30 thoughts on “News/Politics 7-12-16

  1. Well this shoots down several of the narratives of Obama and BLM.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/11/new-study-police-are-no-more-likely-and-possibly-less-likely-to-shoot-at-black-suspects-than-white-suspects/

    “There’s a big footnote here, though.

    In officer-involved shootings in … 10 cities, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both of these results undercut the idea that the police wield lethal force with racial bias…

    [I]n the arena of “shoot” or “don’t shoot,” Mr. Fryer found that, in tense situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot suspects if the suspect were black. This estimate was not very precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But, in a variety of models that controlled for different factors and used different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites…

    And intriguingly, he found that the rise of mobile video did not substantially change the results in Houston. Racial gaps were about the same in years when iPhones and Facebook were prevalent and in years when they weren’t.”

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  2. Doesn’t matter what he says. They’ll just label him an “Uncle Tom” so they can ignore what he says.

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/10/riveting-post-by-black-police-officer-confronts-blm-with-raw-honesty-and-every-american-needs-to-see-it-363067

    “An African-American police officer from Florida has laid bare his heart in a powerful way.

    Pundits have been talking non-stop since a new wave of sensationalized stories about so-called trigger happy cops hit the news last week.

    Brutal reality hits officer Jay Stalien in the face every single day and he poured out his feelings on Facebook in a riveting post.”

    “Suspect- Black/ Male, Victim-Black /Male.

    I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “&%#@ the Police, I aint no snitch, I’m gonna take care of this myself. This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.

    I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again. I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy? Then my realization became clearer.”

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  3. Someone isn’t assimilating to their new home at all. And the women citizens paid the price.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/11/report-more-than-1200-women-were-assaulted-in-germany-last-new-years-eve/

    “It took days for authorities to admit that dozens of women in Cologne, Germany were assaulted on New Years Eve by immigrant men. For weeks after the story broke, the number of reported assaults kept climbing until it was in the hundreds. But according to a federal police report leaked to German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung, the nationwide tally of assaults is even higher than previously believed. The Washington Post reports:

    Authorities now think that on New Year’s Eve, more than 1,200 women were sexually assaulted in various German cities, including more than 600 in Cologne and about 400 in Hamburg.

    More than 2,000 men were allegedly involved, and 120 suspects — about half of them foreign nationals who had only recently arrived in Germany — have been identified.

    Only four have been convicted, but more trials are underway.
    The reality is that the overwhelming majority of the men involved will never be arrested, much less convicted because the police have no way of identifying them. But according to Deutsche Welle a majority of suspects were recent immigrants and that connection has not gone unnoticed by authorities:

    According to the BKA, most of the suspects came from North African countries.

    While few Syrians are thought to have taken part in the assaults, the report noted that over half of the men who are allegedly responsible for the attacks have been in Germany less than one year.

    “In this respect, there is a connection between the occurrence of the phenomenon and the strong levels of immigration in 2015,” said [Police Agency President Holger] Münch.

    The assaults have led to support for a change in German law which makes it easier to convict someone of rape. The law also specifies deportation for immigrants convicted of rape. Despite the fact that the two things are obviously linked, the German left is against making this linkage.”
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    Well of course they are, because they invited them. They just don’t want to admit the obvious, because it’s obvious they’d be blamed for opening the country up to this.

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  4. “A woman out without a man is like a piece of meat in the sun,”
    A quote from a book by a woman who was Muslim, was (female) circumcised as a child.
    She left Islam and became an atheist.
    They want to kill her now.

    I’ll check on who this was later.

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  5. You have to understand that a Muslim man doesn’t think he has done anything wrong when he rapes and uncovered woman. An infidel.

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  6. AJ – I shared a different article about that study (the one in your first post). The study also found that non-lethal force – such as being pushed against a wall, pushed to the ground, or being handcuffed (but not arrested) – was more likely to be used against black people, even higher income ones, & that blacks are more likely to be stopped by police in the first place.

    Then a friend of mine commented that he thinks the study has a sampling error, & he shared this study that counters the other one. . .

    https://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white

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  7. Walls for me, but not for the country, eh Paul?

    Ryan gets called for his hypocrisy.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/09/paul-nehlen-at-paul-ryans-mansion-tear-down-your-wall-if-you-wont-build-one-for-the-country/

    ““Today, I am calling on Paul Ryan to live under the same conditions, which he’s imposed upon our American communities,” Nehlen said. He went on:

    Paul Ryan, if you will not build a border wall for America, then I am asking you to tear down your wall. If you will not build a wall to honor the mothers and fathers of the dead, if you will not build a wall to protect our children, then, sir, you should tear down your wall and show everyone that you will live under the same conditions as they do.

    People like Paul Ryan and Mark Zuckerberg love open borders so long as they stop at the property lines to their mansions. They ensconce their families with walls and fences, but then lecture us about how we have to be more charitable. And lectures us about how America ‘is more than our borders.’

    As Nehlen was speaking, Ryan’s house was being protected by four large SUVs, a full-size van, several service agents, and a tall fence reinforced by high bushes.

    Nehlen explained that “Paul Ryan is the most open borders, pro-Wall Street, anti-worker member of Congress in either party.”

    “Can you name one time when Paul Ryan fought as hard for you and your family as he’s fought for corporate America?” Nehlen asked.”
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    I can’t. Maybe that explains this….

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/09/paul-ryan-plummets-to-43-percent-in-new-primary-poll/

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  8. Lou Dobbs is not a fan either. And he points out Ryan’s pathetic record in Congress. In 17 years he’s had 3 of his bills passed. Weak, just like his approach to securing our borders.

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  9. I was drinking with two Somali girls and out of curiosity mentioned Herst Ali. For two girls who drink heaviy, eat pork, and lead a lifestyle which would get them stoned in Somali etc., I was shocked how emotional and critical they were. They couldnt grasp that they and Ali would be viewed the same by most conservative Muslims.

    Interesting to see some conservatives finally souring on Ryan. He’s the flip side if Clinton; a corporate lackey who appeals to social conservatives where as she is a corporate lackey appealing to social liberals.

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  10. I read the article above containing the anguished words of the black cop. One thing he pointed out, though, didn’t quite make the point he wanted it to make.

    “As of July 2016, the breakdown of the number of US Citizens killed by Police this year is, 238 White people killed, 123 Black people killed, 79 Hispanics, 69 other/or unknown race.”

    So, technically we can say that cops have killed more whites than blacks, but we should look at the ratios. Blacks make up only about 13% of the population, but were 24% of those killed.

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  11. There must be a more moderate position on this whole cops, blacks, & crime issue, but I see mostly polarized opinions – blacks as innocent victims of racism vs. blacks as always guilty of something, almost “deserving” to be shot. I’ve read enough on either side of the matter to see that both sides have legitimate arguments. This is one of those no-easy-answers matters that seems to be tearing us apart.

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  12. Karen,

    “So, technically we can say that cops have killed more whites than blacks, but we should look at the ratios. Blacks make up only about 13% of the population, but were 24% of those killed.”

    But that would be misleading and would lead to an inaccurate conclusion. You must look at other numbers as well. While only 13% of the population, their effect on the violent crime stats, where police are more likely to pull a gun, are disproportional to their %. That 13% is responsible for over 30% of these type of crimes.

    Lot’s of news orgs. and social justice type folks will sell you cherry picked stats, but the numbers don’t lie.

    If you’re interested, here are those numbers. For the year 2014, the most recent I could find. They speak for themselves, and it ain’t pretty.

    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43

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    Here’s 2012 too.

    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

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  13. I understand that, but that is another layer of the issue. If the point is to say that more whites than blacks are shot by police, it should be figured by ratio, which shows that the rate of being shot by police is higher for blacks than for whites. (I’m not arguing against the crime statistics, but merely pointing out that that one point was off.)

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  14. http://blog.acton.org/archives/87895-who-is-theresa-may.html

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    A true feminist, a devout Christian, and a leader with common sense will soon move into 10 Downing Street.

    As excitement—and dismay—surrounded Britain’s decision to leave the European Union, Remainer and (former) prime minister, David Cameron announced his resignation from British parliament’s highest position. Today he officially leaves office, allowing Theresa May to become the next British Prime Minister. …
    __________________________________

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  15. I like Paul Ryan more because he only had three bills passed. I would like him even more if he had zero bills passed. Virtually every law passed since 1963 has made things worse.

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  16. Far from being a “corporate lackey” like Clinton or an ignorant buffoon like Trump, Ryan has not been afraid to take on the most powerful special interests. His plan to turn Medicare into a voucher program angered the docs, hospitals, big Pharma and the AARP. This plan which could have kept the Medicare Ponzi scheme solvent without subsidies from general revenue was attacked by both Democrats as well as the cowardly Trumpkin Gingrich. Ryan is the true heir of Kemp who was the true heir of Reagan. The Bushes were the heirs of Rockafeller (sp?) and Nixon. Trump is the heir of Huey Long and Mussolini.

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  17. Donna J, The cutoff for movies is January 1, 1960. The cutoff for legislation is November 22, 1963. Everything LBJ did was bad, and he did a lot.

    Among the exceptions to my rule were Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts, Reagan’s 1981 budget cuts and Reagan’s 1986 tax reform bill. I would repeal everything signed by every president other than Ronnie since 11/22/63.

    Think about it: No Medicaid, no Depts of Education, Energy, Homeland Security. No Medicare, no Obamacare, no affirmative action. No EPA. Very few welfare programs for persons or businesses. Very few tax subsidies (Reagan’s 1986 tax reform bill wiped them out).

    We can dream.

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  18. If we’re going to use statistics to prove or disprove racism, wouldn’t we need to know the race of the policemen doing the killing?

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  19. Linda – I just read some statistics about that.

    “Black officers account for a little more than 10 percent of all fatal police shootings. Of those they kill, though, 78 percent were black.”

    That was from the article I shared above earlier today.

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  20. Karen,

    ” If the point is to say that more whites than blacks are shot by police, it should be figured by ratio, which shows that the rate of being shot by police is higher for blacks than for whites. (I’m not arguing against the crime statistics, but merely pointing out that that one point was off.)”

    But it’s not off. Of course it’s higher. They commit more violent crimes, and it’s more likely that the police would use guns when apprehending/coming into contact with them as well. When a group commits certain crimes at a disproportional rate to their % of the population, of course they’re more likely to die at the hands of police.

    But that’s never addressed. Instead they use the numbers to indict police, when in reality it’s an indictment of the black community and the fact they they just commit more of these types of crimes. They put themselves in a bad position, and the police as well.

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  21. And this proves that point…..

    ““Black officers account for a little more than 10 percent of all fatal police shootings. Of those they kill, though, 78 percent were black.”

    Again, they’re more likely to come into contact with black suspects than white.because of the disproportional number of crimes those black suspects commit. Or are we simply to believe that those black officers are racist too? I don’t think so.

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  22. That should read….

    Again, they’re as likely to come into contact with black suspects as white because of the disproportional number of crimes those black suspects commit.

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  23. From Karen’s post: “There must be a more moderate position on this whole cops, blacks, & crime issue, but I see mostly polarized opinions – blacks as innocent victims of racism vs. blacks as always guilty of something, almost “deserving” to be shot. I’ve read enough on either side of the matter to see that both sides have legitimate arguments. This is one of those no-easy-answers matters that seems to be tearing us apart.”

    Yes. That’s what both President’s Bush and Obama were saying yesterday. The biggest issue is our collective inability to discuss both disparities in treatment and burdens placed on police in the first place as well as police training issue. Our country needs to grapple with both problems honestly. I don’t think data driven solutions — i.e. the new study will help, because the perception is that there is disparity of treatment — that issue must be addressed or we will stumble toward the riots of 68. By the same token the notion that police are there too help needs to be fortified by leadership and the mediia with the hundreds and hundreds of stories when the police do help.

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  24. AJ – I think you & I agree, but you are maybe misunderstanding my point? We both agree that blacks are shot by police proportionally more than whites. I wasn’t arguing about the reasons for that. My only point was that the article about the black cop contained that one particular statistic, & seemed to be trying to say that more whites are shot by cops. Yes, numerically that is true, but not when we consider the ratios. That was my only point. I understand what you are saying about them coming into contact more.

    As for if black cops can be racist. . .I have read that many people say the system is racist, & therefore cops in general can have a racist bent. Not saying I agree or disagree, this is just a theory that I have read. I think people are people – some are racist, some are not, & yes, I think even some black cops could feel something like racism towards other blacks.

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  25. Hi AJ! I wanted to pop in and discuss this issue – I think it is one one on which common ground can be found and must be found.

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