68 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 3-24-20

  1. Another day of disappointment over how the House and Senate have acted. Now is the time to tackle the most important issue in front of you. It is NOT the time to try to tackle other issues that aren’t as pressing.
    Mr. P has a phone appointment with our mayor today to talk about setting up emergency hospitals and cooperation among various towns in the county. (Remember my county is larger than Delaware or Rhode Island) . He is excited. This is what he trained for. He has an award in the bottom of the night stand for his contribution to making Naval Hospital Guantanamo the best in the Atlantic Fleet.

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  2. PSA to those of you who do jigsaw puzzles. Great places to get them are second-hand stores like Goodwill and Salvation Army. They are usually a dollar, compared to $15 or $16 when bough new. Of course that’s no help right now since those places are all closed.

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  3. Good morning All. No idea what the weather is like out there. Dark. But I know the sun will rise!

    Linda, that is where almost all of my puzzles come from though it does not usually cost me a dollar because I get hand me downs from others who bought them at the used places!

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  4. Harris Teeter is empty. There are plenty of canned goods, etc. But they are out of milk, and salad, etc. The shelves for tissue and napkins is completely empty.
    And almost empty of people.

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  5. Pay a dollar for a used puzzle, then be disappointed when there are missing pieces. Oh well. They are a relaxing way to spend an afternoon/weekend/forced confinement period.

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  6. Was it Romans 8 Chas was bemoaning yesterday? I like Romans 8. Went back and read it again. But, like so much of the Bible, it has a lot more depth than my mind is capable of at this point.

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  7. Regarding the discussion of renters last night, in all the places I have rented in Canada, I have been in the same house as my landlord/lady. The first time I rented, which was the first time I went to the city for nursing specialty training, each floor of a big century home was a separate apartment, and I was subletting. My first sublet was in the summer, in the one bedroom basement apartment from an absentee renter. The second sublet in the same house was sharing a two bedroom apartment with another student. That became a problem when the woman I was subletting with finished her course and moved out, as the landlords tried to make me accept a couple of new tenants to share the apartment. The first one they suggested turned out to be on the run from creditors, so that fell through, thankfully. The other had a questionable backstory. I moved out after the landlords accused me of ingratitude for being uncomfortable with sharing the apartment with a woman who might well have been trafficked into the country. The story told by the man she was with was that he had married her in China, and was trying to get her into the US, where he lived, and for now, she needed a place to stay while he went home, but, oh, could he stay with her the first night. I said no, and my landlords had a conniption. My father came and got me the next day, so I never heard what happened. I had to finish my second specialty course by staying with a cousin and her family who lived in the city (the cousin has a number of children and does not live in a location easily accessible to the school, so that is why I did not originally stay with her).

    In the second and third, when I returned to the city for my degree program, I was just renting a room and sharing the kitchen and bathroom with the owner and other renters. I always kept to myself, in order to make the sharing arrangements less awkward. The landlords in my second apartment were nice, but they were a young family, and I often felt in the way as they addressed child disciplinary issues or marital disagreements. Learning to be deaf and dumb in those situations prepared me, I think, for my current living arrangements. There was a couple of international high school students living in succession in the attic room across from mine, one from China and one from Latin America. The third apartment, although the house was owned by a woman, every room was rented by a man, except for me. The men were, with one exception of an immigrant student, middle aged to elderly, and all were respectful of me, but it was an interesting experience, the closest thing in the modern world to the old fashioned boarding house.

    Technically, I was renting in West Africa, as part of my support paid for my rent. In my first house, there were three bedrooms, and I shared it with two short termers, one from Germany, the other from Brazil. The one from Germany had actually lived for years in the country and was on loan to the team, so she and I had a few adventures together, as she knew her way around. They both ended their terms, and left me alone. When I discovered two snakes trying to share the house with me, I moved into one of the attached one room houses, with my neighbours being a senior nurse and a teacher for the children of the compound. The close proximity to the nurse meant she could knock on my window to come and help her with an after hours call, which led to some interesting experiences.

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  8. Good morning! You can tell it is spring time as the wind is howling. Guess the clothes will go in the dryer as they won’t stay on the line.

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  9. Mumsee: It was Romans 7 that I was teaching. It was Romans 8:1-2 That Ernie Watkins was reading. I also like Romans 8, but can someone explain what Paul is getting at about Israel in Romans 11:26?

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  10. I understood that two different people were described. I was just puzzled that SG’s name came up in a discussion of boarders.

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  11. Probably because moms think in reference to their children. Dads seem to think in reference to work. Back to letting Michelle explain herself.

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  12. Chas, Paul has been talking about the Gentiles being grafted into the olive tree. Romans 9:6-8 talks about how it is spiritual descent, not physical descent, that determines who are truly the people of God. Abraham is called the father of all who believe (Galatians 3:7). In speaking of Israel in Romans 11:26, he is speaking of all those who believe, Jew and Gentile alike.

    It helps to consider Romans 9 through 11 in the context in which it was written. In Acts 18, it mentions in passing, when speaking of Paul’s encounter with Aquila and Priscilla, that the emperor Claudius had expelled the Jews from Rome, demonstrating that European anti-Semitism predates Christianity. So, Paul is writing to the Christians in Rome, whom he had never met, in such a political climate. He is warning them against the anti-Semitic tendencies of their surrounding culture, by pointing out how indebted Christianity is to the Jews, and encouraging these Roman Christians to return the favour by sharing the Gospel with unbelieving Jews. Elsewhere in the New Testament, it states that Christ will not return until all those who will be saved are saved. Paul is reinforcing the calling to preach the Gospel not only to Gentiles but also Jews, before the anticipated return will happen.

    His exhortation not to neglect the evangelization of the Jews has long been ignored. While the earliest church writers, such as Justin Martyr, debated with Jews in order to give them the Gospel, later early church writers such as Augustine and Chrysosotum merely wrote polemics against them, writing about them as if they were a separate species totally alienated from the hope of the Gospel. As Europe became politically ‘Christian’, Jews were ghettoized into seperate communities, their professions limited, only allowed to continue their religion at the expense of being treated as second class citizens, and continually the scapegoat when disaster struck. Paul’s stern warning to not become prideful at being grafted into the olive tree went totally unheeded. Sadly, even after the lessons of the Holocaust, certain groups of Christians are still impressive evangelization of the Jews, by not regarding them in need of evangelization. They have, either due to extreme dispensationalism that places the Jews in a separate dispensation to Christians; or to an extreme liberalism that treats Christ as one of many ways to God; or to an extreme racism that regards Jews as genetically inferior; or to an extreme covenantalism that discount those not born into the covenant as not being of the elect, have neglected to point Jews, or for that matter, unbelieving Gentiles, to the person of Jesus Christ. But, so long as the Gospel goes unreached to those who need to hear it, so long the kingdom will go unbuilt. When the fullness of both Jews and Gentiles comes into the kingdom, then all Israel will be saved.

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  13. He lived with us for two years, Kevin, after graduate school while he sought a job. We respected his privacy as an adult to do what he liked with his time. We weren’t parenting him anymore.

    I was using that as an example of how we treat everyone who lives with us.

    Those are also, other than foreign exchange students passing through, the only young men who have lived with us as young adults. With a daughter in the house, I always felt it safer to only have young women live with us.

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  14. Comp day. Yay. The daily conference call with the editor & other reporters is starting in a few minutes. And I’m not going to be on it. Yay again.

    Cracks are appearing in Washington, it seems. Yeah, that’ll help. (sarcasm off)

    The president wavering? Maybe we need to just reopen things now? Not good, don’t just be “thinking (randomly) out loud” when a microphone appears. The nation needs a steady hand. Make a decision and stick by it already. I see the looks of angst on the task force members’ faces.

    Pelosi? Can she be given a comp day or two? These folks need to step back from their own party’s crazy agenda for the good of the nation.

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  15. True, but Trump also needs to learn to better articulate policy. Washington needs to get it together. We’ll see what the town all answers on fox bring in the next hour. I know, I’m not supposed to be paying attention to the news today …

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  16. Well Mr. P is happy. He spoke with the mayor for an hour and a half. He will most likely be the part time consultant to the City’s Emergency Manager. He has a nice binder with all of his military and FEMA certifications.

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  17. 772 cases in GA today. Thankful we have not had a large number of deaths so far. That speaks well of the good medical workers, facilities, and answers to prayers, although one hospital in south Georgia at Albany has had an unusual number of deaths and is under scrutiny by the CDC.

    I went to Publix and tried to stock up. The difficulty is that with sale items there is a limit of 2 of the item. Only 2 yogurts? I use to make my own so I will see about doing that again. I could not find whole milk yogurt when Wesley was a baby so I made it. I.Can.Do.

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  18. It is a lovely windy day here. Husband and I had a 5 mile hike and I will take a walk with neighbor in a couple of hours…lots of fresh air for me!
    Stargazer is Michelle’s son…trust me 😊
    I smile to read that Mr P will be using his gifts and talents for your area Kim and I am certain so many will be blessed because of his willingness to do so!

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  19. Kevin – When I first read Michelle’s comment, I, too, was confused. I think it was because her statement about Stargazer ran into her statement about the boarder.

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  20. Janice, good nutrition can help the body to fight an infection, but there is no miracle drug. It is a new virus. We do not automatically have an antidote. The trouble with saying this or that can reduce illness is that the public immediately thinks it is a cure, and may overdose. Take chloroquine, an anti-malarial drug that has been mentioned as a possible treatment. The study that showed a benefit was flawed. The sample size was too small to get accurate results, and the study failed to account for all initial participants (it did not follow those who had to leave the study due to the necessity of going into the ICU). But the announcement of it being a possible cure was enough to make two people drink chloroquine phosphate, a highly poisonous disinfecting compound, and one died. Chloroquine, even in its medicinal form, is a dangerous drug – most anti-malarials are – and should not be taken without a prescription. Vitamin D, as a fat soluble vitamin, can be overdosed on as well, causing liver and kidney damage. There is a reason the healthcare community is cagey about declaring something to be beneficial during an outbreak.

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  21. Roscuro, nobody made them take it, that was an ill informed choice. It was said there was potential and it was said not to take the fish tank product.

    Some people, out of desperation, will try strange things: bleach water, blow dryers, silver…..

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  22. I prayed about Mr. P’s interview. So pleased at the promising result and such a wise use for the community of an experienced resource.

    DJ broke the story about COVID-19 patients being moved to LA hotels. We’d heard about the plan last weekend.
    https://www.dailybreeze.com/2020/03/23/san-pedro-hotel-to-be-transitioned-for-use-in-coronavirus-pandemic-la-councilmans-office-says/

    I have to say, DJ, it’s a challenge to read your articles with all the ads, etc. 😦 I know, I know, how else does the paper make money–but I usually give up on the article first.

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  23. Those of you who are my Facebook friends may have seen this article I posted last night. Evergreen is not the nursing home Nightingale works at – hers is in another town – but she knows one of the infected nurses.

    “A health care worker at a Stafford Springs nursing home where two patients have died tested positive Monday for the coronavirus, bringing the total there to nine. It is now one of the largest clusters of COVID-19 cases in the state, and it’s amid those who are the most vulnerable to it. . . .

    With nine confirmed cases, Evergreen is one of the largest clusters of cases in Connecticut. The largest is from a Westport party that was attended by 40 or more people. In the state’s town-by-town data of COVID-19 cases, tiny Stafford Springs has as many positive cases as New Haven and almost as many as Bridgeport and Hartford.”

    I don’t know if you’ll be able to see the article. I had it as a free article last night, but today it wouldn’t let me in. But the main thing I wanted to share is in the quote above.

    https://www.courant.com/coronavirus/hc-news-coronavirus-second-nursing-home-20200324-7qbid4vwkzegrllyuuewzfanwy-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0m8yyxqRgGw6_PBWMIMYE8JTcMdo5Zc2sktp3zHOFrPIfGb55a5NykqMk

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  24. Speaking of Nightingale’s nursing home, Fox Hill, they are short-staffed already, which is why she has been able to pick up so many extra shifts on top of her usual four shifts a week. She said that if nurses do start getting the virus and can’t work, she may end up working seven days a week, with maybe 12-hour shifts as well. Of course, that is speculation, but it is based on how short-staffed they already are.

    Meanwhile, I read earlier today that the governor says schools may be out until fall. 😦

    Please pray for patience and fortitude for me as I deal with Boy and other duties day in and day out, and the same, of course, for Nightingale in her working. And for Boy as well, since I’m sure this isolation will take an emotional toll on him, too.

    *******
    A little while ago, I got teary-eyed wondering how long it will be before I can see my Chickadee again.

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  25. I believe that study had only 26 persons. Our doc says that med along with zithromycin are working somewhat to help with pneumonia. Some of the more vulnerable are diabetics who also take Lisinopril.

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  26. Earlier today, X’s Mom texted Nightingale that X is going to Maine for a while, possibly for a few weeks it sounds like. So no four-hour break for me on the weekends when Nightingale works, at least for a while. 😦 I have to admit that that made me cry a little.

    X’s Mom also indicated that she would not be taking Boy herself for any visits, either.

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  27. Kizzie does that not go against their legal arrangement? So he just gets to leave and pick up whenever he wants? I am so sorry this seems to be a never ending frustration for you and perhaps even Boy. But then again, since X is so unstable this may be best for Boy…. Praying for you ❤️

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  28. Karen, Phos is correct. It may be an inconvenience to you, but the fewer contacts the boy has at this time, the better. He does not have to be sick to be a carrier.
    It could turn out to be a blessing.

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  29. I have no idea what is going on with X. He does tend to be somewhat paranoid, so we think he would be practicing social distancing. He texted me a few days ago, saying we should stock up on groceries before 6:00 that evening, and if we couldn’t, he could use his “extra food stamps” to buy us food and leave it at the top of the lane. Not sure what he meant by “before 6:00”.

    I also don’t know what is going on with the court case. Or why he is going to Maine, except that it sounds as if he thinks he’d be safer from the virus there. ???

    Isn’t it interesting that with a custody agreement, the custodial parent would be in trouble for not handing over the child at the proper time, but the other parent doesn’t necessarily “have to” take the child?

    But you’re all correct that this may be the best and safest for Boy, and possibly for us.

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  30. On one of the local Facebook pages, there was a post asking a question regarding social distancing. One commenter said that he wasn’t worried about the virus, nor apparently taking any precautions, because he figures that when it’s his time to go, it’s his time to go. I wanted to reply that this isn’t all about him, but about protecting others, but the commenting had been turned off on that post.

    Oh, the name of the page that keeps turning off commenting? The Stafford Springs Discussion Page. 😀

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  31. What a refreshing day off. I puttered, I sat on the front porch and read Scripture, I did some laundry, I cleaned the debris off the backyard motion lights which haven’t been working (and I’m hoping that was the cause), I went to Home Depot to pick up a battery for my ceiling fan remote, I put up the lighted Bethlehem Star in my front window to join in bringing back some hopeful spirit during these times in the neighborhood.

    I just feel — rested! Now to walk the doggies.

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  32. What a flurry of comments I started with my question to Michelle! Yes, Michelle, the “no longer parenting him” comment was all I needed to clarify. I had always thought he was your son, but I don’t always remember how I know the things I think I know, so I start to doubt whether or not I knew them correctly. Does that make sense?

    The video of the BBC report cracked me up. The first part was plausible and I thought it was real, until it went over the top.

    I have been in many online meetings lately with sounds or even sightings of children and dogs. In fact, https://www.facebook.com/puppersdoggos/photos/a.1015964085189475/2810278502424682/?type=3&theater

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  33. Sensor lights still not working (and yes, I did clean off the sensor, too). I think I need to “re-set” it but I didn’t see any switch on the unit itself, so would it be connected to a switch inside the garage?

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  34. Kevin- AJ checked in on the Monday thread:

    the real Aj | March 23, 2020 at 7:27 pm
    Hi all, just checking in.

    The girls seem a little better, I’m just wiped. I get up for a few minutes, and I’m tight back on the couch or in bed. No fever, no energy.

    Thanks for the continued prayers.

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  35. It’s snowing in the house!

    No, not really. The HVAC guys came and moved our heater ducts to the attic since our in-the-concrete-floor ducts fill with water so much when it rains. Now we’re getting some of the blow-in insulation coming out of the ceiling vents. Oh well, it beats vacuuming water. Now to fill the floor vents with concrete.

    Oh, and now the ducts are big enough for the heater, so it’s warmer in here.

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  36. Just did a two hour zoom for our Bible study. It was great. I found the secret to zoom. You keep yourself muted until you want to speak. Otherwise if you cough you end up on the big screen.

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