51 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 11-14-19

  1. Good morning everyone but Jo;.
    Good night Jo.
    I see that Peter is going to make me choose Gamecocks again when my mind says otherwise. I can’t bet against the Gamecocks. I’ll explain on the Peter’s Picks thread.

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  2. Good morning! It’s a fine crisp morning in the neighborhood. I really like this weather and volunteered to warm up Art’s car this morning. He does that for me some on Sundays since I leave first for church. I think this was the first time I warmed up the car for him.

    If you were planning a vegan meal for Thanksgiving, what would have to be on your menu (favorite veggie side dish)? It is a challenge!

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  3. Rkessler, glad you were able to make the arrangements needed for your family plans. Some supervisors can be downright obstinate when it comes to trying to make things work out for people. I had a boss once that did not like timeshares so he intentionally would not give me time off for our week to prove his point. We traded our week for something else. There was no other reason for him to not have given the week off. Or perhaps it could have been because when I was single he had asked me to go on a trip to Florida with him, and he said he would treat me as his daughter (yeah, right) and I said no which probably messed up his plans, so maybe that is why he said no to my plans. And, yes, he was a married man.

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  4. I came back exhausted from Indiana. I’ve been sleeping nine hours a night and still dragging.

    I also returned so busy I only got to the grocery store yesterday. Too many demands needing immediate response.

    I’m going to chat with Hill in Sicily in an hour, watch the youngest Adorable this afternoon and go to dinner with the choir tonight.

    In between, I’ll think and read more in my “Big Data.”

    Lots to think about.

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  5. Morning! It is a cool 23 degrees this morning and there is frost on the rooftops!
    Janice sweet potato casserole is a must on our Thanksgiving menu but it does have an egg in it…maybe substitute apple sauce for the egg? And of course there is always a jello salad on our table as well. Veggie casserole with either a cheese sauce or Alfredo sauce with crisp onions on top. So what is going to be your main dish if you cannot have meat?

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  6. I know it’s not Saturday, but I have a rant anyhow:
    My smoke/carbon monoxide alarm went off. I have two of them and only one sounded. So I didn’t worry. I took the alarm to the hardware store. It kept beeping along the way. It’s old. I need a new one.
    So. I bought a new one. Now I can’t see well enough to install it.
    I’ll have to get Chuck the help me.
    Getting old has it’s cost.

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  7. I would not plan a vegan Thanksgiving Dinner 🙂

    I believe that I have come down with Toddler Roomitis. Yes, that is a thing – you get sick from the littles in the toddler room about 4 – 5 days after taking care of them. Parents aren’t supposed to put their sick children in and we’re supposed to refuse them if they look sick, but how do you tell if they’ve just been crying ’cause mommy is leaving them?

    On the other hand, I was able to calm a little one year old and she eventually had a nap while I was rocking her. Mom was so very thankful. Baby was a sweetheart.

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  8. I wouldn’t have a vegan Thanksgiving, since I love turkey. But I love candied yams, and as far as I know they are easily made vegan (just use margarine instead of butter . . . though butter is actually better for you, which is why I switched to butter several years ago even though margarine is much cheaper and I actually didn’t like the taste of butter). Also a favorite salad from my childhood, which Mom decided not to make one year since it was “too much trouble,” and after that I volunteered to make it since I really like it: grated carrots with raisins, chopped apples, chopped walnuts, and mini marshmallows (optional). It doesn’t need a dressing, but if you are making it any time at all in advance, the apples will begin to brown. So you can dip the apples in olive oil or spray them with lemon juice if you are making it in advance.

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  9. When I was in high school, our football team was the Cooper River Blue Devils.
    It wasn’t really fair because it consisted of players from both North Charleston and Chicora high schools.
    OTOH Charleston wasn’t either. Charleston, at the time had separate schools for boys and girls. All the boys in Charleston who didn’t attend the Catholic (Bishop England) school went to Charleston High.
    Anyhow, the Blue Devils were a champion team. This coming Friday night they were playing the Bishopville team. I read in the paper how good the Bishopville QB was. So I made a bet with someone.
    I bet a guy $0.50 (fifty cents was a lot of money in 1948) on the Bishopville team. Blue Devils won. But all during the game, I was worried about my bet. It ruined the game for me.
    That’s the reason I never bet against my team. Since I never put money on a bet, it doesn’t matter. But as a policy, I never let my mind rule over my heart in choosing a victor.
    GO GAMECOCKS
    GO BOILERMAKERS

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  10. I am calling this mostly vegan because I am still using a few eggs. And for the moment I am still trying to sparingly use up a few things I had purchased previously that have a small amount of meat in them like chicken noodle soup.

    I love carrot raisin salad (never had it with marshmallows, Cheryl, but that sounds lovely) and I have a great holiday veggie slaw I can make. I am still studying recipes. A lot of vegan cookbooks use soy, but I have gotten away from soy. Lately I am using a lot of lima beans and Brussel sprouts since we both like those, and peanut butter. We still have our eggs fried in olive oil for breakfast. I need to find a way to get Art to like lentils which I like. And we have our old standby, Kidney Bean Salad, which Art’s mother made weekly. It is always a favorite that he will not frown at.

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  11. Wow, we only had 19 thoughts on yesterday’s daily thread. We’re more than halfway there already today!

    I think I mentioned on here that a few nights ago we had two to three inches of snow, falling in the evening and into the night, and then cold, cold temperatures, with daytime temperatures only into the teens at least one day. Well, we still had probably 30 to 40% of ours leaves on the trees–the oaks still have them, of course, but so do most of the maples and several other kinds. Some trees are completely leafless, some still have 80% of their leaves, and others are somewhere in between.

    When you have an actual snow, not just flurries, with leaves still on the trees, the results are exquisite. Furthermore, in one of my Flickr groups I had recommended the “challenge” for the week, which was basically take a photo somewhere, and then try to take a second from the exact same place and same angle at least an hour later that same day. So I kept coming into the house and then bundling up an hour later to go out again. Because I am timid about “footing” in potentially icy conditions, I actually stayed very near home (though I got some good photos from car windows when I went out with my husband). I even had my husband drive into the parking lot next to my little pond so that I could get a few photos of the pond with snow-covered trees without having to walk the sidewalks to get there. (I don’t mind walking in a few inches of snow, but sidewalks make me nervous after snowfalls, especially if it dips down into the teens after it has fallen.)

    One really delightful thing–I got lots of photos–was that the snow fell on grass that was really probably too long (being in a condo, we aren’t the ones who mow it) and on fallen leaves, and that ended up leaving a lot of air pockets. The second day those started to open up, with the snow over them blowing or falling away and leaving beautiful frilly edges (think ice crystals) and giving peeks inside to frost-covered autumn leaves and/or grass. Miniature ice caves.

    Half of the snow melted yesterday, and most of the rest should melt today (it’s supposed to reach forty), but we had two-and-a-half days of exquisite fall-meets-winter views.

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  12. For a long time I have used the extra light olive oil for baking and frying and to moisten baked potatoes for Art instead of butter or margarine. I buy butter occasionally for corn on the cob or to make cookies, but usually it goes to waste. I do like butter on bread if we once in awhile eat out at that type of restaurant like Outback (which won’t be happening now).

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  13. When I was a vegan, years ago to try to get a grip, I learned I could not eat oreos but could eat hydrox. Oreos had lard. Then there are marshmallows and jello, not vegetarian products.

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  14. Janice – Sounds like a good idea to taper off from your current habits. Even if veganism proves too tough, vegetarianism may be a good compromise. I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian (which includes eggs and dairy) during a phase in high school.

    Nightingale buys a butter that is mixed with olive oil, so even straight from the fridge, it is spreadable.

    *******
    Our temps had dipped way down the other night, catching me off-guard when I went out to the bus stop with Boy. It was also windy, which makes it worse. My pants felt cold against my legs.

    So I came in and dug out the thermal underwear. That made quite a difference this morning.

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  15. Chas, I don’t know if I mentioned it on Tuesday, but my husband and I went to an IU basketball game (playing Northern Alabama). My husband has lived in several states, but he grew up mostly in Indiana and Michigan. Indiana is a really big basketball state, and he played growing up. (He didn’t end up with a muscular enough frame to play in college, though at 6’3″ adult height and with athletic skill, he was really good as a boy–he could shoot with either hand, pass behind his back, do a lot of the moves you don’t usually see until kids are older, at least into high school.) His dad was a principal, and the staff played the students when he was in fifth or sixth grade, and my husband shot a goal from the corner over his dad’s head (his dad defending him), and the students went wild over that. Anyway, he has been an IU basketball fan for a long time, and he finally got to attend his first game.

    The other team was really good with three-point shots, and IU got off to a really slow start. Three minutes in, the score was tied at 6-6, with the other team having two three-pointers and us having six free throws (because they kept fouling IU during shooting)–no two pointers for either team. One of their men had 15 points by halftime, but by halftime we had a nice lead and never lost it, and we won 91-65. And that 15-point shooter had only two or three points in the second half. Five IU players had double digits in the game, with one having 20.

    During the game, occasionally they posted scores to other games. At halftime in another game, a little bitty team was leading Kentucky (ranked #1), and my husband was very interested in that–Kentucky is a real rival and he doesn’t like them at all. The other team beat Kentucky, and there was a roar in the crowd when the score went onto the screen, even though our own game was still in progress. (My husband and I already knew they won before the score was posted over the court, since someone close to us was tracking the other game on his phone.)

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  16. If I was making a vegan Thanksgiving, it would probably include:
    humus
    peppers
    celery
    carrots
    pita bread or injeera or naan
    sweet potatoes or yams (not candied because I would also be avoiding added sugar)
    baked potatoes (for looks, not eating)
    eggplant
    baked squash
    baked apples
    clementines
    apple cider

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  17. I didn’t know that about your husband, Cheryl, very cool.

    It’s a chilly 59 here. Rain is still appearing on the forecast for next Wednesday and Thursday. But we’ll see about that …

    A vegan Thanksgiving sounds really bleak to me. 😦 Do you have to launch into it, ahem, cold turkey even on holidays? Vegan holidays are very big among millennials in California, but vegetarianism sounds a little kinder and gentler.

    I see that yesterday’s impeachment hearings have both sides in our new parallel political realities declaring victory. Of course. I had to shake my head switching from Fox to CNN last night, the contrasting reviews of what happened were amazing. A couple days of this and most of the American people will be begging for them to stop already, just go back to work. I heard these hearings could go on until Christmas? Oy. Don’t they have to go away for a winter break or something? Maybe we could take up a collection to send them way somewhere.

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  18. School shooting this morning north of here but it’s in the territory of one or more of our sister papers — so everyone winds up getting involved in support detail.

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  19. Actually, quite a large variety of food for which to be thankful. Just not what we typically think of for Thanksgiving. But what we think does not make it the only way to eat.

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  20. While at the grocery store yesterday (finally!) I saw Jackdraw fruit. The grocer had to explain what it was and how to cook it. He said it was very popular with vegans because when cooked, it has the consistency of cooked hamburger . . .

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  21. When our younger daughter was still at home, she and a friend decided to go vegan for a month. She would put foods she wanted on the list, and I would buy them, though my husband and I weren’t eating the same way. I do typically eat quite a lot of produce, especially in summer when it’s in season. I actually do sometimes have “vegetarian” meals, but I wouldn’t want to eat that way as a matter of course. Back when I was too thin (into my early forties), I tended to avoid bread products, partly because I wanted foods with more calories. I realize now that that is probably part of the reason I stayed thin, since pastas and breads are what put the weight on! In those days I mistakenly thought it was fat that did.

    But it would be really hard to eat without eating meat and without eating grains, and I’m rather a picky eater anyway, so for me that wouldn’t be an option. I can do it for individual meals, since I like beans and can happily eat them in several different forms (just no more than two days in a row). But by the time we are doing stuff like “meat” made from vegetables, count me out. I’d rather eat my food closer to its original form.

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  22. The young vegans at the paper argue that eating “fake meat” has no appeal for them, and I can see why. I’ve eaten some “veggie burgers,” I don’t remember either liking or disliking them. In general I don’t eat much red meat anymore, but still enjoy white meat turkey (you can buy slices in the deli section at the Sprouts, great for sandwiches, salads or even just on their own — or heated up for dinner with a side veggie or potato dish. I like chicken too, but not as much as turkey.

    And I’ve definitely been adding more fish to my diet, but I’m not experienced at cooking fresh fish (I tried cooking fresh salmon on the stovetop some months ago and it was horrible), so I usually will still rely on the frozen varieties to bake in the oven or cook in the microwave.

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  23. All that you wrote sounds good to me, Mumsee. I am unable to like posts again for whatever reason. I did fast from meat for 40 days before and did not know to supplement with B12 so I did not feel quite right, but that was not totally vegan. I have fixed a dish with beets, cranberries and boysenberry jam before, but I was the only one who ate it and loved it. Art is just not open to some foods I really like. I had forgotten that marshmallows would not be vegan.

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  24. And I agree with Cheryl, the original, purest form for any food (and unadorned or, if needed, using very small portions of sauce, gravy or other add-ons) is bound to be healthier, right? When I’m ordering a turkey “dinner” out, I always stress that the gravy be “on the side” so I can use just a little on the potatoes. I hate it when they serve the meal with gravy poured over everything.

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  25. Someone has cut the fiber cable somewhere in country so they are cutting off our internet from 8 to 5 today. Leaving internet for business.
    Oh, well…

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  26. I remember a co-worker years ago making the remark about it being just cells or tissue. I thought (and said to her then) that was one of the more irrational statements I’d heard, it simply defied science and logic.

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  27. Well, Janice, my first question about a Vegan Thanksgiving was WHY? Then I gathered that you are doing this for health reasons. My personal food belief is to eat whatever I want within reason. I have often said I could be a vegetarian except every so often I would need to eat a rare plus rib eye steak. Also, I am lazy. Vegetarianism and veganism sounds exhausting. That being said, I do have a couple of agents who are vegetarian or vegan and I do try to make sure there is something available for them to eat.
    One did tell me that she had to give up being vegan because her hair started falling out–well, we all know how vain I am about my hair so I can’t be doing that.
    I do care, though, so I found you this link.
    https://www.staceyhomemaker.com/vegan-thanksgiving-menu/

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  28. AJ, sometimes I get an email with your name on it that has a link that says “For all” and it has a purple heart beside the “For all” this time. I do not open the link. It is not something you sent is it? Should I forward it to the Wandering Views email address so you can see it?

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  29. I was going to have a salad but I got a whiff of the neighbor’s spaghetti cooking while I was on the front porch breaking down the dog food shipping box. Mmmmmm. I do have a frozen spaghetti entree … I can have a salad with that maybe 🙂 Would that make it all better?

    I’m having a hard time adjusting to the early darkness this time. I think I’m noticing it more because working from home it’s dark before I can be off the clock to go out and even water or read. A year ago, I still was working out of town so by the time I made it home after a 45-minute commute in traffic, it was almost always dark, anyway, year-round, even in the summer time (twilight anyway).

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  30. I wrote 2 stories today for the weekend, one will need more done after I attend a Coast Guard ceremony tomorrow morning, but I’m in really good shape going into Friday this week.

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  31. My romantic husband just took me on a midnight date ❤ . . . to Kroger (that's a grocery store, for those of you who don't have them) . . . to use the bathrooms . . . because tree roots or something have caused plumbing problems of some sort in our unit, past 30 feet beyond the manhole cover and thus beyond the ability of the plumber who came out. (That is when it's nice that we own a condo and it won't be our expense. But that doesn't get us a working toilet, nor the three 90-year-olds who also live in this building and the 50-something man in the unit next to us.)

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  32. The bathroom in Harris Teeter is ok. So I suspect the Kroger BR is too.’
    but it isn’t really the place you want to go for important matters.

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