39 thoughts on “News/Politics 5-25-18

  1. Now this is interesting, and it’s such a no-brainer that I’m shocked it’s not already being done. If we really think we are in danger of being hacked by Russia or China, we should consider the software we are using—and just who has access to it.

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. tech companies would be forced to disclose if they allowed American adversaries, like Russia and China, to examine the inner workings of software sold to the U.S. military under proposed legislation, Senate staff told Reuters on Thursday.

    The bill, approved by the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday, comes after a year-long Reuters investigation found software makers allowed a Russian defense agency to hunt for vulnerabilities in software that was already deeply embedded in some of the most sensitive parts of the U.S. government, including the Pentagon, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and intelligence agencies.

    The new source code disclosure rules were included in Senate version of the National Defense Authorization Act, the Pentagon’s spending bill, according to staffers of Democratic Senator Jeanne Shaheen.

    Security experts say allowing Russian authorities to conduct the reviews of internal software instructions — known as source code — could help Russia find vulnerabilities and more easily attack key systems that protect the United States. ….

    …If passed into law, the legislation would require companies that do business with the U.S. military to disclose any source code review of the software done by adversaries, staffers for Shaheen told Reuters. If the Pentagon deems a source code review a risk, military officials and the software company would need to agree on how to contain the threat. It could, for example, involve limiting the software’s use to non-classified settings.

    The details of the foreign source code reviews, and any steps the company agreed to take to reduce the risks, would be stored in a database accessible to military officials, Shaheen’s staffers said. For most products, the military notification will only apply to countries determined to be cybersecurity threats, such as Russia and China.

    Shaheen has been a key voice on cybersecurity in Congress. The New Hampshire senator last year led successful efforts in Congress to ban all government use of software provided by Moscow-based antivirus firm Kaspersky Lab, amid allegations the company is linked to Russian intelligence. Kaspersky denies such links

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-legislation-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-bill-would-force-tech-companies-to-disclose-foreign-software-probes-idUSKCN1IP3O3

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  2. It looks like the Nobel Peace Prize may slip away from Trump, but a trade war with China is a little more possible now than it was last week.

    BEIJING (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump’s cancellation of a summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un threatens further strain on U.S.-China ties amid a trade dispute that had been intertwined with Beijing’s pressure on isolated Pyongyang.

    The United States and China are also increasingly at odds in the disputed South China Sea. The Pentagon this week withdrew an invitation for China to take part in a major naval exercise in Hawaii, and Beijing has ramped up pressure on self-ruled Taiwan, armed by Washington but claimed by Beijing.

    Trump on Thursday released a letter to Kim announcing his withdrawal from the planned June 12 meeting in Singapore, which would have been the first between leaders of the two countries.

    Although Chinese state media called for continued engagement between Washington and Pyongyang, Trump’s move could mark a split between China and the United States over how to deal with North Korea and its nuclear weapons, experts said.

    It also risks adding fuel to simmering trade tensions, just days after China and the United States pulled back from the brink of a full-blown trade war. …

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-usa-analysi/collapse-of-trump-kim-summit-threatens-to-deepen-u-s-china-rift-idUSKCN1IQ0Z4

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  3. Debra, Don’t give up on the Nobel Prize just yet. There is still time for Trump and Kim to kiss and make up.

    David Brooks made some good points today though I resent his slap at John Wayne Westerns.

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  4. Do I know your man or what?

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  5. This is how you get our southern neighbors to enforce borders. Make it hurt if they don’t.

    Lookin’ at you Mexico, Honduras, etc….. clean up your act, or lose the dollars you desperately need.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/trump-to-cut-foreign-aid-for-countries-that-send-illegal-immigrants

    “President Trump announced Wednesday that the U.S. will begin to deduct foreign aid from countries whose residents illegally enter the United States.

    “Many of these countries we give tremendous amounts of aid to. Tens of millions of dollars. And we’re working on a plan to deduct a lot of the aid,” Trump said at an event in New York denouncing the Salvadoran gang MS-13.

    “We’re going to work out something where every time someone comes in from a certain country, we’re going to deduct a rather large amount of money from what we give them in aid, if we give them aid at all,” Trump said. “We may just not give them aid at all.”

    Trump did not specify which countries would be targeted, but spoke after another panelist mentioned foreign countries refusing to accept deportees.

    “They’ll let you think they’re trying to stop this. They are not trying to stop it,” Trump said. “I think they encourage people… They don’t want the people that we’re getting.”

    “Despite all of the reports I hear, I don’t believe they’re helping us one bit. and it may be that’s the way life is,” he said. “We know where these people are coming from. We’re looking at our whole aid structure and it’s going to be changed very radically. It’s already started.”

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  6. The EU’s new GDPR rules don’t seem popular.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-websites-go-dark-in-europe-as-gdpr-data-rules-kick-in-1527242038

    “Europe’s new privacy law took effect Friday, causing major U.S. news websites to suspend access across the region as data-protection regulators prepare to brandish their new enforcement powers.

    Tronc Inc., publisher of the Los Angeles Times, New York Daily News and other U.S. newspapers, was among those that blocked readers in the European Union from accessing sites, as they scrambled to comply with the sweeping regulation.

    “We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market,” the company said in notices it displayed when users attempted to access its news sites from the EU on Friday morning.

    Others U.S. regional newspapers owned by Lee Enterprises Inc., as well as bookmarking app Instapaper, owned by Pinterest. Inc., were also blocking access in the EU.

    The EU’s General Data Protection Regulation foresees steep fines for companies that don’t comply with the new rules, aimed at giving Europe-based users more control over the data companies hold on them.”
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    https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2018/05/25/blocking-500-million-users-is-easier-than-complying-with-gdpr#gs.3w_eFcU

    ” For some of America’s biggest newspapers and online services, it’s easier to block half a billion people from accessing your product than comply with Europe’s new General Data Protection Regulation.

    The Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, and The New York Daily News are just some telling visitors that, “Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries.”

    With about 500 million people living in the European Union, that’s a hard ban on one-and-a-half times the population of the U.S.

    Blanket blocking EU internet connections — which will include any U.S. citizens visiting Europe — isn’t limited to newspapers. Popular read-it-later service Instapaper says on its website that it’s “temporarily unavailable for residents in Europe as we continue to make changes in light of the General Data Protection Regulation.”

    A&E Television Networks has narrowed its EU blockade to limit the damage to its audience. Websites for its History and Lifetime channels greet the European visitors with a message that its “content is not available in your area,” whereas the website for youth-focused Viceland remains accessible.

    “Denying service to EU citizens does not absolve them of their responsibilities,” says Julian Saunders, chief executive officer of Port, a U.K. startup selling software that helps clients control who gets access to data and creates audit trails to monitor privacy. “They still hold data on EU citizens and therefore they are required to comply and respond to subject access requests like everyone else.”
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  7. More…..

    https://www.fastcompany.com/40577794/google-and-facebook-are-already-accused-of-breaking-gdpr-laws

    “Google and Facebook are already accused of breaking GDPR laws

    “Both companies are engaging in “forced consent” according to privacy group noyb.eu. Forced consent is a “take it or leave it approach” where a company requires that users opt into data terms it sets or blocks them from accessing their service entirely. In a brief outlining their complaint, noyb.eu says:

    The new General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which came into force today at midnight, is supposed to give users a free choice, whether they agree to data usage or not. The opposite feeling spread on the screens of many users: tons of “consent boxes” popped up online or in applications, often combined with a threat, that the service cannot longer be used if user do[es] not consent. One the first day of GDPR noyb.eu has therefor[e] file[ed] four complaints against Google (Android), Facebook, WhatsApp, and Instagram over “forced consent.”

    “Facebook has even blocked accounts of users who have not given consent. In the end, users only had the choice to delete the account or hit the “agree” button–that’s not a free choice, it more reminds of a North Korean election process,” Max Schrems, the chair of noyb.eu, said.”
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    Someone is acting like a dictator, but in this case it’s the EU.
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    http://thehill.com/policy/technology/389284-tech-companies-scramble-as-sweeping-data-rules-take-effect

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  8. This has been the major topic of discussion among writers I hang out with–how to comply, what to worry about, what to do.

    I didn’t realize I needed a privacy policy on my website, it’s now there. I’ll write to just my known EU mail list readers probably today and that will have to reopt in to receive my newsletter. Since I’m small potatoes, I’m going to take a risk that the email addresses I have that don’t report a country or ISP are probably US.

    One of the podcasts I listened to pointed out, like Ricky did, that I’m not subject to EU laws so I don’t really need to worry about it. I don’t make any money off my mailing list.

    But, Thomas Umstadtt, Jr, surmised, Europe will go for big guns like FB, Google, or something else with deep pockets to sue first and set a precedent. But they will be corporate entities with an office in the EU.

    A lot of what they’re asking is reasonable–in terms of allowing double opt-in and the ability to get your information scrubbed. I can’t control the third parties who plant cookies and look at what people provide on my website. So, I state a privacy policy–I’m not doing anything with the information beyond sending a newsletter once a month.

    But others do a lot, lot more. Ads are the major source of revenue and the ability to construct a pointed ad that might sell you something is normally based on hard data. (Clue Stargazer’s hoped for line of work). That’s why so many people collect the information.

    Since I’m such a small drop in this enormous ocean, I’ll send out my handful of “please re-op-in” emails next week when the hoopla dies down. I’m not sending a newsletter until the middle of June anyway.

    Interesting, though, these large companies suspect trouble brewing and it’s easier to shut off a lot of people than run the risk.

    We live in such odd times.

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  9. Let me explain how this would play out for Republicans who maybe think this is a good idea.

    You primary the president. Your candidate is now the R nominee.

    Great news, right?

    Wrong. You just lost all the Trump voters due to your backstabbing disloyalty (Again- Loyalty Pledge anyone?) and a Dem wins the WH. There goes tax reform and every other gain made.

    Is that really what you want? If it is, why not just vote Democrat and be honest about the fact that you’re traitors at least?

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/henrygomez/bill-kristol-president-trump-challenger?utm_term=.jwWOB7a5J#.ibOyJrOMe

    “Bill Kristol has not given up on defeating Donald Trump.

    He tried and failed once before to recruit an independent candidate to challenge Trump in 2016. Now, with 2020 on his mind, Kristol badly wants a Republican to primary the president. The conservative commentator has been traveling to Iowa and New Hampshire, running a campaign for a campaign, and evangelizing on behalf of a cause that’s less about policy and more, to him, about morals.

    “I have a feeling,” Kristol said Wednesday at Politics & Eggs, a can’t-miss speaking engagement for White House prospects at Saint Anselm College, “that we are now entering … a turbulent era, when the character of both parties is up for grabs.”

    He’s quick to note that challenges to sitting presidents had big consequences in other turbulent periods: In 1968, Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy chased then-president Lyndon Johnson from the race at the height of anti–Vietnam War sentiment; in 1976, Ronald Reagan nearly beat then-president Gerald Ford, a preview of the conservative Reagan Revolution to come; and in 1980, Ted Kennedy challenged then-president Jimmy Carter and helped define the liberal direction of the Democratic Party.

    And so, armed with this history and fresh polling (Morning Consult and Politico found 38% of Republican voters want Trump to face a primary challenge), Kristol made his case this week to dozens of influential New Hampshire activists during a breakfast buffet beneath blown-up photos of past presidential candidates campaigning in the nation’s first primary state.

    Many Republicans who voted for Trump in the general election last time around did so, Kristol asserts, out of concern over Supreme Court appointments and because they hated Hillary Clinton more.

    “It is possible,” Kristol told the audience, “to say, ‘Yeah, I approve of Trump — maybe not strongly, but somewhat — but I’d also like to have a choice … in 2020 that’s different from Trump.’ You don’t have to be a Never Trumper to not be on board for eight years of Trump.”
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    No, you could be a Never-Trumper, or a Democrat.

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  10. Kristoll gives himself away by posing with milquetoast Kasich, a Democrats favorite Republican, next to John McCain, of course. Like I said, just be honest and vote Dem.

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  11. Michelle,

    That was my thought. How on Earth does the EU think they can enforce this in other countries? Good luck with that.

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  12. DJ lives in the State of Denial. Richard Brookhiser has chosen to live in the 18th Century.

    Travis and I tried throwing a stone across the Rappahanock up river at Kelly’s Ford during a dry year. Washington was a fine athlete.

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  13. Ricky @8:20 Brooks did have an interesting statement: “We’re in the middle of some vast historical transition, and it’s very hard to know what to believe in.” This is what happens when many otherwise intelligent people have put their faith in frail ideologies. Treating free trade, or even capitalism itself, as though it were as settled and predictable and as irrespective of cultural and national boundaries as the law of gravity, will always leave one reeling with confusion and uncertainty when it fails. And it is inevitable that it will.

    It is easy to just say people are stupid, but that is too simplistic and will do nothing to move us toward productive solutions. And it does nothing at all for that sense of unreality of which Brooks is so conscious. Many people have lived for years with that sense of unreality regarding the national dialogue on politics and economy and the steady erosion of our national sovereignty. And social conservative people have felt powerless in the face of the dramatic loss of simple social norms such as the widespread questioning of what it means to be male or female. So, Mr. Brooks and company, welcome to the real world. We’ve been waiting for you.

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  14. AJ @9:22 “Wrong. You just lost all the Trump voters due to your backstabbing disloyalty (Again- Loyalty Pledge anyone?) and a Dem wins the WH.”

    I think many of them prefer to have a Dem rather than Trump. Either because they are closer ideologically to Dems or because they think the country will go so far to the freaky left that people will be scared into voting Republican next time regardless of who they run. And many of them are well capitalized so they can easily ride out any financial hiccups that would crush most middle class working people who may already be living on the edge.

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  15. Yesterday, there was a link shared that claimed that one could live on the minimum wage and not be poor. I would be interested to know how that can be, to see some breakdown of living costs and such.

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  16. I was skimming the article, and one it linked to, for that kind of info. Maybe I skimmed too fast or quit before I came to it. One thing that was proposed was that it isn’t too much to ask for a single mom to work 55 hours a week at minimum wage.

    So that’s 11 hours a day for a five-day workweek, which doesn’t include travel time. She would have to be able to find a daycare that would keep her children for about 12 hours a day (or before and after school), and then actually be able to afford that daycare. Is that even possible?

    Even a two-parent family would have to have their kids in daycare, which is very expensive.

    So I am skeptical that a single parent or a family could live on minimum wage and not be poor, but I am open to reading any breakdown that could prove it.

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  17. I didn’t look at the article, but, like you, Kizzie, I was skeptical of that claim, too. And how do they define “single mom with kids”? How many kids? The standard 2.1 or 1.8 or whatever it is now?

    I was once the mother of six minor children. Half of them are adults now, but when our fifth and sixth children were born, our only income was my husband’s, and his wage was probably twice the minimum wage at that time. We would have qualified for reduced-price or free lunches at various times during our childbearing years had we sent our kids to public school, even with my husband usually working 55-60 hours a week at that time.

    How could an income half of that not be considered poor?

    One thing that was proposed was that it isn’t too much to ask for a single mom to work 55 hours a week at minimum wage.

    How many people are willing to hire anyone for 55 hours a week anymore? Hours are getting cut all over the place to avoid having to pay benefits. A lot of people would have to have at least two, sometimes more jobs to get that many hours in a week. More job sites to go to increases commute time, and possibly daycare hours.

    Plus, some daycares charge clients for the service whether you bring your kid every day or not. So you might have a day off from your work (i.e. you don’t get paid), but you’re still paying for daycare, even if you decide you want to spend your day off with your kids.

    Color me skeptical about the whole business. I have a feeling that article was written by someone who doesn’t understand what it’s like to struggle financially, even while being a diligent worker.

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  18. Sure…. accidentally…. coulda happened to anyone…. 🙄

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/24/washington-dc-capitol-police-evidence-house-hacking-suspect-attorney/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site-share#pq=ukdP1y

    “Capitol Police Accidentally Gave Evidence To House Hacking Suspect’s Defense Attorney

    The House IG said Democratic IT aides made unauthorized access to data, but prosecutors haven’t charged them

    Democrats appear to want to keep the case out of court; a trial could expose their reckless IT practices

    Capitol Police didn’t make arrests despite numerous red flags and then ‘inadvertently’ gave evidence to defense attorneys that was supposed to go to prosecutors

    Prosecutors appear to be sharing info with someone on Capitol Hill who is leaking details to the hacking suspect’s lawyer”

    The Capitol Police turned over a trove of evidence in the alleged Imran Awan House cyberbreach and theft case to the defense attorneys when they were supposed to deliver it to prosecutors instead, according to court documents and a source.”

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  19. AJ, thanks much for those GDPR articles. I’m still in the process of figuring out what, if anything, the regulations mean to me. I did not, as I contemplated, delete my whole website the other night, LOL. A friend who believes there isn’t much or anything in those regs that apply to me sort of talked me off the ledge. 😉

    But these articles are helpful, because even though I’m, to borrow Michelle’s term and adapt it even more to my situation — smaller potatoes than she is — they could have future implications if I decided to say, implement Skype lessons, or sell my written piano compositions via my website.

    I don’t have a privacy policy statement yet on my site, but none of my European traffic has commented on my blog on the site — yet — though one Frenchman contacted me several months ago by the email I list on my site.

    I don’t know how I’ll proceed, but thanks again for the links, and I’ll keep an eye on how this unfolds.

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  20. Michelle, do you know if there’s a way to get a privacy policy drawn up and published on one’s site without cost?

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  21. Kizzie and 6.

    Here it is.

    http://www.goodmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/BA-124-Reforming-Welfare-2018.pdf

    And this is the people who put it out.

    http://www.goodmaninstitute.org/

    Like I said, I found the Federalist link interesting, but I didn’t read the whole pdf of the study in the first link above. I don’t know much about the group putting it out either, other than that they are a libertarian leaning group. Your milage may vary. 🙂

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  22. Thanks, AJ. I was looking at that last night, as it was linked in the Federalist article.

    It gives the numbers for how much families could make, including with the Earned Income Credit, and points out that it brings them to above the poverty level. But it doesn’t take a look at where the dollars go in a family, such as the daycare both 6 Arrows and I mentioned.

    I do know that some families, being particularly frugal, could make it. But there are others who would struggle mightily, depending on where they live and their family situation.

    I say this not as some kind of push for more welfare, or in favor of a much higher minimum wage, but merely in reference to the idea that they would not be poor. To me, it sounds dismissive of the struggles that many families have, even those making more than minimum wage.

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  23. Another matter is that many or most minimum wage jobs include weekend days. So a family (single mom or two parents) would be paying for daycare for the workweek, even their days off, as 6 mentioned, and then need to find a babysitter for the weekend hours. I recently read that, in our area, it is common for babysitters to charge $10 an hour, just 10 cents below Connecticut’s minimum wage.

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  24. Thanks for the link, AJ (and for the one from the Federalist yesterday, which I read after your Goodman Institute link just now). I hadn’t stopped to think about the Earned Income Credit or the Child Tax Credit.

    Kizzie and I are thinking along the same lines. I, too, was thinking, but didn’t write, exactly what she said above about weekend work. It’s possible you might need two different childcare arrangements, one for the weekdays (which you may have to pay for in a lump sum, regardless of the number of days you take your kid(s) there), and another for the weekends. If, like Kizzie says, the childcare provider collects close to the minimum wage, and the working parent earns minimum wage and has to pay for transportation, possible uniform costs, and other costs associated with having a job, where’s the net gain? There may be a loss after all associated costs are factored in.

    So while, yes, on paper it works out that two married, full-time workers with children would never be below the poverty level, even with minimum-wage jobs, the realities of daily life — the cost of living, for example, in coastal cities versus some rural places in the interior; or the decision to forgo one full-time income in a two-parent family so the children benefit from a full-time at-home parent — statistics don’t tell the whole story.

    I had to cringe when I read a quote (in the Goodman Institute article) referencing overweight people:

    Steven Pinker writes:7

    Today, the poor are as likely to be overweight
    as their employers…

    The impression I get from a statement like that is that the speaker is saying something like, “Well, the ‘poor’ can’t be that poor if they’re as heavy as their employers. They must be getting enough food to eat if they look like that.”

    Obesity isn’t always a sign that people are eating too much. In fact, often the cheapest foods are the ones that wreak the most havoc on the body, in terms of weight gain and other effects. Eating a wide variety of healthy foods is expensive. Why not have a bag of Cheetos for lunch every day instead of serving a sandwich with a healthy protein filler, a piece of fruit, a green vegetable and a yellow vegetable to each family member when the former is so much cheaper?

    And even if they’d prefer the former, what happens when the paycheck money is almost out, and there are still eight days to go before the next paycheck?

    It’s probably Cheetos or other junk that semi-fill up a person most of the rest of those days.

    To be sure, there are some cheap, healthy foods — dried beans, for one, though some people’s digestion can’t tolerate much or any of those — but not enough to provide variety in one’s diet.

    Which eventually can lead to poor health and the associated financial implications with having to medically treat problems that arose due to poor diet.

    It’s a catch-22 for those with very little disposable income — you try to save money and eat cheaply, but it comes back to bite you in the backside, in increased medical costs due to poor health that may have resulted from your cost-cutting measures in the food department.

    But, anyway, I thought it was unfair to mention overweight employees in the context of a discussion on the working poor.

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  25. I agree, though, that we don’t want to encourage laziness — getting welfare without making any effort to find work, for example. But there are many families I know who are nearly as large as or are larger than my own family who also only have one full-time worker and do not go on welfare or any kind of assistance.

    Families who are not as financially comfortable at others are not necessarily lazy, and even though there are certainly lazy folks, it’s helpful if writers of these types of article do acknowledge that there are diligent workers among those skirting the poverty level who aren’t looking for the government to take care of them.

    Income and work ethic are two distinct entities.

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  26. “And even if they’d prefer the former…” (which I wrote in my 4;37), should read “And even if they’d prefer the latter…” Meaning, even if they’d prefer to eat the healthy alternative, it may be too expensive for them to do so.

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  27. Well, well, well……..

    Like I’ve been saying, traitors.

    And who’s neck deep in it? Why it’s Mr. Deep In Debt himself, Ricky’s favorite actual cult member, Evan McMullin.

    Your boy has just been exposed as a Dem operative Ricky, along with a bunch of other Never-Trumpers. You have to give Dems credit, they know useful idiots when they see them….

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/05/collusion-never-trump-republicans-coordinate-electoral-efforts-with-democrats/

    “Ken Vogel at The New York Times has revealed that #NeverTrump Republicans and Democrat operatives have sided with each other as a way to “neutralize” President Donald Trump. Vogel wrote:

    In the past year, however, influential liberal donors and operatives have gone from cheering these so-called Never Trump Republicans to quietly working with — and even funding — them. Through invitation-only emails and private, off-the-record meetings, they have formed a loose network of cross-partisan alliances aimed at helping neutralize President Trump, and preventing others from capitalizing on weaknesses in the political system that they say he has exploited.

    While this network has mostly eschewed electoral politics, some involved see the potential for it to help form an ideological — and possibly financial — platform to back candidates, including a centrist challenge to Mr. Trump in 2020, possibly from within the G.O.P. or even a third party.

    The network — composed of overlapping groups led by Democrats such as the donor Rachel Pritzker and several veteran Obama administration operatives, as well as leading Never Trump Republicans like Evan McMullin, Mindy Finn and William Kristol — aims to chart a middle path between a Republican base falling in line behind Mr. Trump and a liberal resistance trying to pull the Democratic Party left.”

    Jerry Taylor, president of the moderate think-tank Niskanen Center and a Republican, said that if any Republican has concerns about Trump “there’s no reason you shouldn’t be willing to work with a Democrat who is equally concerned about these same matters.”

    The Niskanen Center has meetings attended by the well-known #NeverTrump Republicans along with some Democrats like Ian Bassin, a lawyer who worked in Obama’s White House. Bassin founded Protect Democracy, a watchdog group, and “has sued the Trump administration and that has brought on staff members and advisers — including Mr. Taylor — from conservative or Republican backgrounds.”

    Former Oklahoma Republican Rep. Mickey Edwards also attends the meetings and has joined those “cross-partisan coalitions” against Trump, “including working with the former Obama administration lawyers Neal Katyal and Joshua Geltzer to file a legal brief in March in a court case opposing Mr. Trump’s proposed restrictions on travel from predominantly Muslim countries.”

    These donors and operatives from both sides have a group called Patriots and Pragmatists and they believe they’ll have their largest meeting in San Francisco soon:”
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    “Big time donor William Budinger has gone over to Patriots and Pragmatists. He once sat on the board of Democracy Alliance “and representatives of deep-pocketed grant-writing foundations like Pierre Omidyar’s Democracy Fund and Democracy Fund Voice, and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation’s Madison Initiative.”

    Plus, groups founded by McMullin and Finn like Stand Up Republic and Stand Up Ideas “have received a total of as much as $1.3 million from the Democracy Fund groups and the Madison Initiative.” Protect Democracy and Protect Democracy Project (founded by Bassin) also received money up to $500K “from those grant-writing foundations.””
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    All pro-Obama groups.

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  28. And when you have time Ricky, perhaps you can answer the question below. You seem frequently shocked that any Christian could vote for Trump. So maybe you could explain how it is climbing in bed with these people is somehow a better choice?

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    “Here’s the thing. WHAT ON EARTH could these people have in common other than their hatred for Trump? Does it bother anyone that these supposed conservatives, who should hold ideas of limited government and fiscal responsibility, have sided with Democrats? You know, the party that booed God, has no problem with murdering unborn human beings, and wants the government involved in every detail of our life?”

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    Also on the traitor list?

    Your buddies Kristol and Rubin And of course, Kasich.

    Nice to see their agenda exposed. They have seriously undermined their credibility here.

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  29. I sided with a conservative French Bulldog, not a Socialist Democrat nor a con man/sexual predator Republican. Hillary was for legalized abortion. Her longtime contributor Trump encouraged wife #2 to abort child #4.

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  31. Yes. @ 6:52 and at 6:58. The old Trump Cult favors the indicted Russian companies over Mr. Mueller. That is about as traitorous as you can get.

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  32. This is fairly impressive. When a criminal shot a woman and her daughter in an Oklahoma City restaurant, two separate Okies opened fire and shot the criminal dead.

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