36 thoughts on “News/Politics 4-9-20

  1. Still lying to the world…..


    “No New China Deaths Reported Does Not Mean No New China Deaths

    On Tuesday, NBC News trumpeted China’s apparent triumphant success in its battle against the novel Wuhan coronavirus as it prepares to lift lockdowns implemented in the Hubei province with no new deaths reported by the communist state.

    “U.S. reports 1,264 coronavirus deaths in over 24 hours,” NBC News tweeted. “Meanwhile in China, where the pandemic broke out, not a single new coronavirus death was reported.”

    “That’s big news if it’s true, but it’s not.

    Since the start of the first outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the communist regime has lied in every aspect of the crisis including its origin, silenced whistleblowers who sounded the alarm, hid crucial information from global health experts, and pushed the World Health Organization into lying about the nature of the virus itself.

    Considering the mountain of evidence to discredit China’s claims, Federalist Senior Contributor Helen Raleigh asked two weeks ago, “Why On Earth Should Anyone Believe Communist China’s Coronavirus Statistics?” “Many Chinese people, including some journalists who work for state media, simply don’t buy the government’s lies anymore,” Raleigh reports. This was before new reports emerged from U.S. entities solidifying doubts about the communist party’s numbers showing progress on the virus.

    Last week, Bloomberg News reported that a classified brief delivered to the White House from the U.S. Intelligence community charged China with fabricating its pubic figures on the virus.

    Around the same time, estimates released by the U.S. government-funded non-profit Radio Free Asia provided fresh insight on the true death toll attributable to the disease in Wuhan where the virus began. While China has claimed there have only been about 3,000 deaths from the virus nationwide, Radio Free Asia estimated using funeral home capacity and recent urn shipments in the Wuhan area that the accurate total deaths attributable to the virus lie somewhere around 46,800, dwarfing the numbers reported by the government.

    NBC’s linked article however, makes no mention of the U.S. intelligence report contradicting China’s figures or any acknowledgement of China’s malicious behavior throughout the pandemic.

    NBC is by no means alone in their omission of China’s actions.”


  2. NPR, ABC, CNN, Reuters, nearly all of the US news networks uncritically report China’s numbers as gospel. It’s gross how they allow themselves to act as propaganda agents for the CCP.

    Thankfully, there’s been some backlash for it.


    “NBC faces mass backlash after touting China’s coronavirus numbers to contrast with US”

    “NBC News faced a wave of accusations that it was doing the Chinese government’s bidding by tweeting on Tuesday that it had not reported coronavirus deaths while the U.S. saw more than 1,000 overnight.

    “U.S. reports 1,264 coronavirus deaths in over 24 hours. Meanwhile in China, where the pandemic broke out, not a single new coronavirus death was reported,” the tweet read.

    Skepticism about China’s numbers has swirled throughout the crisis, fueled by official efforts to quash bad news in the early days and a general distrust of the government. Long lines of people waiting to collect the ashes of loved ones at funeral homes revived the debate.”

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  3. Some good news, hopefully….


    “For the second time in four days, a coronavirus projection model heavily relied upon by the White House task force has been updated, again dropping the number of projected deaths and hospitalizations.

    The Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington dropped its estimated death projection on Sunday for the first wave of the pandemic to 81,766 deaths, down from 93,531.

    By Wednesday, the projection dropped the estimated total deaths to 60,415, revised down from 81,766 deaths, which was revised from down 93,531, a revised number itself.

    Moreover, the projected total hospital bed shortage decreased from 34,654 to 15,852 (a revised number from April 5), and the so-called “peak” of hospital usage was pushed up from April 15 to April 11. The peak daily death toll was also moved up to April 12, from the revised April 16 date.”


  4. Despite the media’s attempts at aiding China, the US population knows who is to blame for this, and that’s China. And it’s even true among Democrats.


    “While mainstream media outlets and Democrat politicians are busy politicizing the COVID-19 pandemic, hoping to pin the blame on Trump, a new poll released by The Harris Poll and published by the Washington Post shows Americans of all party affiliations hold China, not Trump response.

    Not only did an overwhelming majority of respondents blame China, but a majority want China held accountable for unleashing this pox on the world.

    Some highlights:”

    “And unlike the mainstream media, who have become indistinguishable from Chinese state media in messaging and tone, Americans do not find China trustworthy in the least.”


  5. Some praise for the Paycheck Protection Program which is aiding small businesses.



  6. So leave it to Democrats to try and screw up the expansion of a good thing with pork that has nothing to do with helping Americans survive this financially. Just like they did the first time around.


    “Pelosi/Schumer may stymie Payroll Protection Program expansion over unrelated new spending demands

    A replay of how Pelosi and Schumer held the original rescue package hostage.”

    “A key part of the $2 trillion rescue package was $350 million allocated towards loans to small businesses. Those Payroll Protection Progream loans would be forgivable (becoming a grant) if the small business used the money to avoid layoffs or to recall previously laid-off employees.

    The Payroll Protection Program thus serves as a pass-through to workers, who get to keep their jobs and get paid during this transition period.

    There have been complaints that the funds are not getting into the hands of small businesses fast enough, but the application numbers have been overwhelming. So much so that Trump has made clear that if the Payroll Protection Program runs out of funds, he will immediately request additional funding for that program.

    And so it is happening, with Senate Republicans moving towards a vote on Thursday to expand funding for the payroll protection program.

    But in a reprise of the demands that almost sank the original recue package, Nance Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are demaning funding unrelated to the payroll protection program in order to allow an expansion of the program.

    Politico reports:

    Democratic leaders on Wednesday released their own set of demands for an “interim” coronavirus relief package poised to move through Congress this week, setting up a clash with congressional Republicans that threatens to stall the next installment of relief for the economy.

    The early morning statement from Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) asking for $250 billion in aid for hospitals and state and local governments plus the $250 billion desired by the Trump administration and Senate Republicans shows that the quick GOP push may be a messy affair.

    The Senate Republican majority is planning to try and quickly approve the small business funds on Thursday to replenish the dwindling $350 billion Paycheck Protection Program. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has asked all 100 senators to signal whether they would object to a quarter trillion more money for small businesses by noon on Wednesday.

    But Democrats say that’s not enough on its own….”


    Now the extra money for hospitals is a good idea, and one I’m sure the R’s would be willing to negotiate on.

    But the “aid” to state and local govts is a Trojan horse. This is an attempt to get money into the hands of Dem controlled cities and states which have already moved to include illegals in the aid, which the law currently forbids. Cali., Chicago, and other areas have already begun to use local and state money to do just that. This is a backdoor attempt to fund larger efforts.


  7. Interesting…..

    Bad news for Biden too. 🙂


    “Who is better equipped mentally and physically to handle the coronavirus pandemic?”

    Several groups of “important swing voters… all thought Trump was in better shape and had more acumen to head-off the coronavirus pandemic,” Zogby reports. Notably, both union members and urban men prefer Trump over Biden by more than ten percentage points.

    Important swing voters:

    Union members (Trump 58%/Biden 42%),
    Urban men (Trump 55%/Biden 45%),
    Weekly Walmart shoppers (Trump 57%/Biden 43%),
    Weekly Amazon shoppers (Trump 60%/Biden 40%),
    NASCAR fans (Trump 70%/Biden 30%),
    Suburban men (Trump 56%/Biden 44%), and
    Rural voters (Trump 64%/Biden 36%)
    “Some of the most vulnerable voters, such as those who lost a job recently, also favored Trump (Trump 65%/Biden 35%),” Zogby reports.

    A majority of voters in three key generational groups preferred Trump over Biden to handle the pandemic:

    Millennials (Trump 52%/Biden 48%),
    Generation Xers (Trump 53%/Biden 47%) and
    Baby Boomers (Trump 53%/Biden 47%)”


  8. More “Gotcha” journalism.

    Context? Pffffft…. not at Bloomberg.


    “‘At least pretend to be reporters’! Bloomberg News completely misrepresents Mike Pence’s remarks about food workers facing COVID19 threat”

    “Bloomberg’s own story doesn’t even support their tweet:

    “You are vital,” he said during a press conference late Tuesday. “You are giving a great service to the people of the United States of America and we need you to continue, as a part of what we call critical infrastructure, to show up and do your job.” In return, Pence said, the government will “work tirelessly” to ensure their workplaces are safe.

    Pence’s remarks came just hours after the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union that represents thousands of poultry-processing workers across the southern U.S. reported that two members at a Tyson Foods Inc. facility in Camilla, Georgia, had died from the virus. It was unclear whether they were infected while at work.”


  9. Mostly false, that’s the NY Times in a nutshell.


  10. China brings the world to it’s knees, the clowns at the UN give them a spot on the Human Rights Panel.


    “A group of Republican senators sent a letter in opposition to the appointment of China to a United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) panel yesterday. This move is just the latest example of the fecklessness of the United Nations.

    Last week, Jiang Duan, minister at the Chinese Mission in Geneva was appointed to the U.N. Human Rights Council’s Consultative Group. This panel isn’t just an ordinary one, it picks the human rights investigators of the world — including global monitors on freedom of speech, health, enforced disappearances, and arbitrary detention. The UNHRC Consultative Group is comprised of only five nations. China will chair the interview processes and help vet candidates for the UN human rights posts.

    This is crazy. At the very time that China is being held accountable for the spread of a coronavirus pandemic, it is rewarded with a seat of power at the United Nations. China routinely silences its people, brutally punishes any divergence from the Communist Party line, restricts religious freedom, and denies its people access to the free world by censoring access to the internet. Now, China is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people due to a lack of transparency about the coronavirus which began in Wuhan. China continues to lie, most recently this week claiming that there are no more deaths due to the coronavirus.

    The executive director of UN Watch spoke out about this travesty of human rights.

    “Allowing China’s oppressive and inhumane regime to choose the world investigators on freedom of speech, arbitrary detention and enforced disappearances is like making a pyromaniac into the town fire chief,” said Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch, a non-governmental human rights organization based in Geneva that closely monitors the 47-nation UN Human Rights Council, and a leader in speaking out at the UN for victims in China.

    “It’s absurd and immoral for the UN to allow China’s oppressive government a key role in selecting officials who shape international human rights standards and report on violations worldwide,” said Neuer.”


  11. Now I ask you, does this sound like the kind of people you want on the Human Rights Panel?


    “Details Of China’s Crackdown On Free Speech During The Coronavirus Outbreak”

    “According to China’s Ministry of Public Security, police investigated more than 5,100 instances of “fabricating and deliberately disseminating false and harmful information” between January 20 and February 21. The actual number as of today is unknown as are details of most of the cases. However, a group called Chinese Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) has collected information on 897 such cases between January 1 and March 26. What they found was government censorship of social media which resulted in some people having their social media accounts deleted and others being put into administrative detention.

    From our incomplete list of cases, we are able to tell that the punishments handed out by police fall largely into several types: administrative detention, criminal detention, enforced disappearance, fines, warnings/interrogations, forced confessions and “educational reprimand”. In over half of these cases, we could not find the specific punishments meted out against the “offenders.” Of the specified types of punishment, police favoured administrative detention (18.5% of the total) and “educational reprimand” (17.8% of the total).”


    “China also “disappeared” a number of independent journalists who dared to report directly over social media what was happening. The CHRD provides a list of some of these [emphasis added]

    Citizen journalist and lawyer Chen Qiushi (陈秋实) has been missing since being taken away by police on February 6. Chen, original from Heilongjiang, is a lawyer who practiced law in Beijing and became popular online after he started social media broadcasting from the Hong Kong protests in 2019. Just after the Hubei authorities announced the mandatory lockdown in Wuhan on January 23, Chen travelled to the city to report the situation on the frontline.

    Citizen journalist and rights activist, Fang Bin (方斌), has been missing since being taken away by police on February 9. Fang Bin is a Wuhan resident who began posting videos online of life and death in the epicentre of the outbreak, including one video filmed on January 25 that highlighted the overwhelmed hospitals, in which he called for unblocked, free information to combat the epidemic.

    Citizen journalist and former CCTV host Li Zehua (李泽华), has been missing since police took him into custody on February 26. Li travelled to Wuhan in February, after Chen Qiushi’s disappearance, and began to report on conditions on the ground and post videos online.
    Dissident intellectual and former prisoner of conscience, Guo Quan (郭泉), was detained on charges of “inciting subversion of state power” on January 31 and then formally arrested in February for speaking out online about the coronavirus outbreak. He is being held at Nanjing No. 2 Detention Center.”


    And this is just the tip of the iceberg. What they’re doing to the Muslim Uighurs‎ alone should disqualify them.

    Pull the funding for the WHO, and if this goes thru, pull the UN’s as well. And then kick them the heck out of the US. This is just too gross an abuse to ignore.


  12. More fake news from CNN and ABC.


    “US intelligence agencies started tracking coronavirus outbreak in China as early as November”

    “US spy agencies were tracking the rise of the novel coronavirus as early as November, weeks before that information was included in President Donald Trump’s daily intelligence briefing, a former US military official told CNN.

    While the exact date of the first report remains unclear, sources told CNN that intelligence gathered in November and in the weeks following offered multiple early warnings about the potential severity of the pandemic now surging in the US.

    Intelligence is often only elevated to the highest levels of the government once analysts and officials reach a certain threshold of confidence in their assessment. That day came on January 3, the first day the President’s daily briefing included information the US intelligence community had gathered about the contagion in China and the potential it had to spread, including to the US, according to a person briefed on the matter.

    But behind the scenes, the work had been going on for weeks, with the CIA and other intelligence agencies combing through their collection to find out what China was beginning to grapple with.

    ‘I don’t know exactly’

    ABC News reported earlier Wednesday that the National Center for Medical Intelligence, a branch of the Defense Intelligence Agency, compiled information in November warning that a new virus was spreading through China’s Wuhan region.

    A defense official denied any such report existed, telling CNN, “NCMI and the Defense Intelligence Agency spent considerable time over the last 24 hours examining every possible product that could have been identified as related to this topic and have found no such product.”
    The Pentagon also issued a statement denying the ABC News report late Wednesday.”


    Because it’s just more fake news from “anonymous” sources.


  13. By now, everyone knows China lied and is still lying. The reporting you mentioned is lazy journalism in that it just compiles info pulled from the news wire. Investigative journalism would find something different. However, the current model in the news business does not allow for time and journalism — its not that they are carrying water for the Chinese, the corporate model of journalism is to blame for the current state of the news.

    This does present a problem for White House credibility. In March some in the admin were expressing surprise saying it was worse than they originally thought and had been told. In other words, they too believe the Chinese previous to the outbreak in the US. That does meet any rational test. The US government rarely believes any data from the Chinese — economic, demographic etc. They have their own intelligence on the ground. Not withstanding the very specific denial in your posted tweet, the admin knew by early January that the Chinese were lying about the corona virus. The DIA/NCMI doesn’t deny anything other than a report in November — Trumps’s daily briefings in early January certainly included information on Wuhan. Since its established that China lied and the admin knew by January, why the late or slow response.


  14. Although it looks like the US and Canada are reaching the top of the curve and beginning to bend, I would still be wary. Heath is a state and provincial jurisdiction and in both countries the crisis is managed by governors and premiers. Canadian geography allows the provinces to go it alone with minimal cooperation outside the prairie provinces but American geography and infrastructure creates a far more integrated country and the state by state approach may lead to a game of whack a mole. Because some states are viewing it as a problem elsewhere, their social isolation rules are quite slack and testing is minimal. This may mean once the crisis is on a downward trend, it may pop up elsewhere. I’m thinking of Georgia where beaches are open, church services are taking place and testing is minimal.

    Pence’s comments viewed in the greater context of comments made by other Republicans and the corporate elite may ring hollow and uncaring by some. In March, many of the corporate elite afraid of losing money were trying to down play the crisis, the rate of infection and the mortality rate and were demanding people still continue working. Its interesting how corporate capitalism is afraid a one month shutdown will destroy — quite the fragile system if minimum wage workers need to continue to risk their lives just to sustain it. The fragility of modern capitalism should be a lesson we don’t forget from this crisis.

    The mortality rate of confirmed cases should not be understated. About 20% of all closed cases are deaths. This is not the flu as some corporate and political leaders have tried to tell us.


  15. Uncaring?

    I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

    There is nothing uncaring about his remarks.

    ““You are vital,” he said during a press conference late Tuesday. “You are giving a great service to the people of the United States of America and we need you to continue, as a part of what we call critical infrastructure, to show up and do your job.” In return, Pence said, the government will “work tirelessly” to ensure their workplaces are safe.”

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  16. The UN committees are getting worse each year. The lower bureaucrats are actually low paying jobs that most western workers pass on or treat as internships. This leaves many of these jobs available to people who view the ability to live in New York as a real pull and whose UN wages are supplemented by their home country and possibly bribes. Eventually absurd decisions are made (UN women’s cmttee with Saudi male delegates is the best/worst).

    A link you provided a while back stated we should stop this egalitarian approach of one country one seat and return to the balance of power realpolitik era. I don’t think going back is a really good idea but he does make one rethink current set-up.

    Currently the UN seats are determined like the Senate , one state gets two seats no matter the population nor economic power. Obviously a flawed approach. Perhaps a House approach where seats are determined by population would be a better approach — but then we are looking at Chinese/Indian dominated assembly. Maybe a bicameral approach?

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  17. AJ — in context of comments made by Republicans and corporate elites. Its the appearance of the economy is more important than health. Min wage workers have been told they need to get back to work. Some Republicans held up a relief bill because the relief measures would lead to some people staying home too long, Without this context, Pence sounds fine but my cynicism based on previous comments tells me Pence is saying the right things just so they will continue to work without regard to their health.


  18. I suspect we don’t know. Lot about intelligence gathering, when and where. Frankly, we shouldn’t know because we cannot put information Into a broader context outside our personal experience and understanding.

    I loved “without a need to know” for 20 years. I had a heightened awareness, I was prepared for what might come, but ignorant and therefore not tormented by the “what if’s” that have no real value.

    What difference is it when we knew about the virus? This is where we are now. Children point fingers and accuse. Adults sigh, evaluate and get on with it.

    We can sort out the proper timeline later. I suspect lots of people knew in November, but the information may very well have been classified.

    So what?

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  19. Interesting poll results you cite. They don’t distinguish by race or ethnicity, though. The polls collected by RealClearPolitics and published on Wednesday show a 4 to 8% advantage to Biden and a 5 to 10% disapproval rate. All indications are that the corona virus and his admins handling of it have had no effect on the polls.


  20. Michelle,

    I do think we need to look at timelines etc just for lessons to be learned etc. We could save that for later but that leaves time to change the narrative and poison the well.

    The current absurdity of “we didn’t know” and “its the Chinese fault, they lied” should be set straight as soon as possible. Finger pointing at the Chinese is absurd — gov’ts know they lie, that’s why they have intelligence agencies. And for some scapegoating the Chinese gov’t can’t be distinguished by scapegoating Chinese people.


  21. HRW,

    I agree with the first part.

    But the second….. no.

    Trump mentioned it first, Dems were too busy with trying to impeach him to notice. That’s a fact.

    And no one is scapegoating or finger pointing at the Chinese people. They aren’t being blamed, their govt is, and justifiably so.


  22. Once again, political agenda over helping Americans.

    Thanks for nothing Democrats.


  23. AJ

    Pandemics affect cities far more than rural areas and cities are generally represented by Democrats. McConnell is leaving out the part that Democrats want to add emergency medical aid to the cities. Just add it — its not like its not needed.


  24. I explained above why. They are using local funds to bypass the law and give it to illegals. Giving them more simply allows more law breaking from Dems in sanctuary areas.

    No thanks.

    As for the medical aid to hospitals, McConnell has already suggested legislation to do so and will negotiate with Dems. But that is completely a separate issue from helping employers keep their workers working. They can get that done without breaking the law and ensuring only citizens receive aid, as the law intended. Sorry no end arounds.


  25. Oh goody, the next breathless outrage du jour has arrived.

    From your link….

    “The new company may draw scrutiny as the Trump administration has moved to crack down on the hoarding of critical medical supplies and the sale of supplies at above fair market value. President Donald Trump issued an executive order on Monday designed to combat price gouging and Attorney General William Barr told reporters this week that the Justice Department has set up a task force to stop people from “manipulating the market and ultimately deriving windfall profits.”

    If he did something illegal, he’ll be caught.


    And he’s clearly leaving R’s in the lurch with this decision….

    “His note to the lawmakers he’d worked for was blunt, informing them that Thursday “will be my last day working for you.” It arrived right before the end of the quarter, during what is typically a hectic time for fundraisers that’s now quiet because nearly all events have been canceled.


    “He said he decided to trade in fundraising to sell medical supplies “because nobody was doing it. Because the president and the vice president were asking people to help.”

    He clearly saw a niche, and he exploited it. When Warren Buffett does it, he’s hailed as a genius, but let an R do it and it’s the worst thing ever. I mean really, Buffett and company have been out there exploiting the current bear market for gain for weeks. No outrage from the left. I’ll hold my outrage until more is known, and maybe you guys can find some proof he did something illegal. Because that’s not been demonstrated so far.


  26. Like I said….


    “GOP Fundraiser’s Coronavirus-Gear Business Puts Senate Campaigns in Tough Spot”


  27. More on them….

    It seems even Democrats are recommending these guys. The NGA (National Govs Association) recommends them. That includes all R and D Gov’s, who are the members of the NGA.

    Google isn’t hard.


    “Coronavirus Resources”

    “Blue Flame Agency/Great Health Companion

    An American company, chartered in 2020 when the crisis hit, dedicated to providing best in class service to governments, hospital systems, companies and non-profits to help America navigate this crisis. The founders, John Thomas and Mike Gula, came together to leverage their networks for the purpose of providing critical COVID-19 medical supplies from authentic licensed and certified manufacturers to millions of people around the world who need it most. “


  28. There certainly doesn’t appear to be anything illegal about what they do.


    “We provide healthcare logistics and medical supply to give doctors, healthcare systems,
    governments, first responders and citizens the tools they need to fight Covid-19 with the
    industry’s broadest product selection from hundreds of suppliers.”

    We work with hundreds of well-known global suppliers bringing customers a wider range of
    products. We work hard to ensure that we partner with the best suppliers available to
    achieve fast delivery of high-quality Covid-19 product.”


  29. I thought you could tell from my comment about fanning conspiracies would mean I wasn’t making the connection between the news items but rather its out there. Though, I do think profit taking will be over the top.

    A pandemic is not the time to worry whether a person has the right papers before they are given care.

    Pence has told CNN they need to carry Trump’s press conferences in their entirety or Fauci or Brix would not be allowed on their network. Not sure if that violates the letter of the law but certainly violates the spirit of the freedom of the press.

    Apparently the funding for COVID tests will end on Friday. A bizarre decision which will only prolong the crisis. Testing and more testing is the only way to contain the virus.


  30. No one is denied critical care in the US, regardless of legal status.

    But they don’t get to share in the benefits that taxpayers are providing.

    And Pence has already withdrawn his order on CNN.

    Trump is simply turning testing over to the states, where the testing was happening and run from to start with. Yawn.


  31. Define critical care, if it doesn’t include free tests for COVID 19 this pandemic will continue. What about migrants who are taxpayers and contribute to social security? Only 51% of Americans are taxpayers — are you going to deny benefits to the other 49%?

    Why issue it in the first place — send a chill–these ongoing battles with the media violate the spirit of the free press, an important tool for democracy to continue

    Given US geography and infrastructure a patchwork state by state is not ideal. In addition, by withdrawing testing from current pandemic hot spots you risk allowing it spread outward. Ohio which has done fairly well so far now runs the risks of asymptomatic carrier coming from Pennsylvania. Now is not the time to quit — the more tests the better.


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