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Our Daily Thread 7-6-13

Good Morning!

Happy Saturday! 🙂

I do love long weekends. I just wish it wasn’t too hot to go outside. 😦

On this day in 1777 British forces captured Fort Ticonderoga during the American Revolution.

In 1885 Louis Pasteur successfully tested his anti-rabies vaccine. 😯

In 1905 fingerprints were exchanged for the first time between officials in Europe and the U.S. The person in question was John Walker.

In 1933 the first All-Star baseball game was held in Chicago. The American League beat the National League 4-2. 🙂

In 1942 Anne Frank and her family took refuge from the Nazis in Amsterdam. 

In 1945 President Truman signed an order creating the Medal of Freedom.

In 1983 Fred Lynn of the California Angels hit the first grand slam in an All-Star game. The American League defeated the National League 13-3. 

And in 1988 several popular beaches were closed in New York City due to medical waste and other debris began washing up on the seashores.

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Quote of the Day

“So, I’m lying on the couch and Laura walks in and I say, ‘Free at last,’ and she says ‘You’re free all right, you’re free to do the dishes.’

So I say, ‘You’re  talking to the former president, baby,’ and she said, ‘consider this your new domestic policy agenda.'”

George W. Bush

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This gentleman was born on today’s date.

On this day in 1973 Queen released it’s first single.

And on this day in 1978 Eddie Mahoney changed his name to Eddie Money.

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Who has a QoD for us?

116 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 7-6-13”

  1. God morning everyone.
    It’s still raining.
    We visited the USC campus yesterday. Ducking between shelters. We met some interesting people though, sharing a dry spot.
    We plan to visit the statehouse grounds and down town Columbia today. That’s where we did our courting.
    No telling who we’ll meet..

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  2. I like the George Bush quote. I enjoyed reading Harry Truman’s biography. I felt that he was one of those that God put in a special place for His purposes.

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  6. There was a similar quote from George W about picking up dog poop as a former President. He made some mistakes, but I always liked him and think — he never came off whiny or irritable and thin-skinned and I admired that (considering all the criticism that was hurled his way). And I also think he was generally a good president. They all have mixed records to some degree.

    But don’t even get me started on the current guy … 😉

    Thinking about taking Tess over to the Saturday morning training workshop, we haven’t been in a while. I’m normally not up this early on a Saturday but our trash pickup was delayed a day so I had to haul all of that out by 6:30 a.m.

    Chas, sounds like you’re having a very fun time in spite of the weather.

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  7. Mumsee- 100 degrees is too hot to go outside in. I don’t need to, so I ain’t. 😯 But no fishin’ either. 😦

    And sorry Donna, I was referring to us non-essential folks. 😉

    You can send that rain north to us Chas. At this point we’ll take it if it helps ease the heat a little, 🙂

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  9. the real, seems to me, if it is one hundred degrees outside, one might prefer that to the oven of inside. Especially by sitting under the trees with a good book or conversation with children.

    I am in now from feeding the keets and the choults and watering a couple of new trees and preparing the ground surface for a couple of new trees husband bought. Daughter will go out in a few (she has been overseeing breakfast) to dig the holes and get those two planted. I sure am glad she likes to dig and has the muscles to do it. Because I like lots of trees. And I live on the prairie.

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  10. 100 degrees too hot to go outside! The Real, let me offer you a remedy. Come here for a few days; where the outdoor thermometers manufactured for use for cooler climates (they only go to about 120 F) go off the scale and where, during this rainy season, it is possible to sit perfectly still and be thoroughly soaked in sweat. After that, 100 degrees in PA will feel like the first cool days of spring 😆

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  11. okay, the new trees are planted and I have watered them. Carrying a few buckets of water is much easier than digging holes, to me. Now it is off to the shade to read to small people, catch up on the newspapers, and eat breakfast.

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  12. I would wilt in heavy humidity. People make fun of us in California for saying the “dry” heat is more tolerable. But it really is.

    I don’t like heat of any kind, but humidity makes it so much worse.

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  13. Donna, dry heat may or many not be more tolerable, but you don’t have real heat anyway. 🙂

    When people tried to tell me that the heat in Phoenix didn’t really count because it was a “dry heat,” I told them (1) When it’s 110 and above, it doesn’t matter–it’s hard to breathe. (2) Go to Phoenix in July or August on a rainy day and then see what you think of “dry” heat. (3) Phoenix has an average of 89 days of 100 and above–three months’ worth. (They just had five out of six days above 110.) They have about a week of 110 and above, on average, sometimes a lot more. The average Phoenix high in early July (right now) is 107. (4) Some areas of Phoenix have very little tree cover. Though we had a patio roof over our back door growing up, once you step out from under shade, 110-plus heat hits you full blast with no relief. (5) By the time it’s well past 100, it’s imposible to turn on the ignition of your car; the metal is simply too hot. (And that’s for me–I routinely wash dishes in water that’s all the way hot and otherwise have a higher-than-average heat tolerance.) I kept a napkin in my glove compartment, because even with parking in the shade and keeping the windows down a crack, it still was impossible to turn on the ignition at the end of a workday without something to turn the key with. The highest I’ve ever experienced (twice) is 122–and humidity or no humidity, that really is hot. (And with low humidity, you’re in real danger of dehydration; you don’t even feel yourself sweat, it evaporates so fast.)

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  14. Cheryl, good point. I’ve been through the desert (I know, we’re all singing right now, aren’t we? “on a horse with no name … “) and I cannot fathom how some people actually LIKE living in that climate.

    I’ve also spent time in Iowa during the summer, heavy with humidity and the air buzzing with gigantic mosquitoes, and I couldn’t figure out how people tolerate that, either!

    I mean, really.

    Typical Californian, I know. But I have to say that the moderate climate along the coast is still a big selling point.

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  15. Maybe it was on the political thread, but we were talking in the past week or so about churches and the tax-exampt status. Huckabee will be taking the issue up on his show later today on fox, for those of you interested.

    Kind of ironic because non-believers say churches should not have the status because they are already too politically active … some Christians believe it might be a good step to take to ensure future religious liberty and freedom from a government that seems to be exerting more and more influence over people’s lives.

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  21. I see nobody seems to be impressed that I got 20! How about this?

    20
    X5
    =100

    I got 100! (20 is the new 100, you know.)

    🙂

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  23. I’d rather have 20° here than 100. At least at 20 you can put something on to warm up. But when it’s 100 here it is also humid. Dry in Missouri is 30%. And Cheryl, in Arizona when they report the temperature, it is the temp in the shade. In the sun it’s 15-20° hotter, especially on pavement.

    And AJ is on vacation, so it’s a very long weekend for him. But those of us in tourism have more work to do on weekends like this. I gave 6 tours today in 8 hours. That’s a lot of walking and talking. But at least I am in a 52° cave all that time.

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  24. Peter, my dad frequently reminded us that we had heard the temperature in the shade.

    But in winter Phoenicians get to gloat. I well remember the time my uncle called from Chicago to complain it was -65 wind chill. He made the mistake of saying to Mom, “I bet it’s 65 above there.” Dad helpfully went out to check the temperature. Yep, it was 65! Many times in my years in Chicago I remembered that little incident, especially when I experienced my own -65 wind chill!

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  25. I’m sitting at the beach with the dogs, watching the eves break over the rocks, surfers, fishermen, swimmers, gulls gliding slowly overhead. The wind coming off the water is perfect, probably in the 60s.

    Sun is getting low, I’m smelling some good barbecues nearby.

    Better than air conditioning.

    It’s so beautiful out here!

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  28. Donna – Heidi is currently snuggling with my feet while we hear fireworks from “Summerfest” up at the high school. But sometimes, she’ll be obsessing about catching a fly. So funny. Does Tess or Cowboy (or both) try to catch flies?

    What is your opinion on that case you’ve been posting about on Facebook, about the cops shooting the dog?

    I’m off to get ready for bed, but I’ll be back in the morning.

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  29. Kare, exactly. 🙂 And heaven knows they need a shepherd.

    Karen, Cowboy’s a pretty good fly catcher. 🙂

    Tess and her shadows … She’ll stare and stare at the ground … then, UP goes her left front paw in a pointer position and she’ll pounce on it. Such a weird dog. Frustrated, I suspect.

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  30. So I kept thinking today about a passage (Rev. 21:1) I’d recently come across — about how there would be no more sea in the new earth.

    😦

    The ocean is such a marvel to me — I can’t look at it for long without dwelling on God’s “bigness” — so deep, so far, so wide, that it covers the the earth.

    So I was glad to find this passage by Spurgeon that speaks to that text and what it might really mean:

    “’And the sea was no more.’

    “Scarcely could we rejoice at the thought of losing the glorious old ocean. The new heavens and the New Earth are none the fairer to our imagination, if, indeed, there is literally to be no great and wide sea, with its gleaming waves and shelly shores.

    “Is not the text to be read as a metaphor, tinged with the prejudice with which the Eastern mind universally regarded the sea in the olden times? A real physical world without a sea is mournful to imagine; it would be an iron ring without the sapphire which made it precious.

    “There must be a spiritual meaning here. In the new dispensation there will be no division—the sea separates nations and ­separates peoples from each other. To John in Patmos the deep waters were like prison walls, shutting him out from his brethren and his work; there shall be no such barriers in the world to come. Leagues of rolling waves lie between us and many a kinsman whom tonight we prayerfully remember, but in the bright world to which we go, there shall be unbroken fellowship for all the redeemed family. In this sense there shall be no more sea.

    “The sea is the emblem of change; with its ebbs and flows, its glassy smoothness and its mountainous waves, its gentle murmurs and its tumultuous roarings, it is never long the same. Slave of the fickle winds and the moon, its instability is proverbial. In this mortal state we have too much of this; Earth is constant only in its inconstancy, but in the heavenly state all mournful change shall be unknown, and with it all fear of storm to wreck our hopes and drown our joys.

    “No tempest howls along the peaceful shores of Paradise. Soon shall we reach that happy land where partings and changes and storms shall be ended! Jesus will always keep us above water there. Are we in him or not? This is the grand question.”

    Excerpted from Morning and Evening, December 19 (evening).

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  34. Actually, I have been thinking of getting one for several months. A good border collie would be a big help with the goats and sheep and pigs and cows and steers and horses. I think. Anyway, even if it was only good with the sheep and keeping the chickens off of the porch, it would be worth it. My current dogs kill them and that is not really what I was thinking as far as keeping them off the deck. As mentioned, I have been considering for quite some time and watching the papers for a young to middle aged border collie or Australian Shepherd. One came available the other day. Six months old. Of course, they is probably a reason or two but if it is just that the owner learned it is a high energy animal, I can deal with that.

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  36. I know, I was a small child when one was dumped by our place. I have always liked them but never had the space for them until we moved here.

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  37. Anyone having trouble getting onto this page? (Not that they’ll answer if they are.) I didn’t have trouble over on Rants & Raves a little bit ago, but things seemed to freeze up when I tried to click on the comments for this thread, or scroll down to the reply box when it let me onto the comment page.

    I got an announcement that said something like, “This page at wanderersviews… [etc.] is unresponsive. You can wait for it to be responsive, or you can kill it.” 😯 Yikes.

    Trust me, I’m not doing anything of the sort!

    Going to bed now, and hoping to sleep…

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  39. “A place for everything and everything in its place.” My grandmother always liked to say that. She lived it, too. Me, I didn’t inherit that gene so much.

    Trying to get rid of my headache now before I go to bed. 😦

    I’ve been meditating on part of Isaiah 43 often this week, a very refreshing part of scripture that spoke to me this week.

    18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.

    19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

    20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

    21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.

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  41. Donna, on the topic of no more sea. We have been listening to a series on Revelation, and the speaker mentioned that and spoke of it as a good thing. I had the same wistful response as Spurgeon. While here, I have been to the coast and spent a wonderful afternoon wading in the salt surf. Even though I have a fear of deep water, I would miss the beauty and grandeur it brings. Then it occurred to me that there would be a large body of water in the resurrection – “And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal…” (Revelation 22:1). If the description of Ezekiel is any indication, it will be wide and deep (47:3-5):
    “And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles.
    Again he measured a thousand. and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees.
    Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.
    Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.”

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  42. Ephesians 1 :15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, 16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, 18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, 19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 20 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.22 And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

    My prayer is that we start to let God give us the spirit of wisdom, the knowledge of Him, so we may understand better who He is and the Work He is doing in us, so we can overcome the sinful man and live a life, that gives Him the praise and glory.

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  46. The two border collies I’ve known have kept themselves entertained by herding four children in each family. Amusing, but frustrating for the dogs–who also knew how to obey even four year-olds who told them to sit! 🙂

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  48. An edited copy of an e – mail I sent Chuck:

    We got home about 3:00 this afternoon.
    It rained most of the time we were there. But it was a nice time for what we could do.
    Visiting Columbia was one of those things we kept talking about doing, since we had never gone there to visit the town since we left. Now we did it and likely won’t go back again. We visited the USC campus, the statehouse and the South Carolina museum. But the main part of town was dead because of the holiday weekend. Besides, all the stores are at the mall now.
    We visited FBC this morning. It is a big church. I do not like a church so big that the pastor has to be on a TV screen. The temptation is to watch the screen, even if you’re close enough to see him.
    We also visited the old, restored church where we met and were married.
    I got 3.8” of rain while we were gone.
    Otherwise, things are back to whatever normal is, and I’m glad..

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  49. 😦

    The Boeing 777 crashed in SF yesterday. I was watching a replay last night on FoxNews. It was one of those things where you know all there is to know after the first fifteen minutes. But they had to keep talking.
    At one point, they said the plane was descending at 1400 feet/sec. I knew that was wrong when they said it. That would be over 900 mph. Turns out, it was 1400 feet/min. That is still fast, a vertical drop at a 16 mph rate.
    After they spend a couple of months investigating it, they will likely tell us that the pilot had overshot his mark and had to make a quick descent. He should have gone around again.
    Once, I was seated beside a lady as we were going into Memphis.
    I noticed, and said to her, “It seems we’re coming in high.”
    Then you could feel the plane surge. I said, “Climb power, we’re going around again.”
    She said, “Is that bad?”
    I said, “The decision to go around again is always the correct decision.”

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  50. Chas, a pilot friend of mine on fb posted these thoughts:

    “The incident at SFO today with Asiana Airline deserves some rational insight beyond the media adjectives and eyewitness accounts understandably filled with emotion.

    “The Boeing 777 has a wonderful safety record with the other incident years ago with British Air being the only blemish. Lessons learned with fuel system icing with that aircraft were fixed. In addition, this aircraft uses different engines (Pratt and Whitney vs. Rolls Royce).

    “Some have been quick to cast blame on the flight crew due to the tail strike. But, not so fast…. there are many factors that can cause a non-stabilized approach including ATC (air traffic control) instructions, mechanical failure, and bird injestion in a marine environment. Then comes factors that include cockpit sterility (maintenance of a workplace free of distractions) and decision-making.

    “The data and cockpit voice recorders will tell what happened. Once revealed, the path of addressing the issues will be defined. I will guarantee that those issues will not be singular. Typically, these are the result of a ‘perfect storm’ where the right combination of failures or errors result in a tragic loss. Our best to all the families affected.”

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  51. Donna j Jul 06, 2013 @ 21:11:02
    I’m sitting at the beach with the dogs, watching the eves break over the rocks, surfers, fishermen, swimmers, gulls gliding slowly overhead.

    I can picture the sea gulls gliding slowly overhead, but I had to read it twice before I realized the fishermen, swimmers and surfers were in the water, not the sky. 😉

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  54. I don’t think the border collie is going to happen. But it would be nice to raise one with the seven year old as something of a protector/herder to keep him where he belongs. I think he would benefit from that sort of relationship with a dog.

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  56. mumsee, Tess is very good at herding cats (which isn’t easy).

    And in her dog park days, she used to run circles around people talking in a group, edging them (unconsciously) closer and closer together … She would have put them in a pen had one been available, I suppose.

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  58. I tried calling the number but their machine is full. Could just be they are away for the weekend. Could be a whole lot of people have been desperately seeking a six month old border collie.

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  61. mumsee, is this a dog that you saw advertised or is it with a rescue group? There are border collie rescues that are pretty good to work with.

    Welcome home, Kim. A week of interviews ahead?

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  64. Oh. Well. 😀 I didn’t look at the prices.

    I got mine through a BC rescue for probably $200+ each.

    I’ve read where border collies — genetically — are the closest match of dog breeds to wolves.

    For whatever that’s worth …

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  66. I see them frequently in the paper. My guess is that people don’t realize they are high energy and just think they are smart and loving. So….I am happy to take somebody’s cast off and give it what most dogs would think is a great life. Unless it kills chickens and tries to kill sheep….

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  67. mumsee, OK, but that includes all their shots & spay-nueter, microchips — it essentially reimburses the rescue group for what they’ve already spent on the dog (that usually comes out of a city or county shelter). Money that the owner presumably would have spent upon adoption from a shelter.

    Here’s the group I’ve used:

    http://www.bordercolliesinneed.org

    I know the woman who helped start it up, she lives less than a mile from me and grew up with BCs on the Peninsula adjacent to us (where cattle & horses are a way of life).

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  68. Many of these dogs were relinquished once new owners realized they had their hands full. A farmlette is ideal for them.

    Some great dogs in the mix looking to fulfill their destiny — let me know if you see one that works for you. 🙂

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  70. This dog has its shots and is spayed. I don’t think microchips mean much around here. Though mine are microchipped because I got them from a rescue. I don’t have a problem with working through a rescue if they have what I am looking for and it is within a reasonable distance. I just figure there are so many older dogs being given away, if one is what I am looking for, it should work.

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  84. What I would like? Young and energetic with strong herding instinct but not into killing. Smart, fast learner, affectionate but not needy. Enjoys children and other dogs and cats. Willing to learn to herd sheep, goats, cows, chickens, and babysit a child. I like the red and white as there are a lot of black and white around here. Though my dog growing up was black and white and he was wonderful.

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  94. I am too, Jo!

    I would love to have a border collie, but he’d probably want to herd the bison that live across the road.

    I hope Donna finds you one, Mumsee, and then brings it up to you. That would be neat!

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  103. I got to this thread when there were 91 comments, read the ones I hadn’t seen, posted my comment, and that was 100! I can never get 100 when I try, but when I’m not trying, well, then… 🙂

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  106. Wow, a body takes a tiny break to wash her face and brush her teeth — and look what happens. Everyone just hordes in and grabs all the rest of the big numbers.

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  114. Oy. I’d forgotten about this typo in a tweet from a couple months ago, but someone belatedly ribbed me about it tonight — how tiny the surgical needles must have been for these mosquito operations … (I meant to type “spraying,” of course):

    Spaying begins after West Nile virus is found at Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park #Wilmington #HarborCity

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