38 thoughts on “News/Politics 3-30-20

  1. Trump called in to Fox and Friends.
    They talked almost an hour.
    That is one smart guy. It would have cost him a million dollars to get that much advertisement.

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  2. This guy on the other hand, like his network, is a piece of……. something I can’t say here. Just disgusting.

    Even Joe Biden to his credit won’t play this type of gutter/gotcha BS.

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  3. Wonder why it took so long to pass the relief package?

    Just ask Nancy Pelosi. Only one side ever held it up, and of course it’s not the ones the press told you it was.

    The relevant part starts at about 4:50 in, and this is what she held it up for. Again,disgusting. None of what Dems held this up for had anything to do with saving lives.

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  4. The ‘publicly airing every thought’ is one of Trump’s weaknesses. Sometimes it won’t matter much, but at a time like this one needs strong self-control.

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  5. Oh and that gun she held to their head for the Kennedy Center and their 25 million dollar? The one R’s and Trump supported just to get this passed?

    How’d that work out?

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/kennedy-center-tells-musicians-will-stop-paying-them-hours-after-25-million-bailout-signed/

    “Kennedy Center Tells Musicians It Will Stop Paying Them Hours After $25 Million Bailout Is Signed

    National Symphony Orchestra will stop receiving paychecks on April 3”

    “The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts informed members of the National Symphony Orchestra that they would no longer be paid just hours after President Trump signed a $25 million taxpayer bailout for the cultural center, according to an email obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

    Nearly 100 musicians will no longer receive paychecks after April 3, according to an email from the orchestra’s Covid-19 Advisory Committee.

    “The Covid-19 Advisory Committee was broadsided today during our conversation with [Kennedy Center President] Deborah Rutter,” the email says. “Ms. Rutter abruptly informed us today that the last paycheck for all musicians and librarians will be April 3 and that we will not be paid again until the Center reopens.”

    The email went out to members on Friday evening, shortly after President Trump signed the $2 trillion CARES Act, a stimulus package intended to provide relief to people left unemployed by the coronavirus pandemic. Congress included $25 million in taxpayer funding for the Kennedy Center, a provision that raised eyebrows from both Democrats and Republicans, but ultimately won support from President Trump. The bailout was designed to “cover operating expenses required to ensure the continuity of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and its affiliates, including for employee compensation and benefits, grants, contracts, payments for rent or utilities, fees for artists or performers,” according to the law’s text. The arts organization decided that the relief did not extend to members of the National Symphony Orchestra, its house orchestra.

    “Everyone should proceed as if their last paycheck will be April 3,” the email says. “We understand this will come [as a] shock to all of you, as it did to us.”

    The Kennedy Center did not return request for comment.

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  6. Not yet, but some of this needs to be pointed out.

    I’m tired of seeing uninformed, or misinformed people blaming the wrong folks for these issues.

    Like the end of 12:00…..

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  7. My respect for Pelosi continues to sag, when I thought it could not sag lower. But then I am reminded, we are all sinners in need of a Saviour. Pray for the people in authority. And remember, God uses them for His purposes.

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  8. I suspect that “saying everything on his mind” is part of his appeal. He isn’t scripted, like a politician, but rather is more like an everyday friend with whom you share your thoughts.

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  9. A few years ago I had a pastor who did that “everything on his mind” thing. He’d come to prayer meeting (it was a small group of us, always fewer than ten) and spend ten minutes talking about some wonderful new idea he had this afternoon, that the church could hire a counselor or the elders could have life groups in their homes or we could switch the times of Sunday school and church. He wouldn’t have run it by the elders first, and every week there would be a new idea. Over time I realized the vast majority of ideas would never amount to anything, but it gave me whiplash before I learned to ignore most of it. It was an unhelpful leadership style even for a pastor of a church of fewer than 200 people, and when you are in charge of a government over millions of people in a crisis, it is really unhelpful.

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  10. I find it helpful. I do not think my President is infallible, and it helps to hear he struggles with many of the same concerns as I have. It seems to me, it is called brainstorming. Good ideas come from that but lots of ideas that get rinsed out. He is running his ideas out there, they get discussed with some excellent minds, and the good rises to the top. As it should be.

    A lot of pastors are like that. It is why they have elders and deacons around them. The Body has many parts. Iron sharpens iron.

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  11. I suspect Trump’s Easter comment was something similar to the ‘mandatory’ state travel issue from over the weekend, in that it wasn’t a hard-and-fast deadline he’d set.

    At some point you have to know the media will take this stuff and run with it, it’s what the media always does, it’s the way it works, always has (which is why politicians need to be wise as serpents; Pence gets it, much to his credit). So it is incumbent upon office holders to weigh their words carefully during sensitive times like this. It’s not a natural part of Trump’s skills set, although I think he may be getting a little bit better at exercising some verbal control?

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  12. Cheryl & mumsee, that’s why our pastor, who used to “shoot from the hip” from the pulpit as he puts it now during his youth pastor days a couple decades ago, now works on his sermons throughout the week, printing them out in full note form (though he will elaborate on the points from the pulpit).

    His personal lesson came when he had to stop mid-sermon while preaching on Revelation, realizing he wasn’t “seeing” in the text what one of the commentators he used saw. It led to his personal 2-year study of the book and a new respect for his role as leading and teaching the flock.

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  13. As for the president, brainstorming is good but remarks made at the microphone during formal public briefings need to be made clear — is something is simply brainstorming, that needs to be stressed (strongly), or perhaps not said at that point at all.

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  14. I think he has been clear, including the Easter thing. In the briefing yesterday he said what I had thought he had meant: it was an aspiration, a hope.

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  15. Re brainstorming, it’s what staff meetings are for. But the CEO of McDonald’s shouldn’t go on television and say, “Hey, it just occurred to me that if we stop selling beef and focus on chicken and on vegetarian foods, it might get our company out of the tailspin that is worrying investors.” It’s wonderful to have a pastor who speaks openly to his elders or a manager who speaks openly in meetings and doesn’t leave those reporting to him uncertain what he’s thinking. It’s another thing entirely to brainstorm out loud to those who have no say in the decisions but who will be affected by them, and to do so the moment an idea first pops into your head.

    It’s rather like the old advice that parents should present a united front to the children. Don’t discuss in front of them why mommy thinks spanking is a good method and daddy thinks it’s cruel. Have those talks behind closed doors, work it out, and let the children hear only the final decision. (Yes, as they grow older, you might begin to help them understand how such conversations work. But don’t have the discussion in front of them.)

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  16. Mumsee, yes, he has now clarified it. But the original statement could have and should have been much clearer than it was. It hung out there for the better part of a week causing confusion and criticism.

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  17. For the record, I haven’t followed any of the president’s briefings and I don’t have enough knowledge to give specific criticism of him. But I’ve heard enough criticism of the way his leadership in this crisis seems to be seat of the pants that it reminded me of how it felt to have a pastor who led that way. There are times that “thinking out loud” is helpful, but in times of crisis, people want a confident leader who makes careful decisions.

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  18. In a nation where half the people hate him, I think it is wise to let the people know he knows he does not have all the answers but he has some of the same concerns and wild thoughts, while clearly relying on a spectrum of wise counsel. But I get your points, just don’t agree with them. Nor do I think he does it deliberately. He was a New Yorker after all and we all know how opinionated they are.

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  19. I watched one of the briefings this week and was impressed. He made his statements and then left for Pence and the experts to speak.

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  20. I think elected officials would do well to pay close attention to what their words and actions tell people. Our county emergency manager closed all the parks and beaches last Monday because we were not social distancing and obeying the spirit nor the letter of the law.

    This weekend he apparently took his family to a deserted closed beach but then foolishly posted a photo on social media. When last I looked at it, 365 people had complained on the local paper’s FB post about his hypocrisy and some were calling for his resignation.

    I see Prince Charles left quarantine after only 7 days. That was foolish–what sort of example does that set for the rest of his country and the world? Even if he is COVID-free, and hopefully that is the case, he’s showing he is better and more important than everyone else. Could he possibly be?

    When I worked as a Navy Relief budget counselor back in Medieval Times, I made sure I was willing and did live with the same suggestions I made to the people I counseled. Our financial situation was not as stringent as theirs, but how could I honestly make suggestions if I wasn’t willing to live them myself?

    We actually benefited, financially, from me following my own advice. But I could look at my clients and say, “This is what my family does.”

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  21. Agreed. However, saying he personally hopes we can get back to work as a sort of country resurrection on Easter is not the same as going to a closed beach. It is simply an optimistic thought offered to the people. Anybody who actually heard what he said and looked around would think he was overly optimistic but don’t a lot of people wish the social distancing was over? That is being human. He has also been very clear that he is relying on his advisers and they do not think exactly like he does.

    As to Prince Charles. Son in law, as you recall, was on a fourteen day self quarantine on arrival from Okinawa. Ten days into it, the Navy informed him that CDC rules had adjusted it to seven days and he needed to get to work. Perhaps they have different guidelines for different circumstances? I don’t know, it seemed odd to me as we still hear it is fourteen days.

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  22. I don’t see most of the briefings, but enough to know he’s better on some days than on others. One day a week or two back I got pretty impatient with his rambling and repeating and speculating about anti-malarial medicines, wishing he’d make way for Fauci and Birx to have their say. Sounds like Jo caught him on a better day.

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  23. When does the guy ever get a break, DJ?

    Really?

    He’s been out there for hours, every single day, multiple times a day. There’s a lot of info flying around, a lot of differing ideas too. Yes misstatements and misspeaking will happen from time to time. And that includes the president. Ari should know better.

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  24. Just sayin — he simply did not make it clear that he would rely on specific markers before making such a decision. He was asked to clarify and didn’t for some reason (until many days later). It left it hanging, and no one was very clear about what he meant. And yes, I saw the original statement, it was murky.

    I think his spontaneity is part of his appeal, linda, but there’s a time and place where that works and where it just doesn’t. Now’s not a good time for speaking off the cuff and then not clarifying even when asked.

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  25. I think he’s getting advice and is (mostly) trying to heed it. But this is not a situation that comes naturally for him.

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  26. “Mispeak?” One can and should clarify it promptly and publicly. This one was answered with more murkiness, just a restatement of what he originally said leaving many of us wondering about exactly *how* that decision or call would be made. Based on what? He never said anything about what he might (or might not) base such a decision on.

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  27. A real pastor doesn’t put his flock at risk like this. That’s the part I can’t get past. You have a duty of care, one you appear to have violated.

    Here are 2 stories, reasonable, completely inappropriate, or somewhere in the middle. you decide.

    First….

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/louisiana-church-defies-covid-19-order-holds-sunday-services/ar-BB11SYNG?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    “Pentecostal preacher Tony Spell didn’t just stand before his congregation on Sunday in defiance of the governor’s order to stay home: He leaped into the pews, paraded, hugged and laid hands on worshipers’ foreheads in prayer.

    “We’re free people. We’re not going to be intimidated. We’re not going to cower,” the Rev. Spell said from the pulpit of Life Tabernacle Church in a suburb of Baton Rouge. “We’re not breaking any laws.”

    Across Louisiana, the coronavirus has infected more than 3,500 people and led to 151 deaths as of Sunday, with one of the highest per-capita death rates in the country down the interstate in New Orleans. To limit its spread, Gov. John Bel Edwards banned gatherings of more than 50 people earlier this month and on March 22 issued a stay-at-home order.

    To comply, Catholic churches canceled Mass and switched to virtual services. Many Protestant churches did too. But some have continued to gather, with none drawing more attention than Life Tabernacle.”

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    The second. (side note) Liberty Counsel says the church took extreme measures and didn’t put anyone at risk. They will defend this pastor.

    But let’s be honest, he clearly has disobeyed Cesear and the law of the land.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pastor-of-tampa-church-that-held-2-large-sunday-services-arrested-jailed/ar-BB11VzzL?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    “The pastor of a Tampa megachurch who held two services on Sunday for scores of worshippers was arrested Monday for violating a county order requiring residents to stay at home to limit the spread of coronavirus.

    Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne, co-founder of the River at Tampa Bay Church, turned himself in to the Hernando County jail and was booked on Hillsborough charges of unlawful assembly and violating quarantine orders during a public health emergency, jail records show.

    He was booked into the jail at 2:20 p.m., records show. He was freed about 40 minutes later after posting $500 bail.

    The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office warned Howard-Browne through his attorneys church leaders not to put the congregation at risk of contracting and spreading the virus by holding services at his church, Sheriff Chad Chronister said at a Monday news conference announcing that he had obtained a warrant for Howard-Browne’s arrest.

    The Sheriff’s Office had received an anonymous tip that Howard-Browne was inviting the congregation to attend, even providing bus service to the church, Chronister said.

    Howard-Browne refused to heed the warnings and held two large services on Sunday. A livestream on the church’s Facebook page showed congregants gathered for its Sunday morning “Main Event” service, many standing shoulder to shoulder while the church band played.

    “Because of the reckless disregard of public safety and after repeated requests and warnings, I worked with our state attorney, Andrew Warren, to obtain a warrant for unlawful assembly and violation of public health emergency rules, both of which are second degree misdemeanors,” Chronister said. “Our goal here is not to stop anyone from worshipping, but the safety and well-being of our community must always come first.””

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  28. Ricky once shared a meme showing a Canadian peeking out the window eating Lays ketchup chips watching the USA. At times, its been amusing for Canadians but its no longer amusing to watch especially considering most of us have American friends and relatives (my pregnant niece is stilling working at a Grand Rapids hospital).

    I did not vote nor support my premier and prime minister. In fact I refer to my premier as Trumpian. However, I’ve been fairly impressed with both. Trudeau giving solo briefings from his house has been extremely good — says the main general points of the day and then leaves the experts and his cabinet give the details from an other location. They’ve all kept 6 feet/ 2 meters apart and reporters ask questions remotely — good modelling. My premier, Ford, has done something similar. Mind you, Ford has maintained some of his bombastic right wing populism — posting a video threatening anyone who price gouges. Despite their political and personal differences (they can’t stand each other and its often personal), they’ve worked well together. I’ll never vote for either one but both have impressive, and I will give credit.

    Trump has an essential character flaw which makes this type of leadership really difficult. He’s a narcissist. Everything needs to be about him. Instead of deferring to the experts he makes his own pronouncements often on the cuff since preparation isn’t his thing. His briefings often feature a crowded stage of experts who are quickly contradicted by Trump. His narcissism often leads him to pick fights when obviously the timing is wrong — demanding appreciation for simply doing his job is an obvious example. This often leads to an inability to work with others — esp if they have political or personal differences. His narcissism also prevented him from taking quicker action. South Korea and the US both received their first case on the same day — the difference in reactions can in part be explained by a leader more focused on the stock market and how any slowdown would affect him and his election chances.

    Its unfortunate since prior to the corona-virus, various scenarios had been practised and the US had always done well compared to other countries. It has gov’t agencies such as the CDC that are the best in the world. And yet, its been difficult to watch the bumbling, the mixed messages etc.

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  29. Watching the billionaires and corporations cry for help would be amusing to a socialist if it wasn’t for the damage to everyone else. The fact that after only a few weeks, corporations would need government assistance exposes the fragility of modern capitalism. The simple fact is the current system is not worth saving if it collapses so easily.

    The economic stimulus packages passed by various countries is the wrong approach. Trying to solve two problems at a time — health and economic — is like playing whack a mole. Focus spending on health and worry about the economy later. Pour money into health infrastructure and give a small universal basic income to help ordinary people to keep going. When the epidemic is under control, we can rebuild the economy. Of course that would mean many current corporations and billionaires may go broke but with a universal basic income no one else would be adversely affected and new corporations and billionaires will soon replace them.

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