News/Politics 9-5-12

News? Politics? Your choice. What’s on your mind?

Note from Aj

OK. I’m trying to clean things up a bit in regard to the links I put up. You know, trying to make it easier on the eyes. Let’s see how it goes……

Picking up from yesterdays post, it appears that the reports of God being removed from the DNC platform were correct. Why would they feel the need to do that? Let’s ask.

From Washington Examiner

“Sen. Dick Durbin D-Ill. lashed out at Fox News’ Bret Baier this evening, after Baier asked him why the word “God” was taken out of the Democratic platform.”

“Durbin again refused to answer the question, demanding that if Baier was “trying to draw some conclusion that the Democrats are godless,” he need to present “evidence.”

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OK, he won’t answer, he seems a little touchy about it.  Let’s try somebody else…. How about the Minister of Propaganda  Robert Gibbs,  Ooops, I mean White House Spokesman. 🙂

From The Hill

“Robert Gibbs, a senior adviser for President Obama’s campaign, ducked questions on Tuesday regarding whether or not the word “God” was deliberately left out of the Democratic Party platform.

“There’s talk throughout the platform about faith and religion and I think that’s what’s important,” Gibbs told CNN.

The platform, released late Monday, does not include the word “God,” although it does refer twice to freedom of religion and religious tolerance.

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Gee, for two guys who usually love to talk to the press and their cameras, they seem pretty shy about this topic.

25 thoughts on “News/Politics 9-5-12

  1. The strike through is pretty good editing.

    On the topic, while I do believe that religion should not be excised from the public square, I tire of the use of it to win votes. No party in the USA has a monopoly on God, nor should one. One party has numerous adherents who claim God’s mantle for its political positions and purposes. That should cause people to think about what the party claims, imo.

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  2. From a DNC video: “The government is the only thing we all belong to.”

    Everybody belongs to the government? Huh? No, the goverment belongs to the people. The Romney campaign should hit hard on this point. This idea will lead to the violation of all sorts of rights – perhaps most frighteningly, parental rights.

    In truth, we all belong to God. Not government.

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  3. Thanks, AJ. Sometime when I’m more awake, I’ll try looking at that page again and see if my tired old brain can learn some new tricks! 😉

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  4. I just have to share this one. And yes, I know Obama isn’t reponsible for it. Just like he’s not responsible for all those Super-Pac ads run on his behalf. They’re not his, but he’ll still milk it for all it’s worth.

    Tacky seems like too weak a word, but it fits.

    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/dnc-artwork-likens-obama-to-jesus.html

    “Street vendors across downtown Charlotte are selling posters and artwork depicting President Obama as Jesus Christ and the Democratic National Convention is expected to feature a stained-glass window backdrop during their meeting.”

    “One poster features an image of the president in prayer with the headline, “Prophecy Fulfilled.”

    🙄 Just tacky, and maybe borderline blasphemy.

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  5. Do you think those are really made by supporters? They seem so over the top that I wonder if they were designed to purposefully offend people…

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  6. Support the killing of babies – godless yes
    Supporting same sex marriage – godless yes
    Dividing the nation from poor to rich, playing the race card, scaring old people – godless yes
    The promote Government Control over freedom – godless yes
    We can go on.

    So are they are godless? One could make the case of yes the Dem Party has become a godless party.

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  7. From a Christian view point, yes the Dem Party has become a party that has reject God’s Standard and replace it with their own standards..

    Here is the question I have, has the Dem Party replace God with the worship of power and Government Control?

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  8. So let’s see. (1) Voters are slightly more pro-life than pro-choice, and even many supporters of abortion don’t like to talk about it. (2) Recent polls show that a plurality/small majority of voters favor gay marriage; yet voters in many swing states are about evenly divided on the issue, and in NC, one of those swing states and the one in which the convention is being held, voters just voted against it. And it turns off social conservative-leaning, religious independents in swing states in the South and Midwest. (3) Voters are against Obamacare. (4) Swing voters care about things like jobs, the economy, saving entitlements, and the debt.

    So what are the Democrats talking about at their convention? Abortion, gay marriage, and Obamacare. Perplexingly, they’re risking alienating swing voters by talking a lot about divisive social issues. Are they very worried about excitement in their base or what?

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  9. I think they’re worried Matt. How worried? Well……..

    Looks like they decide to move Obama’s speech out of the present venue and into a smaller one in order to fill the seats. You can only bus in so many people I guess. Even though they insisted it would be at the larger venue rain or shine, they’ve now moved it because of weather. Sure, riiiiiight, all those empty seats at the convention and the bad optics that would present have nothing to do with it I’m sure.

    🙄

    http://nationaljournal.com/2012-election/obama-speech-moving-indoors-20120905

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  10. Yesterday (at the convention) Maryland Attorney General Doug Gansler said something to the effect of “when the feds start giving out money, we want to be the first in line.” That turned my stomach. I picture a bunch of grovelling beggars scrambling for a place in line for handouts. I can’t wait to move out of this state.

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  11. I also watched the dance around the platform questions, although I did not see the Gibbs one. I found it interesting, because the Democratic spokesperson kept talking as if the platform really wasn’t important or that it had just ‘happened’ to be written in such a way. It didn’t really mean anything. I found that most interesting having been in the Democratic Conventions up to the state level. The platform was always a big, big fight, with rules and voting in the uppermost minds of the delegates. Nothing was put in by chance or that was thought unimportant by the delegates.

    I have also been at Democratic caucuses where the leader has pointed out the importance of believing the platform. In this case, he assured us he believed every single point and we all should too or not be there. Of course, he was not supposed to be doing that. Everyone has a right to come and submit resolutions at this level and to have them voted upon by all who are present. They also have a right to move on up to the other levels of the party, if voted to do so.

    Now, many, many Democratic voters have no idea what is in the platform, but all those who are more heavily involved, like this spokesperson, certainly do. They are well aware of its importance and the process that it takes to form it.

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  12. Correction to previous comment: Polls of “adults” appear to be slightly in favor of gay marriage, except for an Associated Press poll in June which came out to 42% opposed, 40% in favor and 15% neutral, and a NYT/CBS poll in May which found 51% opposed and 42% supporting. About 9 other polls from this year listed on Wikipedia show a plurality/small majority for gay marriage; but Wikipedia doesn’t include these two polls. And polls of registered voters or likely voters only may be different.

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  13. This is an interesting race in that the parties have seldom been so (openly) philosophically distinct.

    Matt, I heard the audio of that video (lauding government as the one common entity that “we all belong to”) and my immediate reaction was “That’s just creepy.”

    It conjures up all kinds of images of “the state.” (I just thought of one of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes along that theme — the one where Burgess Meredith is hauled before the tribunal for owning a Bible). But I digress.

    Who knows, with all the artistic fun people seem to be having, maybe we’ll get another halo-over-Obama photo out of this convention. 🙂

    The Democrats are on the defensive, never a good position to be in — I may be wrong, and a whole lot of things can happen to change things completely, but I suspect Romney will begin to pull away in the polls, at least by a few more percentage points, by mid September.

    I think there are no immediate convention “bounces” because they are being held within days of each other this time — and people may be waiting for both to be over before finally going one way or the other.

    The removal of “God” from the platform is interesting. I agree with CB that I tire of politicians using God so blatantly. But as a nation collectively, we also have given more than just a tip of the hat to the Creator throughout our history.

    It may be meaningless to many, but I suspect it says something when a major political party decides (it seems pointedly?) to delete all references to God altogether.

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  14. A lot of the electorate has its mind already made up. Undecided voters are an unusually small group this year, so the post-convention “bounce” is small this year. Gallup hasn’t shown a bounce. But Romney’s gained about 4-6 points according to Rasmussen, and the RCP (Real Clear Politics) average yesterday was tied for the first time in nearly a year – Obama had been leading since October 2011. Huffington Post’s poll tracker gives Romney a slight lead today for the first time. Two polls yesterday showed Romney leading in Florida and Ohio (yippee!). And a CNN poll finds that Romney now is viewed more favorably than Obama and is also viewed as the stronger leader, for the first time in months. So that’s the good news for Romney.

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  15. Donna and Matt, I agree that saying we all belong to the government is a bad way of thinking. My husband was really horrified. The government is of, for and by the people–that does not mean we ‘belong’ to it.

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  16. Modesty, You’re on. I’ll take Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, and the Virginias (which will be re-united). Your pick.

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  17. I liked the way President Clinton strung out that phrase talking about the “long, L-O-N-G (longerrrrr than we thought) economic recovery in his convention speech.

    🙂

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