49 thoughts on “News/Politics 3-16-24

  1. Nope, no fraud here….

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  2. Thank Senile Joe.

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  3. Huh.

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  4. Living here has made me aware of the corruption that has been allowed to escalate over the years for various reasons. Some because of the race card, others because of the good old boys club, and then the influx of money from the Hollywood crowds, andcof course, the gangs big cities get infected with. That is why I had trouble trudting election results. Along with my personal friend receiving a ballot from Stacey Abrams who had personally called her. Thrre were so many ballots floatinggv around here, such easy temptation for anyone so inclined.

    I really felt sorry for the young judge on the Willis case. If one goes by the Christian list of priorities: God first, family second, and work third, I could see how he made that decision to pass the buck along. I think he realized she had done enough that other groups with more protection could pursue the ultimate justice. He, as a Republican judge in Fulton County, is a sitting duck. He is up for reelection, but if I were him, I’d be getting out of Dodge (actually dodging Fulton County). Money and position are not worth it for a young family, IMO.

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  5. The real, along with yesterday’s discussion: the stuff you put up every day is another reason some are disinclined to vote. What is the point when, at the push of a button, “they” can have another hundred thousand votes to cancel your one vote?

    Not asking you to stop posting, we need to know. But it shows again how insignificant we are at the hands of the corrupt.

    Fortunately, we know success in corruption is being allowed by the Highest Power, Who will bring justice.

    mumsee

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  6. We do have people who fight corruption. God lets things continue getting worse and worse as He puts His plans in action which can involve divine humor in the resolution. We wait and watch to see what He alone can do.

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  7. And politically, corruption exists, as it always has, on both sides of the aisle.

    Saw this also on ballot box decisions for believers, from John Piper:

    Voting is one form of doing good. It is one kind of good deed. We hope — by voting for worthy, competent, wise candidates — that the common good will come to more people. That’s our goal. But I don’t think it follows from any biblical truth that voting is an absolute duty for Christians. It is one possible good deed alongside many others, one way of serving the good of society, but there are too many other factors at stake to describe it as an absolute duty.

    One of those factors is this: when the duty to vote is elevated to the point where it overrides other Christian principles of virtue, it has been taken too far. That duty has been taken too far. At times, it happens in a fallen world that a vote for any proposed candidate is so offensive, so morally compromised, so misleading that it may be a matter of greater integrity, more faithful obedience to Christ, and a clearer witness to truth if we do not vote for any of the proposed candidates.

    It would be irresponsible to assume that a choice not to vote for some party or person on the ballot is a failure to love our neighbor, when in fact, the non-voter may be much more involved in doing socially transformative good deeds than the one who votes for a morally unfit candidate because he’s considered the lesser of two evils. Life is not simple. It is inevitable that Christians will disagree on strategies for how to do the most good with gospel words, good deeds, and Christian example-setting. We must be slow to judge the moral strategies of other well-meaning people.

    Just one more thought. If you believe, as I do, that in principle, voting is a great gift and privilege in our society, and you want to uphold that privilege, it is almost always possible to vote by writing in the candidate you think is worthy, though not on the ballot. In that way, you may uphold the precious gift of democratic self-government while avoiding the ruinous effects of supporting unworthy candidates.

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  8. Imagine if all believers were so tuned in to the Spirit that all wrote in a candidate, and it was the same one. And Joshua or Caleb was elected or even David.

    mumsee

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  9. Janice, I think you will find them serving in soup kitchens, volunteering at homeless shelters, teaching in schools, taking in foster children, going on mission work overseas, in the military, working at Salvation Army, leading Bible Clubs, taking youth fishing or hunting, etc.

    mumsee

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  10. Please excuse me if I am mistaken, but that reference to cleaning filthy rags certainly seems like a reference to self-righteousness. I can assure you that neither DJ nor myself feel self-righteous in this matter.

    Please note that we have been criticized for our decision to not support Trump, and told that any repercussions of him not being elected would be our fault, but we have not criticized anyone who does want to support and vote for Trump. I have dear friends who do so, as well as many of you here. I support their/your right to support and vote for whomever you decide is the better option.

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  11. Context is key, unless you’re lying intentionally, like the media.

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  12. Yep, pretty much.

    And the media gleefully run with what they know is a lie.

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  13. Another fed set up op, this one to target X with the new TikTok legislation. This is the endgame, to smash dissent.

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  14. Go figure.

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  15. Biden is making a broken Healthcare system even worse.

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  16. “You could have had 1.9% inflation, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, 2.9% mortgage interest rates, closed border, highest real wage growth we have seen in decades and world peace.

    But instead you chose an open border, highest grocery prices in 30 years, sky rocketing rent, 7% mortgage interest rates, 100 billion dollars to Ukraine, the destruction of our energy production and the brink of world war 3.

    You can keep pretending orange man bad but in reality it’s dementia man destroyed America.”

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  17. Your tax dollars at work.

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  19. Trump is not a careful speaker (but I understate that fact). He’s basically reckless with what he says and how he says it.

    Admittedly, there is some dissonance between some of the things he says and what he (in the past) did.

    But his poor and unedited speaking habits will always get him in trouble, although my sense is that he rather likes that and is even aiming for that. Stir everyone up. Even negative coverage (don’t kid yourself, Trump loves it) is seen as a positive. This candidate loves and feeds off it. Headlines and clicks, all good.

    But it’s a disservice to the voters and the nation.

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  20. My comment about filthy rags was in no way directed at anyone here on the blog. It was only directed toward what I understood the article to be saying. The article had an attitude about it, and it does seem to pit the voters against those who choose not to vote. Truly I don’t know who here will vote in this election and who will not. We make our plans but God changes them. I am not convinced it will be the two who have been nominated. I wait on the Lord to see who He allows to be on the ticket in November. And I will see if I am up for voting. I hope to be. I thought the article was comparing apples to oranges in the area of good deeds. I have never thought of voting as a good deed.

    In church the pastor made mention that the church does not endorse anyone and we are devoted to Jesus rather than to party. He did make it known that we have a county election in which if a county resident wants to vote for our next commissioner and since only democrats are running, we have to ask for a democrat ballot. That election is not too far ahead so I may be getting a democrat ballot for that.

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  21. Are you really making the argument that “well, yeah, he didn’t say it, but I think he could?”

    Your industry sucks Dj. They lie and gaslight about the man every single day, yet you seem fine with it, because that sounds like something you believe he might say?

    C’mon.

    And yes, he must love how the media continues to make themselves look like idiots with comprehension issues.

    The media is the disservice to the nation, hands down. And they prove it daily. They’re an enemy of the people and truth. This is just the latest example. Maybe try policing your own for a change.

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  22. Parroting propagandists….

    But Trump…..

    “Today every single mainstream media outlet went with the same headline. “Trump warns of bloodbath if he’s not re-elected!”

    Anyone who watched the clip knows he was talking about the auto industry, but these headlines are meant to mislead. That’s not the worst part.

    The worst part is the fact that all of these media companies who bring the news to the country were able to work in conjunction on a false narrative. Are they working for the DNC?”

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    Yes, yes they are.

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  23. The media is not disingenuous, or misleading, they are evil. They knowingly report lies because they want to confuse the public and tip the scales in favor of Democrats. And

    When they are caught in those lies, they never issue a retraction and they never stop repeating the same debunked lies because they are still talking about the hoax from 2017.

    Stop calling these people misleading or disingenuous, because this is not bias it is sabotage. All of these attacks on Trump are highly coordinated and every outlet uses the exact same language.”

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    Truth.

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  24. And Trump knows he’ll get massive coverage (the statement was purposely unclear, he repeated part of it and trailed off); it’s meant to stir the pot and it did, so he’s smiling. It’s a dysfunctional relationship at this point.

    AJ, I have to smile when you imply I’m responsible for the entire media (business) industry. 🙂

    Janice, I’m not sure what article you are referring to but presumably the Piper quotes? It was from an answer to a question about voting and whether that was a Christian duty or obligation. I thought he did a good job of threading that needle.

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  25. (And I’m assuming the comment directed at “my” industry (if only!) was from AJ, no initials so not clear. Sorry if it was someone else.

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  26. My hope, always, is that we can encourage more participation on this thread and that the discussion would be respectful. Disagreement is expected, but the challenge is how we do that among each other, among believers who do not have matching political beliefs. ?

    Or are politics our main identifier now? I hope not. We are not a “voting block” nor should we ever — ever — be viewed as that (though I realize the world, currently, sees us as that).

    So I like “signed” posts and not just assuming it’s only 1-2 people who ever are here.

    But I’d say if our discussion doesn’t remain respectful, it’s best to not participate. But I don’t what that to happen, I wish others would feel able to take part.

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  27. Janice, I’m thinking maybe the words to Piper’s answer struck you more specifically than they were intended — I have no idea when that was written or when he answered that particular question, but it was meant to be a generic answer to the question and not pinpointed for any particular candidate(s) or election.

    I thought he did a good job explaining what I apparently have not been able to do very well here currently or in the past — and I was grateful for his wise words on the topic. I felt the topic and my position was being misunderstood here.

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  28. The generic question it answered, as I recall, was simply whether or not voting in an election is a specific Christian “duty.”

    It comes down more to a conviction of conscience, is what he seems to be saying (and what I’ve tried unsuccessfully to say apparently). I’ve never suggested others here need to follow a conviction that I, personally, have had over the past few cycles.

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  29. The article equated doing a good deed with going to the voting poll. But I guess I misundrrstood the main point, of course. I tend to do things like that. It’s all on me and my faulty thinking.😀 I did not focus on the part you did, Dj. I think that part had previously been thoroughly covered here. The part about good deeds, I had never seen covered here. So maybe it was not my faulty thinking but actually my forward thinking in not wanting to rehash what we’d been over in the past based on my saying I felt called by God to vote. I got totally cremated when I said that before. I won’t say that again.

    Everyone should vote or not vote as they feel led by God in their understanding of His word.

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  30. Piper was viewing voting as doing good to one’s neighbor, which I think follows the reality of that action. We vote for candidates and issues we hope and believe will move the culture forward and thus provide a better life for all.

    I was just trying to see what was offensive in the post, which led me to wonder if it was the part of it that may have come off as a contemporary comment on our current state of the 2024 presidential contest.

    Of course we should feel called by God when we elect to vote, can’t imagine you’re getting beat up for saying something like that. The other side of the coin is simply feeling called by God to abstain.

    We’re doing the best we can to discern God’s will in particular circumstances in this world. It’s not always easy and we don’t always wind up on the same page (which is why again I’d love to see move viewpoints expressed here as I know they’re out there).

    🙂

    All’s well, God’s in his heaven.

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  31. God has a very intricate design He is working. He uses His people to do His work in millions of different ways. Doing His will for you when He says with a heart to worship Him is a “ good work”. That includes voting or not voting as He makes clear.

    mumsee

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  32. Thanks, the air is clearing.

    I think a lot about how we view voting has to do with our locales and what we see around us. Where I live, in the Atlanta metro area, there are a lot of blacks. I have so much enjoyed hearing Alveda King speak about abortion which has been so directed toward the black community. That is one area that conpells me to vote. God is about life and where I live, I see that as a very important thing. It’s my community, and by voting, I might save a baby”s life. Now we have the Laken Riley/illegal immigrant issue on our doorstep. I imagine some of the UGA students have changed parties recently. And we have a really large Jewish population in my vicinity. Which party is more likely to care about and protect them? I know some Jewish Democrats have recently felt compelled to change parties. Others of you here on the blog have concerns of your own pressing community issues to vote for or not. God will guide you with His word in your heart and His Spirit helping keep the eyes of your heart open to notice what is important to Him.

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