Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

Good Morning!

5 Days!!!! 🙂

Today’s header photo is from Kare.

*It’s now Sunday the 21st, so I believe someone has a birthday today.

Happy Birthday Linda. 🙂


On this day in 1790 the first successful cotton mill in the United States began operating at Pawtucket, RI.

In 1860 South Carolina became the first state to secede from the American Union. 

In 1879 Thomas A. Edison privately demonstrated his incandescent light at Menlo Park, NJ. 

And in 1968 author John Steinbeck died at the age of 66.


Quote of the Day

Christmas, my child, is love in action. Every time we love, every time we give, it’s Christmas.”

Dale Evans


 This one is a request.

And this one is because I like it. From King’s College Choir


Anyone have a QoD?

6,436 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

  1. No word back from the woman who was going to give a response yesterday as to whether or not she wanted the job. I guess we move forward.


  2. Now we have heard from her, she is in. They will meet on Thursday for more discussion on mutual expectations. I guess we should have prayed for a quick fix, not just for the items to arrive in two weeks!

    Sorry to hear of your car situation, Jo. Such a blessing to have the van available. More ice cream in the future?

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  3. Interesting that this site does not take you directly to this page anymore. If I am on the last page, I have to click on newer comments. But it works.


  4. Kizzie, I trust that you are keeping a few things of hubby’s? Even a coat that you can put on when you are cold and missing him. Or a few favorite shirts. Don’t get rid of everything. You are going to enjoy arranging things once those closets are empty.

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  5. Jo – Yes, I am keeping a few pieces of his clothing. One of those is a cashmere sweater that he had even before we met. He rarely wore it, and in fact hadn’t worn it for several years, so it is still in great shape. I am saving it for The Boy, for when he grows up.

    Some of the clothes that I have put in the bags have been those that Hubby wore a lot, and although I choose to give them away, I hug them before putting them in the bag.


  6. I see Tina pulled the front of a drawer off on her dresser. It is a very sturdy dresser that has seen years of child use.


  7. I was good yesterday and when I was at the clinic I made an appointment to see the doctor about freezing the spots that need it on my nose. She was going to schedule me yesterday, but I didn’t want it during conference. Then it was going to be the day before I go to Goroka and I realized that wasn’t a good time, so scheduled it for the day after that trip.
    Such a busy life.


  8. Mumsee – I have been reading the discussion with interest. I can see the points made by both “sides”. Yes, I think you should speak your mind and heart on the matter.

    As for speaking further about it, maybe if a thought comes to you that is considerably important to you, you should share that thought. Does that make sense?

    Gotta go get The Boy from the bus stop.


  9. Mumsee, I think Roscuro did an excellent job with showing the Scripture as to how elders are to respond to wolves in our midst. It might be worth going back and rereading her posts from yesterday and today and see whether they lend any clarity about the wisdom (or lack of it) of being unequally yoked with known charlatans. In answer to your question, I think it is good to give the “benefit of the doubt” upon initial charges against someone we respect, but ultimately to defend Scripture and the Gospel and not people we respect, when they conflict. I’ve had to make that choice a few times in my Christian walk (including about a year ago with a preacher I highly respected), and it’s painful, I know.

    I’m currently reading some reports about the recent United Methodist general assembly (in which the traditional view of marriage was affirmed, but only because of delegates from Africa, not because of American delegates), and this paragraph seemed relevant here:

    Even the Apostle John — who wrote more about Christian love than any other biblical authors — said: “If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works” (2 John 1:11, see also 16:17, Galatians 1:8, and 2 Thessalonians 3:14).


  10. Thanks, Cheryl,

    I suppose we are needing to understand definitions. I fully concur about elders and wolves. But I put that in the context of the local church. Our local church leadership ought to be warning of the wolves, and not allowing them to speak in the churches. I assumed, whoever was heading this conference, were not believers and had invited a varied group to speak; or were believers and had some other motivation. In that situation, I see nothing wrong with believers adding their voice. And we have Philip: 1:18: What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in this I rejoice.

    Every time I went to a social function in the military, I was eating and socializing with nonbelievers, some would have been false teachers at some stage. By the end of each meeting, most of the folk probably knew where I stood in Christ. That is what I believe is in and not of. We are called to be out amid the nonbelievers, that is how we bring Christ to all peoples.


  11. It was being presented as a Christian conference, and there is video of Chan promoting it. And photos of him praying with the false teachers at it. His name can’t help but add credibility to the conference for those who know his name (and respect him), and therefore his presence gives credibility to the wolves. He treated the wolves as brothers in every way, publicly, until he was called to account afterward, and then he backtracked.

    I don’t know his standing with God; my research a few weeks ago showed serious concerns, and I personally wouldn’t read or listen to the man. But I believe he erred greatly in judgment on this one, and he needs people to pray for his discernment.


  12. Absolutely, I certainly pray for him, as with all folk I have allowed to influence me. I don’t expect any or those people to be perfect and rely on discernment God has given me to help me find the Truth and throw out the lies.

    Yes, if he had given his reasoning ahead of time, that would have helped his case. But he seems to have learned from it and has people in place now to help him with that in future. I don’t believe he should cease and desist so much as be aware and be wary.


  13. Interesting discussions with Moses, yesterday. Waiting and watching for the opportunity to mention Truth. So far, he has been. But his belief is more in evil spirits than anything, and how they are in charge of the night. He does talk about Jesus and us being accountable to God for our actions. He plans to be back in a couple of weeks so we will be looking through the Word for Truth to share.

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  14. Tina continues to struggle. Last week she actually cut herself on the back of the wrist (not the inside where real damage occurs) a couple of times and tied a piece of yarn around her neck. I cleaned out her room again of all dangers I could be aware of. Her OUI person also checked it out and talked with her to figure out what was going on. Her psychiatrist has yet to respond to emails or any thing else. And so it goes.

    She said she did it so people would feel sorry for her. She does not want to kill herself, just get attention. We talked about that for quite a while. The worker pointed out how much attention she already gets. Interestingly, our sermon today was on how we still have our bodies to deal with even after we get a new heart. The tension/fight continues between the old and the new.


  15. My friend mentioned at Christmas that she wanted to make me a photo book of my visit. Well, she never asked me for photos. She told me she was working on it and sent me a link. Then I went through what I had and sent them. I was sitting in conference and going through my phone which I don’t use here. She couldn’t believe what I had, but only used two of them. I sent her comments, but she got them after she finished. Now I feel bad for making her feel bad, but it won’t be much of a treasured book. Oh, well.
    By the way, my comments were positive, but I mentioned which ones I would like to add.


  16. Jo, we had something similar happen with my father-in-law’s funeral. Since I married into the family seven years ago, I’ve taken far more photos at gatherings than anyone else has (and with a better camera). When my father-in-law died, my sister-in-law asked me if I had photos for the photos they would put on the screen. I think she asked for 15-20, or maybe 20-30. I took hours going through my photos and ended up sending her about 10 more than she requested since it was hard to narrow it down. I included some photos that I thought were quite important, like my mother-in-law sitting on her husband’s lap and them looking at each other lovingly, and another of my husband and his father sitting on the couch side by side watching IU basketball, both of them with an IU cap and Iu shirt, looking very much like father and son (they are similar facially and they were both laughing). Of all the photos I sent, she used at most one. (One might have been a similar shot taken by someone else or might have been the one I sent.) We got a copy of the videos on a disk, but I was like “Who even wants it? My husband isn’t likely to look at it, and all the photos of the time that I have known the family were ones taken by other people, mostly at events where I wasn’t even there.” The really precious photos, especially those two I just noted, weren’t included. My daughter’s wedding wasn’t included, as I recall, except a photo of my sister-in-law’s granddaughter taken in the lobby (with her great-grandfather). (I also had a lovely photo I took of my in-laws in the lobby that day, her putting his corsage on him. I gave her the corsage specifically because I knew I could get a great photo, and I did.)

    So, yeah . . . don’t ask for photos and then not use them!


  17. Yeah, I imagine it was a boutonniere. At any rate, I figured it would be harder for Mom to put it on him than it might be for some younger woman. But I figured that she would value the opportunity, and it would give me a chance to take some precious photos. (The wedding photographer wasn’t in the room.)

    I put together a photo book of our daughter’s courtship and wedding, and I made a copy for us and one for the newlyweds. (I sent our daughter a link to the book so that she could have me take out any photos she didn’t like, change anything she wanted changed, etc. I had a few photos in my copy that I printed in sepia, and she wanted those done in full color, so I did that, but I don’t think she asked for any other changes.) And I sent a link to the mother of the groom and had her choose 20 pages of photos, and had that sent to her. The mother-in-law also chose a different “title” for the book than the one I had used, so I changed that for her.

    The wedding was two-and-a-half years ago, and a few months after it I was sent a link to the online photos from the official photographer. (She had not one photo of me and the bride. I made the mistake of handing her–rather than someone else–my camera and asking her to take a photo of us. She took a photo, but I looked at my camera later and it wasn’t on there, so I think she just used her own camera and didn’t like the photo she got, and apparently she figured I was just the stepmother and not important, so she didn’t get any shots on her own initiative.) We haven’t received any prints and probably never will (including family photos that were the last ones with my father-in-law in them–I didn’t get group shots with my camera), so I’m really glad I made the effort to get a lot of photos myself.

    I see professional photographers bristle that they “set up shots” and then family members take pictures too. And I sort of understand their frustration, especially if amateur photographers are getting in the way or are ruining their shots with their own flashes or making people look at the wrong photographer. BUT this was our family wedding, not hers. To say the mother of the bride can’t take photos because there is a photographer there is absurd. First, I have been to a wedding where the photographer messed up and ruined all the photos (they all turned out yellow and most of them were blurred–obviously the photographer wasn’t really a professional), and having some other photos just in case seems wise. Second, I am going to take some shots the photographer won’t see, and my shots will be personal in a way hers aren’t. I stayed out of her way and shot from different angles if we were shooting the same thing; I was as discreet as I could be. But third . . . if I hadn’t taken my own photos, I wouldn’t have any. It cost us too much money not to have at least some photos of it!

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  18. Tina seems to be deeply into depression now. Not acting out, just not doing anything. She just sits and stares. Yesterday I convinced her to go out and work on the pinata she had wanted to make. I told her to hang it from the swingset and work on it. But she worked on it on the ground and the chickens ate all the papier mache off when she left it to dry. I told her again she should hang it up but bring it in after a short time and hang it in her room to continue drying rather than leave it out in the rain. It rained. It is still hanging on the swingset.


  19. Tina came to us with an IQ rating of 60. We thought she had improved as the years past, but now husband thinks she has gone back down to a 40. I don’t know how that all works but she is definitely less able to follow directions than she was. I suspect all the chaos in her brain interferes with her ability to process simple directions.


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