47 thoughts on “News/Politics 6-7-23

  1. So here ya go…😊

    🪖 The first episode of Tucker’s new internet show, “Tucker on Twitter,” aired yesterday (10 minutes), and began with the Kakhovka dam story. Elon Musk promoted the new episode, garnering over 25 million tweet views in just the first 11 hours.

    Tucker’s new Twitter show is even snarkier and more sarcastic than Tucker’s old Fox show, if that’s possible.

    Tucker ended his show describing how during the Cold War, most Russians thought the United States was a third-world hellhole, because that’s all their captured media ever told them. Only a handful of Russians lucky enough to have shortwave radios ever heard a different story. Tucker said:

    Fifty years later, it is bewildering to consider the irony here. We’re the ones who live in ignorance now. The US Government has managed to classify more than a billion so-called “public documents.” So at this point, we can’t possibly know what our leaders are doing. We are not allowed to know. By definition, that is not a democracy. Yet it’s fine with the media. Secrecy is a powerful tool of control. “Stop asking how we got so rich! Here’s another story about racism! Go eat each other!”

    That’s the program. That’s how most of us now live in the United States. Manipulated by lies, silenced by taboos. It is unhealthy, and it is dehumanizing, and we are tired of it.

    As of today we have come to Twitter, which we hope will be the shortwave radio under the blanket.

    Preach, brother, preach.

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  2. I posted this last night, but I accidentally posted it on the thread for day before yesterday, so I’m reposting here with a couple of tweaks.

    Ladies, supporting a man who is attacking a couple of your sisters isn’t helping anyone. I know you don’t see it as an “attack,” but he is bearing false witness and refusing to hear when they tell him he is doing so (with evidence).

    The question has been asked whether DJ or Kizzie will “stand for anything” and it’s treated like a legitimate question. And why is the question raised? For one simple “failure to stand”–a choice not to vote for Donald Trump. Does that “crime” suffice to accuse them of being unwilling to stand for anything? Ladies, too many people have already left this blog, largely because of the uncharitable attitude of the host. Encouraging his “passion” when his passion is attacking fellow believers isn’t helping the civility of this place.

    I left long ago and usually choose not to engage. But since no one else has supported our sisters (one of them a widow, a category of people whose treatment is a measure of our Christianity), and some have chosen to support the one who attacked them, I decided to weigh in because someone had to.

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  3. Parents are angry, and it’s justified.

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  4. More…..

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  5. Dangerous people. 🙄🤣😂

    Wear it like a badge of honor ladies. 🙂

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  6. Clearly white supremacy is in play here.

    “Leftist Agitators Attack Armenian Parents Protesting “LGBTQ+” Activities in Glendale, CA Schools

    “Armenian and Hispanic families have been protesting the Glendale school board’s pride celebrations and the indoctrination of their children into radical gender ideology.”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/06/leftist-agitators-attack-armenian-parents-protesting-lgbtq-activities-in-glendale-ca-schools/

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  7. Here we go again.

    “It’s Trump 2024 versus Never Trump cartel

    Win for the crew is a win for the uniparty”

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/6/its-trump-2024-versus-never-trump-cartel/

    “The 2024 Republican presidential primary campaign is not a traditional contest among independent political entrepreneurs. It is a chess match pitting Donald Trump against a deep-pocketed Never Trump cartel with vast media reach.

    This Never Trump cartel is anchored by a dark-money Koch network, Big Pharma vaccine peddlers and Democratic Wall Street billionaires who hedge their political bets by funding Republicans. This globalist troika is united in their love for open borders to import cheap labor and the offshoring of American factories and jobs to leverage the sweatshops and pollution havens of Asia.

    The Never Trump cartel likewise includes corporate media conglomerates ranging from CNN and MSNBC to the RINO Right of Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News empire. Rounding out the roster is a coterie of Silicon Valley venture capitalists and social media oligarchs, including Mark Zuckerberg, who spent vast sums to defeat Mr. Trump in 2020, and the richest man in America who has offshored his largest Tesla factory to China, Twitter’s Elon Musk.

    This Never Trump cartel will provide much of the Republican primary fundraising, polling and strategy. To understand its various gambits, consider two “favorite sons” contesting early primaries.

    New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, the shadow “noncandidate” in the bellwether second primary on Jan. 30, and South Carolina’s Sen. Tim Scott, in the fourth primary on Feb. 24, will use their home team advantage to try to blunt the “inevitability” of a Trump victory early on.

    Mr. Scott has zero chance of winning the nomination but wants to maximize his chance of being picked for vice president by either Mr. Trump or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, leader of the Never Trump cartel pack. As long as Mr. Scott drains votes from Mr. Trump, particularly early on in his home state, he will be lavished with cartel support.

    South Carolina’s “favorite daughter,” former Gov. Nikki Haley, is likewise auditioning for veep but knows Mr. Trump would never pick her. She has simply bitten the Trump hand that fed her too many times.

    Ms. Haley’s slogan will be “Trumpism without Trump.” Her primary mission is to peel Republican women away from Mr. Trump. Ultimately, Ms. Haley hopes a strong showing in the primary may lead to veep redemption if Mr. Trump falters.

    The Dark Knight Sununu harbors no such veep fantasy. Throwing punches from the sidelines, Mr. Sununu’s singular purpose will be to take the New Hampshire primary punch bowl away from Mr. Trump. The cartel’s corporate media will provide him with a huge megaphone for his “anybody but Trump” rants, and he knows he need not formally be on the ballot to deprive Mr. Trump of a Granite State victory.

    ABC’s designated Trump hitter Chris Christie is on a similar kamikaze mission. This former New Jersey governor is one of a pack of former Trump loyalists who switched sides after the 2020 election, only to be rewarded with well-paid, Trump-bashing media gigs. Others include Mr. Trump’s former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney (CBS), press secretary Kayleigh McEneny (Fox), Fox Business host Larry Kudlow and press aide Alyssa Farah (ABC).

    That Mr. Christie is willing to give up his high-profile ABC gig to enter a race he can’t possibly win is the real tell in the cartel’s Never Trump con game. This Pillsbury Doughboy of venom is the least popular of Republican candidates, with a rare “net negative” approval-disapproval rating. If ABC takes Mr. Christie’s smoldering cinder of a political corpse back for the general election run after he does his wet work on Mr. Trump, that network is ethically bankrupt.

    There will be no shortage of other sacrificial pawns. Most prominent on the chessboard is former Vice President Mike Pence, a perennial Koch network supplicant.

    Mr. Pence is the “et tu, Brute” Shakespearean figure in the eyes of Mr. Trump’s MAGA base for his turncoat role on Jan. 6. His sole mission is to chip away at Mr. Trump’s Christian right base by attempting to outflank him on the abortion issue — never mind the damage this may do to any Republican candidate in the general election forced to navigate the rocky feminist shoals of the overturned Roe v. Wade.”

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  8. “Two Tiers of Justice”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/06/07/two_tiers_of_justice_149324.html

    “The elite set of individuals that sit atop our federal agencies have completely weaponized our entire government apparatus. It is no longer a one-off “mistake,” but rather the intentional creation of a two-tier system of justice that has gone unchecked. The resulting impact is a death knell for American faith in all three branches of government. ”

    —-

    “The two-tier system of justice is not Democrats vs. Republicans. It is anyone who is part of the administrative state and the D.C. beltway versus those who seek to destroy this political demon of the deep state. It is government gangsters against everyone else.

    When it comes to the U.S. government, there are no coincidences. Anything that masquerades as such is a strategic move to protect the upper echelons from ceding power to the proletariat they once rose from. Whether it’s Russiagate, Impeachment #1, Impeachment #2, Jan. 6 Committee, Hunter’s laptop, classified docs, or an intel letter from 51 of our highest “servants,” they layered this two-tier system of justice by doing the same thing at each level – breaking the law. Illegal surveillance, unlawful congressional overreach, and judicial hustling have joined forces, and the result is a destruction of justice.

    Case in point: Christopher Wray, a stunning example when it comes to the dual standard of justice and hypocrisy. Wray violated a congressional subpoena. By doing so, the director of the FBI has continuously broken the law and simultaneously destroyed the leadership reputation of the FBI. The days of justice and accountability within our federal government are fleeting, at best. What if you violated a congressional subpoena, what are the ramifications? No need to wonder, just ask Steven Bannon and Peter Navarro. Don’t count on this DOJ to police its own, especially when the narrative being put forth by the document in question nukes the radical left’s pyramid of Jenga justice.

    Yesterday, he had one final out, and showed his true lack of institutional control, or better yet its hijacking. He told Chairman Comer to pound sand, so now Congress must hold the line. Ransack these agencies and departments, and hold those who exploit the two-tier system of justice accountable – every single one of them. For starters, take their money, take their fancy government toys, and take Wray’s government-funded G5 jet. You must produce these critical documents and show them to the world, then do it again and again.

    Congress’ oversight authority is the last bulwark against the total erosion of justice. When you have leadership at DOJ, FBI, and the intelligence community all bending the knee to radical agendas to feed their own egos for the sole purpose of maintaining power, someone must answer the call. Some in Congress have shown exceptional leadership with their steadfast approach to exposing criminality and government corruption. They must stay the course and utilize Congress’ budgeting process to bring our agencies back into the fold. The only thing these corrupt leaders yield to is money, our taxpayer dollars. And so now, it must be taken, in part. No overcorrection, just enough to remind them they serve the American people, and to restore respect for each coordinate branch of government.”

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  9. Huh.

    Why it’s almost like the media, Biden admin, DoJ, and FBI all lied again.

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  10. Some like him, some don’t, but he’s right.

    “‘The World Has Changed, But The Gospel Has Not Changed’: Franklin Graham Fills Stadium In Seoul 50 Years After His Father To Spread The Gospel Of Jesus Christ”

    https://dcenquirer.com/franklin-graham-fills-stadium-in-seoul-spreads-the-gospel-of-jesus-christ/?utm_source=89385

    “On Saturday, evangelist Franklin Graham filled a stadium in Seoul, South Korea, 50 years after his father, Billy Graham, launched a crusade outreach mission there that significantly impacted the country.

    “A crowd of about 70,000 people overflowed the Seoul World Cup Stadium on Saturday as Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, gave a passionate sermon on the 50th anniversary of his father Billy Graham’s historic outreach in Seoul.” the Christian Post reports. “Graham’s address occurred on a significant day, mirroring an event that drew 1.1 million people to Yoido Plaza on June 3, 1973.”

    According to the Christian Post, Graham told the crowd, “Korea has changed so much in 50 years. The world has changed, but God’s love for you has not changed… God made you, He created you, and He loves you. He sent His Son Jesus Christ to save you from your sins. If you’re willing to accept that by faith, believe in His name, and turn from your sins, your soul will be safe and secure in His hands for eternity.””

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  11. CONTENT WARNING!!!!!

    Seriously….. Not for the squeamish.

    This criminal was a danger to anyone in the area. When you indiscriminately open fire on police while engaged in a running gun battle thru town, know that any means necessary will be used to end your reign of terror, including deadly force by vehicle.

    I hope the left and media don’t try to make him into the next St. Floyd.

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1666248514244947969

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  12. Cheryl, I am assuming I am one of the people you were addressing above.

    I very much value DJ and Kizzie’s contributions on here. They both come from a different starting point from me as believers, and yet we have a lot in common and a lot to learn of God from each other.

    Same with our brother, the real. He actually is very much like my husband in his passion for this country and the children. Both need to work on their presentation and I was commending the real on desiring to let the Lord soften his approach while holding onto his desire to protect the children and the nation from going down the tubes.

    “What do we stand for” is a question that has come up many times on here over the years. Are we door mats? Do we speak up? When? Why? Where is a bridge too far? I would guess it is different for each of us as God is working on us individually. We are not gods and are limited so we have areas God is dealing with and perhaps want us to speak up in but none of us cover it all.

    Yes, the real could hold his tongue a bit when calling out his fellow believers. And yet, he is trying to sound the alarm in the way God has provided him a venue.

    DJ has taught me a lot on controlling her tone and accepting other view’s and death penalty and self defense as well as her view of God though we don’t agree on certain politicians.

    Kizzie has taught me the passion of desiring to share the Truth with all she comes across, though she seems to get her feelings hurt a lot.

    I am certain I have said plenty on here to cause people to think I am a lunatic, I can live with that. This has been a great site for me in keeping in touch with believers and learning to proclaim my views without being too bratty, I hope.

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  13. Well my goodness Cheryl how to you know how we support our sisters? And our brother?
    Years ago my sisters were in a spat and I was accused of taking the side of one over the other. I told the accuser that I had no oar in that water and that I loved them both…they needed to work it out amongst themselves and I would be here to listen. I encouraged the accuser to go directly to the other and talk it out and not to listen to others that were attempting to butt in.

    From my view it was absolutely not an accusation of not voting for Trump (why they heck does it always boil down to Trump?!)
    It was a discussion over platform (you may have seen my comment concerning that issue and truly I was not attacking anyone yet standing firm)

    So if we don’t agree with another we somehow are bearing false witness???
    We are adults and discussion is good and right. Do some come across with more vinegar than others? Do some get their feelings hurt? Do some leave in righteous indignation? Sure they do and have.

    I have enjoyed and appreciated the input of many here including DJ and Kizzie. Do I get frustrated at times with certain positions which appear to be less passionate concerning issues that to me are important? Do I grow weary at the sermonizing of some? Yep. But I continue on jumping in and contributing the little that I have. And I have learned so much which I may have never heard otherwise.

    I read your comment as divisive in a situation in which you had no oar in the water so to speak. You may be doing the same to our brother as what you accuse him of doing.

    Dj and Kizzie I love you both and even though we don’t see eye to eye on certain matters I do hope there will be no bitterness. Aj spoke in a manner to which I am accustomed from my Dad, cousins, son, husband. I honestly did not see it as an attack yet passionate.

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  14. The woke Biden admin ruins everything they touch.

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  16. But, but…..

    Muh narrative…..

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  17. I didn’t listen to Tucker — his voice and style annoys me. However, I found his comments as stated in the first post of the day a bit bizarre. Most Russians did not think the US was a third world hell-hole.

    First, Soviet propaganda was bad. In one famous case, the government distributed a film of New York slums to show as a news reel. This backfire as the Russians saw the clothes hanging to dry outside the apartment buildings and thought the American working class was well off to have so many clothes. Most Soviets had a innate distruct of the govenment media

    Second, North Americans were taught there was an “iron curtain” when in fact it was rather porous. Many Poles and Ukrainians had relatives in North America who exchanged letters and often came to visit. A portion of Finland was annexed during the war splitting families across the border. There was frequent contact between Helsinki and St Petersburg. The CIA had an active guerrilla movement in the Baltic states and western Ukrainian well into the late 1950s. Even after the Wall was built, there was frequent contact between the two Germanys. They knew how much wealth the west had.

    Government secrecy is not the problem. The real problem is “passive” censorship in which corporations choose what story is worth telling. Watch what BBC world service covers and compare it to American cable news – the difference is stark in what is considered news worthy to tell.

    I’m amused Carlson calls out distractions. He’s rich, Musk is rich, Trump is supposedly rich. Do you think these individuals will give the working class information that discredits the rich?

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  18. Out the groomers and predators who mutilate children for profit.

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  19. In Weimar Germany, each political party had its own militia and they would fight pitched battles in the streets. The right wing National Party along with the fascists would fight the Communists. To motivate their base, the National Party would attack the decadence and depravity of 1930s Berlin. This would motivate their base to come to Berlin (they were mostly small town rural Germans) and attack theatres, live shows, etc. The Communists who cared very little for the decadence (intersectionality was not yet a thing) used this opportunity to chase the friekorps and SA out of Berlin.

    When I see violence in the US over “moral” issues especially when it relates to sexuality etc., my mind thinks of Weimar Germany. Groups that are created to fight sexaul depravity etc do not appear to be white supremacists (they’re not) but the rhetoric is very similar. Stand at the barricades for traditional values and against depravity. There’s nothing wrong with the viewpoint but when it motivates violent behaviour we are back to Weimar. Of course in American politics extreme right wing rhetoric is often thought to be automatically racist. That’s not necessarily the case.

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  20. The Washington Times article was over the top. The idea there is a vast conspiracy to stop Trump and corporate America is behind it is amusing. Corporate America was fine with Trump. Capitalism has always liked the populists right since it focuses mostly on social issues while they can exploit away.

    The US has a two tiered justice system or more accurately a multi-tiered but not the way described here. It’s the rich and then the rest of you.

    If you have a history of cocaine use, you will create an underlying condition that will kill you. However, the taser will ignite the heart attack.

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  21. Re Kizzie’s status as a widow ( and this relates to DJ as well) I have moderated a comment more than once based solely on the fact that Kizzie is a widow and has no man in the house.
    I think people who have fewer close male relatives often have more difficulty relating to certain male personalities. We can still get along, but it’s easier if we don’t conflate personality and theology….or politics for that matter. People who must have it their own way will be offended—and I say this not to indict anyone else but because I have been that person before myself. Patiently leaving some things in God’s hands while we move forward is a healthier and more mature way to go.

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  22. Well like the Germans, the Dems have their militia/attack dogs.

    And unsurprisingly, they started out in Germany. Like the original, who started out as tools of Stalin’s NKWD, the current version does the dirty work for Democrats and leftists.

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  23. AJ — you have to hate for profit private health care; anything for a buck.

    Doubtful the US military’s pride celebration turns away new recruits. Those in their late teens and early twenties are socially progressive even if they are fiscally conservative. The majority of young Americans are not eligible for military service – obesity, high school drop-out, criminal record. Pride celebrations in the military speak to the desperation the military has for new recruits. In addition, they are now waiving criminal records which are mostly marijuana possession. Pride celebrations aren’t the problem; its lack of eligible and willing recruits

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  24. See you can be rich and famous and still be persecuted; justice is blind in America

    Anitfa does have its roots in the Wiemar Communist Party. However, as their name suggests, the militia was set up to fight the SA or Brownshirts of the Nazi Party and prior to the Nazis; the German friekorps (mostly WWI verterans) who fought and killed communists in the Baltics, Poland, and Germany. They engaged in executions, assassinations, and mass killings especially in the Baltic countries. The freikorps declined by the mid 20s but the members soon joined the Brownshirts.

    Anitfa in North America is far more oriented towards anarchism i.e. a leftist version of libertarianism.

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  25. I was not going to be commenting again, but wanted to touch on some of what has been brought up. Although I’ve already typed it up as one comment, I will break it up into smaller chunks.

    Mumsee – It wasn’t merely a question of what we stand for, but an insinuation (pretty much an accusation) of our not standing for anything. And that really is uncharitable and insulting, as I said in my reply.

    And no, I don’t think you are a lunatic. 🙂

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  26. NJ – I think that Cheryl’s reference to no one coming to our support was about AJ’s diatribe against us. I was disappointed, to say the least, that anyone would actually “like” his comment, or call it “well said”. (Maybe for the last part, but that was not specified. But not the first part.) Interestingly, many of the times that I have gotten in trouble with AJ has been in defense of someone else.

    The reference to false witness may have been about how AJ characterized our views on Trump, as “Never-Trumpers”, and that we “bought” all the lies about him. However, as I pointed out, not only did I never go so far as to be a Never-Trumper, but I also have never “bought” all those lies and false stories about him. (And even exposed some of them on Facebook.) But it seems that since I expressed dislike of Trump (and I really don’t think I have even written much about that anyway), he has made some assumptions about what I think, even though I never expressed any of that.

    As for the matter of divisiveness, I believe that her motive was merely to “stick up” for two people who seem to be on the outs on this thread, with no one else “defending” us.

    As for “passion”, which has been mentioned at least a couple times over the past couple of days, that is one of those emotions that we are supposed to hold in check and rein in, like anger. Just as one can be angry without sinning, one can be passionate without name-calling.

    I love you both, Mumsee and NJ, and everyone else here.

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  27. Re: passion and anger (because the two are often connected). This portion of scripture came to mind:

    ” ‘Be angry, and do not sin’: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil. Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need. Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.”

    (Ephesians 4:26-32, NKJV)

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  28. Debra – Hubby could be pretty blunt, and could say some hurtful stuff. But he was growing out of that as he got older. In fact, one of the things he said to our pastor when he was in the hospital was that he was working on being a more considerate man. Pastor Billy commended him on that, and even mentioned it in his eulogy.

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  29. Kizzie, the real, like all of us, is a work in progress. In the recent months, I have seen a decided softening but he is not perfect,yet. God is working. We all have our unique weaknesses God is pruning.

    I did not see the discussion in quite the same light, perhaps I did not read as thoroughly. I thought it was the usual expressions of concern from all sides. I am sorry I did not realize it was more.

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  30. Kizzie I recall a time when our son was in college and was having a conversation with his Dad. He was believing some very liberal ideologies taught in a couple of classes. He stated something that sent my husband into orbit. I recall husband shouting into the phone “what are you a stinkin’ communist”?!!! He indeed was being passionate about the condition of his son’s heart.
    The other week I found a book on sorcery in a daughter’s room in my house. Was I concerned and passionate during my discussion with her when she responded she saw nothing wrong with it? You bet I was. Because I cared.
    If you saw no one stepping in it just might be that we wanted you to reason together.
    There was a time when you and another got into a tiff and Cheryl once again jumped into the conversation stirring up strife. Yes…you did Cheryl. Aj did not “boot” her from this blog. He has been gracious to her. But Cheryl you leave in a huff and then want to put your two cents in to stir it up….again. That is wrong in my estimation. I don’t understand what motivates you to do that.
    Aj speaks his mind but I have come to know him as a caring compassionate brother. I guarantee you he has covered you in prayer more than he has been confrontational with you. He is not perfect…nor am I. And to that Mumsee was commenting on his growth in approach. I know I could use a dose or two or growth in areas as well.
    I will leave with this to ponder……

    Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.

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  31. @Kizzie

    Philippians 4:5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

    Questions for thought. Not looking for answers:

    Does peeking in on this slice of the internet cause you to fixate on the blog owner’s and participants’ real and perceived sins and deficiencies?

    How many times have you issued a rebuke to AJ over the years?

    Has God given you a quota?

    Do you know if you’ve surpassed it?

    Do you know when it’s time to walk away?

    Is it an until-death calling from God to expose yourself to AJ’s opinions and interactions, no matter how many times his sins and shortcomings, real and perceived, hurt you, and to call him out when you think you should, no matter how many times you already have?

    “Believe it or not, AJ, I had decided to not bother commenting on any of that anymore. But…”

    I don’t know the answers to the questions I asked and don’t need to. God doesn’t reveal His will for your life to me.

    But I hope you know.

    I hope you know where God wants you focusing while He’s refining His messy people in His own perfect will and timing.

    Intense, sustained focus over any period of time that is directed by God is one thing.

    Fixation outside of God’s will, even on things that seem important, is neither moderation nor healthy — physically, emotionally, or spiritually.

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  32. NJ, I’m very sorry you are dealing with that with your daughter, and I prayed for you more than once last night.

    I’m posting on last night’s thread so as not to derail today’s, but hoping a few people will at least come and read this–BTW, I also emailed you, but then I came back and reread what you wrote to/about me, and saw it was harsher than I gave it credit for.

    Standing up for someone who has been bullied is not “stirring up strife.” (You may not agree with the “bullied” part, but I think those who bore the brunt of it do, and that’s why I chose to stick up for them.)

    It’s all well and good that AJ is trying to be kinder–I applaud that. He used to be kinder than he has been the last few years. But future attempts at kindness are irrelevant here. What is relevant in this situation is that he has spoken unkindly of sisters, and has been told that some of what he has said is demonstrably false. Being in print makes it potentially rise to the level of libel. And deciding to be nicer in the future doesn’t deal with the current issue of having publicly slammed sisters and then choosing not to apologize but to hint that they should be the ones to apologize. That is not merely a disagreement between people; that is sin.

    For the record, AJ asked whether two sisters in Christ ever “stand for anything” and said he hasn’t seen it. One of these is a Christian in a very hostile work environment; one is the only Christian in her home. Yet neither has compromised the truth in these settings.

    Has he been “gracious” to me, not really. “Grace” suggests being kinder to me than I deserve, and he hasn’t been. He has mostly tolerated me, but he was very unkind when I left the blog in yanking down my farewell post. (If he had wanted to edit it, that would be one thing, but removing it was unkind.) That isn’t important here, but just setting the record straight.

    Kizzie and DJ have both tried to present a bit of a moderating influence on here. I too think they’d probably be better off not hanging around here. That doesn’t really “fix” the current issue, however. It would be better, from a Christian standpoint, to have resolution on this one.

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  33. Mumsee, I wasn’t trying to get heavily involved here. But to answer your question, AJ clearly has little patience with people who disagree with him politically, and none at all with those who chose to follow their conscience and not vote for Donald Trump. He has been flagrantly rude (and consistently snarky) both to the conscience position and to those two ladies as holding it–and as the election season heats up, this is unlikely to be a civil place. The pro-Trump position is a dangerous “button” for AJ; I think it’s spiritually hazardous for him. My take is for people who disagree with him to stay away and let him fuss and fume without an audience, and certainly without punching bags.

    In the current situation, I think he owes these Christian sisters an apology. He also needs to decide what constitutes appropriate conduct on this blog–and make sure he himself holds to that standard. If I were setting the standards, for instance, I would include the guideline that you can take issue with a person’s position but cannot attack the person. In soccer terms, attack the ball and not the man.

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  34. Cheryl first of all I thank you for your praying for me concerning our daughter. This has been a confusing and difficult path as we continue to lean upon His guiding us through. I appreciate your thinking of us.

    I will be honest with you and I do not want to be harsh and for that I apologize. When you posted and I read it I saw an admonishment toward the ladies here on the blog (we do have men as well and none of them “spoke up”)
    I did not believe it to be my place as I have explained in my post. Had it been me who felt offended and I felt it necessary to clear things up I believe the correct action would be to message the offender directly. The action you took was to attempt to “correct” your perceived error of the ladies in the way of admonishment. I truly do not believe that to be your place to do so.
    You left this blog for your own reasons and you have jumped in when you feel someone needs to be corrected. I just don’t understand your need to do so.
    The actions you are taking against our brother seems to be the same of which he is being accused. Are you trying to shape him into what you believe he should be? Are you trying to shape us into what you believe we should be? Is that not what we rely upon our Lord to do?
    There have been a couple times I was taken aback by posters in their rude behavior towards me and I stepped away for a while. Brought my thoughts to the Lord and asked Him to lead me. I got over it. And I learned much through the process.
    I know we are all wired uniquely by His Hand. Some of us can take conflict and confrontation and some cannot. I absolutely have not seen this situation as bullying. As I said before, our brother has most definitely prayed over us with a compassionate heart much more than confronting issues where he holds strong feelings…and yes..passion is a good and right thing to have when attempting to stand on truth. (I still do not believe ya’ll are hearing what he and some of us are saying when it pertains to the platforms of the two major political parties..but honestly this is much more than that! )
    If one is experiencing difficulty with harsh feeling perhaps they need to step off for a while or press through and allow the Lord to lead them though the conflict as only He can. Or perhaps they should go to the person they feel have wronged them and try to reason together. But your admonishing your “sisters” to me is in itself offensive.

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  35. NJ, fair enough. However, some people weren’t choosing to “stay out of it” but to affirm AJ, without anyone affirming those whom he had attacked. You see me as adding fuel to the fire; though that wasn’t my intention, it’s fair enough that you read it that way.

    But to take it back a step, that’s what I saw support of AJ as being: adding fuel to the fire. I was often the victim of bullies at school; I dressed funny, was a Christian, was socially inept. I didn’t often get physically attacked, but usually with words, but at least once (and probably more than that) I had people deliberately target those who had made the mistake of being my friend and making sure they stepped away from me. But what I noticed about physical fights on the playground was that people who normally ignored the particular people who were fighting (as being socially fringe people) would suddenly be interested if there was a fight, and would stand on the sidelines cheering people on.

    What I was trying to say is don’t support the bully while his victims are still bleeding. In this instance I chose not to address my comments to AJ (though I did email him yesterday and say an apology is necessary), because he has historically not heard me and it seemed pointless. This is “bigger” than AJ and involves more people than him, and I do think there has been sin in this situation–and it’s public. (Some merely misread the situation and have since noted that, but some have been somewhat harsh in their rolled eyes and “get up and wipe the blood off and quit sniveling” approach.) I do think that several people have “enabled” AJ the last few years by accepting truly unacceptable behavior. That doesn’t mean AJ is never kind and never prays for us–that isn’t the question in this matter.

    If you have noticed through the years, I have tried to avoid commenting at all since I left, but I have commented to tell someone I am praying for a specifically horrible situation here and there, and I have also “liked” people’s posts (sometimes I’m unable to, but I do so often). I am in regular email contact with about five people from this blog and in irregular contact with about as many more; I have met at least five in person and talked to a few by phone, and have regularly prayed for enough people on this blog that my husband knows the name of quite a few people on here. I was part of World’s blog from 2003. I may be just a lurker now, but that doesn’t mean I’m a stranger happening on by. I’m a neighbor who has moved away but still cares about the neighborhood and its people.

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  36. PS I meant to edit that last line to add and for those in this community who are Christians, I am also a sister, a family member even if I’m not still present daily.

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