20 thoughts on “News/Politics 6-22-20

  1. HRW,

    “From what I’ve read the Atlanta gentleman was shot in the back. Its pretty hard to shoot the police with taser when facing the wrong way. The police story … he aimed the taser at them is contradicted by the bullet wounds.”

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    What you’ve read is completely wrong.

    Watch the video. The 4 second mark. You can see the taser discharge. You can even see the officer avoid the electric barbs and see those barbs sparking as they hit the ground. He clearly fires at police while running away. While his aim was bad, his intent is clear. The DA is a hack, and the bullet wounds prove no such thing. He fired with his back to them, and that’s why he received wounds in the back. A suspect running from police while firing back at them will always be hit in the back. It’s science.

    CONTENT WARNING!!!!!!

    You may need to click the tweet and open it in a new tab to see the video due to it’s content.

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  2. So how’s that no police thing working out?

    About as well as you’d expect, if you have a brain that is.

    https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/06/21/more-than-90-people-shot-minneapolis-past-month/

    “While Minneapolis City Council members are still determined to abolish the city’s police force, residents may be having some second thoughts after a huge spike in the number of shootings in the city. On Saturday evening, twelve people were shot, one fatally, in an exchange of gunfire between multiple individuals in the city’s Uptown neighborhood.

    The violence began about 12:37 a.m. Sunday, when police responded to reports of gunfire during a large gathering of people in the 2900 block of Hennepin Avenue, according to police spokesman John Elder. He said officers arrived to find multiple victims and learned that others had left the scene in “private vehicles.”

    Several ambulances were summoned to the scene to care for the wounded. He said that detectives had been assigned to investigate the case, but no arrests had been made as of Sunday morning.

    A Facebook Live video posted by K.G. Wilson, a longtime peace activist, showed the shooting’s chaotic aftermath, with bystanders tending to several victims sitting on a curb in the popular entertainment district on the city’s South Side. The scene was awash in flashing blue and red lights. At one point in the footage, a police officer and a bystander are seen carrying an injured person to a waiting ambulance.

    According to the Star-Tribune newspaper, 19 people have been injured or killed in shootings in the city since Saturday afternoon, and more than 90 people have been shot in Minneapolis since May 26th. Earlier this month, seven people were shot during a fight that started in a north Minneapolis bar before the crowd took to the street outside.

    Minneapolis police spokesman John Elder has dismissed allegations that the police force isn’t acting as proactively as it has in the past, telling reporters earlier this week that “anybody would think that there is a stand-down order or some sort of work stoppage, that is patently false.”

    It may be false, but isn’t that what the City Council is asking for? Politicians in the city have been proclaiming that that the cure of law enforcement is worse than the disease of violent crime, and have promised that as policing disappears, peace will be restored to the city’s streets.”

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    NY? Same story….

    Unexpectedly? Only if you’re an idiot.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/report-shootings-unexpectedly-rise-as-nyc-eliminates-anti-crime-units/

    “Report: Shootings “Unexpectedly” Rise As NYC Eliminates Anti-Crime Units

    In one day: “At least 19 people were injured in more than a dozen shooting across New York City Saturday morning, the NYPD says””

    “As Kemberlee blogged earlier this week, New York City decided to eliminate its plain clothes anti-crime units. To no one’s surprise, the effort is already a disaster as shootings in the city have surged.

    There have been 28 reported incidents, with 38 victims just since Monday’s announcement.

    “The New York Post reports:

    Shootings are surging this week in New York City, with 28 incidents and 38 victims reported since Monday — the day the NYPD disbanded its plainclothes anti-crime unit, The Post learned on Friday.

    By comparison, the same week last year there were only 12 shootings for the entire week.

    In the most recent reported shooting, at 4 p.m. Friday in East New York, Brooklyn, a 27-year-old man died of multiple gunshot wounds to his torso, face and leg in front of 640 Stanley Avenue.

    A 17-year-old boy who was also shot there was in stable condition, police said.

    “This is what the politicians wanted — no bail, nobody in Rikers, cops not arresting anyone,” one angry law enforcement source said Friday.

    . . . . Members of the NYPD’s anti-crime unit were reassigned to uniformed patrol duties on Monday — part of what Police Commissioner Dermot Shea called a “seismic” shift affecting some 600 cops.”

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    Own it liberals. You built this.

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  3. I can’t believe we allow this to happen in America.

    It’s time to crack heads, make arrests, and clear out the vermin.

    This is what police deal with folks. And they were trying to get to shooting victims to render aid.

    CONTENT AND LANGUAGE WARNING!!!!!!!

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  4. They trashed the Wendy’s after the shooting. And now they’re looking for a woman with the same name as Brook’s girlfriend, a coincidence I’m sure….

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-woman-wanted-over-wendys-arson-rayshard-brooks-said-girlfriend-had-same-name

    “Woman Wanted Over Wendy’s Arson. Rayshard Brooks Said Girlfriend Had Same Name.”

    “Atlanta Fire Investigators have issued an arrest warrant for a woman named Natalie White, 29, in connection with an arson fire that destroyed the Wendy’s restaurant where Rayshard Brooks was killed by law enforcement a little over a week ago after he fired a taser at a police officer.

    “Investigators are working with the idea that a suspect in the arson fire that burned down an Atlanta Wendy’s restaurant may be linked to Rayshard Brooks,” CNN reported. “In bodycam video that police released last week, Brooks can be heard telling officers that White is his girlfriend.”

    “An arrest warrant has been issued by Atlanta Fire Investigators for Ms. Natalie White,” the Atlanta Fire Rescue tweeted. “She has been identified as a suspect in the arson fire that burned down the Wendy’s Restaurant (125 University Ave) on Saturday, June 13th. Call 404-577-TIPS or 1-800-282-5804 with any info.””

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  5. So when will the mob come for Yale?

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/all-is-fair-in-woke-and-war-shouldnt-yale-u-change-its-name-since-namesake-was-slave-trader-cancelyale/

    “All is Fair in Woke and War: Shouldn’t Yale U Change Its Name Since Namesake Was Slave Trader? #CancelYale

    You started it. Rip the name off all buildings too?”

    “If you needed any further confirmation that the radical left has lost its damned mind, look no further than the Twitter hashtag #CancelYale. This inspired piece of trolling mocks the left’s determination to destroy statues and anything else—up to and including our nation’s foundation, the Constitution—that they deem “racist.”

    I have to admit when I first saw the hashtag, I kind of smirked. It seemed so fitting, right? The mindless mobs coming for the institutions that birthed them. So I clicked over to check it out, and it was at least a million times better than I thought.

    It turns out that the genius that is Jesse Kelly, building on a point made by Ann Coulter, decided it was time to hold these rampaging, hate-fueled destroyers to their own standards. Starting with Yale.”

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  6. I would recommend anybody who has participated in the removal of a Columbus statue, be removed from this country, with the possible exception of native Americans of what we call Indian ancestry.
    By the way, who do the statues belong to?

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  7. The Atlanta video is difficult to make conclusions. I see a man running away, turn to fire the taser, miss, and continue running. The pursuing officer shoots him. Once you fire a taser and miss, the taser is useless — he’s now unarmed and was then shot. The police will claim it was the heat of the moment — a reaction to a taser being shot at him. However, he’s trained or should be trained to remain calm. He’s been trained in tasers and should be aware that its now useless. No need to shoot in this case. Teachers and nurses are frequently attacked at work yet they remain calm and normally talk the student or patient down. My expectation is the police should be able to do the same.

    The Seattle video is interesting. Obviously its biased as its released by the police who trying to justify their existence and behaviuor. Other reports I have read and seen state and show that fire, paramedics and ambulance are let into the zone without issue. The police in the video claim they only want to check on the shooting victim but that’s not their role, its the role of paramedics and ambulances. The police are not checking on a shooting victim when they are massed in that way with that gear. I was impressed with the civilians who kept the crowd and the police apart — for people with no real legal authority and equipment they are doing a fairly good job.

    Its too early to make any judgments of the disbanding of the New York anti-crime unit. Similarly the situations in Minneapolis and Atlanta is obviously a police force who are “working to rule”. A few years back in Camden, NJ the police force was disbanded and then some were rehired. Currently the crime rate has dropped dramatically. Its that type of scenario which cities like Minneapolis are exploring. Of course, this threatens the job security of many police officers, hence this attempt to justify their continued existence.

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  8. Roosevelt is an interesting case study in why its difficult to judge historical figures without context. In domestic policy especially his second term and the Bull Moose era, he’s quite the progressive. As a rough rider, in his foreign policy, and his carrot and stick approach to the Caribbean he comes across as an imperialist. I imagine him on horseback gives people the latter impression. Personally I would keep the statue up as I always see him as a progressive for his time.

    When I learned as a child that the US had a Columbus Day holiday, I was puzzled. Columbus never landed in the US so why the holiday? why the statues? And who would pay to honor a man who had nothing to do with US history? Similarly why are there statues and memorials for the losing side of a civil war, a side dedicated to the continuation of slavery.

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  9. Because in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. It helps us remember our history. It reminds us that civilization and progress are made up of imperfect people doing what is before them while living in their times. It reminds us to check our motives for the things we do. It reminds us that all of humanity is in this together, offering commonality rather than divisiveness. Other than that, I can’t think of a reason.

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  10. Guess I was wrong: to show us there is more than one opinion on how things should go and my opinion is not necessarily better than yours.

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  11. I guess the problem with the Roosevelt statue has to do with the American Indian and black person on either side of it, which is seen as racist. This brief piece has a full photo of the statue.

    “The Statue has long been controversial because of the hierarchical composition that places one figure on horseback and the others walking alongside, and many of us find its depictions of the Native American and African figures and their placement in the monument racist,” the statement reads.

    However, the museum won’t entirely be cutting its ties with Teddy, as they’ve also stated that the Hall of Biodiversity will be named after him.”

    https://ilovetheupperwestside.com/american-museum-natural-history-removing-theodore-roosevelt-statue/?fbclid=IwAR21zmM7erGxU6zwcbnUrniRdL9F-oTK6k7ZsX6HdKsZSFoht0HvmeuQq2k

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  12. Kizzie — that makes sense. As I said Roosevelt has at least two sides to him and for his time he was quite progressive.

    Mumsee — I understand (I think) what you are trying to say but is Colombus the right person to commemorate in order to understand the imperfect past? He never set foot in the US. Perhaps its best to do what New Zealand does — commemorate an event instead. For the Kiwis, its the treaty they signed with the Maori. In the US, the traditional thanksgiving somewhat serves that function but why not also commemorate the Trail of Tears or the first slave ship in 1619. These events will also help the country remember their history however imperfect. In Canada perhaps we could make National Indigenous Day a national holiday where we can remember interactions between natives and the English/French settlers. We need to stop focusing on the “great men of history” theory and look at events and social history/movements.

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  13. Agreed. We need to learn from all of history. Which is why it is good to remember the good and the bad of the characters. Here, we remember the Last Indian War of 1877 when a portion of the Nimipuu fled for Canada. I think it is very important. And it is important to understand as much as we can of all sides so we can learn from it. Horrible things happened and good things happened.

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  14. We do have a lot of memorials of that nature. The Vietnam Wall Memorial for one. Local parks tend to have some sort of memorials for various town events. Along our highways are countless historical site markers.

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  15. My sense is that they can be put into context via descriptions — rather than defaced and destroyed. I’ve always seen these monuments as historical (and that typically includes both good and bad aspects). They tell a story of a nation or a continent.

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  16. From the viewpoint of the two pieces I saw about the Roosevelt statue, they were not totally against Roosevelt, but against what that one particular statue represented.

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