23 thoughts on “News/Politics 6-3-24

  1. So over a million dead, yet those responsible made 710 million off their dirty deeds.

    https://x.com/Travis_4_Trump/status/1797446547023487291?t=6TEx6UWfGgC7jvPXHgjrDA&s=19

    “This is absolutely insane. This should be the biggest story in the history of the United States.

    The government scientist, who are supposed to protect us, not only funded research for a virus that was released upon us, but they made a profit from pushing the vaccine for it without even knowing if it was safe.

    I can’t say what should be done on X without being banned, but this makes my blood boil”

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  2. TDS is an ugly disease.

    https://x.com/Travis_4_Trump/status/1797246096185450508?t=KUEe0mYm5oe-vkgunTSjzg&s=19

    “George Conway is the perfect example of how Trump Derangement Syndrome can absolutely destroy your life, because nothing matters except “getting Trump.”

    In 2016 he had a good marriage, great kids, and a normal life.

    His wife had a great job working for the President of the United States and he was an experienced attorney with major wins.

    Now, his wife left him, his daughter has publicly attacked him for his Trump obsessive post, and his entire life is built around his hate for Trump.

    The dude needs to seriously seek therapy. I honestly believe he’s not doing it for the money. He genuinely doesn’t like Trump. “

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  3. A corrupt Colorado Secretary of State tried to block Pres. Trump from the primary ballot, claiming he violated the 14th Amendment Insurrection Clause. That was the ‘legal’ basis, but Pres. Trump was never convicted of violating that law.

    Similarly, the NY felony enhancement for falsification of records was based on Federal Campaign Finance violations, with the Trump Organization reimbursing an extortionist to avoid a costly defamation lawsuit.

    Pres. Trump’s filing it as a legal cost was investigated but cleared by the FEC, so he was never indicted or convicted of what NY’s DA claimed to be a crime. This led to ‘tolling’ of the statutes of limitation on a misdemeanor!

    Like the Insurrection Clause, Pres. Trump was never found guilty of Campaign Finance violations, the ‘accounting’ as legal costs having been made AFTER THE ELECTION! No election, no campaign funding.

    Crime? What crime? (Other than leading Biden in the polls… a Class E Felony!) Only the federal system can investigate and indict Pres. Trump for FEC violations!

    The felony enhancement, like the Insurrection Clause in Colorado, was a violation of jurisprudence and jurisdiction.

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  4. Tychicus – It may surprise you and AJ to know that I also am skeptical of the validity of Trump’s trial and conviction.

    There is one particular thing in your comment, though, that I have doubts about. A different view on that from a Facebook friend (one who keeps up on the news, reading a variety of sources, not just any random person giving their opinion):

    “People keep saying Stormy Daniels extorted Trump. But she didn’t. She tried to sell her story to a magazine in 2011, long before he ran for president. Trump threatened to sue the magazine to stop it. He didn’t pay her, she didn’t seek payment. It was only after the Access Hollywood audio came out that Trump sent Cohen to pay Stormy Daniels to keep quiet.

    He never tried to pay her off to prevent Melania from finding out. This shows that he paid her off only when it was about the campaign. That she never extorted him.”

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  5. And speaking of the Trump trial, here’s the WSJ editorial from today:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-republicans-hate-the-trump-verdict-election-guilty-59138627?st=lcjkamg3hwipun4&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Political opinions need to be open to conclusions your opponents don’t expect — because real life is like that.

    One side is not always right and the other side is not always wrong. Arguing based on that kind of formula just comes off as opinionated and unfair.

    • dj

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  6. I listened to part of a Colin Smith sermon this morning during my exercise. He was talking about Isaiah and the coming life with God. Mentioned that redeemed Hutu’s and Tutsi’s would be there and get along. Redeemed Israeli’s and Arab’s as well. Even redeemed Republicans and redeemed Democrats would be there, getting along.

    mumsee

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  7. Kizzie,

    Here’s the thing. The original story according to Cohen, Trump never knew until after the payment was made.

    Now he has flipped his testimony completely. Keep in mind he’s a convicted perjurer, lying under oath, and who admitted during the trial to stealing 160k from Trump, his customer and client.

    To now believe your friend’s timeline is accurate, you have to take the word of a convicted perjurer/thief who has changed his testimony to get there.

    See my issue?

    Did Trump know? At some point, probably. But it’s not unheard of for lawyers and tabloids to quietly do these types of unsavory agreements and payoffs all the time, with out giving too many details to the boss. Even Congress does this.

    This is a farce using an embarrassing event 20 years in a man’s past to drag him thru the mud on a process crime, which has a usual penalty that is typically like fines.

    This trial was the real crime. But folks strain at gnats looking to “Get Trump”. It’s ridiculous.

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  8. My point is that it’s bothersome to hear folks complain about the tiniest factoid, but have nothing to say on the overall farce that has occurred with a conflicted judge whose family is making millions going after Trump with Dem members of Congress. and his limiting a man’s defense to said process crime, denial of experts to make a defense, and who sided with the prosecution at every turn.

    This. Will. Not. Survive. Appeals. This will go all the way to the SC. Hundred million being wasted on a process crime of $130k, because Orange Man Bad.

    This is our govt at work. It’s idiocracy as the movie called it.

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  9. OK, here’s a rather remarkable — and honest, thoughtful — piece that chronicles one political commentators journey through all of this, finding no shortage of conflict in his own mind: argues it’s possible to think 2 things at once:

    From Guy Benson (of Fox News) a few days ago following the verdict:

    ~ My job is to synthesize political developments and analyze them.  I’ll confess that right now, I’m at a loss.  We’ve encountered countless highly unusual or unprecedented moments in our politics over the last eight years or so — but this one is unlike anything we’ve ever witnessed.  Quite literally.  A former President of the United States, and a current leading contender for the presidency, has been convicted of 34 felonies by a New York jury.  The ‘crimes’ in question were internal corporate bookkeeping mis-categorizations ‘committed’ nine years ago.  There was no victim in these bookkeeping mis-categorizations, which were subsequently deemed records falsifications.  Misdemeanors.  They stemmed from a sexual encounter Donald Trump had with a porn star, which he sought to cover up via a nondisclosure agreement.  The woman was paid six figures to abide by the agreement.  The money was furnished to her by Trump’s sleazy personal lawyer. Trump then reimbursed said sleazy lawyer over a period of time.  This is all very sordid business.  None of it was criminal.  Those reimbursement payments were categorized as legal fees, as selected from a pre-populated drop-down menu embedded in the company’s software. They were not listed as “hush money payments to a porn star.”  …

    … Whether one wants to call this a ‘rigged’ trial, or simply observe that the deck was stacked against Trump in astonishing ways, is a rhetorical matter.  Smart legal minds from across the spectrum seem to agree that there are ample grounds for ‘reversible error’ appeals, on multiple fronts. But in some important ways, that’s beside the point.  The goal here, as I see it, has been to emblazon ‘convicted felon’ across Donald Trump’s forehead prior to the election, then repeat those two words endlessly until November. …

    … I have found Donald Trump to be a volatile, capricious, myopic, petty man for as long as I’ve been aware of his existence.  I have voted against him in two presidential primaries (and would have a third time if my state’s Republican Party hadn’t canceled its nominating contest in 2020, in obsequious deference to the incumbent).  I have voted against him (third party/write-in) in two general elections. My full intention has been to do so again this November, despite my deep opposition to the governance of the Biden administration.  Biden has been a far worse president than I’d expected, and my expectations were low.  The reason I’ve been planning to nevertheless vote for someone other than Donald Trump once again is that he has always been fundamentally unfit for high office, in my opinion.  Many disagree, and I respect that difference of opinion.  But that was, and is, my assessment, even as I supported many of the positive outcomes he achieved during his presidential term. …

    ____________- end of quoted material – _________

    So guess what?

    If you read on at the link below, you will see that Benson is considering casting a vote this time for Trump(!) – yes, that’s correct – though surely with his past reservations still in place.

    I think this is how this campaign is impacting so many voters who feel whipsawed, back and forth. These are not easy times.

    In fact, this is probably the most angry national election I can recall. I have no idea how it all ends. And it may (probably?) not end with the election, however it turns out. It’s also the most surprising in many ways – and has caused the most confusion, bitterness and rancor I’ve ever seen unfolding within this country.

    How it all turns out remains a mystery (but God knows, of course, and yeah, you knew I’d say that at some point 🙂 ).

    • dj

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2024/05/31/how-might-voters-react-to-a-trump-conviction-n2639727?fbclid=IwAR2MBkIRV4QDV4zHKWYItu-d5Dlt-b1S9YU56hM1b7u9WwORLzeIkcfkOQ4

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  10. Benson’s PS after posting the link on X was that he was sure this would be “likely displeasing to nearly everyone on here. But it’s what I believe & how I’m feeling”

    And I get that.

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  11. Oh I don’t know, AJ. I can see your point, that factoids can be rubble, but they can occasionally be gold nuggets—which is why I take them seriously. On the other hand, I have too often been accused of missing the forest for the trees. So perhaps I see a little of myself in the complaint. 😉

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  12. Can we survive a last-minute surprise? I think probably not. We’re all about exhausted at this point.

    A good many voters want neither of these candidates, but I can’t see anything changing this late in the game.

    Then again …

    Nah.

    Right?

    ?

    This is the strangest election year I’ve witnessed.

    • dj

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  13. I did not see any mayhem in the streets after the verdict. Some people are trying to play by the rules, letting the legal process play out. It would be good if both sides could choose that.

    mumsee

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  14. The main point in the comment that I quoted earlier – whether Trump ordered the payment or Cohen did it on his own – was that Stormy Daniels did not extort Trump, but was paid off to keep quiet anyway. That is how it looks, at least, from the timing.

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