45 thoughts on “News/Politics 9-17-22

  1. I love watching rich, elitist, snob progressives go all NIMBY when some peasants show up unannounced. 🙂

    Call in the troops!

    Here’s an idea, why not just put the troops on the southern border and stop all the nonsense your policies support right there. Then it won’t be your problem.

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    “Massachusetts Activates 125 National Guardsmen To Support 50 Illegal Migrants In Martha’s Vineyard”

    https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/16/massachusetts-national-guard-50-illegal-migrants/

    “Massachusetts is activating 125 national guardsmen to help transport the 50 illegal immigrants who recently arrived at the island of Martha’s Vineyard late Wednesday off the island, Republican Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker announced Friday.

    Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sent the migrants to Martha’s Vineyard on Wednesday as part of the state’s program transporting illegal migrants to sanctuary cities. Massachusetts is now activating its national guard and offering to transport the migrants to Joint Base Cape Cod, Baker announced.”

    And yes, that’s an abuse of the Gov’s authority right there. I guess another RINO has outed himself.

    “WH Can’t Explain Difference Between Republicans And Biden Transporting Illegal Immigrants…”

    Because their is no difference. The hypocrisy is stunning.

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  2. Remember folks, she’s not there for her skill, but she checks the right diversity and inclusion boxes.

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  3. Fact: They’re reacting to a crisis the white house created.

    Yes, because everyone knows that on the mean streets of Martha’s Vineyard they’re especially vulnerable. 🙄

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  4. Indeed, but the gaslighting never, ever stops.

    And that is their intent.

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  5. Nailed it.

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  6. Again, nails it.

    And a brief history lesson.

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  7. And another false liberal narrative bites the dust.

    Against their will!

    Sure….. 🙄

    So is this “kidnapping” too, or is that only when R’s do it?

    Again, the hypocrisy is off the charts.

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  8. Truth.

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  9. A little salt for your wounds….

    The hypocrisy is again just stunning, as is their gaslighting for the press, who just lap it up and run with the Dem lies.

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  10. I can’t get over that it takes 125 troops to transport 50 immigrants anywhere.

    The press secretary is embarrassing. Then again, it is terrible to have to lie.

    The danger to our country when we have no idea who is flooding is sad to contemplate.

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  11. As Julie Kelly noted above, the Jan6 prosecutions are imploding.

    “The ‘Insurrection’ Probe Is Falling Apart

    The government has created, by their own overheated hyperbole, a nearly insurmountable obstacle to proving their initial accusations in court.”

    https://amgreatness.com/2021/03/30/the-insurrection-probe-is-falling-apart/

    “He is known as the “zip tie guy.”

    In one of the most iconic photographs of the January 6 Capitol melee, Eric Munchel, wearing tactical gear, is seen holding up a fistful of zip ties in the Senate gallery. Munchel, the media quickly concluded, brought the flex cuffs to arrest lawmakers attempting to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election. The woman photographed with him later was identified as his mother, Lisa Eisenhart.

    The top federal prosecutor who handled the first two months of the Justice Department’s Capitol breach probe recently bragged that Munchel was one of the first protestors targeted in the agency’s unprecedented 50-state manhunt for alleged “insurrectionists.”

    Former U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin told “60 Minutes” that he authorized the arrest of more than 100 people prior to January 20 in a display of “shock and awe” to intimidate Americans who planned to protest Joe Biden’s inauguration; he specifically referred to the detention of the “the zip tie guy” as a way to send a message. “We wanted to take out those individuals that essentially were thumbing their noses at the public for what they did.”

    Munchel and Eisenhart, once they realized they were under investigation, turned themselves in to law enforcement a few days after the Capitol protest. Government prosecutors successfully fought to keep both behind bars pending their trial although they committed no violent crime and had remained in the building for less than 15 minutes; on January 24, the D.C. federal judge presiding over the Capitol investigation ordered both defendants transported from Tennessee to a Washington jail to await their day in court.

    Prosecutors darkly warned in late January the two Americans could be the first Capitol defendants to be charged with sedition, a crime almost never applied to U.S. citizens.

    A Major Blow to the Prosecution

    And that’s when the case against Munchel and Eisenhart began to fall apart. In fact, several cases now face an uphill battle as the Justice Department’s abusive overreach related to January 6 is exposed in federal court.

    In a major blow to both prosecutors and judges who’ve signed off on dozens of orders to deny bail to Capitol breach defendants—including nonviolent offenders such as Munchel and Eisenhart—the D.C. Court of Appeals on March 26 asked a lower court to “consider anew the government’s motion for detention” for the pair.

    The three judges carefully deconstructed the charges against mother and son, noting neither has been accused of violence such as assault or destruction of property. One judge argued the detention order should be reversed, not revisited. In his partial dissent, Judge Gregory Katsas took aim at the Justice Department’s exaggerated case.

    “While there, they attempted neither violence nor vandalism,” Katsas wrote. “They searched for no Members of Congress, and they harassed no police officers. They found plastic handcuffs by chance, but never threatened to use them. Munchel’s threat to ‘break’ anyone who vandalized the Capitol was intended to prevent destruction and was addressed to no one in particular.”

    “The only felony the government could come up with to charge Munchel and Eisenhart—who are being charged together—is “obstruction of an official proceeding,” which is an enhancement count filed against defendants charged with misdemeanors.

    After the court’s spanking, the government withdrew its detention order on March 29: Munchel and Eisenhart will now live under the same home detention rules a Tennessee judge ordered more than two months ago and that the government successfully appealed.

    The appellate court order had a quick impact on other cases. That same day, another federal judge, citing the court’s opinion, challenged the Justice Department’s pre-trial detention motions for two members of the Oath Keepers, a group facing conspiracy charges for its role in the Capitol breach.

    U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta ordered the release of Donovan Crowl and Connie Meggs. (On March 24, Mehta released Laura Steele, a defendant in the Oath Keepers case, and on March 12, Mehta released an ailing 66-year-old veteran prosecutors accused, without evidence, of helping Oath Keepers plan to storm the building.) The government then withdrew its detention request for another Oath Keeper, Graydon Young, on March 29.”

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    “Politico reporters just dropped the bad news that most protestors won’t face jail time.

    “Although prosecutors have loaded up their charging documents with language about the existential threat of the insurrection to the republic, the actions of many of the individual rioters often boiled down to trespassing,” Josh Gerstein and Kyle Cheney admitted in an article published Tuesday, an observation American Greatness has been pointing out for weeks. “Justice Department prosecutors sent expectations sky-high in early statements and court filings, describing elaborate plots to murder lawmakers—descriptions prosecutors have tempered as new details emerged.”

    The government also will have to contend with the long-term legal consequences of continuing to pursue obstruction charges that will criminalize future political dissent. As I explained in this column, the vague charge, initially aimed at white-collar criminals not political protesters, has been applied to more than 130 defendants so far.

    But any conviction would codify its use against anyone who disrupts a government meeting or ceremony. “While violent assaults in the Capitol are rare, protests and acts of civil disobedience—such as disrupting congressional hearings or even House and Senate floor sessions, are more common,” Politico admitted. “That means prosecutors and judges will have to weigh how much more punishment a Trump supporter who invaded the Capitol during the Electoral College count deserves than, say, an anti-war protester chanting at a CIA confirmation hearing or a gun-control advocate shouting in the middle of the State of the Union address.”

    No kidding.”

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  12. Perhaps someday our leaders of all political stripes can find a way to seriously address the immigration situation in our nation.

    The political posturing makes valid points but has gone far enough, the point has been made. So now what?

    We need a serious effort by all sides on a national immigration policy — which must also include a move to (really) secure the border.

    I’m not holding my breath for that to actually happen, however.

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  13. I was just reading a piece in Newsmax on how Afghan women are no longer allowed to sit on seats in cars but must sit in the trunk or luggage compartment in their burkas. Sad to see our American political and news media women supporting such actions with their “tolerance”.

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  14. It does not bother me if they continue shipping, safely, a few illegals to certain points. The federal gov’t seems to have no problem doing so, nothing wrong with the States helping out until “they” are ready to seriously address the problem. A few thousand is a drop in the bucket and they are being sent to places with the wherewithall to help if not the will to help.

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  15. Good idea by religion writer T Matt on Twitter:

    ~ Radical idea. Monthly meeting of Ron DeSantis and David French.
    They argue a lot. But goal is pro-parent, pro-religious liberty efforts that can win in courts. ~

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  16. A massive win for FREE SPEECH!

    Let’s move on to the SC showdown…

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/court-rules-against-social-media-companies-in-free-speech-censorship-fight_4737140.html

    “A federal appeals court in New Orleans has ruled in favor of a Texas law that seeks to rein in the power of social media companies like Facebook and Twitter to censor free speech.

    The decision by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans (pdf), handed down on Sept. 16, upholds the constitutionality of a Texas law signed by Gov. Greg Abbott last year and delivers a victory to Republicans in their fight against big tech censorship of conservative viewpoints.

    “Today we reject the idea that corporations have a freewheeling First Amendment right to censor what people say,” U.S. Circuit Court Judge Andrew Oldham wrote in the opinion.

    “Because the district court held otherwise, we reverse its injunction and remand for further proceedings,” Oldham added, setting the stage for a showdown in the U.S. Supreme Court.”

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  17. DeSantis, desperate for attention and in need of drawing Trump supporters, wants to ship migrants somewhere. He didn’t want Abbot to have all the fun and attention.

    He had a problem though – apparently there were no migrants in Florida he could exploit. Perhaps they were relatives of Cuban-Americans who vote for him or perhaps they were too busy picking fruit and vegetables at substandard wages for people who supported DeSantis. Hence, he reaches out to Abbot who generously allows him to exploit some migrants.

    Using state money he not only pays for these migrants to be flown from Texas to Massachusetts, he also makes sure some of his personal staff are along for the ride to record him “owning the libs”. A gross misuse of state funds; the budget only allowed for transit costs to Florida migrants.

    In order to find enough migrants to find a plane, a mysterious woman promises them jobs and housing in Boston. From what I understand, recruiting asulym seekers for work is illegal. Once recruited, they were loaded on a plane and flown not to Boston but to Martha’s Vineyard.

    DHS workers also participated in this charade. According to a lawyer representing the migrants (its Marthas Vineyard, of course there’s a lawyer) , they were given documents which gave their address as homeless shelters in various cities of the US with instructions to appear in court next week — obviously impossible if they were in Massachusetts and the documents said Seattle.

    The reaction on the internet confirms the fact that nobody listens on the internet. Trump Republicans are laughing about how they owned the libs and exposed their hypocrisy. Meanwhile the left of center thinks the stunt backfired and they owned the conservatives by being generous and helping out those treated as cargo by DeSantis. Furthermore, they see this as exposing the hypocrisy of a party who claims to be pro-family and pro-life. Some even claimed this exposed evangelical Christianity as a fraud.

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  18. More thoughts even if you don’t want them;

    It’s obvious the migrants agreed to the flight under false pretences and false documentation. This is entirely different from moving migrants from Marthas Vineyard to Cape Cod.

    Trump’s remain policy violated the law. Once you claim asulym you can’t be returned to the previous country unless there is a Safe Country type treaty. Biden is following the law in letting migrants remain. Strangely some of these tweets claim migrants are better off waiting in Mexico. The same commentators who describe Mexico as a violent lawless state when demanding a wall being built.

    The DHS does move migrants around the country for various reasons. Whether some on the left approve or not, this is a legal gov’t policy and has been in place prior to Biden. Biden is not personally responsible for the movement of migrants – a good leader or president allows various departments to make their own decision.

    Abbott picking on DC is easy – it’s not a state and has limited power and ability. DeSantis wanted to one up him and sent the migrants to the “rich liberal elites” and he might have bitten off more than he can chew. I see a few civil suits being filed on behalf of the migrants. And one wonders if Florida authorities will see this as an abuse of state funds.

    Most of these migrants came from Venezuela. That’s a heck of a walk. And for Americans who complain about these asulym seekers, the US gov’t might want to end their bipartisan campaign against the Venezuelan gov’t.

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  19. I just saw this on an email. Is it true?
    “This week, the governor of California received a disgusting new abortion bill that could LEGALIZE INFANTICIDE up to 28 days after a baby is born. All it needs now is his signature. We sent Newsom a legal letter urging him NOT to sign the depraved infanticide bill.”

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  20. HRW,

    Whether you and Dems like it is irrelevant. DeSantis is doing his job, which is to address a problem that costs his state taxpayers billions to deal with because the feds won’t do their job and deport the invaders and close the borders.

    It’s not Christian to aid those invading your country and smuggling in killer drugs which are killing a 100’s US citizens a week and humans trafficked who are coming predominately for economic reasons by their own admission.

    And as you always remind us, our govt is secular. So what you, a foreigner and non believer think is irrelevant. I think your bastardized view of Christianity and what it calls us to do are laughable.

    Caesar has laws we are to follow them, those include immigration laws. It’s our job to follow them, even if Biden wont.

    And again what’s Christian about allowing the continued abuse of migrants by cartels and human traffickers? Those forced into prostitution, or raped intransit, or exploited by gangs and sold as sex slaves. Is it Christian to not want that stopped?

    You lose on this with American voters HRW. that’s a fact. Stop blaming Christians and the bad orange man for allowing this fiasco. The left built this. Stop projecting.

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  21. DJ,

    Congress is a large part of the problem. Everyone agrees reforms are needed.

    But while Rs do nothing but wring their hands while the other side pretends to clutch their pearls, Biden has smuggled in 4 million plus new arrivals. Their plan is get more, cause a crisis, get reform and make everyone thankful new citizens and voters. Just think of the effect 20 million current non citizens suddenly granted access to elections would do. You could lock down elections for decades.

    All this happens and useless Rs do nothing but pose,never doing a damn thing even when they could.

    Our govt built this, but they won’t save us from the destruction. This is how countries die.

    The only guy who did a damn thing to stop this was Trump. Yet he sent mean tweets, and had to go. All of this is the result of the 2020 elections.

    2024 is gonna decide where this country goes, and the difference in policy couldn’t be clearer. Folks need to get off the fence and pick a side.

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  22. “… the left of center thinks the stunt backfired and they owned the conservatives by being generous and helping out…”

    Generous and helping out? The very next day they sent in the National Guard to remove the brown folks from Martha’s Vineyard!

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  23. But is it not possible to acknowledge we have a secular government with civil laws to be followed — and all within a pluralistic society with a wide diversity of beliefs — while still maintaining a disposition of compassion and a biblical approach that understands real people are involved and often caught up in these political disputes? Is that not also our calling as believers?

    I stand by my view that both political “camps” need to come to their senses, work across the aisle, and begin to seriously consider the nation’s immigration policies. It’s the only thing that promises to get us out of this quagmire in which we are thoroughly stuck.

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  24. This is what election interference looks like.

    “Election Interference: DOJ/FBI Carpet-Bombed Subpoenas An Attempt To Freeze Political Opposition In Runup To Midterms

    If Trumpworld and conservative world and Republican world legitimately were deserving of carpet bombed subpoenas regarding January 6, it would have been done a year ago, not now in the runup to the 2022 midterms. It’s reminiscent of the 2013-2014 prosecutorial attempt to freeze the Wisconsin conservative movement.”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/09/election-interference-doj-fbi-carpet-bombed-subpoenas-an-attempt-to-freeze-political-opposition-in-runup-to-midterms/

    “In recent days, the U.S. Department of Justice has served upwards of 40 subpoenas on people affiliated with Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign, many of whom continue to associate with or support him.

    The reports were first aired by Steven Bannon, and confirmed at least in part by attorney Harmeet Dhillon:”

    “The NY Times and other mainstream media have confirmed (with glee) the large number of subpoenas, including phone seizures:

    Justice Department officials have seized the phones of two top advisers to former President Donald J. Trump and blanketed his aides with about 40 subpoenas in a substantial escalation of the investigation into his efforts to subvert the 2020 election, people familiar with the inquiry said on Monday.

    The seizure of the phones, coupled with a widening effort to obtain information from those around Mr. Trump after the 2020 election, represent some of the most aggressive steps the department has taken thus far in its criminal investigation into the actions that led to the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob.

    The subpoenas themselves are extraordinarily broad, seeking communications with dozens of people. So one subpoena to one person actually implicates dozens of people. ”

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    Another scam from the Dept. of Injustice.

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  25. 8,000 a day and counting.

    But the border is secure, right Dems?

    And this sounds strangely like what R Govs are doing, which the left is losing their feeble little minds over. Weird, right?

    https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/09/16/as-border-influx-nears-8000-per-day-dhs-proposes-fresh-new-idea-busing-migrants-to-cities-around-the-country-n497057

    “The professional left seems to be going all in on what bad Christians the southern governors are. A bad Christian in their view is someone who demands that the people who trumpet their desire to welcome migrants the loudest actually welcome some migrants.

    And from that you can sort of intuit what their idea of a good Christian would look like. It’s someone who deals with the thousands of people showing up at the border every day in perpetuity and never troubles the East Coast liberals and progressive activists who insist the current system is working humanely and as intended. A good Christian keeps all of the chaos, misery and human need down there where it belongs at the border.

    The result of this media dynamic is that the good people of Martha’s Vineyard are being praised to the rafters for the way they’ve dealt with 50 migrants for less than two days. Meanwhile, the tacky people down south who’ve been dealing with a much larger influx for the past two years are merely proof that “the cruelty is the point.” Never mind that Texas has fed and clothed 1,000 times as many people as Martha’s Vineyard or that it does so routinely. And never mind that the fine folks in the Vineyard have already announced that those 50 migrants will have to leave the island soon because there’s no room for them long term. An island that welcomes nearly 200,000 people every summer doesn’t “have housing for 50 more people” the woman who runs the local homeless shelter said yesterday.

    I saw someone last night suggest on Twitter that an actual good Christian would have offered to take some of these migrants off the hands of the overwhelmed southern states rather than just sit back and watch the chaos from afar. But you can bet the theological analysis of this situation won’t run that deep in the media.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world, the situation at the border remains a historic crisis. As I pointed out yesterday, the Biden administration is quietly begging Mexico to allow the US to return more migrants under Title 42, the Trump-era COVID protocol that the Biden administration has publicly said it wants to end. Mexico is apparently resisting that but did agree to fly more of the migrants at its northern border down to its southern border. That’s intended to at least slow the pace of migrants somewhat and I’m willing to bet no one in the media will suggest the Biden administration are acting like bad Christians for pushing Mexico to do this.

    NBC News reports today that the Department of Homeland Security has proposed some fresh new solutions to deal with the border crisis. One of the suggestions that has been put on the table is to start up what’s being called “interior processing.” What is that you ask? Well it’s putting migrants on buses and airplanes and shipping them to cities around the country.

    Wait, isn’t that exactly what those bad border state governors are already doing? Yes, which is why the White House is apparently dragging its heels on this plan. Another proposal was to skip the US entirely and send the migrants straight to the Canadian border.”

    —–

    That sounds like a plan. Then HRW and Canada can show us how it’s done. You have plenty of land and resources to share, so how about we just start sending them to overwhelm your border, and then you can show us what good people you are, instead of just the never ending virtue signaling you’re doing now.

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  26. Like I said, medically unfit, just like Biden.

    “Fetterman took two cognitive tests but he won’t release the result documentation”

    https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2022/09/16/fetterman-took-two-cognitive-tests-but-he-wont-release-the-result-documentation-n497119

    “Trust them, his campaign says John Fetterman is healthy. What more proof do you want? Test results? Nah. Fetterman isn’t releasing his cognitive health test results. Don’t be so unreasonable.”

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  27. The last paragraph of my first comment was designed to point out the conflicting narratives on the internet. I don’t necessarily agree with either narrative. I agree with those who realize that political discourse is not well served by memes, twitter storms and “owning” the other side.

    In all that noise, facts are left out. One group leaves out that the National Guard was called and the other side leaves out the fact DeSantis used state funds to move migrants out of Texas not Florida.

    DeSantis is not serving his state when he sends his personal staff to Texas and then sends migrants from Texas to Massachusetts. If migrants and asulym seekers were a Florida problem he would not have to exploit migrants from Texas. Its an abuse of funds for a political stunt; if the migrants were Florida perhaps he could justify it.

    Another issue I see is the conflation of legitimate asulym seekers with drug smuggling. Although both may take place along the southern border, they are entirely separate. When you characterize an entire group based on the behaviour of a few, ethnic and racial stereotypes are created. And in this particular case, it’s not even the same ethnicity or nationality. Asulym seekers are generally not Mexican; they are from Central America or Venezuela (like those dumped in Martha’s Vineyard) , they do not manufacture nor smuggle fentayl. Mexicans make it and they use US citizens to bring it into the US.

    Tightening the border, prosecuting asulym seekers or using them as political stunts is not going to stop the abuse by human smugglers. In fact, the opposite will happen – people will continue to come and the smugglers will be even more necessary with tighter enforcement. I would think allowing asulym seekers to cross at a border post would eliminate the abuse far more effectively.

    This article from a liberatarian prespective, makes some interesting points and has the stats; https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers

    In your analogy, wouldn’t Ceasar be Biden and shouldn’t his rules be obeyed. In general, I personally think the render unto Ceasar verse is easily abused by various political groups – the Russian Orthodox church applies it to Putin.

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  28. Participate in an illegal activity, attempt to interfere with the legislature, or associate with people who do and you will get a subpoena. What did the participants of January 6 expect? Did they not expect the police to investigate this as a possible planned event? Are they so naive or entitled that they think the law won’t be applied to them?

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  29. Sending those immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard was a mean-spirited stunt to make a political point. Those people were promised jobs and housing, and the people of Martha’s Vineyard were not notified that they were coming.

    The verse that comes to mind in reference to the lies that were told is Proverbs 13:12a: “Hope deferred makes the heart sick. . .” To have come all that way and be told that they were going to be helped, only for it to be a stunt and a lie must have been heart-crushing. It is better to not hope for something than to have the hope held out and then turn out to be a lie.

    “Migrants in the group said they’d agreed to fly to Massachusetts on the promise of jobs and assistance but didn’t realize they were bound for Martha’s Vineyard. No one on the island knew they were coming and, according to their attorneys, they’d been given falsified U.S. addresses by immigration officials, perhaps ensuring that they’d be deemed in the country illegally.

    “They were told there was a surprise present for them, and that there would be jobs and housing awaiting for them when they arrived. This was obviously a sadistic lie,” said Rachel Self, a Boston immigration attorney who was assisting with the migrants’ cases.”

    https://news.yahoo.com/sadistic-lie-venezuelans-flown-martha-093000674.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00

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  30. AJ – In his comment at t 12:22, HRW pointed out that you had misunderstood his point. I noticed that, too, and it is something that happens now and then. Maybe you read his comments too quickly, assuming that you know what his opinion is going to be?

    HRW may be liberal, which he freely says, but many of his comments are more nuanced than a merely typical-liberal-vs-typical-conservative viewpoint.

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  31. Irregular border crossings (the term the Cdn gov’t uses) resulting in refugee claims do occur in Canada. Mostly a few thousand a month. Initially mostly Haitian at the Quebec-Vermont border and Somalis at the Manitoba-Minnesota border, people now come from everywhere. Human smugglers are not really needed since all the migrants have to do is hire a taxi to the border. It’s fairly well known and I’m surprised we don’t have more coming. I have no problem with it. Send them. The ability to demonstrate empathy is an essential part of being human.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/25/canada-refugee-asylum-seekers-roxham-road

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  32. I know I could have misinterpreted something in reading the CA newspaper article on the abortion bill, but to give both the left leaning news source and the right leaning legal firm the benefit of the doubt, and to come to a middle interpretation, I feel the left is focused on seeing the good intentions of the proposed law for the sake of women who they give weight to as the most important life of either woman or baby. I think the legal firm is taking a straightforward approach to looking at all the ramifications of the law and how it could be applied as written, not just looking at the ‘good intention’ of the law.

    I am reminded of when I was more engaged in our GA state politics and a law was preposed to keep underage young women who were being pimped from being arrested for prostitution. It sounded like a good and fair law which would keep the young ladies from having an arrest record to follow them all their lives. But, the group I was with explained that arresting the young ladies was the only way to get them out of the hands of the pimps, off the street, and to safety. So we were to oppose the bill as written and seek to have a better bill written and passed.

    I know it is a different issue, but both involve the safety of the young, and babies are the youngest of the young. I think the better route would be to rework that bill. But that’s in CA and their business. GA has enough troubles of its own!

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  33. Janice – One of my Facebook friends, and someone whom MakeItMan knew in-person at one time, has been an “extra” in many movies and TV shows over the years, and he lives in Georgia, where I think much of his work is.

    He has several friends who have been in the “extra” business for many years. Pretty interesting.

    As for that piece about the California law, just to be clear, I did not post that in favor of the law, but for the part about the “up to 28 days after birth” part seeming to be false.

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  34. Yes, Kizzie, I understood you were posting an answer to my question and not because you agree with the law.

    Georgia has long time had a small film industry with the likes of Tyler Perry here. But one Governor (Deal) made a big push to set things in favor of Hollywood relocating here to get much better tax rates and lower cost of living so many came here based on that. We, of course, got some good people, but the smell of money and vices that were more Hollywood prevalent seemed to move in at that time. It’s like Stacey Abrams is puzhing for legalized gambling if she is governor. With it, we will have a whole new group of people looking for opportunities to take advantage of the vulnerable.

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  35. I have to agree; legalized gambling is simply a bad idea and I am surprised Abrams is in favour. Gambling as a revenue source for a state/country is usually the result of the failure to tax properly. Historically, it’s a sign of decline in countries.

    I googled “state gambling a sign of decline” out of curiosity and this article was the first hit. Basically sums up my opinion.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/world-our-casino/620791/

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  36. The Geargia Gang is a political show on Sunday mornings with two representatives from each of our main political parties and a moderator. They have informative political discussions. One of them stated that Abrams is going for the black male vote with her new ad on gambling. I think that is sad.

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  37. Janice; It would be sad if it is true. I’ve never known African American men and gambling as a stereotype; normally I hear Asian men and gambling. My own experience suggests card games to be a working class thing and sports betting (where the real money is now) to be middle class suburban white guys. Perhaps its geographic and cultural and African Americans in the south are into gambling but here it’s mostly the white middle class males. The amount of time and money some of my male colleagues invest into sports and sport betting is incredible – I’d rather read a book or travel.

    One of my favourite authors, George Orwell explained perfectly why a socialist should oppose gambling,

    “Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbours, films, football, beer, and above all, gambling, filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”

    This was from 1984 and “them” is the working class.

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  38. ” according to their attorneys ”

    Seriously Kizzie?

    They have attorneys already?

    But this isn’t a scam set up?

    Maybe instead of pointing out the Govs stunt, you stop falling for the
    invaders’ obvious stunts.

    New arrivals, but already with lawyers. So who is paying for those lawyers? Surely it can’t be those poor invaders who are just here to make a living right?

    Don’t dig too deeply though, it might upset the narrative you’ve chosen to buy.

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  39. ” To have come all that way and be told that they were going to be helped, only for it to be a stunt and a lie must have been heart-crushing. It is better to not hope for something than to have the hope held out and then turn out to be a lie.”

    Helped?

    To what?

    Our jobs? Our benefits? Our social services?

    They got what they were promised, a free trip to Mass. They’re here predominately for economic reasons. Period.

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