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News/Politics 11-6-12

What’s news today?

I guess there’s really no need to ask is there?

The Election. The Storm.

So let’s get to it.

I’ll post some election related stories, and some storm related. We’ll do another election post on coverage as things progress, along with updates.

From CBSNews

“Mayor Michael Bloomberg said 30,000 to 40,000 New Yorkers may need to be relocated — a monumental task in a city where housing is scarce and expensive — though he said that number would probably drop to 20,000 within a couple of weeks as power is restored in more places.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said on Sunday federal agencies are looking for apartments and hotel rooms for people displaced by Superstorm Sandy, Reuters reports.”

Rudy says FEMA blew it. Again. From Politico

“Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani slammed FEMA and President Barack  Obama on Monday over the response to super storm Sandy-inflicted damages, saying the emergency agency is  failing as badly to as it did during Katrina.

“The response since the time the president got all this praise and credit and  press ops has been abysmal,” Giuliani said on Fox News Channel’s “America’s  Newsroom.” “FEMA is as much a failure now as at the time of Katrina.””

Obama goes with the “heckuva job Brownie” type response. Also from Politico

“Speaking to a Hollywood, Fla., crowd that local officials estimated at 23,000, Obama trumpeted his response to last week’s hurricane, noting he’s been talking to “governors and mayors every single day” about the recovery effort.”

In other news, Romney has reason to be encouraged, if his internal numbers are accurate

From TheDailyMail

“Romney is also three points up in New  Hampshire

But he is trailing in Nevada, according  to campaign pollster Neil  Newhouse

If the figures hold true Romney will  almost certainly become the 45th President of the United  States”

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign tries to rally the faithful.

From Politiker.com

“In a conference call this afternoon, President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign had one central message for their supporters when Election Day arrives tomorrow: They should “keep calm,” even if they hear snippets of information favoring Republican Mitt Romney.”

This is disturbing.

From TheHill.com

““We write to express concerns over another serious failure by the Department of Defense (DoD) to safeguard the voting rights of our overseas military service members, which we believe could result in the imminent disenfranchisement of thousands,” the letter stated.

Mail redirection in the military can take between 14 to 50 days, meaning a ballot could reach the voter possibly more than a month after ballots have to be mailed back in order to be counted. The Military Postal Service Agency (MPSA) identified problems with the system after the 2010 election, but hasn’t implemented changes.”

Why am I not shocked?

LifeNews has the Top 10 Reasons For Pro-lifers to Vote for Romney.

“In the election between pro-abortion President Barack Obama and former Governor Mitt Romney, there is a wide chasm between the two when it comes to the concerns pro-life voters have about abortion.

Whereas Obama has crafted a lengthy pro-abortion record, with more than 240 anti-life actions and a zealous effort to keep virtually unlimited abortions in place for another 40 years, Mitt Romney has taken pro-life positions that should earn him the vote of every pro-life voter on election day.”

And this one? Well, it’s just for fun.

From Mediate.com

“While examining some possible Electoral College scenarios with NBC News White House Correspondent Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell wondered why President Barack Obama’s campaign would send former President Bill Clinton to Philadelphia if they were confident the Keystone State was unlikely to flip to Mitt Romney on Tuesday. “If Pennsylvania is in play, then this is all over for the president,” Mitchell said. ”

Heh.

🙂

And finally, a message from Bill Whittle for potential 3rd party voters.

30 thoughts on “News/Politics 11-6-12”

  1. Alrighty, I’ll try it here, then.

    the real AJ: I’m 3:49 into the Whittle video and I hardly know where to begin. I’ve spoken to much of what this guy has said to that point of the video. Would you like to select one of his strongest points that I haven’t addressed and let me take a crack at it? Also, can you show me where he refutes my reading of Psalm 2, or where he explains how it’s more important for a politician to have a right view of marriage than it is that he have a right view of Christ? Or where he successfully defends the abysmal pro-life record of previous Republican presidents? If you will? Thanks.

    I’ll give the guy credit, though, he did seem apologetic for any implication made that 3rd party voters and abstainers facilitate the murder of babies. I will give him that. It’s refreshing when people apologize for such bile.

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  2. Lots of politicking on the Daily Thread.
    But that’s what this day is about.
    It occurred to me this morning, while I was praying, that lots of people are praying about this election.
    I doubt that anyone is praying for Obama.

    Not even Solarpancake.

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  3. SolarPancake,

    I didn’t miss it, I was ignoring you.

    🙂

    Let me explain something to you. In the past I’ve been unfair, and even mean, and yes, probably un-Christ like to those I’ve disagreed with on the 3rd party topic. I made a promise when we all came here from World that I would do a better job of avoiding such behavior. I was wrong, I confess to that, and I’m trying to avoid it as I promised. I could easily get sarcastic, throw bombs around, and say what I want regardless of how folks take it, or how they feel about it. But I promised to be better, and I aim to keep that promise. You are upset because I asked what I thought was a legit question. Then you claimed I didn’t ask any. The ones with question marks were the questions, but you missed, or ignored, that. I apologize if I offended you, but I seem unable to get an answer without rubbing you the wrong way. Either way, it’s apparent that a fruitful discussion between you and I on this subject is not going to happen. So be it. You may continue to post what you like, and free of censorship by me I’ll add, but I’m done. I made a promise to the folks who post here, and I’ll do my best to keep it. The only way I can make the best effort at that is to avoid pursuing this discussion any farther with you. So I’m done with it. Thanks.

    PS,

    I chose the Bill Whittle piece because he avoided what I did not. I thought he did a better job than my ham-handed attempts to convey the same thoughts. The choice is yours, and every voter’s. Vote the way you want, and you don’t need to tell me either way you vote. That’s your right, and it’s a good thing.

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  5. Should the ideological Libertarians and religious nut-cases succeed in tipping the scale to Obama’s side, they will reap another four years of a hard-left president who could lead the country to financial ruin. America’s enemies including Iran, North Korea and China are salivating at the prospect of another Obama term.

    All it would take would be for the bond vigilantes to drive up interests rates during one failed Treasury auction for the nation to devolve into another major recession or worse. This is what Paul Ryan regards as the almost certain outcome of continued $trillion deficits.

    Meanwhile the deluded and righteous third-party candidates and abstainers will persist in their fantasy world of perfect justice. Sic transit gloria mundi.

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  6. the real AJ: No. You didn’t ask a question. Oh, sure, there was a interrogative punctcuation in your comments, but no real, honest question. What’s weirder is that you now imply you were only asking a question. Again, nah. You *stated* that it’s undeniable that folks like me foster child murder. Um, kind of lame to think that wouldn’t rub someone the wrong way, big guy, don’t you think? And further, even, I *DID* give you a number of answers. You never really countered back. I don’t get the play here. Deny and disclaim if you want, but you’re just asking for an echo chamber here. Even 6 arrows bowed out–who’s fault is that?

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  7. That’s an interesting take, Sails. It would imply that the strategy that got us two Bushes and failed candidacies of Dole and McCain, etc., has had the opposite effect of all that bad stuff. And I would describe that reading of reality as “delusional.” But let’s reload that same weapon and shoot aimlessly into the air! As long as it’s not Obama! Because if HE got in there, there’s no *way* God could keep things under control!

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  8. See there, the real AJ. So I’m a jerk, I won’t deny that. But 6 arrows? He or she is meek, kind, and mild. But your cohort there (and YOU, brutha) calls the likes of him or her “deluded and righteous” (among a bunch of other things I’m too lazy to go back and retrieve but are equally or more pompous). ECHO ECho echo echo…..

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  9. Following up on AJ’s video:

    http://www.worldmag.com/2012/11/why_christians_should_vote

    I’ve quoted this from John Piper before (the link is found within the world magazine link I pasted above). While he is focusing on those planning not to vote at all, I believe it also speaks to 3rd party voters:

    “Barring catastrophe, Obama or Romney will be president (yes, I know you may see it as a catastrophe even if either does get elected). The likelihood that both presidencies will be identical in the good and evil they do is infinitesimal. One will very probably do more good amid the bad, even if only a little.

    “We can be part of that guess, or sit it out. God promises wisdom to those who seek it. So the likelihood that prayed-up, Bible-shaped Christians will tip the scales toward the incrementally worse regime is small. Therefore, the likelihood that we will waste our time voting seems small.

    “Not a very inspiring rationale. I just find it compelling in a fallen world that is not my home.”

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  10. Today, of course, will be filled with charges and counter-charges of voter fraud, voter suppression, cheating and the ever popular polling place “irregularities.”

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  12. Actually, the Bushes proved to be relatively better presidents than Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. These matters, of course, require some subtlety and nuance of mind. Donna’s quote from John Piper on the subject is a superb example.

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  13. Meanwhile, I hear that the tiny town of Dixville Notch, NH, had the first voting in the nation, at least the first on election day. Obama and Romney each got 5 votes for a tie. If the day goes like that it will be a long time before we know the final outcome.

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  14. I agree, Sails.

    Frankly, someone who agreed hard-core down the line with EVERYTHING I believe (a) doesn’t exist and (b) would never be elected. 🙂

    It’s a give-and-take in the system of government we have.

    And, yes, sometimes the benefits can be subtle. But benefits they are over what is the alternative.

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  16. Frankly, someone who agreed hard-core down the line with EVERYTHING I believe…

    I can count on zero fingers the number of people I know, including myself, who insist on that criterion. But I’ve already mentioned that here 14 times.

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  17. Peter, I do hope this election doesn’t go into overtime. 😦 😦 But it could.

    I’m hoping the polls are somehow off and one or the other candidate (obviously one would be better than the other in my mind!) pulls away somewhat decisively.

    Should be an interesting night ahead. And my “early” (6:30 a.m.) shift if tomorrow. Bad timing.

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  19. Peter L. I’m actually encouraged by the Dixville Notch 5-5 vote. In 2008 Obama beat McCain 15-6. I assume that the former Obama voters that didn’t show up this year having figured out that Obama has succeeded in making Jimmy Carter look like a statesman.

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  20. Solarpancake: Hmm. Which is reletively [sic] better: the New World Translation, or the Book of Mormon?

    This election has nothing to do with the relative merits of the Bible and the Book of Mormon, unless one is blinkered by religious ideology. One of America’s great strengths is that, while we have a long standing historically orthodox Judeo-Christian tradition, we are, also, a pluralistic nation that respects people of other faiths and allows them to run with dignity for the presidency, providing they have no interest in imposing their faith on others.

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  21. This election has nothing to do with the relative merits of the Bible and the Book of Mormon….

    Whoosh! That point went way over someone’s head! I’d have expected more from an expert in sublety and nuance of mind [ugh, it’s hard to write sentences that pompous sounding. How do you do it, Sails? I admire your fortitude.]

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  22. You’ve made your point, Solarpancake. Now go do what the rest of us are doing: voting our choice and leaving the results to God.

    (Maybe if we ignore him he’ll stop posting the same arguments over and over again.)

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  25. Chas

    Why do you think no one is praying for the President? There are christian democrats and christian republicans and christian libertarians and christian greens.

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  26. CB, plenty of conservatives pray for the president every day knowing the excruciating difficulty and importance of the job. One may vehemently oppose Obama’s politics and still pray for him, as I do.

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  29. Sails,

    Yes, I know they do. Karen, however, got the point of my question. Christians come in all political stripes. Folks here sometimes seem to convey the thoguht thaat Christian inexorably leads to voting in a particular way.

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