23 thoughts on “News/Politics 11-30-16

  1. Meanwhile, fighting over the real issues that matter, are taking place behind the scenes, and not on Twitter.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/28/gop-expected-to-defund-planned-parenthood-next-year/

    “Even as the long-game to overturn Roe v. Wade continues through pro-life appointments to the Supreme Court, the GOP is expected to make a push to defund Planned Parenthood next year. Politico reports it’s a matter of when, not if:

    “The entire movement is poised for a victory,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, an advocacy group that opposes abortion. “We have every assurance [from congressional leaders] that it’s going to happen. Nobody is saying ‘whether,’ the question is ‘when.’”…

    Eliminating Planned Parenthood’s approximately $550 million in federal funding — most of it through Medicaid — would be abortion opponent’s most tangible victory since 2007, when the Supreme Court upheld a ban on so-called partial birth abortions.”
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    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/29/coming-soon-new-state-level-regulations-of-abortion/

    “I’ve written about national efforts which the GOP is expected to take against Planned Parenthood and even some which could eventually threaten Roe v. Wade itself, but pro-life efforts won’t end at the national level. As Fox News reported last week, the GOP also had a historic election night at the state level:

    Republicans increased their control in state legislatures leaving Democrats with their lowest level since the Civil War.

    Beating pollsters’ odds, the GOP picked up five state House chambers and two state Senate on November 8.

    “Republicans certainly bested expectations on the national level and that holds true for the states where they are likely to come out ahead by 30 to 40 seats,” Dan Diorio, a policy specialist at the National Conference of State Legislatures, told FoxNews.com.

    Republicans increased their majority of governorships to 33 from 31 — their highest level since 1992.
    And that, in addition to Trump’s victory, has pro-abortion Democrats nervous and pro-life groups getting ready for a busy year. From the Hill:

    “It’s definitely going to be a busy session,” said Ingrid Duran, director of state legislation for the National Right to Life Committee. “Right now is the time that our affiliates are shaping their legislative agendas and what they’d like to see passed.”

    Fourteen states have already banned abortions that occur after 20 weeks. Six more have banned abortions by dismemberment.
    In addition to bans on late-term abortions several states will also be using regulatory action to tighten the rules for abortion clinics even as legislation makes its way through GOP held state houses:”
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  2. What did he say he was going to do?
    This from Drudge:

    From the earliest days of his campaign, Donald J. Trump made keeping manufacturing jobs in the United States his signature economic issue, and the decision by Carrier, the big air-conditioner company, to move over 2,000 of them from Indiana to Mexico was a tailor-made talking point for him on the stump.

    On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice president-elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis factory to announce a deal with the company to keep roughly 1,000 jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

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  3. I don’t see overturning Roe as a viable objective. I’m not even sure it’s a good idea. My priority would be to totally de-fund PP, starting with the federal, state, and local governments and then chipping away at corporate supporters. Other than that, abortion is a moral issue, about which we can educate but which we cannot legislate.

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  4. Thank you Linda. That has long been my thought but I have difficulty in expressing it. I really believe medical advancements with babies being viable earlier and earlier will end a lot of abortions. I also think if you just suddenly make it illegal you end the ability to discuss it. I was once upon a time very pro-choice. I would rather have the opportunity to try to talk someone out of it.

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  5. I also believe now that abortion has been a legal option for so long, limiting the practice (banning government-taxpayer funding, making sure late-term abortions are not acceptable) and education are the most practical ways to go.

    Legal abortion via the Roe v Wade decision: That ship has sailed, unfortunately. The ruling was (and remains) a reflection of the moral shift among the people and I highly doubt it can or ever be reversed unless it comes from the bottom up (and I don’t see that happening real soon).

    The nation is slowly moving toward a more libertarian view of social issues, whether it’s legalization of marijuana (and other drugs eventually?), abortion, gay marriage, etc.

    Once morality is disconnected from strongly held religious values, a libertarian approach becomes much more acceptable even to conservatives. (Of course, liberals, as usual, push it too far and demand a full acceptance and embrace, attempting to silence other views on those matters — but that’s another post … 🙂 )

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  6. I’d say most legislation is about morality — what is/should be lawful, unlawful, good v bad, in the eyes of a particular society.

    So you can’t (or you’d have a hard time doing so) legislate a moral issue on which the majority of people being governed disagree.

    As our society has become more and more divorced from its religious roots in the past several generations, our collective morality has changed. Government & court rulings reflect that change.

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  7. That’s why I’ve said libertarianism (lower case ‘l’, a ‘live-and-let-live’ approach) with regard to sexual or other kinds of personal behavior, including gay marriage, is probably the best that religious conservatives can hope for in a society that has put aside religious values as a basis for a good society.

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  8. But love still changes things in a culture and a society. It is interesting to me that some of the very vocal politically correct types seem to grasp that truth conceptually, but they’re mostly unable to express it. choosing instead to scream and destroy things while displaying placards reviling ‘hate’.

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  9. Yes, although I’d still argue that a virtuous society will be reflected in a virtuous government that, in turn, blesses its citizens.

    Alas, that is not the society we presently live in (though the founders were rooted in those Judeo-Christian values that was reflected in the citizenry — for the most part).

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  10. The difficult part will be restraining the left (irony) from trying to impose its views of morality on the rest of us through new civil laws governing everything from which bathrooms we can or can’t have or use to tax levies to fund transgender operations. 🙂

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  11. Yes. And if it will just stop there before it implodes, we can consider ourselves fortunate. But at this point, all they’re succeeding in doing is making The Donald’s twitter account less noxious by the comparison. It’s a sad state of affairs when you’re left wondering just who will ‘implode’ first. 🙂

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  12. I really don’t care if someone is compelled to change their sex but I don’t want to pay for it and I am mean enough that I don’t want subsidized insurance to pay for it because they won’t pay for MY cosmetic surgery. I am quite happy being female, but I WANT A TUMMY TUCK AND I WANT IT NOW!!!! (I have also wanted one for the last 15 years but I haven’t gotten it yet.)

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  13. The country has moved more towards a pro-life stand than at any time since abortion has been made legal. We legislate morality all the time. Do people still break the law? Sure. Parents kill their children. Children kill their parents and so on and so on. We don’t just ignore it and say we cannot legislate it. I do agree it is difficult to legislate what a large portion of the country wants. Prohibition taught us that.

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  14. Debra at 1:43

    “And so ends the Republican stranglehold on Christians.”

    You may be glad the “strangle hold”is over, but I don’t First,I don’t agree with much they say they are for. Second they are liars. Third, they are cheats.

    Republicans are the Stupid Party.

    Democrats are the Evil Party.

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  15. Oops!
    They meaning Democrats.
    “I don’t agree with much they say they are for. Second they are liars. Third, they are cheats.”

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  16. Bob,
    I don’t think it’s as simple as Republicans are good or Democrats are bad. They’re both a mixed bag. People need to think through the priorities that are important to them, and vote accordingly. There is rarely a candidate who meets all my criteria. But Trump came close; that’s why I supported him. But if the GOP had given us another establishment candidate, I probably would not have voted at all…..Or I might have done a write-in protest vote for Arnold Weaver. :–)

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