27 thoughts on “News/Politics 4-14-21

  1. Sanjay Gupta has joined the dark side. 🙂

    “CNN’s Sanjay Gupta Supports Former CDC Director’s ‘Informed’ Theory That COVID Escaped From Wuhan Lab”

    I know… I know…. crazy talk, right?


    “In late March, I blogged that former CDC Director Robert Redfield asserted that COVID-19 likely came from a laboratory in Wuhan, China: “I’m of the point of view that I still think the most likely etiology of this pathology in Wuhan was from a laboratory — escaped.”

    Now, CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta has broken ranks with his network to support Redfield’s belief theory on the coronavirus’s origin.

    Last month, Redfield opened up in an interview with Gupta for a CNN special, saying he believes an accident at the Wuhan Institute of Virology is the ‘most likely’ origin for the coronavirus pandemic.

    CNN commentators sneered at Redfield’s opinion, with the network in one tweet insisting there was ‘a lack of clear evidence’ for the lab escape theory, but Gupta backed Redfield up in an interview published on Thursday.

    ‘He’s an experienced virologist. He was also head of the CDC at the time this was happening, which means that in addition to everything that we know, he had access to raw data and raw intelligence that was coming out of China,’ Gupta told Mediate’s The Interview podcast.

    Dr. Gupta stressed that Redfield‘s opinion was an “informed” one that could be supported “just from an Occam’s razor standpoint.”

    “My point is that it’s a much more informed sort of thing for him to be saying than for anybody who may have expertise in virology, because he has a lot more knowledge and information that he has that maybe he can’t share, but is informing his opinion,” he said, adding, “It’s still an opinion.”

    Dr. Gupta said he gave Dr. Redfield multiple opportunities during the March 26 interview to clarify his remarks, but that he “really was quite adamant that this was the origin of the virus.”

    “I was not as shocked by what he said as the fact that he said it,” Dr. Gupta said. “There’s reason to suspect that this is the origin of the virus. It’s a big virology lab right in Wuhan that happened to be studying bat coronaviruses. Just from an Occam’s razor standpoint, finding the simplest explanation, it would make sense.”

    I will note that CNN may have been ahead of the curve if it paid attention to our February 2020 post: Chinese university researchers believe virus may originate from government laboratory.”


  2. Let’s return to work by striking.


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  3. Kizzie, Cheryl: As AJ correctly pointed out, you just have to do the math with the CDC numbers.
    This isn’t a vaccine – it is gene therapy (and never have mRNA vaccines been given to humans before). If you do the research, you will realize the potential side effects, including adverse, severe reactions (or death!) which are far more dangerous than Covid itself. Why take a ‘vaccine’ for a virus that you have about a 99.5% chance of recovering from anyway? Especially when the ‘vaccine’ is only authorized by the FDA for emergency use (and the companies have no liability!). The ‘shot’ is NOT approved – if you take it, you are basically allowing yourself to be a guinea pig in their studies. It doesn’t even stop infection or transmission, but it does knock out your natural immunity!

    Don’t listen to the lies of Fauci, Gates or the media! Just take plenty of Vitamin D (every fall/winter, otherwise get plenty of sunshine), along with zinc, magnesium, Vitamin C or quercetin. If you happen to get infected, then immediately take Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine – they are very safe, and very effective. (Any surprise that the “powers that be” don’t want to promote these treatments, which have worked so well in so many countries of the world?) Trust the incredible immune system which God has given you, not an unapproved, unvetted, experimental medical device!



  4. It’s now official, folks – corporations (in cooperation with Leftists) will now make the rules.

    So much for “We the people.” Fascism at its finest…


  5. So much for individual privacy.

    I hope that you Californians are paying attention…


    “California’s Orange County plans to launch a pilot program for digital CCP virus vaccine and testing passports, according to health officials.

    The vaccine and testing credentialing arrangement will be rolled out sometime in April, Orange County Health Care Agency officials said on Twitter.

    “The Digital Passport enables individuals to participate safely and with peace of mind in activities that involve interactions with other people, including travel, attractions, conferences/meetings, concerts, sports, school and more,” officials added.

    While details are scant about how the digital vaccine passport would work, the Orange County health agency’s director and health officer, Dr. Clayton Chau, told the O.C. Register that the county’s existing Othena vaccine scheduling app could be modified to include a credentialing feature.”


  6. The trouble is, Tychicus, that it is difficult to know who to believe about many of these medical decisions. My husband was told he just needed vitamin D etc. for his cancer. I was told all this as well about my Grave’s disease. There are many who distain Western medicine and say we can just do everything in a natural way. These are often the ones who distain the vaccination. They are ones who have made those of us with medical issues have even more stress and pain. So, who to believe? All vaccinations started as something completely new at some point. All modern medical developments started the same way. IMO, everyone has to make their own decision, but to talk like the decision is an easy one to make one direction or they other is foolish, in my opinion.

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  7. Agree or not, a valid perspective. Sometimes we all need to calm down and take a breath:




    America’s health bureaucracies have been forced by the pandemic to make dozens of difficult decisions and recommendations. Some of them have been sound and some have been flawed. In some cases, we still don’t know for sure whether the decisions/recommendations were sound or flawed.

    I don’t blame these bureaucracies for getting stuff wrong. They were faced with a virus about which very little was known. It was always likely that, even operating in good faith, they would make some erroneous decisions.

    But the decision by the FDA and CDC to recommend a pause in the administering of the J&J vaccine seems like an unforced error. According to the joint statement of these two agencies, 6.8 million doses of this vaccine have been administered in the U.S. Six people who have received the vaccine (via a one time shot) have reported experiencing a rare and severe type of blood clot associated with strokes.

    That’s less than one person in a million. …

    … Moreover, according to Johns Hopkins Medicine, five out of a million people experience this rare blood clot every year. Thus, one-in-a-million might overstate the extent to which the J&J vaccine has produced the clot.

    I don’t understand how the FDA/CDC recommendation can be justified. The effects of the pause will be (1) to slow down the effort to vaccinate all Americans who want to be vaccinated and (2) to cause fewer Americans to want to be vaccinated, due to unjustified fear of serious side effects. …

    … The second effect — fewer Americans willing to be vaccinated against the Wuhan coronavirus — will take hold even if the pause is brief. That damage has already been done.

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  8. Personally, I don’t think a pause, as they’re calling it, is altogether unreasonable. But this does also reflect a decision made out of an abundance of caution, based on the facts we have (and, frankly, in an atmosphere where some pretty extremist views of the supposed dangers of vaccines are gaining popularity).

    We’re living in a period of confusion, distrust, and a fair amount of generalized anger infused through all of it.

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  9. And all the young, working people who were poised to get vaccinated starting tomorrow, are now back on hold–where they have been for a year. Let them make their own decision about risk.

    Some of them may even be able to do math.

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  10. Even if the survival rate of Covid is as high as suggested on yesterday’s thread, the virus is highly contagious, so the number of deaths adds up quickly. 350,000 deaths is serious, even if only a small percentage of those who had the virus. Who knows how many more would have died without the precautions we have been taking?


  11. An encouraging opinion piece in the WSJ


    Climate Media vs. Climate Science

    The good news is that scientists themselves have started to correct the record.

    By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.

    Joe Biden has put a presidential imprimatur on climate change being an existential threat, and he doesn’t mean in the Jean-Paul Sartre sense of man’s search for meaning in an uncomforting universe.

    He means the end of humanity, a claim nowhere found in climate science.

    This is odd because the real news today is elsewhere. Its movement may be ocean-liner-like, the news may be five years old before the New York Times notices it, but the climate community has been backing away from a worst-case scenario peddled to the public for years as “business as usual.”

    A drumroll moment was Zeke Hausfather and Glen Peter’s 2020 article in the journal Nature partly headlined: “Stop using the worst-case scenario for climate warming as the most likely outcome.” … ~


  12. My body, my choice….

    Who are you to question my personal choices?

    I’ve decided to skip the vaccine and just self-identify as vaccinated.


  13. Kizzie,

    It matters because once again a media publication (your link yesterday) published a bogus “fact check” that you bought. I showed that #1 their assertion that the CDC didn’t provide these numbers was false, and #2, by doing some simple math, you could see that Tychicus’ numbers were accurate, and that the “fact check” was completely wrong. Simple looking at the CDC linked numbers I provided proves this.

    Sorry, truth matters, so don’t just brush it aside like that in 1:08.

    And don’t gloss over the fact that your source was completely wrong. Maybe check yourself next time before buying the narrative the Statesman was selling you. Bothe Google and DDG have links for the CDC numbers.

    This is garbage from the Statesman..

    “The age-specific “survival rates” listed in the post did not come from the CDC, however. CDC spokesperson Jasmine Reed told PolitiFact that the agency has not released any age-specific COVID-19 survival rates, nor does it have mortality rates available.”

    Here ya’ go, deaths, cases, by age, sex, ethnicity and everything.



  14. Just a comment on the COVID death rate.

    While 500K deaths is very sad, what about the people who did NOT die of other illnesses but succumbed to COVID?

    Remember? All the associated hospitalization deaths that included COVID in the cause of death even if the person was really dying of something else they’d had for a long time and which was mortal?

    The 2020 flu deaths in the US are down to next to nothing. It usually kills many, many people. (Was it 350K in 2019?)

    Can we deduct the number of deaths that did NOT come from the flu from the COVID numbers to get a real idea of what the mortality rate in the US was in 2020?

    I think we might find interesting statistics if we did that.

    I do not have a link, so take what I wrote with a grain of salt. But there are anomalies out there.

    From what I’ve heard/read, it’s about a wash. As in, as many people died last year from COVID as would have statistically died anyway from something else.

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  15. DJ, I don’t see your 1:40 note as rude.

    AJ, April 13 at 3:08 a.m. (on the April 12 news thread) Tychicus posted numbers that included a survival rate for “Ages 50-69: 99.5%” I questioned that as high compared to other data I’ve seen. You came back on the April 13 news thread, 9:59 p.m. and posted this:

    With the 50 to 64 age group….
    Total cases…. 4,962,925
    Deaths…… 63,783
    Percent surviving…. 98.65%

    And then wrote, “The numbers Tychicus posted are correct. Sorry ladies.”
    Actually, 99.5% for 50-69 and 98.65% for 50-64 are quite a bit different. One gives a 0.5% chance of death for a group that includes people up to 69. The second has a 1.35% chance of death (almost three times as much) for a group that stops five years younger at the upper end. By the time you include those oldest five years, you’d surely have reached a 1.5% or higher.

    I didn’t double-check your math or go to the source. Assuming your math is correct, the correct numbers are indeed far higher for the age group I questioned. (The age group 50-69 includes me and all my siblings, my husband and his sister, my sisters-in-law, and most of my closest friends, so numbers being off by three times is a fairly significant difference.)

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  16. kathaleena: I don’t mean to come across as insensitive – on the contrary, I share what I share because I’m deeply concerned about all the misinformation that is out there (esp. from those who are spreading it for nefarious purposes). However, I generally agree that it’s difficult to know who to actually trust with many of these medical issues.

    Communication on important issues is difficult anyway, and even more so when we are doing so on an impersonal forum like this (even though we could be considered ‘friends’).

    My wife also has a chronic autoimmune disease – MS. The only solutions she was offered were immunosuppressants. Instead, she got on the Internet and did research. At the time, her Vitamin D level was extremely low – she had no idea that was the case. She addressed that, and also completely changed her diet. It’s been twelve years since her diagnosis, and she is doing remarkably well.

    Not to claim that “one size fits all” – just sharing her experience. And of course cancer is a whole different issue – it’s surprising that your husband was told “just Vitamin D.”


  17. Kizzie @1:08: How many more people would be alive today if they had been encouraged to take safe, effective treatments that were already available?


  18. DJ – Thank you for your comment at 1:40. I keep forgetting to refrain from commenting to avoid that.

    AJ – I was not brushing it aside. My point was only that even with a seemingly low mortality rate, the fact that the virus is so contagious means that it would infect and kill more people if we were not being cautious.

    But, yes, I know that some of the rules have been near-draconian, and I feel for the business owners and employees who have been adversely affected. This whole situation doesn’t seem to have a solution that would be good for everyone.


  19. Wow… especially in light of the policewoman having just being charged in the Daunte Wright shooting.


    “The U.S. Capitol Police officer who shot dead an Air Force veteran during the tumultuous events on Jan. 6 will not be charged, the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced Wednesday.

    The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division decided jointly not to pursue charges against the officer.

    The decision came after a “thorough investigation” into the shooting of Ashli Babbitt, a 35-year-old who joined others in storming the U.S. Capitol in Washington during a joint session of Congress in January. Babbitt was shot while trying to climb through a broken window into the Speaker’s Lobby, adjacent to the House chamber.

    “Officials examined video footage posted on social media, statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses to the events, physical evidence from the scene of the shooting, and the results of an autopsy,” the DOJ said in a statement.

    “Based on that investigation, officials determined that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution.””


    “The now-former police officer who fatally shot a 20-year-old man in Minnesota on Sunday was charged on April 14 with second-degree manslaughter.

    Kimberly Potter, 48, was charged by Washington County Attorney Peter Orput.

    Potter was arrested at approximately 11:30 a.m. by Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) and later booked into the Hennepin County Jail, where she will await her first court appearance in the shooting of Daunte Wright.”


  20. Michelle – One theory about the lower flu deaths is that since the flu is not as contagious as Covid, all the precautions we have taken to avoid Covid may have kept the flu numbers down.

    According to the CDC, flu deaths for the winter of 2018-2019 were approximately 34,000, and for 2019-2020 are estimated between 24,000 – 62,000.

    Re: excess deaths last year (January thru early October 2020):

    “What is already known about this topic?

    As of October 15, 216,025 deaths from COVID-19 have been reported in the United States; however, this might underestimate the total impact of the pandemic on mortality.

    What is added by this report?

    Overall, an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19. The largest percentage increases were seen among adults aged 25–44 years and among Hispanic or Latino persons.”



  21. I find it bizarre that the people that minimize the threat posed by Covid tend to exaggerate the side effects of a vaccine. From what I know Covid has a 3% death rate. And even if you survive, it will cause long term effects on lungs and other organs. (that’s true for anything that happens to our bodies; i have arthritis in exactly the same places I broke, sprained or bruised…. right big toe, left shoulder, lower spine) So far vaccines have caused a blood clot in a few indiviiduals. I’ll take the vaccine.

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  22. Saw a FOX clip today, complaining its been 21 days since Harris held a press conference. Then I come here to see a CNN clip about making sure Trump didn’t get reelected. Not sure why anyone is surprised about media trying to influence american politics — Spanish American War comes to mind.


  23. Cheryl,

    Then do your own math. I was forced to use the slightly different CDC age groups. The math still works out as nearly the same. Do the math yourself and see.



    You are correct.



    My apologies for being so harsh. My anger isn’t at you, it’s at the horribly inaccurate (I believe intentionally) news source you used. I would hope after I explained it and did the math you can at least see why.

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