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” … I don’t know if fights like this win you anything, but the pushback was deserved, and instructive for future moderators: Be tough, incisive, follow up, dig down. But don’t be a high-handed snot, don’t wear your bias on your sleeve. That helps nothing. Don’t you get that? …”
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She also memorialized Jeb’s campaign — he’s simply not a good candidate and I suspect he’ll be out of this race in a few months at the most:
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” … He’s not good at the merry aggression of national politics. He never had an obvious broad base within the party. He seemed to understand the challenge of his name in the abstract but not have a plan to deal with it. It was said of Scott Walker that the great question was whether he had the heft and ability to go national. The same should have been asked of Jeb. He had never been a national candidate, only a governor. Reporters thought he was national because he was part of a national family.
“He was playing from an old playbook—he means to show people his heart, hopes to run joyously. But it’s 2015, we’re in crisis; they don’t care about your heart and joy, they care about your brains, guts and toughness. The expectations he faced were unrealistically high. He was painted as the front-runner. Reporters thought with his record, and a brother and father as president, he must be the front-runner, the kind of guy the GOP would fall in line for. But there’s no falling in line this year. He spent his first months staking out his position not as a creative, original chief executive of a major state—which he was—but as a pol raising shock-and-awe money and giving listless, unfocused interviews in which he slouched and shrugged. There was a sense he was waiting to be appreciated.
“I speak of his candidacy in the past tense, which is rude though I don’t mean it rudely. It’s just hard to see how this can work. By hard I mean, for me, impossible.”
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I’m still liking Rubio. Let’s hope this race gets something of a fresh — and more serious — start in January. We really can’t afford a third Democratic term in the White House. A Republican/conservative president may be too little too late at this stage for a country which seems to be on a steady downward spiral. But another liberal in the White House could just finish the whole mess off in no time. 😦 😦
“The most obnoxious of the three CNBC debate moderators must have been John Harwood. The competition was stiff, but Harwood combined smug superiority together with liberal cluelessness in perfect balance. …”
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They almost had that attitude I’ve seen among liberals who have never talked to a conservative face to face. They have discussed this with their friends and agreed that if they ever do get to talk to a conservative they will say this and that to them and they will crumble because their argument is sooo very clever. It never occurs to them that we have heard their cleaver argument a hundred times and have an answer.
What’s frustrating is the media’s ongoing denial that it tilts left. I’ve had this conversation with countless numbers of colleagues and they all just brush off any such suggestion — that because most of us in the media are liberal (I used to be, too), it creates a mindset that determines how and what stories are covered (though for the better reporters it’s unintentional, for the most part, I think). Don’t be silly, they all seem to respond. It’s just the “right-wing” nuts making those charges, but there is nothing to them.
There’s just this ingrained refusal to take those criticisms seriously or to question themselves on the issue, and that’s really too bad.
I’m going to turn that around to suggest the same issue for those vile web sites being discussed on the Daily Thread. It’s all about pride and an unwillingness to consider they may have their viewpoint skewed.
I don’t know how often I pray to see things through God’s point of view and not my own. I know I’m fallible and misunderstand. I believe that enables me, however, to listen better.
And wasn’t that part of the point of journalism– ” help me understand your point of view so the reader can make their own decisions about what they think?”
the unfortunate side of this, too, is that the charge of “liberal bias” is thrown at us all the time now — all of us, including me. And our poor intern who got called out this morning by a particularly pesky reader.
Sometimes bias is seen where it’s not, but I fear it’s partly due to our inability (in the industry) to take the earlier criticisms more seriously.
Now we’re all liberal, we’re all biased. So it’s a losing battle on both sides. The rift is there and won’t heal over for a long time.
“The Republican National Committee announced on Friday that it is suspending its partnership with NBC News for a GOP presidential debate in February.
In a letter to NBC News Chairman Andrew Lack, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said Wednesday night’s debate hosted by CNBC, which was universally criticized for its handling of the contest, influenced his decision to cut ties with the network for the Feb. 26 debate at the University of Houston.
“The CNBC network is one of your media properties, and its handling of the debate was conducted in bad faith,” Priebus wrote. “We understand that NBC does not exercise full editorial control over CNBC’s journalistic approach. However, the network is an arm of your organization, and we need to ensure there is not a repeat performance.”
From the story (AP style, by the way, suggests never to use the term “fundamentalist” unless a group specifically uses it to describe itself — it’s inflammatory, obviously):
But CNN ignores that of course …. these people are both scared & scary to the rest of America, the story seems to say:
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“A growing number of fundamentalist Christians believe the government is singling them out for persecution. Their fear intensified this summer when the Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage nationwide. That decision put tens of millions of Americans who hold traditional Christian beliefs at odds with the law and the majority. It also could drive them to the polls in large numbers, which is why a number of Republican candidates are playing to their fears — and why Hillary Clinton has used their rhetoric against them to motivate her own Democratic base
.
” ‘Fearful and angry people vote,” said Dennis Goldford, a professor of political science at Drake University in Iowa who studies the intersection of religion and politics. “People may well vote to advance certain kinds of ideals, but they will also vote if it’s a matter of self-protection.'” ….
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History suggests that nearly half the voters in the Republican primaries and caucuses will be white evangelicals. Thus, if you want the nomination, you must address their fears.
From the style book: “Fundamentalist: The word gained usage in an early 20th century fundamentalist-modernist controversy with Protestantism. In recent years, however, *fundamentalist* has to a large extent taken on pejorative connotations … In general, do not use *fundamentalist* unless a group applies the word to itself.”
Of course there is nothing to fear, a few people have had to choose between their livelihood and their faith and one guy has been sent to reeducation class and one person has gone to jail and some companies have had to spend millions of dollars to defend their rights, a few celebrities have been hounded out of their careers but as long as you don’t want a job in medicine, photography, entertainment, education, public service, adoption, counseling,or own a pharmacy, bakery, restaurant or any business with more than 50 employees, there is nothing to fear.
kBells – Out of curiosity, which celebrities have been hounded out of their careers?
Whenever I hear about a Christian or conservative celebrity, I am thankful for them. (Of course, I know that Christian & conservative are not one & the same.)
Off the top of my head there was the Benham Bros, Curt Cameron has been pretty much doing only Christian stuff, they tried really hard with Phil Roberson. Many have been forced to grovel and apologize.
Drip, drip, drip. Another 7,000 pages, including 200-300 classified emails released today from Hillary’s private server. But she didn’t send or receive any classified – she is still trying to sell that lie.
Wandering Views 
Peggy Noonan on the debate moderators:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-not-ready-for-prime-time-bush-1446160562
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” … I don’t know if fights like this win you anything, but the pushback was deserved, and instructive for future moderators: Be tough, incisive, follow up, dig down. But don’t be a high-handed snot, don’t wear your bias on your sleeve. That helps nothing. Don’t you get that? …”
________________________________________________
She also memorialized Jeb’s campaign — he’s simply not a good candidate and I suspect he’ll be out of this race in a few months at the most:
_________________________________________________
” … He’s not good at the merry aggression of national politics. He never had an obvious broad base within the party. He seemed to understand the challenge of his name in the abstract but not have a plan to deal with it. It was said of Scott Walker that the great question was whether he had the heft and ability to go national. The same should have been asked of Jeb. He had never been a national candidate, only a governor. Reporters thought he was national because he was part of a national family.
“He was playing from an old playbook—he means to show people his heart, hopes to run joyously. But it’s 2015, we’re in crisis; they don’t care about your heart and joy, they care about your brains, guts and toughness. The expectations he faced were unrealistically high. He was painted as the front-runner. Reporters thought with his record, and a brother and father as president, he must be the front-runner, the kind of guy the GOP would fall in line for. But there’s no falling in line this year. He spent his first months staking out his position not as a creative, original chief executive of a major state—which he was—but as a pol raising shock-and-awe money and giving listless, unfocused interviews in which he slouched and shrugged. There was a sense he was waiting to be appreciated.
“I speak of his candidacy in the past tense, which is rude though I don’t mean it rudely. It’s just hard to see how this can work. By hard I mean, for me, impossible.”
___________________________________________________
I’m still liking Rubio. Let’s hope this race gets something of a fresh — and more serious — start in January. We really can’t afford a third Democratic term in the White House. A Republican/conservative president may be too little too late at this stage for a country which seems to be on a steady downward spiral. But another liberal in the White House could just finish the whole mess off in no time. 😦 😦
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And from Powerline blog:
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“The most obnoxious of the three CNBC debate moderators must have been John Harwood. The competition was stiff, but Harwood combined smug superiority together with liberal cluelessness in perfect balance. …”
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/10/john-harwood-reflects.php
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They almost had that attitude I’ve seen among liberals who have never talked to a conservative face to face. They have discussed this with their friends and agreed that if they ever do get to talk to a conservative they will say this and that to them and they will crumble because their argument is sooo very clever. It never occurs to them that we have heard their cleaver argument a hundred times and have an answer.
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What’s frustrating is the media’s ongoing denial that it tilts left. I’ve had this conversation with countless numbers of colleagues and they all just brush off any such suggestion — that because most of us in the media are liberal (I used to be, too), it creates a mindset that determines how and what stories are covered (though for the better reporters it’s unintentional, for the most part, I think). Don’t be silly, they all seem to respond. It’s just the “right-wing” nuts making those charges, but there is nothing to them.
There’s just this ingrained refusal to take those criticisms seriously or to question themselves on the issue, and that’s really too bad.
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Pride, eh?
I’m going to turn that around to suggest the same issue for those vile web sites being discussed on the Daily Thread. It’s all about pride and an unwillingness to consider they may have their viewpoint skewed.
I don’t know how often I pray to see things through God’s point of view and not my own. I know I’m fallible and misunderstand. I believe that enables me, however, to listen better.
And wasn’t that part of the point of journalism– ” help me understand your point of view so the reader can make their own decisions about what they think?”
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the unfortunate side of this, too, is that the charge of “liberal bias” is thrown at us all the time now — all of us, including me. And our poor intern who got called out this morning by a particularly pesky reader.
Sometimes bias is seen where it’s not, but I fear it’s partly due to our inability (in the industry) to take the earlier criticisms more seriously.
Now we’re all liberal, we’re all biased. So it’s a losing battle on both sides. The rift is there and won’t heal over for a long time.
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Well it looks like Reince, who made these debate arrangements to begin with, is finally catching on….
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rnc-suspends-partnership-with-nbc-for-february-debate/ar-BBmCXkr?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=U142DHP
“The Republican National Committee announced on Friday that it is suspending its partnership with NBC News for a GOP presidential debate in February.
In a letter to NBC News Chairman Andrew Lack, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said Wednesday night’s debate hosted by CNBC, which was universally criticized for its handling of the contest, influenced his decision to cut ties with the network for the Feb. 26 debate at the University of Houston.
“The CNBC network is one of your media properties, and its handling of the debate was conducted in bad faith,” Priebus wrote. “We understand that NBC does not exercise full editorial control over CNBC’s journalistic approach. However, the network is an arm of your organization, and we need to ensure there is not a repeat performance.”
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Ugh.
Story featured on CNN’s home page (with a photo of a gray-haired couple):
Fear and voting on the Christian right … We’re Christian voters and we’re scared
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From the story (AP style, by the way, suggests never to use the term “fundamentalist” unless a group specifically uses it to describe itself — it’s inflammatory, obviously):
But CNN ignores that of course …. these people are both scared & scary to the rest of America, the story seems to say:
_____________________________________________________________
“A growing number of fundamentalist Christians believe the government is singling them out for persecution. Their fear intensified this summer when the Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage nationwide. That decision put tens of millions of Americans who hold traditional Christian beliefs at odds with the law and the majority. It also could drive them to the polls in large numbers, which is why a number of Republican candidates are playing to their fears — and why Hillary Clinton has used their rhetoric against them to motivate her own Democratic base
.
” ‘Fearful and angry people vote,” said Dennis Goldford, a professor of political science at Drake University in Iowa who studies the intersection of religion and politics. “People may well vote to advance certain kinds of ideals, but they will also vote if it’s a matter of self-protection.'” ….
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(cont’d):
History suggests that nearly half the voters in the Republican primaries and caucuses will be white evangelicals. Thus, if you want the nomination, you must address their fears.
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Good for AP Style! Nobody even knows what the word means any more.
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From the style book: “Fundamentalist: The word gained usage in an early 20th century fundamentalist-modernist controversy with Protestantism. In recent years, however, *fundamentalist* has to a large extent taken on pejorative connotations … In general, do not use *fundamentalist* unless a group applies the word to itself.”
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Of course there is nothing to fear, a few people have had to choose between their livelihood and their faith and one guy has been sent to reeducation class and one person has gone to jail and some companies have had to spend millions of dollars to defend their rights, a few celebrities have been hounded out of their careers but as long as you don’t want a job in medicine, photography, entertainment, education, public service, adoption, counseling,or own a pharmacy, bakery, restaurant or any business with more than 50 employees, there is nothing to fear.
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kBells – Out of curiosity, which celebrities have been hounded out of their careers?
Whenever I hear about a Christian or conservative celebrity, I am thankful for them. (Of course, I know that Christian & conservative are not one & the same.)
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Off the top of my head there was the Benham Bros, Curt Cameron has been pretty much doing only Christian stuff, they tried really hard with Phil Roberson. Many have been forced to grovel and apologize.
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Drip, drip, drip. Another 7,000 pages, including 200-300 classified emails released today from Hillary’s private server. But she didn’t send or receive any classified – she is still trying to sell that lie.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/30/official-says-no-plans-to-release-obama-clinton-emails-until-2017-state-dept/
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Cameron spoke at our church a year or two ago
But I guess I’m bothered by this media story playing up “fearful Christians.”
Yes, there are very real concerns about religious liberty.
But painting it as more of a personal — panicky-style — “fear” of the world is just so lame and plays into SO many stereotypes.
Ultimately, we’re not afraid at all, of course. Our Lord is the ruler of the nations, amen?
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Reminds me of Obama’s crack about how Christians are so fearful and relegated, poor things, to “clinging to” their guns and Bibles.
Please.
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I guess I kind of just think:
“Concerned? yes. ‘Scared,’ no. We’ll be fine. Worry about yourselves.”
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