95 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 10-4-21

  1. Now for a good laugh, an eye roll, and a prayer for all who is involved in the raising of Little Miss. Mommy sent this text last night.

    I forgot to tell you guys that Friday M heard Papa tell me she was a good girl. We were driving down the road and she says, “Hey Mommy do you think I can get a toy? Papa said I deserved a toy for being so good”. I said, “Oh he did”? She said, “Yes”. I said, “Well I’m going to call him and ask”. She said, “No Mommy, I was just trying to be sneaky”.

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  2. Good morning. I know there are people in my world who pick up our garbage bin and dump it into the county truck on Monday mornings.

    I saw a latge truck parked on the street not far away that had what looked to be stacks of roofing materials.

    As I use to tell those who could not read in preschool class, read the pictures: there are people related to the truck of supplies, a driver and a work crew unless Covid hit them all at once, or they got raptured and left me behind.

    Busy day today with getting ready for the meeting tonight. It will be all by Zoom. I need to do more research on statistics. I get to be a Fact Checker of sorts!

    The beets I boiled last night were good. I ate them totally plain. Now I will look for ways to adorn them.

    We never ate Miracle Whip because of my brother’s diabetes. When I finally got to taste it, I could not stand the flavor. It’s so much about what flavors we grew up with, isn’t it?

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  3. Please pray for my meeting to go well, that I can be bold to speak when needed and have wisdom and discernment to know when to keep my mouth shut.

    Pray others (men especially) will speak on things that need to be discussed so I don’t have to be the lone bearer of not so welcome news.

    This should be on the prayer thread, but it’s here instead, for Chas.

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  4. I just listened to “I’ll Fly Away” again.
    Significant message there. Jesus said, “He that lives and believes in me shall never die.
    Do we belivee this” Jusus sid, in effet. “When you were born again, you received a new life that shall not pass away, even when thi flesh goes, the Person still lives with Me.

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  5. Thanks for the tip Janice…I just downloaded the book on my Kindle! 😊
    Husband just texted a photo from his hike…now I’m wishing I had gone with him…crisp blue sky, cool temps and the aspens are in their full golden glory!

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  6. Have you ever had something happen and wonder if it was really just a coincidence or was it a “God-incidence”?

    Until Chickadee told me over the weekend that the McKs and she are moving to another town, a little farther away from us than their present home, I had absolutely no reason to think that they would be in the mind to move any time soon. But I found myself praying that “something” would come up to make it so that they would have to move, and that they would end up moving into Stafford, even within walking distance of us, so that Chickadee could visit more easily.

    It was just an idea that came to me, and I prayed it, but also praying God’s will be done.

    Then I found out that they really do have to move. I realize that they already have a house they are moving to, but I also know that deals fall through sometimes, and they could have to find another place.

    Anyway, I am wondering if it was merely a coincidence in timing that I happened to pray that prayer, and they will still move to the farther-away town, or if God prompted me to pray that prayer because He is going to bring it to pass.

    There have been a few times throughout the years when I have either prayed about or thought about something that was not on my radar at all, but what I thought about or prayed about came to be shortly thereafter. Although one time it was many years later that a startling thought that passed through my mind, that I thought was impossible, came to be.

    But I also have a good imagination, and I don’t want to fool myself into thinking that God is doing something that He isn’t.

    Is this confusing enough? I can make it more confusing if you like. 😀

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  7. Thank you, Chas. I think some may glance over paperwork we are given and say “Fine. Whatever.” I am not sure why things are as they are, but someone needs to say something, at least ask questions. I am well practiced at looking dumb, and I don’t mean a fake dumb look, but the real thing. I have to be beyond being upset for looking like a fool when it means getting things right with God.

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  8. Kizzie, give God the credit. You can err on either side, but His hand is at work in all of your lives. I have just been in Bible study in Exodus 22 and it made me think how much God cares about the underdogs, the widows and orphans along with the poor. He cares immensely. He hears your prayers. He works all things out for good for you who love Him. His best plans and outcomes can take years.

    At times I recall a prayer a pastor prayed with me in a preschool classroom, when although Art had lost his job, that I would somehow be able to continue, even at poverty level for awhile, to homeschool Wesley. Now we know I did, and the blessings above what I could think or imagine have been received. Keep praying, Kizzie. Be persistent like the lady who kept pleading before the judge.

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  9. In our Bible study tomorrow, we’re studying justification, repentance, sanctification, and predestination (Who picked this curriculum? Not me).

    To add insult to injury, I decided to add a pop quiz. (I doubt anyone in my study has taken a pop quiz in 60 years).

    Here it is. (Hint: 5 are False)

    Pop Quiz
    (Circle T for true, F for false)

    14. Jesus died for your personal sins T F
    15. When God looks at you, He sees ALL your sins. T F
    16. Faith is whatever we want it to be T F
    17. Our faith comes from knowing we are good T F
    18. Hebrews 11 says faith is the assurance of things hoped for. T F
    19. Repentance means we are really sorry people know how bad we are T F
    20. We can’t repent if we don’t recognize we have sinned. T F
    21. The Holy Spirit convicts us of our need to repent. T F
    22. Repentance means to turn our back on our sin and live differently. T F
    23. We are righteous when we follow God’s will for our life. T F
    24. Being a “good person” demonstrates we are sanctified. T F
    25. We are sanctified every day we apply Bible truth to our life.
    T F
    26. We are saved because we are Lutherans. 😊


  10. I never like pop quizzes….as a matter of fact I got quite ill just taking a test I knew about!

    I was trying to let my neighbor know that we would take care of her dog while they are gone for 5 days and FB wouldn’t let me in…I was wondering what happened. And isn’t it interesting that some people only use FB messenger to “converse”…like my neighbor?! 😳 maybe I should send her a note in the mail letting her know we can take care of the dog 😂


  11. I am cleaning fourteen year old’s closet. The things I am finding. There is a reason I don’t clean other folks closets but she just could not seem to get a grip and approved my cleaning. She still squirrels away things that are not hers as well as totally useless things. Must be practicing to be an adult. So far, I have compiled five large bags of trash. By trash, I mean everything from broken baby toys to used feminine hygiene to torn up newspapers to rolls of feedbag string to rotted food products. She did mention her closet did not smell nice when she asked for help. She is off to Lewiston so I am on my own. Probably best. Pray for me.

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  12. I prayed for you Mumsee. But it looks like you aren’t the one who needs it.
    If I understand what yore saying, you aren’t the one who needs prayers..


  13. I was frantically trying to find a news conference that was airing live — supposedly on FB, according to an editor — and was stumped as to why I couldn’t get on. Now I know.

    They’ve swept all of us in the LA/OC coverage area into oil spill coverage today, it’s exhausting.

    I was venting about all of this to a former editor about it and he noted that the top-read story on our website today was this:

    “If you want a living, blooming fence around your garden, try this drought-tolerant plant”

    So there you go.

    I haven’t stopped laughing since.

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  14. I am also laughing.

    Chas, I do need prayer. I need to know how to live out Christ, the Light in a dark and messy world. Historically, I have allowed people to keep their rooms and closets in their own way, with certain stipulations like: nothing on the floor but the legs of the furniture. The rest all goes in the closet. If you have too much for your space, downsize.

    However, I have never had such packrats in their own private rooms before. Their brother is not like that at all but older sister was. One of the other girls was also and I understand it: coming from foster care and dysfunctional homes. But this is beyond that. So, yes, prayers for daughters as well.

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  15. Fifteen has also had a struggle with keeping rotting food in his room but seems to have overcome that in the past year. And I understand the fear of going hungry. But that fear is never encountered in real life here. Food is always available. They say the first three years strongly form our character. True. But God….

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  16. I am thinking 15,16,17,19, and 24 are False.
    In 15, when God looks at me, He sees the righteousness of Christ in place of my sins. He could see all my sin in His omnicience, but chooses to cover me with the blood of Jesus that takes away the sins of the world.


  17. Janice – I have released the whole situation into God’s hands, praying that His will will be done however He wants it to be done. 🙂

    Time will tell if the timing of that thought and prayer was merely a matter of coincidence or if it was God nudging me to pray that way. All I can do is surrender it all into His hands and wait and trust. Of course, I still let Him know what I would like, as a child might ask her father for ice cream, knowing that he may say no, but being bold enough to ask, and willing to accept whatever the answer is.


    “Trying to be optimistic” – No buses in our general area.

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  18. Re: the Facebook outage. I imagine that there are many people who were in the middle of some hot and heavy “discussions” who are now frustrated that they can’t post their clever, sure-to-win-the-argument comments. 😀

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  19. Not everything on Facebook, though, is about debating issues. There are all sorts of things people post about. I actually have several Facebook friends who do not post about controversial matters. Quite refreshing at times.

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  20. I also have at least a couple friends (including former WMBers “MakeItMan” and Kyle A.) who do post on controversial matters, but their comment threads are full of mostly respectful discussion. That is refreshing to see, too.

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  21. A “new” old book is being published Oct. 31


    There also will be a discussion event that will be broadcast on Youtube at 7 p.m. Oct. 18 (PT) but I believe also will be available as a video later.


    ~ Two professors at Westminster Theological Seminary, Stephen Coleman and Todd Rester, have spent most of the past year culling archives and translating plague writings in hopes that churches and leaders would glean some wisdom about worship and ministry during pandemics.

    The following is the Foreword excerpted from their curated new book, Faith in the Time of Plague: Selected Writings from the Reformation and Post-Reformation, published by Westminster Seminary Press in 2021.

    (EXCERPT) The father of modern medicine, Sir William Osler, wrote that “Humanity has but three great enemies: fever, famine, and war; of these by far the greatest, by far the most terrible, is fever.” I write this Foreword in the first week of January 2021, after 11 months of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.

    As a physician-scientist who founded and runs the Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group, I have studied RNA respiratory viruses for the last 35 years. For the last 11 months it has been nearly the entire focus of my time—usually 12–16 hours per day, six days a week—as we have worked in the laboratory to understand immune response to this virus and attempted to build a novel COVID-19 vaccine platform. I have completed over 1,200 national and international interviews on the pandemic and given more talks than I can now count.

    To be educated is to be prepared. Such a statement presupposes context and places value on the past. While the 2020 SARS-CoV-2 pandemic was a shock, it should not have been a surprise. Thus far, I have survived four pandemics: the 1957 Asian flu, the 1968 Hong Kong flu, the 2009 H1N1 flu, and (so far!) the 2020 SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. My previous roles as President of both the Armed Forces Epidemiological Board and the Defense Health Board, and as a member of the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC, and the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biologic Products Advisory Committee, as well as my participation in many national and international tabletop exercises on infectious disease threats and pandemics, meant that nothing about what has happened in 2020 was particularly novel (other than the pathogen involved), nor unexpected to me or others in the world of infectious disease epidemiology. And yet the majority of the world, and the church, was unprepared. It need not have been. …

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  22. and more from the forward;

    ~ This is perhaps even more important in our time when effective and evidence-based mitigation measures have been put at odds with political and syncretic religious ideologies. In the context of the church, appropriate distancing, wearing a mask and proper hygiene should not be political statements; rather they are expressions of Christian charity and love for neighbor. We can do no better than to peer intently through the lens of history to learn how the towering figures of the Reformers reasoned and behaved as they were guided by transcendent truth. Through them we see a movement from the moralism so prevalent in our day to a Christo centric, salvific remedy borne of a right reading of Scripture. …

    … It is for this reason, acutely pertinent to our “right now,” that this book matters—and matters greatly. I wish it could be required reading for every pastor, every theologian, every church member, every public health official and every physician. It turns out that theology, along with medicine and science, is legitimately interested in answers about the transcendent questions surrounding issues like plagues and pandemics! In fact, as others have pointed out, no scientist, no physician and no public health official is absent an underlying philosophical or religious motivation for their understanding and recommendations regarding plagues and pandemics. As the writings in this book illustrate, all streams of thought do not share moral or theological equivalence. For the modern mind it is likely to be shocking, as I admit it was often for me as I read this book, to see the profound depth of reasoning and the acuity of argument derived from Scripture and synthesized into patterns of thought and action. Doing so leads the reader from despair over current events into a profound doxology for our Creator and for his promise to his elect:

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. (Romans 8:28–30, ESV)
    The plagues of the 16th and 17th centuries and our own modern plagues and pandemics are all part of the unfolding eschatological drama that we see in Scripture. Plagues have purposes beyond our full comprehension. They neither surprise God, nor are they bereft of value to his elect. Todd Rester well understands the depth of this truth when he writes:

    Plague and disease deeply shaped the ministries of pastors and the congregational life of the early modern churches. A faithful pastor in this context needed a solid theology of God’s providence, the dignity of every human being, especially of the sick and the infirm, a deep love of neighbor, a strong commitment to the duties of pastoral vocation, and a robust Christian prudence to navigate the physical and spiritual needs of his family, congregation, and community.

    We would do well to understand that indeed there is nothing new under the sun, and to marvel afresh that Scripture and the writings of those who went before us (including those in this book) rightly understood— even without the scientific knowledge we take for granted today—how to respond in God-honoring ways to the plagues of their day, for the benefit of all. May we be equally as intentional and God-honoring, guided by Scriptural doctrines, as they were then, in responding to the crises that confront us today.

    Gregory A. Poland is a physician, scientist, author, provocateur, poet, theologian, motivational speaker, and health and fitness advocate. He is the Mary Lowell Leary professor of medicine at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, as well as the director of the Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group. He is also the editor-in-chief of the medical journal Vaccine.


  23. And I thought it was just me with a Facebook glitch. I was concerned about access to Zoom for my meeting. So many things are, underneath it all, tied to Facebook, and one never knows given those blanket permissions what may be affected, like the house of cards that Jack built.


  24. Because all of those other things are shut down, more people have time for this. I, on the other hand, am escaping daughter’s closet. Time to go back in. If you don’t hear from me….

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  25. There was a Facebook Whistle Blower interview on 60 Minutes last night. They may have shut it down themselves to destroy some evidence. What she had was pretty good.

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  26. No. Never. The closet is nearly done. What about the room? Well, most of what was in the closet was trash so now she has room to put things from her room!

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  27. I have never ventured over to Duke’s, always Hellman’s or Kraft or maybe store brand. But since I heard Hellman’s was bought by a Chinese group I have stopped buying it. May reconsider Duke’s. It seems I had it once and thoughtut it was greasier than my usual brand.


  28. Hey, I remember that “Bring out the Best!” jingle. Mumsee might like that commercial with all the scenes of mayo spreading.

    I went out to do the afternoon round of dog poop cleanup and spotted something inside the dog house out there … It was just Annie. She likes sleeping in there from time to time. None of my dogs (I’ve had it for 3 dog generations now) have ever set paw in it.

    My contribution to the oil spill package is in: “Don’t touch oiled wildlife”

    It won’t get the readership clicks that the blooming fence will, but hey.

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  29. Personally I will never forgive my parents for only having Miracle Whip in our house growing up. Mayo wasn’t an option. Hated MW, so I ate dry sandwiches, or with a little mustard, but only Gulden’s spicy brown, or you’re doing that wrong too…..

    Once I finally tasted Mayo, I began to wonder what else my childhood had been robbed of.

    I would soon discover to my horror the worst depravation of all. Seafood and fish. After that my relationship with my parents was never the same…..

    Some things you just can’t forgive.

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  30. I am with you on the Gulden’s mustard, AJ. We never had that at home, but once discovered, no going back. I do love mustard, and last time I ate Wendy’s burgers I got them with only mustard and onions like the old Krystal burgers had before they got slimy. Ham sandwiches and Guldens=divine.


  31. Maybe MW was an Iowa transplant thing — or maybe it was a little cheaper and that was the appeal. But mayo, while it’s OK (I’ve used the one using olive oil), just doesn’t do it for me. Not enough tang. 🙂

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  32. Gulden’s is good.

    And I love vinegar on fish and chips (and other kinds of fish as well). I love salmon and swordfish, but both are strong and I can’t eat it too often.

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  33. Yes, little brother, some folk are just all caught up in numbers and won’t let them just slide by but have to draw attention to themselves.

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  34. Rain is a marvelous thing, a gift.

    The willows are beginning to turn! They usually turn in August so this has been amazing. Should lose the tomatoes this week, as well. Not sorry to see them go though I have enjoyed them to the end. Winter is soon approaching and I love this time of year! What an incredible Creator we have to have designed such an interesting complex world.

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  35. I used to have Miracle Whip, but it has high fructose corn syrup, which causes health issues. It’s in just about anything anymore. Mayo, on the other hand, does not have that. I buy the Aldi store brand.

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  36. I got through another meeting. I prefaced what I had to say with, “There is an elephant in the room, and I will not win any popularity contests by saying what I need to say.” It all got brought out so those who need to know my concerns over the church budget have heard, my words are on record, and it has been discussed. Thank you for praying.

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  37. I like Miracle Whip, but it’s what I grew up with. We now use Hellman’s Real mayo.

    I also like vinegar on my fries. I once asked for vinegar for my fries when we were in a restaurant in Phoenix. The waiter looked at me like I had lost my mind. I think it’s a Canadian thing?

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  38. Kim, I will have to try that beet salad recipe. Except without the walnuts (allergy). I was going to google some new recipes for beets since we have so many and that’s the first one we’ll try. Thank you.

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  39. DJ – It is because of the tang that I don’t like Miracle Whip. I’m also not a fan of vinegar.


    AJ – What I missed out on growing up was Chinese food, but I did have fish. My dad did not like either Chinese food nor fish, so Mom and I had fish when he traveled for work. The “Chinese food” that we had at those times was the Chun King or la Choy chow mein stuff in the two attached cans.

    When Hubby and I started dating was the first time I had Chinese food in a restaurant. It remains a family favorite.

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  40. I love Chinese food if it is from the right Chinese restaurant…they are not all created equal! (And we never had “exotic” foods when I was growing up…meat/potatoes/veggies…those were our staples in life! Dad had liver and onions and sauerkraut…but not us girls!)
    The only fish we had growing up was fish sticks…I do not like any fish other than the fish and chips served in local restaurants. I once ordered fish at a Calabash restaurant in SC and the thing still had an eyeball…and it was staring at me…no no no no no!


  41. Love fish and chips with malt vinegar packs but it has been a long time. Also, love Chinese, but since our faves were garlic chicken, Mandarin beef, and moo shu pork, we haven’t done it during these these vegan years. I do make the bean lomein which is Chinese inspired with soy sauce flavor.


  42. Oh, I have been up since 4. I have played one game of Spider Solitaire, solved one Sudoku puzzle, exercises for an hour, and am now having breakfast. Oh, and I drank half a pot of coffee. I should be wired for the day.
    Off to search for Jo’s music for the day.

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  43. It was long ago. We are well pst the subject now. But this commet is still relevant.
    Elvera never allowed fod out of te kitchen/dining rm.
    That solves lots of problems.


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