots. However, it has been over 10 years now since his last vaccination, and the farther he gets from that horrific series of shots he had in his toddler/preschool years, the more he heals. But my and my husband’s decision to resume vaccinating (we did for a while with the first two, then not at all when the third and fourth were infants/toddlers/preschoolers) came with a heavy price for our fifth child–one that will have lifelong ramifications for him. Not to mention how difficult it is for siblings of a child with disabilities, and how much strain it puts on a marriage when raising a child with challenges.

    [Some] will never understand how much grief is involved for a parent who made a deliberate decision to vaccinate and ended up with an injured child. There are so many things I want to say…but my emotions are too raw to do it.

    I sent that email around noon today, and am less raw tonight. Thank you, Cheryl, for helping me to process my grief.

    I am stepping away from the blog now until after District Auditions (on March 23rd) are done. Thank you for taking time to read what I’ve written in this post, if you’ve gotten to this last line.

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