17 thoughts on “News/Politics 2-12-21

  1. https://www.theepochtimes.com/70-percent-of-republicans-would-consider-joining-trump-led-third-party-poll-finds_3693713.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-11-3

    “More than two-thirds of Republicans would join or consider joining a new political party if former President Donald Trump were to start one, a CBS News poll suggests.

    Thirty-three percent of Republicans participating in the survey, conducted between Feb. 5 and Feb. 8, said they would join a Trump-led breakaway party. Another 37 percent said “maybe” they would join the new party, while the remaining 30 percent said they would stay with the Republican Party.

    The poll was conducted among 2,508 adults living in the United States by YouGov, a London-based online polling company, with a plus/minus 2.3 point error margin. The sample was weighted according to gender, age, race and education based on the U.S. Bureau of the Census’ American Community Survey, as well as the 2020 presidential vote and registration status.

    In addition, 46 percent of respondents identified as Republicans said they believe it is “very important” for the party to remain loyal to Trump, with 27 percent saying it is “somewhat important.” Fifteen percent said the Republican loyalty to Trump is “not too important” and twelve percent said it is not important at all.”

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  2. There seems to be so many unknowns with the Capitol riot…and the lies being told astound me.
    Remember when Pelosi said this about the President? . “I plan to pull him out of there by his hair, his little hands and his feet.” If the President had said that about anyone they would have charged “incitement”…but she always gets a pass…along with Waters, Pressley, Tlaib…..
    If the left didn’t have double standards they’d have not standards at all…..

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  3. It’s all politics, which is sad when it comes to people’s lives. I remind myself that we will all have to stand before the Lord one day and he will not be impressed with our social standing, titles, money, fame or anything else.

    It does amaze me that so many think they can get away with things when videos are out there to be resurrected. However, when you have 99% of the media supporting you…

    It also reminds of when the bible says we will be judged by our own words. That should humble us all!

    i am sad when I think of all our country has squandered. by embracing evil.

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  4. Tychicus,

    And the other 20 to 30%, the Toomeys, the Murkowskis, the Dents, and the rest of the traitor wing of the party are gonna form a new party, The Feckless Cucks party…..

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/politics/republican-officials-discuss-forming-party/index.html

    “A group of more than 100 former Republican officials have discussed the possibility of forming a “center right” party due to their unhappiness with the direction of the GOP under former President Donald Trump and the likelihood he’ll be acquitted at the end of his second impeachment trial, according to Republicans who participated in the conversation.

    Former Republican House Rep. Charlie Dent confirmed to CNN that he and about 120 Republicans held a conversation last Friday about whether to form a new party or a new faction within the Republican Party that would operate independently from the GOP.

    “Clearly, there are a number of Republicans like myself and other Republican leaders, who want a clean break from President Trump, and we are kind of rallying around some core founding principles like truth and honesty, and democracy, and rule of law,” the former Pennsylvania congressman, who is a CNN contributor, told CNN’s Chris Cuomo Thursday.

    The remarkable move would exemplify how fractured the Republican Party is, but Trump still has a high approval rating among Republican voters and the two-party system has dominated the US political system for centuries.

    Reuters first reported on the Zoom call that included former officials who served in the GOP administrations of Trump, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan talking about the Republican Party’s future and the possibility of forming a center-right breakaway party.
    The call came nearly a month after the January 6 insurrection on the US Capitol, when Trump supporters attempted to stop the certification of the 2020 election, believing the false claim promoted by Trump that it was stolen from him. One week later, the US House voted to impeach Trump for “incitement of insurrection,” with 10 Republicans joining with Democrats.

    Despite the visceral presentation from House impeachment managers during Trump’s Senate impeachment trial this week, Republican senators have signaled that they will vote to acquit Trump, arguing Democrats have not made a strong case that Trump’s words led to the violent actions in January and that the trial is unconstitutional since Trump is a former president.

    Dent told CNN on Thursday that Trump is likely to be acquitted and “will not be held to account,” and he will then attempt to take down Senate Republicans who vote to convict him and the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach him.

    “That’s what I’m most fearful of now, that Trump will feel vindicated. He’ll feel like he’s been exonerated,” Dent said, adding that he thinks Trump will try to hold those who voted against him “accountable in his own perverse way.”

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    Poor little pearl clutching Dent, the Dem in RINO clothing. He was my “Rep” for years. He’s another Club for Growth stooge. Buh-bye.

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  5. Of course they did. And the media looked away, like good little lapdogs……

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/02/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nursing-home-death-data-from-feds-says-bombshell-report/

    “Cuomo Aide Admits They Hid Nursing Home Death Data From Feds, Says Bombshell Report

    “stunning admission of a cover-up was made by Secretary to the Governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders”

    “The Democrats and the media held up New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo as a national leader regarding response to the COVID pandemic Cuomo wrote a book about his leadership and received an Emmy Award for his press conferences.

    The nursing home deaths that occurred on his watch have never gotten the attention they deserve but that might be about to change.

    This New York Post report by Bernadette Hogan, Carl Campanile, and Bruce Golding is devastating:

    Cuomo aide admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn’t find out

    Governor Cuomo’s top aide privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19 — telling them “we froze” out of fear the true numbers would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors, The Post has learned.

    The stunning admission of a cover-up was made by Secretary to the Governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders in which she said the Cuomo administration had rebuffed a legislative request for the tally in August because “right around the same time, [then-President Donald Trump] turns this into a giant political football,” according to an audio recording of the two-hour-plus meeting.

    “He starts tweeting that we killed everyone in nursing homes,” DeRosa said. “He starts going after [New Jersey Gov. Phil] Murphy, starts going after [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom, starts going after [Michigan Gov.] Gretchen Whitmer.”

    In addition to attacking Cuomo’s fellow Democratic governors, DeRosa said, Trump “directs the Department of Justice to do an investigation into us.”

    “And basically, we froze,” she told the lawmakers on the call.

    And it gets worse.

    Bernard Condon and Jennifer Peltz of the Associated Press report:

    Over 9,000 virus patients sent into NY nursing homes

    More than 9,000 recovering coronavirus patients in New York state were released from hospitals into nursing homes early in the pandemic under a controversial directive that was scrapped amid criticism it accelerated outbreaks, according to new records obtained by The Associated Press.

    The new number of 9,056 recovering patients sent to hundreds of nursing homes is more than 40% higher than what the state health department previously released. And it raises new questions as to whether a March 25 directive from Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s administration helped spread sickness and death among residents, a charge the state disputes.

    “The lack of transparency and the meting out of bits of important data has undermined our ability to both recognize the scope and severity of what’s going on” and address it, said Richard Mollot, the executive director of the Long Term Care Community Coalition, a residents advocacy group.”

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  6. They should indeed….

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  7. There was another fact-check from The Dispatch that I almost shared. But I know that some of you don’t like The Dispatch, especially because Never-Trumper David French is associated with it. And apparently fact-checks are BS.

    (Btw, it said that Biden is wrong in saying that raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour would not hurt the economy. But that must just be more of that fact-checking BS, right? 😀 )

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  8. Yep, and plenty fall for it.

    “IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS APPEAL TO SENATORS’ EMOTIONS, NOT THEIR REASON”

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/impeachment-managers-appeal-to-senators-emotions-not-their-reason.php

    “Where is the evidence that Trump advocated or desired the rioting that took place? It’s not in the House impeachment article. That document focuses solely on Trump’s claims that he won the election and won it in a landslide — claims he had an absolute right in a free country to voice — and his statement that Americans need to “fight like hell” to keep their country.

    Is there a member of the Senate who has not urged supporters to “fight” vigorously for a cause or on his/her behalf? I doubt it.

    The impeachment article relies on the “context” of Trump’s statement about fighting. The reliance is understandable, given the weak to nonexistent support Trump’s actual statement provides. But when scrutinized, the context further weakens the House managers’ argument.

    Charles Kesler demonstrates this in an excellent article about impeachment and the future of Trumpism. Kesler focuses on the full speech Trump delivered on the fateful day. He writes:

    If Trump’s speech has a political target, it’s the “weak Republicans” who acquiesce in election fraud and will not fight in the trenches alongside him—the “Liz Cheneys of the world,” as he calls them. . . “We’ve got to get rid of them,” he says.

    He specifies how that should be done: “we have to ‘primary’ the hell out of the ones that don’t fight. You primary them.” Later he adds, “in a year from now, you’re going to start working on Congress and we’ve to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t any good.” A year from now means as the 2022 election cycle gears up. His incitement, so to speak, is to oppose the weak Republicans by challenging them in the normal process of American primary elections.

    In the meantime, he calls on the audience to “walk down to the Capitol” in order to “cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them, because you’ll never take back your country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong.” He adds: “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” It isn’t sedition to “peacefully and patriotically” protest, to cheer on brave legislators and boo (or in some cases, buck up with “pride and boldness”) the weak ones.

    And what if, as Trump hints is likely, the protestors are ignored and Biden receives a majority of the electoral votes and becomes president, what then? “We’re going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity.” The penalty he points to is eventual public and private obloquy. “If they do the wrong thing, we should never, ever forget that they did, never forget. We should never, ever forget.” Despite his constant, characteristic, and exaggerated appeals to strength versus weakness, his ultimate appeal is not so much to might but to a form of right, based not merely in history but in “eternity.” To know you have acted shamefully is the worst penalty, he advises, or ought to be, which is where public opinion—and the possibility of later electoral defeat—comes to bear as an external sanction against the otherwise shameless.

    This glimpse suggests how far Trump’s speech is from being a call to substitute might for right by inciting his partisans to riot. In fact, the chief business of the speech is a long, informative rehearsal of the facts behind the fraud he alleges took place in seven states. Though it has humorous moments, the statement is pretty dry, and he even apologizes for that. He wraps it up by calling for a series of changes in election laws to require voter ID and to prohibit ballot harvesting, unsecured drop boxes, universal unsolicited mail-in balloting, and the like. It surely didn’t sound like a rallying cry to trash the Capitol.

    The House’s article of impeachment quotes from the conclusion of this long section and of the address: “And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” But the context proves that the fight Trump was calling for was political and legal, not criminal. Rather than seeking to obstruct the democratic process, he was urging his followers to use it to the fullest extent of the law. In my judgment, there isn’t a word of “incitement of insurrection” in the speech.

    I agree.”

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  9. Kizzie,

    Did I hit a nerve? 🙂

    When I call one BS, I explain why it is. So spare me the faux offense………

    Or maybe that’s just your conscience convicting you for falling for them so often?

    Who knows…..

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  11. A couple of quotations for the House managers:

    “You may tell the greatest lies and wear a brilliant disguise, but you can’t escape the eyes of the one who sees right through you.”

    “The only thing worse than a liar is a liar who is also a hypocrite.”

    What a waste of taxpayers’ time and money.

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