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Our Daily Thread 9-15-14

Good Morning!

I didn’t even see the second bird in the frame when I took this photo.

On this day in 1776 British forces occupied New York City during the American Revolution. 

In 1857 Timothy Alder earned a patent for the typesetting machine. 

In 1883 the University of Texas at Austin opened. 

In 1916 during the Battle of the Somme, in France, tanks were first used in warfare when the British rolled them onto the battlefields. 

In 1928 Alexander Fleming discovered the antibiotic penicillin in the mold Penicillium notatum.

In 1935 the Nuremberg Laws were enacted by Nazi Germany. The act stripped all German Jews of their civil rights and the swastika was made the official symbol of Nazi Germany. 

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Quote of the Day

“Where large sums of money are concerned, it is advisable to trust nobody.”

Agatha Christie

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 Today is Bruno Walter’s birthday. So it’s Bruno, conducting Mozart.

And it’s Roy Acuff’s too. So it’s Roy, Hank, and  some Carters.

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Anyone have a QoD?

78 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 9-15-14”

  1. From Karen’s 8:45 last night:
    “But it’s true that Jesus had literally nothing to say on the subject of gay marriage.”

    That is true, neither did Mohammed, nor Socrates, nor Plato, nor Moses, nor Buddah, nor Luther, nor anyone else in the world.
    Marriage between two people of the same sex is a Satanic construct of the 20th-21st centuries. It never entered into the mind of anyone on earth. No civilization at no time in history has considered the possibility.
    The payoff for this is going to be huge. I fear for the younger generation.

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  2. After the Glory Bound Train, you get another chance to hear Hank & Anita sing “I Can’t Help it if I’m Still in Love With You”. I never tire of that.
    It isn’t just that Anita is pretty. It is that her voice is beautiful.

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  4. Good morning & evening & all around the clock face depending on your earth place.

    Bosley is snuggling and purring in my arms. She prefers resting on my left arm side which is steady as it holds the phone. Since I am right handed, my right arm is busy with cat nap distractions as I putter around the keypad.

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  6. Re: penicillin
    A few years ago I had the opportunity to do some work onsite at Pfizer. A very nice gentleman who’d worked there for years stopped by to chat. In the course of the conversation, he told me that Pfizer originally “owned” penicillin and that during WWII, because it was so useful and so needed, Pfizer didn’t feel that it was moral or patriotic to sell it to the U.S. government, so it was all given for free. After the war, to repay this favor, the government quietly gave Pfizer the land on which a military base had resided, which is where their headquarters are today. I’ve never been able to find anything, anywhere that documents or agrees with this history. Have you ever heard about this?

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  7. June always that she was funny but her sister Anita had the pipes. Anyone else struck by how tall Hank Williams was? Watching a younger Roy Acuff I remembered that my grandmother on my mother’s side had seen him perform live. I can’t remember the exact words she used but essentially she always had a “crush” on him. I think he was probably a good man. He would never stand a chance in today’s music world.

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  10. People are ignoring the fact that mumsee and I won the football thing, they don’t want to give us our prizes. Go Boise.

    I think our temperatures are supposed to start going down today, but only incrementally. I went to bed at 11 last night and my house thermostat was still at 87 degrees. It had “dropped” all the way to 80 by 5:30 a.m., 79 degrees by the time I got up at 7 (after I flipped open every window and turned all the fans on). A very restless night. And I’m afraid my fans are going to just die on me one of these days.

    I’m actually looking forward to going in to the air-conditioned office today …

    I finally caught the first hour of Saving Mr. Banks last night, I’d seen the last half of the movie a couple weeks go. Anyone here see it?

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  11. I’m almost certain that Roy Acuff was a Christian. I remember hearing him tell a joke on the Opry. I don’t remember the joke but it was about a preacher and had a line about somebody coming down to be saved. I thought it was strange that he would send that out on secular 50,000 watts. Everyone at the Ryman thought it was funny.

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  12. Having a fascinating discussion on my FB page and that of a thirty-something friend. Here’s the question (don’t bother answering if you’ve already done so on my page). I’ll tell you about the answers later. Her post repeating my question just went up this morning.

    “Genuine Question, I’m having a discussion with a young camp manager friend whom I love. If you were attending a women’s retreat or conference, would you care if the speaker was male? Why or why not?”

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  15. Personally, I don’t like women’s retreats to be speaker-dominated. Have one speaking session a day and have devotions at night, or something like that, but a round of speakers isn’t a retreat. And probably the speakers should be women. For a conference, you’re going to have a range of speakers, and I don’t care if some are men. I can think of two women’s conferences I’ve attended, and each has had (that I remember) one male speaker. I thought he might feel outnumbered by a thousand or more women, but that there was nothing inappropriate about having a male speaker.

    In fact, in Nashville the women of my denomination had a monthly luncheon for part of the year. Since it was during work hours, it was mostly attended by senior women and homeschooling moms, but my schedule often accommodated it. Some years they had women speakers, and some years they rotated among local pastors, having each deal with a different theological topic. Both were good. I actually liked it that they considered women capable of understanding and enjoying meaty theology; PCA is controversial in some circles for no women pastors, elders, or deacons; but we actually take women more seriously than other Christian circles of which I’ve been a part.

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  16. BTW, AJ, I’ve seen kingfishers at least six times now, and only half of those times have I gotten any photos at all, one of those times only bad ones (very washed out against the sky) and only last week did I get any I thought particularly good . . . so it’s a good catch to get that bird. And the green heron is a fun extra. They can be hard to get in focus against a green background, but they are very lovely birds.

    I have so far failed to catch the kingfisher in flight. It’s so lovely when it flies.

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  17. Here is a question for you.
    If your company sent out customer satisfaction surveys and one came back about how great you were during the buying or selling process would you
    1. Like to have someone stop, send out a quick email saying how wonderful you are and how happy your clients were?
    2. Wait until someone had time to set up up on a pretty template and write a paragraph or two about you then send it out?

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  19. I recommended the Glory Train song for my husband’s group. It sounds like something they would have fun with and do well. They have harmonicas, fiddle, mandolins, banjos, guitar, bass and dobro.

    The Anita Carter and Hank Williams duo was very nice, too. It is difficult to believe how short-lived Hank’s career was and yet how it has endured.

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  20. Kim, I would let it be and wait until something happens, if it does.
    Nobody ever told me I was doing a good job, except at required yearly assessments.
    But I did get promotions.
    That’s what counts.

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  21. We had a publisher some years ago who was the best when it came to making everyone feel so appreciated. He’d walk through the newsroom, stop at your desk to ask how things were going and offer encouragement. He knew us all by name and knew what we covered. What a wonderful leader he was. Nowadays those above a certain level of management where I work don’t seem to know any of us or what we do, they barely look at us when they’re around.

    But there is some good news, we’re getting 2 days’ extra pay out of some new-fangled ‘profit sharing’ plan they announced a year ago. It will happen once a year (it was supposed to be a full week’s extra pay but I guess that didn’t pan out). But after 7 years with no raises, not even tiny, token cost-of-living increases — only pay cuts that never get restored — it’s anticlimactic to say the least. And I’m grumbling again. 😦 Arrgh.

    I am grateful for my job, I still enjoy what I do and it could be oh-so-much worse. And our company is (officially now) for sale, so who knows. Maybe someone will buy us and shower us with raises. 🙂 Hope springs eternal …

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  22. Cheryl,

    The birds were pretty far away. I only noticed them when a second kingfisher right near the first took off. He disappeared so I shot the other as best I could. In the small screen, I never noticed the other guy. 🙂

    I got some more good ones this morning. A flock of cormorants (7 or 8) but they were far off. Then some herons and killdeers too.

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  23. I see Breitbart has something on our possible sale now:

    ” … The company’s best hope seems to be trying to find regional buyers.
    ‘They could decide to break up the business into different operating entities — a Rocky Mountain cluster, an East Coast cluster, and a California cluster,’ said Alan Mutter, a media consultant and former newspaper executive based in Silicon Valley who regularly blogs on print and digital media. …”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/09/13/America-s-2nd-Largest-Newspaper-Chain-Tries-for-Quick-Sale

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  28. Mumsee- as a teacher, I must remind you that you have to get all the questions correct on a test to get 100%. While you got 100% of the questions you answered correct, you technically only got 10% of the total score since you didn’t answer the other 9 questions.

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  29. I think I might know the women’s retreat having the male speaker. I wish I could attend, but have another conference to attend. The women’s retreats I attended before always had women as the main speakers. I think it generally depends on the subject and the depth of knowledge the man possesses on the subject. He may have knowledge to share that the women could not get elsewhere, so certainly he can be used by God to help move the ladies further along in their Christian walk.

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  32. What I’m finding fascinating is the discussion is splitting generationally. The older than 40 crowd think a woman’s retreat should have a woman speaker. The younger than 40 bunch are insisting they need meat not milk and men are better trained and more theologically sound.

    I’m really struggling with my tongue at the younger women’s insulting attitude–their assumption that women will be full of stories and emotion and no scriptural knowledge.

    But what do I know? I’ve only taught Bible study for 30+ years . . .

    Pardon me, I need to weep and invent some more stories, now. 🙂

    And confess my sinful attitudes as well! 🙂

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  33. Interesting, Michelle! Somehow I guess I bridge the two generations. What I said about the man speaking was only in regards to his particular high level position that would give him an overview that women would not have because the women are at lower levels in the organization. It is not a reflection on the women’s Bible knowledge or emotional appeals. I just think this person (man) would have a unique perspective to share based on his perch of oversight. I would not want men as the keynote all the time, but this seems reasonable occasionally.

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  34. Janice, we’d much rather have some of our $$ back than roses. 🙂

    This would be interesting to go to, but it’s in NY:

    Retweeted by The King’s College
    Dennis Prager ‏@DennisPrager
    I will be in Manhattan on 9/29 at @RedeemerNYC w/@ericmetaxas & @KirstenPowers. Tix/info here: https://hashtagpros.webconnex.com/nyc @TheKingsCollege

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  36. Chas, Kirstin is a relatively new Christian as well (and is pro-life now). Metaxas is with Breakpoint (and with Redeemer Presby Church, where Tim Keller is the pastor — I believe that’s where Powers also is a member now). Prager is Jewish & hosts a conservative talk show on the radio that traditionally has been more thoughtful than some of the rest in that particular format.

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  38. If those articles are blocked, just google “Kirsten Powers and christianity” and you’ll get full access to those & others.

    The second link is an interview format that I think is pretty interesting as it addresses her political views and has some interesting points about the White House’s (scary) effort to de-legitimize Fox News.

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  44. Dino? BamBam? I Wanna Be a Flintstone. So where would all of you be without my knowledge of obscure music? Please don’t take offense at the name of the group. Just listen to a fun little Flintstone song.

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  45. Chas, my sense is that Powers tries seriously to apply her faith to her political positions — perhaps more so than someone like say O’Reilly? And I respect her for that.

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  47. That doesn’t mean I think she always gets it right. She doesn’t, especially when it comes to issues like gay marriage.

    But I do sense from her that she’s trying — and we all come with political biases that make us predisposed to siding in a particular way. Sometimes we change our views about these issues, but only over time.

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  48. Michelle, rather than being insulted, I would be encouraged that the women under 40 are looking for the meat.

    Personally, I generally avoid women’s events. I’ve been to a few, and they’re about evenly divided in being among the worst days of my life (half), or somewhere between medicocre and good (the other half). Most of the time women speakers try harder to be practical than theological; there’s some truth to that. It’s also true that women’s conversations (in Christian settings) are far less likely than men’s to be theologically oriented. In fact, I remember vividly in Bible college how jealous I was when I found out that in the men’s dorms at night they argued theology. I was so bored with the fact that fully 90% of the women’s conversations stuck with three topics: boys, music, movies. I’d have given up a good night’s sleep to have a hearty conversation on the significance of the resurrection or the theology of the apostle Paul or whatever. Those conversations only happened if a woman was trying to figure out what something meant when she studied for a test. I mean, they just didn’t happen at all.

    And personally, I get troubled when I see women speakers fall in either of two camps (or both at the same time): pushing Christian feminism and women’s rights to be pastors and elders or saying enough about her family that you can tell she got a master’s and maybe a doctorate while she worked a full-time job and had a couple children under six in her home, and she is now traveling twenty or thirty weekends a year to speak though she has three children under ten. The Bible specifically tells older women to tell other women how to love their husbands and love their children; it nowhere instructs us to leave our husband and young children at home while we travel and talk about less significant things like “finding yourself.” (I am not saying a married woman cannot ever do public speaking, but that she should do so in a very limited manner that does put her family first. I honor Nancy Leigh Demoss for choosing to stay single so that her family isn’t getting the leftovers of her time.)

    But I think the speaker at a woman’s retreat should probably be a woman simply because I think a retreat should be informal and the speaker should ideally also be participating in the relaxation time with other women.

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  52. Megyn Kelly is interviewing Miriam Ibriham tonight at 9:00 EDT On Fox News.
    Miriam is the woman who was held in a prison in Khartoum because of her Christian faith. She was under death penalty because they claimed that she converted from Islam. But she was never Muslim, Her mother was Christian and she married a Christian American citizen.
    She was released because of all the ruckus that was raised.

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  53. http://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/last-things-first-987/?utm_content=buffer5d3c2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    “It is a commonly held notion among Christians today that if you want to avoid an argument in polite Christian company, don’t talk about eschatology. Well, the sentiment to avoid arguing with a Christian brother or sister may be commendable, however, the reality is if you desire to speak about the redemptive work of God in any meaningful way, you will inevitably speak about eschatology.The Scriptures are eschatological. That is, from the first things, the Scriptures are concerned with last things. The first promise God gave to sinful humanity was an eschatological promise; it was a promise of rebuke to the Enemy and a promise of hope to God’s people….”

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  56. Chas, Like me, you are old enough to remember the movie, Khartoum, with Charlton Heston as Chinese Gordon. It really seems as if little has changed in 130 years except for the decline of the British Empire.

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  57. For those who believe there will be a rapture, what happens to the people who aren’t raptured? Will it be possible that they could eventually go to heaven, too?

    I don’t want to start an argument, but I have difficulty believing that Jesus will come for some at one point (the Second Coming), and others at a later time. That seems to fly in the face of, for example, the parable of the ten virgins, and other areas of Scripture that make it clear that we need to be ready, that when the Bridegroom comes, there will be no extra time allowed to prepare to meet the Bridegroom, and no excuses will be acceptable if we’re not ready.

    It seems to me that believing we might have a chance to still get to heaven after a supposed rapture of those who were already believers at the time of Jesus’ return to earth could cause one to be deceived, ie that coming to Christ is not really an urgent matter at the moment, because you have a second chance if you don’t make the rapture. ??

    I’ll admit that end-times study is pretty new to me, but those are some of my thoughts on the subject so far.

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  59. 6 Arrows, years ago, shortly after I did some study and determined that I could definitely not follow dispensationalism, I had to do an editing assignment on a fairly important dispensational book. One thing that fascinated/horrified me was how many different resurrections there were in the system. No way can I name them all, but they had the rapture, and then they had Christians killed during the resurrection and raised (I think) at the end of it, some unbelievers raised for judgment here and there. I think I counted either five or six times that a group of people would be gathered for some resurrection or judgment. I’m not sure the need to make complex what Scripture keeps simple, honestly, and no way does it even hint of such things.

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  73. Now there are two of you the same age as your birth year!
    Have a very special celebration. Though I’m not sure that your celebration can equal Mumsee’s with her sweetie coming for the day and spending so many hours traveling to surprise her.

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  74. Now there are two of you the same age as your birth year!
    Have a very special celebration. Though I’m not sure that your celebration can equal Mumsee’s with her sweetie coming for the day and spending so many hours traveling to surprise her.
    Now it tells me that I have a duplicate comment, when nothing is showing as being posted. So… if this shows up several times – it’s not my fault!!!

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  75. Peter L is also 57, born in 57. He is the one referred to as the older brother. One must humor older brothers. We try to let him think he has the final say in everything but he really doesn’t.

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  76. Younger brothers are, though often little more than tolerated, also considered to be quite amusing. They play an important role in making older sisters feel very important.

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  77. I never really had a younger sister or brother. But this younger sister here is kind of annoying in some ways. We must humor her, though, with her large brood and all.

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