28 thoughts on “News/Politics 8-16-19

  1. There’s news, like the anti-Semites getting barred from Israel. 🙂

    Bibi decided to not let the squad in after it became apparent the plan was to bash Israel from inside Israel.

    Their itinerary alone is insulting to Israel.

    https://twitter.com/Harry1T6/status/1162050627599568896

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    And Bibi was havin’ none of it. 🙂

    “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:

    No country in the world respects America and the American Congress more than the State of Israel.

    As a free and vibrant democracy, Israel is open to critics and criticism, with one exception: Israeli law prohibits the entry into Israel of those who call for and work to impose boycotts on Israel, as do other democracies that prohibit the entry of people who seek to harm the country. In fact, in the past the US did this to an Israeli member of Knesset, as well as to other public figures from around the world.

    Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting the legislation of boycotts against Israel in the American Congress. Only a few days ago, we received their itinerary for their visit in Israel, which revealed that they planned a visit whose sole objective is to strengthen the boycott against us and deny Israel’s legitimacy. For instance: they listed the destination of their trip as Palestine and not Israel, and unlike all Democratic and Republican members of Congress who have visited Israel, they did not request to meet any Israeli officials, either from the government or the opposition.”

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    Take the anti-Semitism elsewhere, try Iran, I’m sure they’d be happy to have you haters visit.

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  2. So of course the lying Jew haters blame Trump. 🙂

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    But reality…..

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  3. Liars lie, it’s what they do.

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  4. If Ol’ Creepy Joe the Human Gaffe Machine is to senile for prime time, then he’s also too senile to be president.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457486-biden-allies-float-scaling-back-events-to-limit-gaffes

    “Biden allies float scaling back events to limit gaffes”

    “Allies to Joe Biden have been floating the idea of altering the former vice president’s schedule in an effort to reduce the gaffes he has made in recent days.

    The allies, growing increasingly nervous about Biden’s verbal flubs, have said it’s an approach that’s been suggested to campaign officials on the heels of the former vice president’s stumbles.

    Biden has a tendency to make the blunders late in the day, his allies say, particularly after a long swing on the road, like he had last week in Iowa. They say something needs to be done to give the candidate more down time as the campaign intensifies in the fall.

    “He needs to be a strong force on the campaign trail, but he also has to pace himself,” said one ally who has talked to members of the campaign team and others in the broader Biden World about how to move forward.”

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  5. And speaking of people who should be banned, Soros is at it again.

    Krasner is a Soros puppet who is pushing the anti-police and anti-law “reforms” of Soros.

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  6. Tlaib was offered a humanitarian visit her grandmother in Israel. But she declined the offer because it required her to agree not to push her anti-Semitic BDS nonsense.

    She chose her agenda over grandma.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/rep-rashida-tlaib-granted-humanitarian-visit-to-grandmother-but-she-rejects-it/

    “Rep. Rashida Tlaib granted “humanitarian” visit to grandmother, but she rejects it

    Had agreed not to engage in boycott activities during visit, but now she says she’s not going.”

    “Previously, Israel had indicated that notwithstanding the law, the government would exercise its discretion to allow the congresswomen into the country. The stated reason by the Israelis for the change of position was that they learned the tour organized for Omar and Tlaib was focused on incitement. It included a visit to the volatile Temple Mount, where Palestinians regularly riot against visits by Jews, and which has been used for a century to incite violence on the claim that Jews are attacking the al-Aqsa Mosque, built on top of the ruins of the Jewish Temples. The claims regarding al-Aqsa inspired, among other things, the massacre of Jews in Hebron in 1929, and the bloody Second Intifada, which killed a thousand Israeli civilians during 2000-2005.

    The tour also did not include any meetings with Israeli officials, unlike other congressional tours, and included terror-linked activist groups and a trip to the infamous Nabi Saleh, home of the Tamimi terror-supporting clan. So this was not a trip to learn, it was a trip to incite.

    That said, it’s still clear that Trump played the decisive role. Nonetheless, when announcing the denial, Israel said it would consider granting Tlaib a humanitarian exception so she could visit her grandmother who lives in a village near Ramallah, under the control of the Palestinian Authority. But such a humanitarian exception would have to include promise not to engage in the type of BDS incitement planned for the original tour.

    Tlaib made the humanitarian request with the promise that “I will not promote boycotts against Israel during my visit,” and Israel granted it.”

    “Despite having her request granted, it’s not clear if Tlaib is actually going. Her tweets this morning seem to suggest otherwise:

    Silencing me & treating me like a criminal is not what she wants for me. It would kill a piece of me. I have decided that visiting my grandmother under these oppressive conditions stands against everything I believe in–fighting against racism, oppression & injustice.”

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    Just more bad faith acts from Tlaib and company.

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  7. There’s a few things wrong with the Israeli ban that have nothing to do with ideology.

    The President through a tweet ask a foreign govt to bar congresswomen. Thus you have one American politician using a foreign power to undermine other American politicians. This lowers the dignity and independence of the American govt.

    A foreign gov’t barred American politicians from a visit. Almost every state will accept foreign delegations despite disagreements in ideology, religion, and goals. Its why diplomacy and international relations work. To bar a foreign delegation without repercussions lowers the dignity of the stare of the barred nation. Essentially, a middle rate power just insulted members of the US Congress and not only there no repercussions they were praised by other American officials. Party over country I suppose.

    Commentators have said Trump encouraged the barring to further his goal of making the ladies the face of the Democratic party. Its said to be brilliant electoral strategy. If true, thus means the President is conducting foreign policy in his own political interests not in the interests of the US.

    Put aside politics and ideology, Americans should not be celebrating this.

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  8. The Israeli offer of a humanitarian visa is an insult both to Tlaib and the US Congress. A foreign govt will grant a visa to a US congresswoman only if she gives up her freedom of speech.

    If the agenda is the problem, why not negotiate to change it. By offering a change and an opportunity to a meeting, Israel would’ve forced the ladies to respond and negotiate an agenda publicly. Israel prides itself as most democratic state in the middle east ( and they are) yet here they are afraid of two women offering different points of view. Instead of democratic they now fuel the image of a country limiting speech.

    They also demonstrated an overreaction to the BDS movement. My opinion has always been its virtue signalling university type mobvement and the boycott would do little more than hurt the Israeli and Palestinian working classes. However, the Israelis treat it as a threat to their national integrity. Must be comforting to BDS supporters to now know Israel is scared which will only encourage them to continue.

    In the end Israel not only looks bad diplomatically it also appears scared of a boycott. Major error on their part. They should’ve forced a meet and greet at the airport and then ignored the ladies.

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  9. HRW, you said, “the boycott would do little more than hurt the Israeli and Palestinian working classes” as if that hurt would be a trivial thing.

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  10. From World Magazine

    Socialist seeds
    A socialist revolution may not be imminent in the United States, but the ideology is getting a surprising boost ahead of midterm elections

    by Jamie Dean

    https://world.wng.org/2018/09/socialist_seeds

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    Three months before democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, stunned politicians by defeating a 10-term incumbent in a Democratic primary in New York, Nicanor Ochisor, a cabbie in his mid-60s, stunned his family by committing suicide in his garage in Queens.

    Ochisor, a taxi cab driver for nearly 30 years, had been dismayed by plunging profits in recent months, and his son said his father was distressed over losing significant business to the ride-sharing company Uber. Ochisor was the fourth New York City cab driver to kill himself in five months.

    Ocasio-Cortez responded to the tragedy with a tweet: “Yellow cab drivers are in financial ruin due to the unregulated expansion of Uber.”

    By late August, Ocasio-Cortez was a political star touting democratic socialism in appearances across the country, and federal records showed her campaign staffers had paid $4,000 for at least part of their ground transportation between April and June.

    The mode of transport: Uber. …

    … The Democratic Socialists of America, a primary advocacy group, offers wide latitude for political viewpoints among its members, but candidates claiming the organization’s banner haven’t called for the confiscation of private property or the imprisonment of dissenters. They talk about ideas like “Medicare-for-all” and free college for everyone interested in applying.

    But basic economics teaches that no scarce service is free, including college, and one economist estimates that Medicare-for-all would cost at least $32 trillion over 10 years. The burden for payment would inevitably fall on taxpayers—many of whom work within the free-market system that democratic socialists oppose as unfair.

    Indeed, concern alone isn’t enough for effective policies. No system in a sinful world is perfect or without abuses (including capitalism), but an impulse toward compassion by compulsion can lead down a dangerous road, including for Christians attracted to socialist ideas. …
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  11. And from the same (long, analysis) piece:

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    … Here in the United States, where a younger generation has no memory of the Cold War years and the atrocities they brought, Richards (Jay Richards, a fellow at the Discovery Institute and an expert on economics and free markets) says he’s seen young Christians attracted to socialist ideas as well. He says the appeal seems to be a valid, moral concern for the intrinsic dignity of every person: “But if you attach a very strong moral passion to a very faulty view of how economic reality works, you can end up doing a lot of damage.”

    Though many democratic socialists don’t push socialism in its purest form, Richards says it’s worrisome that socialism’s renewed popularity puts at least some voters and candidates on a trajectory toward that end.

    “That’s essentially what I think democratic socialism is. It’s a movement in which a population gets more and more accustomed to this dependency. … Rather than focusing on how we create value and wealth for ourselves and others, we focus on how we confiscate the wealth of other people,” Richards says.

    “The more the population is in that confiscatory mode, the more dangerous it gets.”
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  12. HRW,

    Hogwash.

    Why is Israel obligated to negotiate anything with these rhetorical terrorists and their anti-Israel agenda?

    Hint: They’re not, and they won’t. Smart move.

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    And I knew you’d take the standard leftist “blame Trump” stand.

    Just like you say “My opinion has always been its virtue signalling university type movement and the boycott would do little more than hurt the Israeli and Palestinian working classes” was predictable. Way to grossly understate who and what they are.

    The BDS Movement Is a Cleverly Disguised Campaign to Destroy Israel

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/the-bds-movement-is-a-cleverly-disguised-campaign-to-destroy-israel/

    “Don’t be fooled by talk of ‘social justice’ and ‘human rights.’ The movement is anti-Semitic to its core.

    Outrage ensued on social media and university campuses across America this past week when it was reported that the U.S. government had denied prominent Palestinian activist Omar Barghouti entry into the country. Barghouti had planned to come to the U.S. to promote the highly controversial Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement he co-founded.

    BDS supporters claim that they want to put economic pressure on Israel to reach agreement on a peaceful and fair solution to its conflict with the Palestinians, and their message has found increasing traction in the U.S. The controversial Democratic representatives Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have lent the movement high-profile support. The New York Times Magazine recently published a pro-BDS cover story written by a highly controversial political journalist. Altogether, 31 universities have passed BDS measures since 2015, and, since 2005, 127 such measures have been considered.

    The truth is that many of the students and activists who support the movement have been duped into thinking they’re supporting a noble cause. In fact, BDS is little more than a ploy established and run by radical anti-Semites who deny Israel’s right to exist and seek to destroy it.

    You don’t need to take our word for it: Let Barghouti speak for himself. He believes that Israel is an illegitimate state. At a 2013 event in Norway, he referred contemptuously to “self-determination for Jewish settlers in Palestine, which I categorically oppose. Never in history was a colonizing community ever allowed self-determination . . . colonizers are not entitled to self-determination.” He later went on to make his meaning crystal clear. “A Jewish state in Palestine, in any shape or form, cannot but contravene the basic rights of the land’s indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically,” he said. “Definitely, most definitely we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian — rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian — will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine.”

    Barghouti also isn’t afraid to play up anti-Semitic tropes. He has portrayed the Jewish people as puppet masters and manipulators to rally troops to his cause. He once claimed during a talk at Wayne State University that Jews “know how to bully, how to intimidate. . . . Congress is bought and paid for by the Israel lobby.” Such talk echoes Representative Omar, who in 2012 tweeted that “Israel has hypnotized the world,” and earlier this year touched off a fierce backlash after claiming that U.S. support for Israel was “all about the Benjamins, baby,” invoking the anti-Israel crowd’s favorite boogeyman, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), for good measure.”

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    More….

    Like I said….. grossly understated…..

    Perhaps you simply don’t know, but all you need do is look.

    https://canarymission.org/organization/Boycott,%20Divestment,%20Sanctions

    “Overview

    The Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement was founded by Omar Barghouti in 2005 as a self-described “Palestinian-led movement” that aims to challenge “international support for Israeli apartheid and settler-colonialism.”
    Founder Omar Barghouti has explicitly stated [00:05:53] that the goal of the BDS movement is to end the existence of Israel as a Jewish state.

    The movement has been linked to numerous terrorist organizations and received a public endorsement from the terror organization Hamas.

    International BDS organizations reportedly receive hundreds of millions of dollars and euros from foreign governments and private foundations. In the United States, the BDS movement is financially linked to American Muslims for Palestine (AMP). ”

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    “Goal To Eliminate Israel

    BDS founder Barghouti has stated repeatedly that the goal of the BDS movement is to end the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. At a 2013 “Networkers South-North” talk in Norway, Barghouti stated [00:05:53]: “Definitely, most definitely we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine.”

    The BDS movement website states one of it primary goals as being to force Israel into allowing “the right of return for all Palestinians,” which is otherwise known as the “one-state solution.”

    By 2003, Barghouti, had affirmed that the one-state solution meant “a unitary state, where, by definition, Jews will be a minority.”

    On May 31, 2009, in an interview with the anti-Israel Electronic Intifada (EI) website, Barghouti clarified that the “right of return” for all Palestinians is “the big white elephant in the room” because it “would end Israel’s existence as a Jewish state.”

    In 2009, during an Israel Apartheid Week (IAW) event in the University of Ottawa, Barghouti clarified [00:01:33] “If the refugees were to return, you would not have a two state solution. Like one Palestinian commentator said, ‘You would have a Palestine next to a Palestine, rather than a Palestine next to Israel.’”

    In 2016, Barghouti said [00:00:40] that “the need for the right of return of the refugees” was the “most important” of BDS’s stated goals.

    Links To Terrorist Organizations

    The Council of National and Islamic Forces in Palestine/Palestinian National and Islamic Forces (PNIF) is a member of the BNC Secretariat “within the national and Islamic action committee.” PNIF is also BNC‘s top constituent group on the BNC list of supporting “Unions, Associations, Campaigns.”

    The PNIF — the first signatory listed on the 2005 BDS call — is a coalition of organizations established by terrorists Marwan Barghouti and Yasser Arafat in 2000-2001, at the beginning of the second intifada, to coordinate terror attacks against Israel by Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) groups and Hamas.

    The coalition also includes terrorist organizations such the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ).”

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    Now why in the heck would Israel allow such nonsense on their own soil?

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  13. I’m not claiming that some supporters of BDS are not nefarious characters, they are but in the US its popularity is restricted to university activists. Its effectiveness is also highly questionable. Now that Israel has come down so hard on BDS, theyve embodied and encouraged the movement. They can now claim that Israel views it as threatening and effective. Counterproductive to Israel’s goals.

    I note you’ve ignored some of the implications of supporting Israel in this exercise. Party over country and personal political interests over national interests.

    I’m not the only one to view this as a mistake even AIPAC agrees with me

    https://www.jta.org/2019/08/15/united-states/how-lawmakers-and-jewish-groups-are-reacting-to-israels-decision-to-ban-tlaib-and-omar

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  14. rhetorical terrorists? How to shut down speech you don’t like. Call it terrorism not much different to claiming somebody is a racist.

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  15. Dj

    Its always puzzling to read claims universal Medicare and free tuition can’t coexist in a free market society. It does in almost all other developed free market economy. Almost all the concerns and claims made in the article have been answered by the successful implementation of social democratic policies in free market economies elsewhere.

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  16. hwesseli, I believe she discusses that difference or distinction in the piece — that the US is looking more at the “Nordic” model of (a “kinder, gentler”) form of socialism, not the kind (yet) where property is outright seized by the government. But she also points out there remain perhaps long-term problems with this trajectory. It is still relying on taking money away from some and giving the government more say and power over individuals lives.

    Interesting as I just interviewed a researcher for a homeless story I’m doing in which he stated the problem comes down to a systematic “inequality” (economic). So these theories and ideas already are pretty deeply rooted in U.S. society. It’s a process that moves incrementally.

    But is it a good thing? I think the jury is most definitely out on that one.

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  17. I missed Kevin’s comment. Its precisely bc it will affect the Israeli and Palestinian working classes only is why I don’t support BDS. It hurts the poor,lt doesn’t accomplish anything but make the liberal middle class of the west feel good.

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  18. The Nordic model has been working extremely well for over 60 years despite constantly claims by free market economists. Meanwhile the Chicago model lurches from crisis to crisis, greater inequality and a gradual decline. The stability and success of the Nordic (and Rhine) model is miles better than anything produced by Chicago.

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  19. I don’t believe it.
    I told you before how it is impossible for a person to strangle himself to death when it’s possible to take one more breath. It isn’t a decision, it’s a reflex.
    I told you before, that’s why the Roman’s broke the thieves’ legs. So they couldn’t t take “one more breath.”

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  20. I mentioned the other day that Robin Williams hung himself without fully suspending his body. Here is how it was described in a news article from the time. (For some reason, I copied and pasted the quote to an email to myself, but didn’t include the link to the whole article.)

    “The assistant eventually managed to open the door and found Williams clothed, in a seated position and ‘with a belt secured around his neck, with the other end of the belt wedged between the clothes closet door and the door frame,’ Boyd said. ‘His right shoulder area was touching the door, with his body perpendicular to the door and slightly suspended.’ “

    I cannot imagine doing that to oneself, but some people do.

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  21. I’m not sure, but can’t a person strangle himself that way while still being able to breathe a bit, and then lose consciousness, causing the body to slump and finish strangling to death?

    I’m thinking of those kids who would do the “choking game” but lost consciousness and died.

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