18 thoughts on “News/Politics 10-28-23

  1. Kevin, sorry I didn’t respond to your comment from Friday(?) (your response to one of my comments I think from the day before that?).

    But thanks for responding and agree with what you’ve also said.

    -dj

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  2. The real Aj

    Checked and rechecked?

    Not at all. The media was completely disinterested in any press that helped Trump prove his case.

    “An Election Integrity review conducted on 92 court challenges filed over the 2020 election found that a clear majority of the cases decided on the merits were ruled favorably for the plaintiffs; particularly, the Republican Party and the Trump campaign.

    The election review noted the cases decided on the merits and those that were dismissed for lack of standing or other procedural issues.

    “Some Non-Merit reasons for stopping lawsuits from going forward are for: a) Standing, b) Timing [Laches], c) Judicial authority [Jurisdiction], and d) Moot (e.g. not enough malfeasance to make a difference).”

    The list of court cases decided on the merits, meaning “the Plaintiff was able to argue the facts of the case, and, if applicable, given opportunity to present evidence via Discovery,” as well as the links to the case information, can be found below.

    “You’re gonna wanna bookmark this,” remarked Arizona Sun Times reporter @Rach_IC. “This is a compilation of all of the 2020 election challenges and what became of them. Despite the MSM lies that 60+ election challenges found no evidence of wrongdoing, there were actually 92 cases, with only 30 decided on the merits, and of those 30, Trump and/or the GOP plaintiff prevailed in 22 of them.”

    The case entries, many linking to Stanford’s Healthy Election Project, confirm the statuses and the rulings.

    It is debatable whether affirmative rulings in all of the cases would have been sufficient to lead to Donald Trump being elected instead of Joe Biden.

    The pivotal lawsuit may have been the Texas case brought by AG Ken Paxton contending that a number of swing states made unconstitutional election changes, because they did not go through the state legislatures. This case was denied by the Supreme Court, despite the Constitution stipulating its original jurisdiction.

    Furthermore, many states have since decided that 2020 election practices such as the inclusion of privately funded “Zuckerboxes” were either illegal or were subsequently outlawed.

    It is up for debate whether any particular lawsuit would have been the deciding factor, but the critical underlying point is that the election challenges were legal and valid. The sum of these lawsuits paint the picture that the “fortified” 2020 election was highly flawed and undemocratic, since it did not abide by fundamental practices of election integrity.

    Thus debunks a widespread narrative: Trump’s legal challenges to the 2020 election were all “baseless.””

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  3. The real Aj

    “All counted ballots” in Maricopa County are printed on 80lb VoteSecure ballot paper.

    Except over 200,000 weren’t.

    10 different types/weights of paper were found by the volunteers who examined the 2.1M ballots.

    But Joe Biden ‘won’ Arizona in 2020.”

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  4. The real Aj

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  5. The real Aj

    This is what corrupt judges with an agenda do.

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  6. Buh-bye.

    “Mike Pence has suspended his Presidential campaign

    Make no mistake – he has been banished forever from the America First movement for what he did on January 6th

    We all watched the 2020 election get stolen and Mike Pence said he would fight back

    But instead he backstabbed 74 million Americans who voted for him and President Trump

    Instead of upholding his oath to defend the Constitution and send electoral college votes tainted by fraud back down to state legislatures for further review, he fulfilled his role in the coup and helped the DC Uniparty install an illegitimate tyrant

    Good riddance Mike Pence

    Hope the blood money was worth it you backstabbing traitor”

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  7. @6:50 – My guess is that “DC Draino” is not a believer with that kind of post.

    If by some stretch he is, may he be convicted of many of those attitudes. That kind of mean-spirited, ugly response was simply uncalled for. -dj

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  8. The truth is often disliked and unpleasant.

    “If Mike Pence had sent the fraudulent electoral college ballots back to state legislatures for further review on J6, he would not only go down in history as a courageous American Patriot, but he would also be the heir apparent to the MAGA movement and would be #1 in GOP primary polling right now for 2024

    Instead he backstabbed 74 million Americans at the moment they needed him most

    That’s why he is ending his Presidential campaign in debt with rock bottom polling

    We are never going back to the George Bush & Mitt Romney NeoCon country club Republican party

    The America First movement is here to stay and we’ve built an entire media infrastructure to sustain it

    Let Mike Pence’s fall from grace be a warning

    Backstab the base at your own peril”

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  9. Mike Pence did what he thought was the right thing. Some agreed with his understanding of the matter and some did not.

    As for truth, I read a quote that said that truth without love/grace is brutality, and that sure describes much of what we see on social media these days.

    Our speech (or writing) is supposed to be seasoned with salt, not vinegar.

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  10. WSJ editorial:

    Mike Pence Makes a Gracious Exit

    The former Vice President leaves the presidential race as a politician who put his country first.

    ~ Mike Pence’s decision to end his presidential campaign on Saturday was a recognition of political reality and the need to consolidate the GOP field against Donald Trump. Others will have to follow his lead, preferably before the end of the year. …

    … By temperament and experience, Mr. Pence would make a good President. But his campaign of traditional conservative policies and civility never caught on. MAGA voters wouldn’t forgive him for standing up to Mr. Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election, while anti-Trump voters wouldn’t forgive his four years as Mr. Trump’s loyal number two.

    Mr. Pence deserved better because in personnel choices and policy advice he was crucial to the successes Mr. Trump had as President. He steered the former President toward his better cabinet choices and advisers, such as education secretary Betsy DeVos. If he was sometimes too wincingly loyal amid Mr. Trump’s impulsive policy riffs—Kim Jong Un is a helluva guy—that was the price of maintaining influence behind the scenes.

    Critics who say he should never have accepted the VP nod should thank heaven he was there on Jan. 6, 2021. Mr. Pence stood up to Mr. Trump’s public and private pressure to stop the electoral vote count. He followed his conscience to recognize the constitutional limits of his role, and he did the right thing in a political crucible, though he had to know he was damaging his future presidential prospects. He deserves the public’s gratitude.

    Mr. Pence also made a contribution this year in calling out the drift among some of his GOP competitors toward isolationism. He may have been the wrong messenger, but he offered a message that Republican voters should hear about Russia, Iran, China and an unprepared America. Hamas’s murderous invasion of Israel is a reminder of what can happen when a nation begins to believe it is safe from its enemies behind walls—or two oceans.

    Mr. Pence didn’t endorse another candidate, but perhaps he will as the primaries approach. Mr. Trump said Saturday that Mr. Pence should endorse him as an act of loyalty for having chosen him as his running mate, but Mr. Trump betrayed Mr. Pence with his post-election pressure to betray the VP’s oath of office.

    The GOP nominating race is frozen for now, with Mr. Trump maintaining a big lead and everyone else far behind. Many Republican voters have been sticking with Mr. Trump as a rebuke to the Democratic prosecutors who have indicted him four times.

    But many of those same voters also say they are open to someone else. A surprising candidate usually breaks out as the voting approaches in Iowa. If someone does surge, the pressure will be on the others to get out. As Mr. Pence has done during his admirable career, the laggards will have to put the country above their political ambition. ~

    -dj

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  11. The third graph @8:09 is something I’ve always thought was the case:

    ~ Mr. Pence deserved better because in personnel choices and policy advice he was crucial to the successes Mr. Trump had as President. He steered the former President toward his better cabinet choices and advisers, such as education secretary Betsy DeVos. If he was sometimes too wincingly loyal amid Mr. Trump’s impulsive policy riffs—Kim Jong Un is a helluva guy—that was the price of maintaining influence behind the scenes. ~

    -dj

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