“Left-wing groups, financed by tens of millions of dollars in out-of-state funding, wrote Amendment 4 in an intentionally vague manner to deceive Floridians and downplay the true consequences of enshrining such extreme measures into our constitution.
Amendment 4 eliminates the requirement that doctors be involved in abortion procedures, and eliminates the right of parents to consent for their minor children to undergo this major medical procedure.
That’s why the doctors I met with today in Coral Gables, and hundreds of their colleagues practicing medicine throughout the state, are against Amendment 4.
If Amendment 4 passes, there would be no meaningful limits on abortion, allowing abortions up to the moment of birth for virtually any reason.
Amendment 4 would allow people who are not licensed doctors to perform risky medical procedures—even surgical abortions—on minors without their parents’ consent.”
Some may chose to give Tangle credibility because it’s news they like. I chose not to based upon who the founder, and his previous employers are. Opinions vary.
Same goes for the WSJ. Some give it credibility, others see it as having sold out its ideals because Orange Man Bad, and now see it as just another left wing rag with a Never Trump agenda.
Again, opinions vary. You don’t get to limit mine, and I never limit yours. See how that works?
“This is a great take-down by @johnddavidson of a pathetic and embarrassing WSJ article that uses the ridiculous propaganda term and framing of “election denier” to describe critics of some election administration problems”
“If Americans have questions and concerns about how our elections are administered and how ballots are tabulated, does that make them “election deniers,” conspiracy theorists, threats to democracy?
The Wall Street Journal seems to think so. In a long news report published over the weekend headlined, “‘It Feels Very Dystopian.’ Republican County Officials Brace for Election Deniers—Again,” the Journal repeatedly characterized those who think the 2020 election was stolen, rigged, or less-than-secure as “election deniers,” and stopped just short of calling them domestic terrorists.
“The piece is framed as a disturbing look at the growing threats facing local election officials from “election deniers” — an asinine epithet — as we approach November 5: “Four years of baseless allegations of election fraud have created an atmosphere of fear and intimidation among election officials from Atlanta to rural Washington state, transforming the way workers in many parts of the country are approaching the most fundamental of civic duties.”
Election officials, workers, and even volunteers have been forced to take extraordinary measures to protect themselves, we’re told. Active shooter drills, barricading exercises, trauma kits, bulletproof glass, and bulletproof vests have all become commonplace in election offices across the country. Scary stuff.
And it’s all Trump’s fault, apparently.”
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Some love the WSJ, I think it’s just another bunch of pearl clutching, hand wringing, Never Trumpers. They’ve become shills for the establishment. They’re no longer to be taken seriously as a result of their obvious anti-Trump bias.
Ya’ll can continue to give them credibility based on their past, but I chose not to based on what they’ve become in the present.
“The former would mean falsely cast or illegally changed ballots, which is difficult to prove took place on a scale large enough to change the outcome of the election, while latter would mean the sort of things that really did happen in 2020: last-minute changes to how absentee ballots are processed and counted, widespread social media censorship by Big Tech in collusion with corporate media, and the flooding erstwhile nonpartisan local election offices with hundreds of millions in “Zuckbucks” to get out the vote in heavily Democrat areas. And that’s just to name a few of the ways Democrats rigged the last election.
The Journal isn’t interested in any of these things and doesn’t mention them in its report. Instead, it presents all the fears and safety concerns from poll workers and election officials as justified. It also presents threats of violence as representative of Trump voters generally, even though it only mentions three cases where individuals have been prosecuted for making threats against election officials.
The entire frame and premise of the piece is designed to gaslight readers into thinking that election officials nationwide are being hunted by rabid Trump supporters who have been hoodwinked into believing an outlandish conspiracy theory about the 2020 election.
That’s too bad, because there are plenty of election-related stories the Journal could have put its considerable resources into reporting — stories about real problems with the administration of our elections and the people and organizations trying to rig the upcoming presidential election against Trump and Republicans.”
As long as there have been elections, there has been discontent. And not always peaceful.
It is good to be aware of our news sources and their bias. It is also good to allow others to use other sources. But we should all be looking at them through the lens of Scripture.
“While the propaganda press is a massive problem for the health of our country, the people realizing how completely the corporate media don’t even try to report fairly, fully, or accurately — that is very healthy for our republic.”
Click the link and look at the trust graph. The media is responsible for their own downfall. But they’ll blame their boogie man, Elon’s X, instead of reflecting on how bad they suck at their jobs.
For those interested, there’s some discussion at the end of yesterday’s political thread on “anonymous” posts and the wisdom (biblical and otherwise) of not following that practice.
“Last week, Russell Moore, former ERLC president and editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, wrote a piece about “someone’s” X post that stirred outrage among many professing believers online. The post asserted that the “least of these” in Matthew 25 is not referring to the world’s poor, but persecuted Christians. Moore then went on to liken this person to a “20th century German soldier”—a strangely wordy way to say “Nazi.”
Perhaps Moore thought that not naming me specifically would alleviate any responsibility he has to tell the truth or demonstrate decency. Perhaps he believes that failing to include the post helps him build his strawman so he could more easily tear it down.
From what I’ve learned from those who have known Moore for decades, this is his style: catty and passive aggressive, going for the lowest insults rather than engaging in honest debate. It’s a shame.
Moore incorrectly argued that I had not only gotten my interpretation of Jesus’s words entirely wrong, but that my interpretation is a bizarre and evil attempt to obscure Christians’ call care for the poor. That, of course, is not what I said, nor is it what I meant. Christians should care for the poor; it’s one of the things we do best. But that’s not what that passage is about.
Here was my post: “The least of these” is referring to persecuted Christians, not the poor. So, I’m voting for the set of policies that will best protect the truly least of these: Jack Phillips, Joan Bell, David Daleiden & other believers who have had their lives ruined by progressive activists. No chance I could vote for the party that routinely targets Christians for harassment, discrimination & lawfare.”
Whether one agrees with my conclusion about voting is beside the point, because that’s not what Moore says he took issue with. He—and many other critics— opposes my ‘radical’ interpretation of Matthew 25.
As it turns out, though, it’s not radical at all. It is the interpretation accepted by most church fathers and Christian scholars throughout history.
Augustine: “When He said, “You did it to these,” He did not say, “my brothers,” but He added this when He said, ‘You did it unto me.’ Why, but because they were His members, because He was their head?”
Calvin: “Christ does not here speak of all wretched persons without distinction, but of those who are being tried by the cross, are reckoned as His own people.”
Fast forward a few centuries…
“In the context of Jesus’ teachings, especially in the context of Matthew (as opposed to Luke), this parable addresses not serving all the poor but receiving the gospel’s messengers.” – Craig S. Keener, Matthew, vol. 1, The IVP New Testament Commentary Series (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1997), Mt. 25:31-46.
“The reference to “my brothers” cannot be a reference to all of suffering humanity. “Brother” is never used this way in the New Testament. The word always refers to a physical/blood brother or to the spiritual family of God… Matthew 25 equates caring for Jesus’s spiritual family with caring for Jesus.” – Kevin DeYoung, professor at Reformed Theological Seminary
“In this text, “brothers” is not a generic description of people created in the image of God. Jesus reserves the term “brothers” for those who are his disciples—those who believe and obey his word.” – Denny Burk, professor at Boyce College
Are these men Nazis, too? Or is it just me that’s akin to a 1930s German solider? And is it really because of my interpretation of Matthew 25, or is it because I opposed the progressive dogma he uses to justify his politics? I think we know the answer.”
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Moore’s response, and the reason for the dust up….
“Let’s remember that Obama chum Rob Malley, who brought these Iranian assets into the US government, met with Hamas on more than one occassion. We still don’t really know why he is being investigated. This is far far worse than any Russia collusion bs. Yet, it is barely covered.”
And why is that? Because the media sucks and is biased. They lie to harm Trump with the Russia, Russia, Russia BS, yet when there’s a real problem and actual crimes….
“Breaking: Sky News Arabia reports that a DoD official has identified Ariane Tabatabai as the suspect in the leak of classified documents about a potential Israeli strike on Iran. She is reportedly under investigation by the FBI”
AJ (I presume – BTW, take a look at last night’s comments if you haven’t already) – I certainly do not want to limit your opinion, but to give it more to chew on, so to speak.
Although I realize that you reject sources that you disagree with, I am actually surprised that you would also reject a source that includes a variety of views for a broader understanding. Isaac Saul may be the founder, but his “take” comes at the end and can be ignored, if one wishes. The other “takes” are from a variety of sources, even a variety within each “side” (liberal or conservative).
Re. 11:10 I believe that the criterion of judgment is the response of the nations to Jesus’ disciples, i.e. to disciples in need. So in the end, it’s an indication of their response to Jesus Himself. “The least of these” (or “these little ones” elsewhere) are important b/c of their identification with Jesus.
We have great capacity and potential for showing kindness to Him by showing kindness to those who love Him.
Thank you, Debra, for supplying the Tangle article on what’s happening in NW Carolina. I still don’t know if there are other more mainline news stories about it? Perhaps reporters going to areas where FEMA and Federal funds have impacted and areas not yet reached, stories about plans FEMA has to continue working in the area until things are workable again. Are reporters on the ground looking for stories or is it not politically correct to give the real news about the situation because anything that isn’t the greatest news about the current administration is considered disinformation?
My question may have been overlooked by others or perhaps there are no answers. Just giving an opportunity to those who believe we are being given better news from mainline than we get from social media variety of perspectives from individuals on the ground in the areas.
Janice – Out of curiosity, I googled “Hurricane Helene 2024 North Carolina.” Of the major national news organizations, recent articles came up from CNN, New York Times, and ABC News.
Apparently, unemployment is so low, McDonald’s, desperate for workers, has reversed a long standing practise of not hiring convicted felons
Yelp had to shut down its reviews of one McDonald’s as people complained about a confused senior citizen not wearing a hair net or gloves. Some complained about bronzer and hair plugs in their fries, others though his children should take better care of him in his senior years. Others thought he was too old for the job.
The memes, the comments etc have been filing up my news feed for the last few days. I don’t think anything was gained or lost by the stunt. One wonders about a man who feels the need to cosplay a job his opponent had in her teens. I say cosplay because the McDonald’s was closed during the stunt.
“Except as provided in Article X, Section 22, no law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider.”
DeSantis needs to re-read the above because it doesn’t match his claims.
Some will say the decline in Republican trust in the media is a reflection on the rise of anti-intellectualism in the Republican party or American society in general. Something that’s been said since 1963 and the publication of Anti-intellectualism in American Life.
I rarely trust the media myself but that’s because I view it as enforced by the capitalist narrative and limiting exposure to different options. The current attack by the right on mass media would be amusing but the lack of intellectual rigour behind is both annoying and worrisome.
“LONG OVERDUE JUSTICE! New York Supreme Court reinstates all NYC employees fired for being unvaccinated, orders backpay The court found Monday that ‘being vaccinated does not prevent an individual from contracting or transmitting COVID-19.'””
hrw: What makes you think that Harris ever worked at McDonald’s? Just b/c she said so, when she has lied about so many other things? McDonald’s was not listed on her resumé the year after she graduated from college, so where is the evidence?
“Update: The trans suspect accused of killing a Pennsylvania State Police officer was arrested in June 2023 for felony robbery. Leftist nonbinary Magisterial District Judge Xander Orenstein @xander4mdj quickly released Anthony “Antonia” Quesen without bail. Quesen never showed up to court again and has allegedly gone on to kill.
In April, Judge Orenstein was pulled from arraignment hearings after releasing many felony suspects accused of serious crimes without bail.”
Boy it’s a good thing the media never publishes inflammatory and salacious stories without proof, does their due diligence and thoroughly investigates stories, unlike those pesky X posters. 🙄
“Judge: Maddow, MSNBC Hosts Made ‘Verifiably False’ Statements About Doctor”
“A federal judge said this week that a defamation case against MSNBC can proceed and has a high likelihood of success after ruling that network hosts, including Rachel Maddow, made “verifiably false” statements about a doctor suing for defamation.
In 2020, Dr. Mahendra Amin, an obstetrician-gynecologist working at the Irwin County Detention Center in Georgia, faced serious allegations when a nurse at the facility made a whistleblower complaint. The complaint accused Amin of performing unnecessary hysterectomies on migrant women detained at the center, Fox News reported.
NBC reporters Jacob Soboroff and Julia Ainsley investigated to verify the whistleblower’s allegations against Amin, the report said. Despite facing initial skepticism from NBCUniversal’s standards department, they published an article on the matter.
Subsequently, MSNBC aired a series of reports referring to Amin as the “uterus collector,” though the whistleblower’s claims were never conclusively proven true.“
NBC investigated the whistleblower letter’s accusations; that investigation did not corroborate the accusations and even undermined some; NBC republished the letter’s accusations anyway,” U.S. District Judge Lisa Godbey Wood of the Southern District of Georgia, a George W. Bush appointee, wrote on June 26 in a 108-page summary.
The lawsuit claims that MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace defamed him by making “multiple statements” on-air that were allegedly false. Wallace was the first MSNBC host to discuss the whistleblower’s accusations against Amin and referred to him by name.
“We are following breaking news today. It’s about an alarming new whistleblower complaint that alleges, quote, high numbers of female detainees, detained immigrants, at an ICE detention center in Georgia received questionable hysterectomies while in ICE custody,” Wallace told “Deadline: White House” viewers.
But court documents said that Amin “performed only two hysterectomies on women detained at the facility.”
That same evening, “All In With Chris Hayes” featured an interview with the whistleblower. Hayes’ MSNBC program interviewed a lawyer who asserted that as many as 15 immigrant women were subjected to unnecessary hysterectomies or other procedures.”
Re: the intro to 4:53 above – If you think that my point from a few days ago was related to posts on X, then you completely missed my point.
Whether an unsubstantiated story (i.e. a rumor) comes from X or a source on the left or one in the middle, is not the point. The point is that as believers, it is wrong for us to share those kinds of stories, the ones that can ruin a person’s reputation. The Bible takes that kind of thing very seriously. Even many unbelievers are cautious about spreading stories like that.
If eventually it becomes a court case of some kind, criminal or civil, then that would be news, but strictly as a legal allegation.
Recently, Huntington Beach voters made it clear they want voter ID for local elections, narrowly approving a measure that will go into effect in 2026. But instead of respecting the will of the people, Attorney General Rob Bonta and Secretary of State Shirley Weber have launched a lawsuit against the city, claiming that voter ID requirements are illegal under state law. You have to wonder, why is California so hell-bent on making it easier to cheat in elections?
Ok ok… I own it… I thought Dj had a barking tree!!!!!
Tychicus, I worked at a McDonald’s for more than a year, in a particular McDonald’s where the average length of work was only three months. (The company-wide average was a year, so we were a uniquely hard place to work, and working there for 14 or 15 months showed a good amount of stamina.)
On a job application that asked for previous work history, I would have listed McDonald’s up till I graduated from college, and after that I would have ignored it as irrelevant. It would not have gone on my resume. It was a part-time job that I hated and that I stopped mentioning as soon as it became irrelevant. My post-college resume might have made some general reference to service jobs or jobs working with the public that would make a nod to the job at McDonald’s, the full-time job at Revco Drug that I held for the last two years before college, and some of my jobs while I attended college–but I never ever named McDonald’s on my resume as far as I remember, and I doubt most people do.
And honestly, I have no idea if I would be able to “prove” I ever worked at McDonald’s, because I have no idea what kind of records the corporate office keeps. I did work at a corporate store, not a franchise; my hunch is that the records for franchises are fairly spotty and depend on how well the franchisee kept records and how long they kept those records–if the store was sold to a new owner 20 years ago, would anyone have records from 25 years ago? I have a photo or two of myself in a McDonald’s uniform, but I don’t know if that would qualify as proof.
I’m not saying she told the truth about working at McDonald’s. I frankly don’t care whether she ever did or didn’t work there. I’m saying that absence of proof does not constitute proof of a lie.
Interesting, Cheryl, made me realize that I, too, would not have included that I’d worked at the Sears Snack Bar in Inglewood for very long on any job history I had to produce. Those jobs were pretty common growing up, though.
With my last local election story turned in, I’m helping out reading “scary story” entries from area students today, it’s part of a contest our papers sponsor.
Was slacking my editor about dealing with a rat that’s gotten into the house and mentioned how my last cat would bring live mice in to play with them (and ultimately kill them). He replied: “Cats are such tiny psychopaths”
I thought we were exchanging memes that Trump’s McDonald’s adventure has produced. I was amused by Tychicus contribution so I thought I’d share a few I came across.
I worked in the restaurant industry throughout my university years but never put it on my resume once I started looking for a “profession” job.
AJ – I’m quite sure “viability” is 20 – 24 weeks and is an attempt to refer to Roe vs Wade’s trimester approach.
“Restaurant industry” sounds much more impressive than being a “Sears snack bar” girl. I might have used that on a resume, or maybe not. The Sears store I worked at — a couple blocks from the Forum and now So-Fi Stadium next door — isn’t even there anymore, replaced years ago by a humongous Vons Market. Kinda sad.
What’s most revealing is that given a task to “List all previous employment” on a job application right out of college, some here didn’t or wouldn’t do so.
Depends on the application, some limit the time to more recent years and employment (last 10 years or whatever). The longer the time between those early jobs many of us had part-time while in college, the less it would be asked about. How about babysitting in high school, would that count? 🙂
I haven’t kept up with the Harris / McDonald’s drama so I’m not sure what the controversy specifically is, sounds like it’s not showing up in any of her official bio or job history info?
(I probably did list Sears right out of college in job applications as it was the most recent work history I had at that time; really don’t remember, that’s been a while ago.)
Tychicus, your wording (“revealing”) suggests that you “caught” some of us in an untruth: “What’s most revealing is that given a task to ‘List all previous employment’ on a job application right out of college, some here didn’t or wouldn’t do so.”
Actually, I edited my comment before I posted it to delete “last ten years” because in that instance I would of course have listed McDonald’s. But the truth is that since college I have never “applied” for any job except the editing job I took straight from college–and I “went through the back door” to get that job, since I was hired for a temporary job and it turned into a permanent position, and I had already done an internship at the publisher. Since then I have been freelance. (Actually, I did do one evening job in Nashville that would have required an application, but it was 15 years or so after McDonald’s.) My major comment was in response to Harris not listing McDonald’s on her resume–unlike an application, a resume doesn’t always list every job. I had a number of part-time jobs during college, and “yearbook editor” is the only one that made it onto my resume, since it was the only really relevant one. None of my pre-college jobs, even the two-year full-time job, made it onto my resume.
Wandering Views 
Democrats claim they don’t support late term abortion.
But they lie.
https://x.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1848444018059091979?t=wrGnjtq_T6i6rR71cEtLQA&s=19
“Left-wing groups, financed by tens of millions of dollars in out-of-state funding, wrote Amendment 4 in an intentionally vague manner to deceive Floridians and downplay the true consequences of enshrining such extreme measures into our constitution.
Amendment 4 eliminates the requirement that doctors be involved in abortion procedures, and eliminates the right of parents to consent for their minor children to undergo this major medical procedure.
That’s why the doctors I met with today in Coral Gables, and hundreds of their colleagues practicing medicine throughout the state, are against Amendment 4.
If Amendment 4 passes, there would be no meaningful limits on abortion, allowing abortions up to the moment of birth for virtually any reason.
Amendment 4 would allow people who are not licensed doctors to perform risky medical procedures—even surgical abortions—on minors without their parents’ consent.”
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https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1848481269178388693?t=noqkPbIbYAJd3dnyMlvDpg&s=19
“New polling shows support for Florida’s Amendment 4 is plummeting fast – down 9 points!
It’s right on the threshold to pass, so it’s going to come down to turnout
Everyone needs to vote NO on 4 which would authorize late term abortion in Florida”
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The economy is so bad that we now have billionaires manning the fry station at McDonald’s. 😉
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Some may chose to give Tangle credibility because it’s news they like. I chose not to based upon who the founder, and his previous employers are. Opinions vary.
Same goes for the WSJ. Some give it credibility, others see it as having sold out its ideals because Orange Man Bad, and now see it as just another left wing rag with a Never Trump agenda.
Again, opinions vary. You don’t get to limit mine, and I never limit yours. See how that works?
https://x.com/MZHemingway/status/1848722108634865976?t=6WsSj-uYsByOcK09UxM0gg&s=19
“This is a great take-down by @johnddavidson of a pathetic and embarrassing WSJ article that uses the ridiculous propaganda term and framing of “election denier” to describe critics of some election administration problems”
https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1848724819962904601?t=Eoy3RNkBeHiHSiAq5DhTYg&s=19
“The fall of the once reliable WSJ and descent into NYT/WP territory is one of the bleakest examples of the national media destroying itself.”
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https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/22/asking-questions-about-election-integrity-doesnt-make-someone-an-election-denier/
“If Americans have questions and concerns about how our elections are administered and how ballots are tabulated, does that make them “election deniers,” conspiracy theorists, threats to democracy?
The Wall Street Journal seems to think so. In a long news report published over the weekend headlined, “‘It Feels Very Dystopian.’ Republican County Officials Brace for Election Deniers—Again,” the Journal repeatedly characterized those who think the 2020 election was stolen, rigged, or less-than-secure as “election deniers,” and stopped just short of calling them domestic terrorists.
“The piece is framed as a disturbing look at the growing threats facing local election officials from “election deniers” — an asinine epithet — as we approach November 5: “Four years of baseless allegations of election fraud have created an atmosphere of fear and intimidation among election officials from Atlanta to rural Washington state, transforming the way workers in many parts of the country are approaching the most fundamental of civic duties.”
Election officials, workers, and even volunteers have been forced to take extraordinary measures to protect themselves, we’re told. Active shooter drills, barricading exercises, trauma kits, bulletproof glass, and bulletproof vests have all become commonplace in election offices across the country. Scary stuff.
And it’s all Trump’s fault, apparently.”
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Some love the WSJ, I think it’s just another bunch of pearl clutching, hand wringing, Never Trumpers. They’ve become shills for the establishment. They’re no longer to be taken seriously as a result of their obvious anti-Trump bias.
Ya’ll can continue to give them credibility based on their past, but I chose not to based on what they’ve become in the present.
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“The former would mean falsely cast or illegally changed ballots, which is difficult to prove took place on a scale large enough to change the outcome of the election, while latter would mean the sort of things that really did happen in 2020: last-minute changes to how absentee ballots are processed and counted, widespread social media censorship by Big Tech in collusion with corporate media, and the flooding erstwhile nonpartisan local election offices with hundreds of millions in “Zuckbucks” to get out the vote in heavily Democrat areas. And that’s just to name a few of the ways Democrats rigged the last election.
The Journal isn’t interested in any of these things and doesn’t mention them in its report. Instead, it presents all the fears and safety concerns from poll workers and election officials as justified. It also presents threats of violence as representative of Trump voters generally, even though it only mentions three cases where individuals have been prosecuted for making threats against election officials.
The entire frame and premise of the piece is designed to gaslight readers into thinking that election officials nationwide are being hunted by rabid Trump supporters who have been hoodwinked into believing an outlandish conspiracy theory about the 2020 election.
That’s too bad, because there are plenty of election-related stories the Journal could have put its considerable resources into reporting — stories about real problems with the administration of our elections and the people and organizations trying to rig the upcoming presidential election against Trump and Republicans.”
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It’s just another NeverTrump rag now.
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Thank you, the real.
As long as there have been elections, there has been discontent. And not always peaceful.
It is good to be aware of our news sources and their bias. It is also good to allow others to use other sources. But we should all be looking at them through the lens of Scripture.
mumsee
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Remember, the media built this with their own bias and dishonesty.
https://x.com/MZHemingway/status/1848721420362072570?t=PARGkja0lLFVOJpT1ExaDg&s=19
“While the propaganda press is a massive problem for the health of our country, the people realizing how completely the corporate media don’t even try to report fairly, fully, or accurately — that is very healthy for our republic.”
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“Devastating.
And a massive problem for a healthy democracy.”
https://x.com/ChrisCillizza/status/1848701953439601015?t=T7YWUBAiCeKWtuUJ45yiCA&s=19
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Click the link and look at the trust graph. The media is responsible for their own downfall. But they’ll blame their boogie man, Elon’s X, instead of reflecting on how bad they suck at their jobs.
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Tychicus, 😀
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For those interested, there’s some discussion at the end of yesterday’s political thread on “anonymous” posts and the wisdom (biblical and otherwise) of not following that practice.
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Ty @10:10, 🙂 Good one.
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Thoughts?
https://x.com/conservmillen/status/1848428254392184852?t=ReySwg_TPKCWzvxYuHROFQ&s=19
“Last week, Russell Moore, former ERLC president and editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, wrote a piece about “someone’s” X post that stirred outrage among many professing believers online. The post asserted that the “least of these” in Matthew 25 is not referring to the world’s poor, but persecuted Christians. Moore then went on to liken this person to a “20th century German soldier”—a strangely wordy way to say “Nazi.”
Perhaps Moore thought that not naming me specifically would alleviate any responsibility he has to tell the truth or demonstrate decency. Perhaps he believes that failing to include the post helps him build his strawman so he could more easily tear it down.
From what I’ve learned from those who have known Moore for decades, this is his style: catty and passive aggressive, going for the lowest insults rather than engaging in honest debate. It’s a shame.
Moore incorrectly argued that I had not only gotten my interpretation of Jesus’s words entirely wrong, but that my interpretation is a bizarre and evil attempt to obscure Christians’ call care for the poor. That, of course, is not what I said, nor is it what I meant. Christians should care for the poor; it’s one of the things we do best. But that’s not what that passage is about.
Here was my post: “The least of these” is referring to persecuted Christians, not the poor. So, I’m voting for the set of policies that will best protect the truly least of these: Jack Phillips, Joan Bell, David Daleiden & other believers who have had their lives ruined by progressive activists. No chance I could vote for the party that routinely targets Christians for harassment, discrimination & lawfare.”
Whether one agrees with my conclusion about voting is beside the point, because that’s not what Moore says he took issue with. He—and many other critics— opposes my ‘radical’ interpretation of Matthew 25.
As it turns out, though, it’s not radical at all. It is the interpretation accepted by most church fathers and Christian scholars throughout history.
Augustine: “When He said, “You did it to these,” He did not say, “my brothers,” but He added this when He said, ‘You did it unto me.’ Why, but because they were His members, because He was their head?”
Calvin: “Christ does not here speak of all wretched persons without distinction, but of those who are being tried by the cross, are reckoned as His own people.”
Fast forward a few centuries…
“In the context of Jesus’ teachings, especially in the context of Matthew (as opposed to Luke), this parable addresses not serving all the poor but receiving the gospel’s messengers.” – Craig S. Keener, Matthew, vol. 1, The IVP New Testament Commentary Series (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1997), Mt. 25:31-46.
“The reference to “my brothers” cannot be a reference to all of suffering humanity. “Brother” is never used this way in the New Testament. The word always refers to a physical/blood brother or to the spiritual family of God… Matthew 25 equates caring for Jesus’s spiritual family with caring for Jesus.” – Kevin DeYoung, professor at Reformed Theological Seminary
“In this text, “brothers” is not a generic description of people created in the image of God. Jesus reserves the term “brothers” for those who are his disciples—those who believe and obey his word.” – Denny Burk, professor at Boyce College
Are these men Nazis, too? Or is it just me that’s akin to a 1930s German solider? And is it really because of my interpretation of Matthew 25, or is it because I opposed the progressive dogma he uses to justify his politics? I think we know the answer.”
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Moore’s response, and the reason for the dust up….
https://x.com/drmoore/status/1846909337312141680?t=Qwjq4XtsdmkmmKDsg_Jb8w&s=19
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“Let’s remember that Obama chum Rob Malley, who brought these Iranian assets into the US government, met with Hamas on more than one occassion. We still don’t really know why he is being investigated. This is far far worse than any Russia collusion bs. Yet, it is barely covered.”
https://x.com/davidharsanyi/status/1848742700704797046?t=dQP74JQ1Dsi6GwWn6Ut37A&s=19
And why is that? Because the media sucks and is biased. They lie to harm Trump with the Russia, Russia, Russia BS, yet when there’s a real problem and actual crimes….
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https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1848727955742056604?t=vTeUdhkX0dNTUNrQ9xEKbg&s=19
“Breaking: Sky News Arabia reports that a DoD official has identified Ariane Tabatabai as the suspect in the leak of classified documents about a potential Israeli strike on Iran. She is reportedly under investigation by the FBI”
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AJ (I presume – BTW, take a look at last night’s comments if you haven’t already) – I certainly do not want to limit your opinion, but to give it more to chew on, so to speak.
Although I realize that you reject sources that you disagree with, I am actually surprised that you would also reject a source that includes a variety of views for a broader understanding. Isaac Saul may be the founder, but his “take” comes at the end and can be ignored, if one wishes. The other “takes” are from a variety of sources, even a variety within each “side” (liberal or conservative).
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Re. 11:10 I believe that the criterion of judgment is the response of the nations to Jesus’ disciples, i.e. to disciples in need. So in the end, it’s an indication of their response to Jesus Himself. “The least of these” (or “these little ones” elsewhere) are important b/c of their identification with Jesus.
We have great capacity and potential for showing kindness to Him by showing kindness to those who love Him.
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Thank you, Debra, for supplying the Tangle article on what’s happening in NW Carolina. I still don’t know if there are other more mainline news stories about it? Perhaps reporters going to areas where FEMA and Federal funds have impacted and areas not yet reached, stories about plans FEMA has to continue working in the area until things are workable again. Are reporters on the ground looking for stories or is it not politically correct to give the real news about the situation because anything that isn’t the greatest news about the current administration is considered disinformation?
My question may have been overlooked by others or perhaps there are no answers. Just giving an opportunity to those who believe we are being given better news from mainline than we get from social media variety of perspectives from individuals on the ground in the areas.
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Janice – Out of curiosity, I googled “Hurricane Helene 2024 North Carolina.” Of the major national news organizations, recent articles came up from CNN, New York Times, and ABC News.
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Apparently, unemployment is so low, McDonald’s, desperate for workers, has reversed a long standing practise of not hiring convicted felons
Yelp had to shut down its reviews of one McDonald’s as people complained about a confused senior citizen not wearing a hair net or gloves. Some complained about bronzer and hair plugs in their fries, others though his children should take better care of him in his senior years. Others thought he was too old for the job.
The memes, the comments etc have been filing up my news feed for the last few days. I don’t think anything was gained or lost by the stunt. One wonders about a man who feels the need to cosplay a job his opponent had in her teens. I say cosplay because the McDonald’s was closed during the stunt.
hrw
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Here’s Florida’s Amendment Four;
“Except as provided in Article X, Section 22, no law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider.”
DeSantis needs to re-read the above because it doesn’t match his claims.
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Some will say the decline in Republican trust in the media is a reflection on the rise of anti-intellectualism in the Republican party or American society in general. Something that’s been said since 1963 and the publication of Anti-intellectualism in American Life.
I rarely trust the media myself but that’s because I view it as enforced by the capitalist narrative and limiting exposure to different options. The current attack by the right on mass media would be amusing but the lack of intellectual rigour behind is both annoying and worrisome.
hrw
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Enjoy your childish “convicted felon” BS while you can, because it’s getting overturned real soon.
But truth and justice never did matter to you, right?
Just Orange Man Bad.
It’s quite pathetic really.
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Justice.
https://x.com/TomFitton/status/1848819828297187590?t=Z2KYvzT-XppdKdM3UveNlQ&s=19
“LONG OVERDUE JUSTICE! New York Supreme Court reinstates all NYC employees fired for being unvaccinated, orders backpay The court found Monday that ‘being vaccinated does not prevent an individual from contracting or transmitting COVID-19.'””
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hrw: What makes you think that Harris ever worked at McDonald’s? Just b/c she said so, when she has lied about so many other things? McDonald’s was not listed on her resumé the year after she graduated from college, so where is the evidence?
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DeSantis is fine, but your reading comprehension seems sub par…
“or restrict abortion before viability……”
That means abortion up until birth.
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Degenerate judge releases degenerate criminal, state police worker dead as a result.
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1848823325943845175?t=BG63Ua0EiXaDWd9jV3Te7g&s=19
“Update: The trans suspect accused of killing a Pennsylvania State Police officer was arrested in June 2023 for felony robbery. Leftist nonbinary Magisterial District Judge Xander Orenstein @xander4mdj quickly released Anthony “Antonia” Quesen without bail. Quesen never showed up to court again and has allegedly gone on to kill.
In April, Judge Orenstein was pulled from arraignment hearings after releasing many felony suspects accused of serious crimes without bail.”
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Boy it’s a good thing the media never publishes inflammatory and salacious stories without proof, does their due diligence and thoroughly investigates stories, unlike those pesky X posters. 🙄
Oh wait….
https://x.com/DineshDSouza/status/1848793948418150899?t=nyGnQIJ36Luu4cHfd6JSRQ&s=19
“Maddow’s massive blunder could cost MSNBC $30 million!”
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https://conservativebrief.com/judge-rules-maddow-84301/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJD
“Judge: Maddow, MSNBC Hosts Made ‘Verifiably False’ Statements About Doctor”
“A federal judge said this week that a defamation case against MSNBC can proceed and has a high likelihood of success after ruling that network hosts, including Rachel Maddow, made “verifiably false” statements about a doctor suing for defamation.
In 2020, Dr. Mahendra Amin, an obstetrician-gynecologist working at the Irwin County Detention Center in Georgia, faced serious allegations when a nurse at the facility made a whistleblower complaint. The complaint accused Amin of performing unnecessary hysterectomies on migrant women detained at the center, Fox News reported.
NBC reporters Jacob Soboroff and Julia Ainsley investigated to verify the whistleblower’s allegations against Amin, the report said. Despite facing initial skepticism from NBCUniversal’s standards department, they published an article on the matter.
Subsequently, MSNBC aired a series of reports referring to Amin as the “uterus collector,” though the whistleblower’s claims were never conclusively proven true.“
NBC investigated the whistleblower letter’s accusations; that investigation did not corroborate the accusations and even undermined some; NBC republished the letter’s accusations anyway,” U.S. District Judge Lisa Godbey Wood of the Southern District of Georgia, a George W. Bush appointee, wrote on June 26 in a 108-page summary.
The lawsuit claims that MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace defamed him by making “multiple statements” on-air that were allegedly false. Wallace was the first MSNBC host to discuss the whistleblower’s accusations against Amin and referred to him by name.
“We are following breaking news today. It’s about an alarming new whistleblower complaint that alleges, quote, high numbers of female detainees, detained immigrants, at an ICE detention center in Georgia received questionable hysterectomies while in ICE custody,” Wallace told “Deadline: White House” viewers.
But court documents said that Amin “performed only two hysterectomies on women detained at the facility.”
That same evening, “All In With Chris Hayes” featured an interview with the whistleblower. Hayes’ MSNBC program interviewed a lawyer who asserted that as many as 15 immigrant women were subjected to unnecessary hysterectomies or other procedures.”
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Walz could do the same, but hasn’t, which is odd.
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Re: the intro to 4:53 above – If you think that my point from a few days ago was related to posts on X, then you completely missed my point.
Whether an unsubstantiated story (i.e. a rumor) comes from X or a source on the left or one in the middle, is not the point. The point is that as believers, it is wrong for us to share those kinds of stories, the ones that can ruin a person’s reputation. The Bible takes that kind of thing very seriously. Even many unbelievers are cautious about spreading stories like that.
If eventually it becomes a court case of some kind, criminal or civil, then that would be news, but strictly as a legal allegation.
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hrw: it brought levity and joy and fun to a difficult time.
the real, I thought viability was when a baby could live independent of mom. Maybe just premature, maybe in an incubator with tubes attached.
mumsee
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As for HRW’s post at 3:33, it looks to me like the first two paragraphs are referring to the memes he mentions in the last paragraph.
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Speaking of reading comprehension, AJ, there are times when you misread or misunderstand a comment. Perhaps you should put down the stones.
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California is Californian again! 🤪
Recently, Huntington Beach voters made it clear they want voter ID for local elections, narrowly approving a measure that will go into effect in 2026. But instead of respecting the will of the people, Attorney General Rob Bonta and Secretary of State Shirley Weber have launched a lawsuit against the city, claiming that voter ID requirements are illegal under state law. You have to wonder, why is California so hell-bent on making it easier to cheat in elections?
Ok ok… I own it… I thought Dj had a barking tree!!!!!
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The news here says that already one quarter of registered voters have voted early.
$144,000,000 has been spent in Georgia on political ads in Georgia.
Two more weeks of the negative ads. News said Dems are outspending the Republicans.
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That was one quarter of Georgia registered voters have already voted.
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Do you find it peculiar that all people seem to be doing these days is suing others?
To quote Rodney King: “Why CAN’T we get along?”
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Tychicus, I worked at a McDonald’s for more than a year, in a particular McDonald’s where the average length of work was only three months. (The company-wide average was a year, so we were a uniquely hard place to work, and working there for 14 or 15 months showed a good amount of stamina.)
On a job application that asked for previous work history, I would have listed McDonald’s up till I graduated from college, and after that I would have ignored it as irrelevant. It would not have gone on my resume. It was a part-time job that I hated and that I stopped mentioning as soon as it became irrelevant. My post-college resume might have made some general reference to service jobs or jobs working with the public that would make a nod to the job at McDonald’s, the full-time job at Revco Drug that I held for the last two years before college, and some of my jobs while I attended college–but I never ever named McDonald’s on my resume as far as I remember, and I doubt most people do.
And honestly, I have no idea if I would be able to “prove” I ever worked at McDonald’s, because I have no idea what kind of records the corporate office keeps. I did work at a corporate store, not a franchise; my hunch is that the records for franchises are fairly spotty and depend on how well the franchisee kept records and how long they kept those records–if the store was sold to a new owner 20 years ago, would anyone have records from 25 years ago? I have a photo or two of myself in a McDonald’s uniform, but I don’t know if that would qualify as proof.
I’m not saying she told the truth about working at McDonald’s. I frankly don’t care whether she ever did or didn’t work there. I’m saying that absence of proof does not constitute proof of a lie.
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Interesting, Cheryl, made me realize that I, too, would not have included that I’d worked at the Sears Snack Bar in Inglewood for very long on any job history I had to produce. Those jobs were pretty common growing up, though.
With my last local election story turned in, I’m helping out reading “scary story” entries from area students today, it’s part of a contest our papers sponsor.
Was slacking my editor about dealing with a rat that’s gotten into the house and mentioned how my last cat would bring live mice in to play with them (and ultimately kill them). He replied: “Cats are such tiny psychopaths”
Pretty much true!
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I have lots of trees, but none of them bark! 🙂
I do have a hiccuping dog, however.
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Oh, I thought this was the daily thread 🙂
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DJ – I want to know what slacking your editor means. 😀
(I know what you meant, though. 🙂 )
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Cheryl had an excellent point on yesterday’s continuing news thread. (Her comment at 6:32.)
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AJ and Tychicus,
I thought we were exchanging memes that Trump’s McDonald’s adventure has produced. I was amused by Tychicus contribution so I thought I’d share a few I came across.
I worked in the restaurant industry throughout my university years but never put it on my resume once I started looking for a “profession” job.
AJ – I’m quite sure “viability” is 20 – 24 weeks and is an attempt to refer to Roe vs Wade’s trimester approach.
hrw
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“Restaurant industry” sounds much more impressive than being a “Sears snack bar” girl. I might have used that on a resume, or maybe not. The Sears store I worked at — a couple blocks from the Forum and now So-Fi Stadium next door — isn’t even there anymore, replaced years ago by a humongous Vons Market. Kinda sad.
We love slack and yes, it’s become a verb.
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This thread is kinda crazy — just as an exercise, try scanning it fairly quickly and it will make your head spin.
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What’s most revealing is that given a task to “List all previous employment” on a job application right out of college, some here didn’t or wouldn’t do so.
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Depends on the application, some limit the time to more recent years and employment (last 10 years or whatever). The longer the time between those early jobs many of us had part-time while in college, the less it would be asked about. How about babysitting in high school, would that count? 🙂
I haven’t kept up with the Harris / McDonald’s drama so I’m not sure what the controversy specifically is, sounds like it’s not showing up in any of her official bio or job history info?
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(I probably did list Sears right out of college in job applications as it was the most recent work history I had at that time; really don’t remember, that’s been a while ago.)
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Many years later would be a different story, of course, but we were talking about right after college, as in Kamala’s case.
From Rick Grenell: “51 former intelligence officials say that Kamala worked at McDonalds.”
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Tychicus, your wording (“revealing”) suggests that you “caught” some of us in an untruth: “What’s most revealing is that given a task to ‘List all previous employment’ on a job application right out of college, some here didn’t or wouldn’t do so.”
Actually, I edited my comment before I posted it to delete “last ten years” because in that instance I would of course have listed McDonald’s. But the truth is that since college I have never “applied” for any job except the editing job I took straight from college–and I “went through the back door” to get that job, since I was hired for a temporary job and it turned into a permanent position, and I had already done an internship at the publisher. Since then I have been freelance. (Actually, I did do one evening job in Nashville that would have required an application, but it was 15 years or so after McDonald’s.) My major comment was in response to Harris not listing McDonald’s on her resume–unlike an application, a resume doesn’t always list every job. I had a number of part-time jobs during college, and “yearbook editor” is the only one that made it onto my resume, since it was the only really relevant one. None of my pre-college jobs, even the two-year full-time job, made it onto my resume.
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