68 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 7-9-19

  1. Re: Space exploration.
    Peter L. @ 8:30 last night has the right idea.
    In fact, they did that with the moon. They had several Surveyor missions prior to the manned landing. Apollo 12 was a visit to the Surveyor III site.
    Today technology has advanced so that they can have mobile explorers.
    Suppose the Russians or Chinese build a base on the moon?
    Destroy their Earth support system and they are dead.

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  2. Nice shot of a blue jay.

    Heat returning here. Summer in the Midwest can be pleasant (like yesterday) or miserable (like today). Oh, well. It could be worse. We could have dog-park cold with shaky ground.

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  3. Yes sir!
    I am not sure how the interview went. I do know that afterwards I was kicking myself because I suddenly realized what the best answer to one of the scenario questions I was asked was – I’d had the awful feeling as I was trying to answer the scenario that I was missing something, and I was. They still wanted my references, so I assume I am still being considered.

    But, I have another interview, for tomorrow, in the city. This would be a temporary position in a physician’s office. Wisdom needed – I would be working closely with the physician, so it needs to be a good fit as regards ethics, personality, etc.

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  4. Summers here in the east also tend to be pretty hot and humid, although not usually as hot as the south, of course. We usually have a few heat waves (which is three days or more), with temps in the 90s and high humidity. each summer.

    Our late spring and early summer had a (sometimes interrupted) streak of a few weeks that were hot but with quite low humidity, which is unusual for us. It amazed me how warm I could let a room get without wanting to turn on the a.c.


  5. We’re on a mild summer streak here, thankfully. Marine layers & cloudy in the mornings, mild (high 70s) in the afternoons and comfortably cool (60s) at night.

    But our heat-up is probably coming, as usual, with early fall. Our hottest weather is in August-September, with uncomfortable PS stints hitting often in October and even into November. Fortunately, we do not (normally) have the high humidity much of the rest of the country experiences.


  6. Years ago, I considered what is important. Not what a man accomplishes in life so much as what he left behind. I was thinking of King Solomon, A great men. But after he was gone, chaos.
    But also, Saul of Tarsus. The only thing important about him was what he left behind.

    Ross Perot died today. A great man without doubt. What did he leave behind?
    The Clinton dynasty.
    He ran for president in 1992 (I think it was) and prevented GHW Bush from a second term. He did not really want to be president, as Trump did, but wanted to prevent his rival from a second term.
    If he had waited another four years he could have been the Republican nominee, but he, evidently, was not interested in that.
    He wanted Bush out.
    So? He split the conservative vote and Bill and Hillary became president.
    They won’t mention that in the eulogy, but that’s what he left behind.
    The Clintons.

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  7. QOD: How much is gas where you live, the cheapest?

    I just paid $3.69 and was relieved it was under $4. (Of course, that included my 20 cent discount thanks to my Safeway card).


  8. Janice’s QoD:
    I seem to be on a Canadian author binge, without consciously choosing to be:
    The Life of Pi by Yann Martel (Finished) – I read this on the recommendation of relatives. Well written and intriguing shipwreck/survivor yarn with a difference, but then towards the end, it took several twists that I thought jumped the shark. Other cons: Syncretistic religious ideas of main character, several gruesome and violent scenes.

    The Grave’s a Fine and Private Place by Alan Bradley (Finished) – I began reading Bradley’s Flavia de Luce mystery books when Eldest Niece was avidly reading them. The main character is a highly eccentric preteen girl in postwar England. Very offbeat mysteries, they distract for a short time, but I am still not sure if I really like them.

    I have also been rereading L.M. Montgomery’s books (so has my mother), enjoying again their descriptions of Eastern Canada’s beauties and the eccentric, but so very true to life, characters that populate them. It is nice to have time to just read again.

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  9. I spotted $4-a-gallon prices the other day at our local gas stations.

    Now that I’m mostly working from home, I’m not driving nearly as much, however. There are days I never go anywhere in the car.

    Ross Perot was a rather odd candidate, I recall there was even some (anti-christ?) alarm surrounding him among some Christians? My uncle and his partner were Perot supporters, had the bumper sticker on one of their cars. My uncle was a successful biz owner, his partner a doctor, both savvy investors, so my sense was that those with money liked Perot’s economics.

    Fascinating to watch the Dem party this time around with its hard-left turn. I’m not seeing any signs of moderation in that field so far.

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  10. Janice’s QoD: I’m reading a local book about 3 boys who were lost in a cave and never found. The theory is that they went into a sink hole made by heavy equipment when a highway was under construction, then buried when it caved in.

    Michelle’s QoD: $2.429 here.

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  11. Light & cheery summer reading, Peter.

    I can’t remember when gas was last under $3 a gallon around here. It truly was cause for celebration, though.

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  12. Follow-up from my yesterday’s late evening QoD:

    My husband thinks majority-rule should be the way to go with my siblings and me making decisions about my parents. Thus, because only two of us (the out-of-state ones) think Mom shouldn’t be driving, and the other three (the local softies — yes, that tone you just heard was real) don’t want to say anything to her or her doctor just yet, hubby says I should just let it go and let the three of them decide.

    I don’t want to battle with both my husband and those three siblings.

    Sigh. Can you hear my frustration? I’m to the point of tears today. Do I have to be a silent witness to a potentially destructive event in the making? Am I too divisive if I speak the things few want to hear?

    Peace at all costs can come with a heavy price tag attached.


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  13. Books I’m reading:

    1. Running Past Fifty: Advice and Inspiration for Senior Runners, by Gail Waesche Kislevitz. (Mentioned on yesterday’s thread.)

    2. The Empathy Effect: 7 Neuroscience-Based Keys for Transforming the Way We Live, Love, Work, and Connect Across Differences, by Helen Riess, MD. (Obviously, I need to read further into that book.)

    3. What to Eat When: A Strategic Plan to Improve Your Health & Life Through Food, by Michael F. Roizen, M.D., and Michael Crupain, M.D., M.P.H. (I’ve only glanced at this book so far; haven’t really started reading it.)

    4. The Happiness Curve: Why Life Gets Better After 50, by Jonathan Rauch. (I checked this book out of the library as a dare to the author to show me just how life gets better after 50. Life got worse after 50 for me; I enjoyed my 20s, 30s, and 40s for the most part. Now? I can’t wait for this decade to be over, hoping the 60s and beyond, if the Lord keeps me here that long, will be better.)

    5. The New Complete Guide to Women’s Running (Published by Runner’s World.) This is the only book on the list that I bought instead of checked out from the library.

    6. The Perfection Detox: Tame Your Inner Critic, Live Bravely, and Unleash Your Joy, by Petra Kolber. (A good book so far — I’m halfway through it.)

    7. Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer: The Definitive Guide to Buying New, Used, and Restored Pianos (Published by pianobuyer.com.) You all know why I checked out that book. 🙂

    8. STEAM: Concepts for Infants and Toddlers, by Nichole A Baumgart and Linda R. Kroll. (STEAM stands for Science, Technology Engineering, Arts, Mathematics. An intriguing title with the “A” in STEM, especially interesting to this musical soon-to-be-grandmother.)

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  14. I think gas was $2.69 the last I bought some.

    American food, in addition to your list: maybe meatloaf? That’s what’s in the oven right now, so it’s all I can think of.

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  15. I am reading Ron Chernow’s biography of Alexander Hamilton, on which the hit Broadway play is based. Although I have not seen that and have no desire to.

    I just finished reading three books about Seminex, important history in the Lutheran Church, and a significant event in the birth of the ELCA.

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  16. Chas (re perot and bush) — I spotted this: Perot received 19% of the popular vote but ultimately had little impact on the electoral-college math of that election, which was won by Democrat Bill Clinton.


  17. Morning! (It is still morning here) A fleeing blue jay up there?
    Reading- The Waiting by Cathy LaGrow
    Food for foreign teenagers- pulled pork, ribs, brats, don’t forget the baked beans….then again there is the all American spaghetti or lasagna 😊
    I think gas is 2.46 a gallon around here….

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  18. Michelle, whether you cook it or eat out, I tend to think of fried chicken as an American staple (though one I rarely eat anymore–KFC gives me a tummy ache). Also, some form of pasta: spaghetti, lasagna, or mac and cheese. But to go with all that “junk” food, a good salad. And make sure they taste things that California is known for: citrus, for instance, maybe kiwi, whatever other foods might not be readily available back home. Maybe take them to a farmer’s market, if you have such locally, and buy what attracts their interest–if I were a guest, I would love the ability to do that. (But I’m a produce-aisle gal.) Local wine?

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  19. It’s summer, I’ve been reading novels. My list on Goodreads is here: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/7222144

    I’m also reading books about the Oriental Missionary Society (research), Streams in the Desert (research), and a fantastic photo essay enormous book about Shakelton’s ill-fated trip to Antarctica during WWI. It’s all Frank Hurley’s fabulous photographs. After he survived the expedition, Hurley went on to WWI France where he took a lot of the famous photos from that war, too.

    At some point, years later, he had a mental breakdown–which is totally understandable given what he endured on the Endurance and during the war.

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  20. Our fuel is $1.17 per litre which works out to around $4.68/gallon. We have tons of gas taxes as well as the stupid, stupid carbon tax which doesn’t NOT make anyone buy less gas so does nothing for so called climate change.

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  21. QODs.
    Finishing Return of the King for the umpteenth time. I’ve been trying to read classic famous books that somehow weren’t part of my high school curriculum, but every now and then I have to go back to an old favorite.


    I have no opinion on the food question.

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  22. And from Five Thirty-eight:

    Perot ran a quirky “outsider” campaign that in many ways presaged the Donald Trump phenomenon of 2016. It all amounted to one of the most successful third-party bids in U.S. history; Perot won 19 percent of the popular vote. But, no, Perot did not cost Bush the election …

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  23. Canada’s high gas prices also help subsidize the cost of oil development, particularly the Alberta oilsands. This quote from a story on oil prices from earlier this year sums it up nicely:
    ‘The gain in operating profit in the energy sector outpaced all other major Canadian industries in the first quarter.
    ‘The manufacturing and real estate sectors were the only other major industries that saw operating profit increase, while it declined for financial, technology, wholesale trade and retail sectors, according to Statistics Canada.
    ‘Even within manufacturing, operating profit for petroleum and coal product manufacturers rose 5.6 per cent “due to higher oil prices,” the report said.
    ‘But, the government agency also pointed out that inventory levels among oil and gas companies grew in 2018. The Alberta government had introduced mandatory production cuts in December to buoy the price of Canadian oil.’ (https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-energy-oil-gas-profit-1.5148656).
    Of course, the higher the price, the more revenue in taxes for the government, meaning the government, of whatever political stripe, is not very motivated to stop the artificial jacking up of the price of oil.


  24. One point my husband made, in the conversation with me about my siblings, is that he believes that the opinion of my sibling who lives next door to our parents should carry more weight than that of the others.

    He may have a point on that. That sibling probably knows more than the rest of us do about Mom and Dad’s functioning.

    The hard thing is that that’s the same sibling who said that if we told Mom about her driving violation, she’d only deny it. Which would mean either she’d be lying or she’d be oblivious about her violation, probably the latter. I don’t think she’d lie. If she knew she did it, I think she’d say something like, “Yeah, I realized right as I went through the intersection that the light was red.”

    I don’t think my sibling is implying that she’s lying, either. He told me about once having seen our dad, when Dad used to ride bike on the highway that runs past their house, pull out into the roadway without looking if cars were coming. There was one fairly close, but not so close it wouldn’t be able to stop in time. My brother told my dad he saw him pull out without looking, and Dad said, “No, I always look both ways.”

    Clearly, Dad didn’t realize that he’d forgotten to look that time.

    My brother was implying the same thing about Mom — she probably wasn’t aware enough to realize her driving mistake.

    It scares me that she could be so confused about an area through which she’s driven for close to six decades now.

    There hasn’t always been a traffic light there, but there has been one for several years now. She drives through there regularly. How could she not know that that shoulder isn’t a driving lane? Was she flashing back to the old days when there was no signal there, and just thought she’d go around the right side of the stopped cars? Did she think they were all waiting to turn left, and the shoulder was the straight-ahead lane?

    Doing those kinds of things in a highly-familiar place (that wasn’t under construction or anything) is very concerning to me.

    Thanks for letting me process.

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  25. Seen on Twitter:

    ~ Morning drama: I can’t figure out how to make my AirPods work. And I’m about to ask some kid, born the year I finished grad school, to help me figure it out. ~

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  26. Brother just emailed. (He’s the one who lives next door to our parents.) He thinks Mom probably thought she was in a right turn lane and could drive through on a red light. (Except there’s no way to turn right — it’s a 3-way intersection, and turning right would put a person into a field. The shoulder she was driving on turns into a right-turn lane a little beyond the intersection, and he figures she was confused about where the right-turn lane started.)

    I don’t know. She’s driven through there a bazillion times. And when does using a right-turn lane ever send you STRAIGHT through a red light?

    He did say it might be a good idea for someone to ride with her to see what her general driving skills are like these days.

    The question is, are any of the local siblings going to want to give her constructive criticism on her driving if they see she needs it?

    Maybe I’ll have to be the one to volunteer to ride along with her. You can bet I’m not taking my kids with me if I do so, though.

    How would one even start a conversation like that — a licensed driver saying “I want to ride with you” when it’s been decades since the last time?

    Sorry for all the venting.

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  27. 6 Arrows, I largely agree with your husband that if the “local” children are in agreement that your parents are OK, it’s probably better to stay out of it, at least for now, and perhaps pray for safety for your mom (and other drivers) on the road, but also pray that it would be clear to all involved when it is time for her to give up driving.

    Sometimes it does take someone farther afield, so it isn’t beyond a possibility that will be others’ job someday. My sister-in-law lives closer to my in-laws than we do (and did even before we moved) and was responsible for more of the “looking after” than we were. When my father-in-law was having multiple doctor appointments every year, she or her husband would nearly always go with him. They didn’t like his driving, but weren’t inclined to rock the boat. (In fact, my husband refused to ride with his dad, but found ways around it, like volunteering to be the one to drive or parking his car behind theirs in their driveway and then saying “Oh, why don’t I drive?” or even simply driving separately. His sister once got mad that we refused to ride with him and therefore “forced” them to do so, and my husband explained simply, “I refuse for myself, and I don’t care one way or another whether you ride with him or refuse to do so, too.” After that they realized that they had that option, too.) We got the license taken away when my sister-in-law and her husband were out of town and we ended up being the ones “on duty” when Dad went into the hospital. My husband spoke with the doctor, mentioned that Dad was still driving, and the doctor told Dad he couldn’t drive anymore. (The doctor, who didn’t know him before the hospitalization, was actually shocked to hear he was still driving.) He “heard” the doctor at the time, but wasn’t happy about it. When he later forgot (because of dementia) that a doctor had told him he couldn’t drive, and was blaming it on the nursing aides who were coming to the house and was saying those aides weren’t qualified to judge, then my husband called his primary care doctor and had him put it in writing. And my mother-in-law had to show that letter a couple of times, but that worked.

    If you have the chance to talk to your mother’s doctor at some point, you might ask for an assessment on whether she should still be driving. You also might talk to your mother about what was reported (if your husband approves). It is barely possible there were extenuating circumstances, such as that the brakes got wet and weren’t going to stop the car in time, and she saw the road ahead was clear and it was safer to go on through. At the least, if she realized too late that she wasn’t going by the left-turn lane, but did realize it as she was doing it, it’s a better sign than if she was oblivious. Talking to her might give you a better idea of how “aware” she is. People do make errors of judgment, and sometimes it isn’t obvious how serious such an error is unless you know the circumstances.

    But if the three who live closest are all saying she’s OK, and your husband is saying trust their judgment, then for now you’re probably best served to keep your ears open but accept their judgment.


  28. 6 Arrows, you cross-posted with me. As to how you do the conversation of wanting to ride with her, you don’t. She might refuse or, if she accepts, she might get nervous about your critiquing her. But if you suggest going somewhere, and have her be the one to drive, you could have a natural chance to critique her.


  29. 6 I tend to agree with defaulting to the decision of the closest siblings to the parent. My baby sister is the sibling who mostly interacts with our Mother. While staying with Mom for a few days I notice behaviors that I then pass on to baby sister for her consideration. Older sister will visit Mom a couple times a month and spends 3 or 4 hours with her but she does not communicate with the two of us….it can get complicated.
    I have mentioned to Mom that she should not be driving as she has family living close by who will take her to wherever she needs to go. But, Mom says while she will no longer take friends to and fro, she needs to take her dog for a ride and she wants the freedom to go to get a hamburger if she wants. I have mentioned to her that as she drives out of the drive there are little children riding bikes and if she didn’t see them she would not forgive herself to injuring or killing a child. Not to mention older neighbors taking a walk along the walkway. She insists she is ok…but she is not and baby sister has experienced near rear ending a car due to her pushing the accelerator instead of the brake. These situations are awful…and the doctor will not issue a document stating she cannot drive….even though she had a stroke a couple of years ago…


  30. I tend to agree with NancyJill and Cheryl; as for riding with her, maybe that can be done, as Cheryl suggested, more naturally. Perhaps the local siblings might see if they can take advantage of that opportunity should they want to check things out a bit more down the road.

    I’m still waiting for a union comment to add to my story — this is a story that’s gotten so old, written and re-written over the past several months, same topic, dozens of hearings with the next one on Thursday (so this is an advance for that).


  31. 6 Arrows – Here’s a different perspective on the closer siblings matter: It could be possible that since they know that they are the ones who would have to step in and provide rides and such, not to mention having that awful conversation about giving up driving, they do not want to see how bad the situation is. I don’t mean that they are willfully ignoring it or lying, but that it is easy for them to rationalize away what seems more clear to you.

    Do you think it could be a good idea to send each one a heartfelt email restating your concerns, and also mentioning what Michelle said about liability? Then leave it in their hands. (And pray, of course.)

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  32. Kizzie, I forgot to refresh before posting, so didn’t see your comment until now.

    I’ve sent a lot of heartfelt emails to them in the last few days, including what Michelle said. Their perspective is different, though it’s somewhat concerning to them, in variable ways, depending on the sibling, regarding the traffic violation. Their conclusions about what to do (or not do) about it are just different.

    I wrote above that I’m behind with school, and one reason is because of all the back-and-forth I’ve been doing with them the last few days, and the processing of it I did with you all last night and today.

    I’m exhausted and just want to give up now. I wrote to them just now that I’m bowing out of the conversation and letting the locals decide. I’m also not going to go make my weekly visit to my parents’ this week, which I started doing with 5th and 6th Arrows last month. I need to get caught up with school, and maybe this will be a good opportunity for one of the local siblings to do their grocery shopping for them this week, and ride along with Mom under the guise of helping her load the groceries into her cart, and her car, and out of the car once home.

    I don’t know what they’ll decide. All I know is I’m just tired of making my voice heard. I’ve spilled too much ink with my siblings this week, and it hasn’t yielded good fruit. Time to leave it.

    Thank you for praying.

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  33. Exactly, Kizzie. Six, you’ve voiced your concerns–based, probably, on things they’ve said to you. They’re on site and are adults. Let it go and pray that truth will be revealed without someone getting hurt. We can ask the Lord, too, to speak to your parents since they’re apparently not listening to anyone else. 😦

    My grandfather was loathe to give up his license for the same reason; who would drive everyone? When my uncle finally dismantled the car in a way my nearly-blind grandfather couldn’t fix, it ended–and so, alas, did their social life.

    A real shame.

    Uber? I tell you, it could work if it’s available. That’s what elderly folks in my area are doing and we wish even more would avail themselves of the service.

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  34. The other thing about Uber is it could be cheaper than owning and operating a car–if one argument doesn’t work there’s always that one.

    In fact, I’ve often wondered why those with problems driving don’t just hire a taxi one day a week and run all their errands. It’s expensive to drive a car. IRS allows for nearly 60 cents a mile.


  35. 6 Arrows, where we live, AARP offers driving courses for older people so they get a discount on their insurance. If that is offered near her perhaps that could be a gentle way to let her know from taking a class if she has the normal skills of her peers? Or if she refuses the class then find out why.


  36. Taxis are expensive. The longer the distance or time, the more expensive they get. I once paid 40 dollars for a twenty minute taxi ride (that probably could have been shorter, only the driver took a ‘short’ cut).

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  37. One advantage of not driving is that I do not know the cost of gas. Actually, I did fill up the car at Sams while Art stayed in the driver’s seat when we came home from the new eye doc’s. I did not pay attention to how much it cost. As the cliche says, it is what it is. And now I am remembering that I had to ask Art to get out of the car and read the gas pump screen because my eyes were dilated and I could see little. He has trouble standing with his back troubles so that was why I was pumping the gas.

    I get to experience a lot of different drivers these days. Art still drives a bit like a bat out of Hades and my brother drives like a farmer on a tractor being very careful. I taught Wesley so he drives “just right” as Goldie Locks would say.

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  38. Taxis and even Uber could be expensive for many, I think. Such a dilemma, especially in areas where driving is almost a necessity.


  39. Carol has used something called Access out here in California — designed for the disabled or others who may qualify (you have to go in for testing and an interview process to get the card). It’s usually $5 each way but I’m not sure how many miles that covers; it’s probably mostly for close-by destinations. Eventually, Carol could never keep enough money on hand to be able to use it, though.


  40. Profit First. (Business book)
    The House on Olive Street (pleasure)
    Habits that Heal ( Sunday school/mental Health)
    I am also teaching 3 nights per week in addition to my other broker duties.
    I see the surgeon tomorrow for follow up. Not happy with my scar but realize it would be worse.
    Will need to have blood drawn for follow up with endocrinologist next Monday
    Need to reschedule dermatologist and got a notice from that other doctor that it was that time again. Got to go have the mammogram 😏.

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  41. I almost forgot to answer the question. I am currently reading Pioneer Girl: The Annotated Autobiography, Laura Ingalls Wilder’s original autobiography with tons of notes giving additional historical background and information.

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  42. That’s a lot going on, Kim. Hang in there.

    After all the cheer I’ve been spreading lately (cough cough), I’ll finish my posting today with some good news. All four of my piano students (the two girls on Monday and the two boys on Tuesday) did great at their lessons this week. A real treat for me. They are all bright spots in my week. (Well, and 6th Arrow, one of the Monday-lesson girls, is a bright spot all week.) 🙂

    Good night, sleep tight, and take care, wandering viewers.

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  43. Kizzie, I enjoyed that book, though I already knew most of what it included and it was a bit dense at times.

    I’m reading a bunch of books and not keeping good track of them. A book of short stories set in Germany, one for each year in the 20th century. A nonfiction book on dragonflies. Just finished a memoir by a man saved out of a drug-using, promiscuous homosexual lifestyle. I have something else going, too, but can’t remember what, and two or three books I’m editing or proofing with two or three more behind them (depending on how you count–I have five “active” books, but two are nearly finished and two are a two-book set). It feels like a lot of books.

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  44. Well I did forget the mention I am reading Dombey and Son. I make it a point to read a classic every summer but I actually started this one back in March….things just kind of kept getting in the way for me to focus on its completion…now I shall finish it this summer….along with my other one in progress. Although I have already read The Waiting but am reading it again with a friend to whom I recommended the book. 😊 📚


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