Folks are just wrong about co-morbidities and the huge roll those comorbidities are playing in the death count.
People aren’t all dying from Covid, but they’re dying with Covid in addition too their comorbidities.
WOW. "The study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely.” https://t.co/Vtq6ckYdxY
“At least 12,000 Americans have already died from COVID-19 this month, as the country inches through its latest surge in cases. But another worrying statistic is often cited to depict the dangers of this moment: The number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in the United States right now is as high as it has been since the beginning of February. It’s even worse in certain places: Some states, including Arkansas and Oregon, recently saw their COVID hospitalizations rise to higher levels than at any prior stage of the pandemic. But how much do those latter figures really tell us?
From the start, COVID hospitalizations have served as a vital metric for tracking the risks posed by the disease. Last winter, this magazine described it as “the most reliable pandemic number,” while Vox quoted the cardiologist Eric Topol as saying that it’s “the best indicator of where we are.” On the one hand, death counts offer finality, but they’re a lagging signal and don’t account for people who suffered from significant illness but survived. Case counts, on the other hand, depend on which and how many people happen to get tested. Presumably, hospitalization numbers provide a more stable and reliable gauge of the pandemic’s true toll, in terms of severe disease. But a new, nationwide study of hospitalization records, released as a preprint today (and not yet formally peer reviewed), suggests that the meaning of this gauge can easily be misinterpreted—and that it has been shifting over time.
If you want to make sense of the number of COVID hospitalizations at any given time, you need to know how sick each patient actually is. Until now, that’s been almost impossible to suss out. The federal government requires hospitals to report every patient who tests positive for COVID, yet the overall tallies of COVID hospitalizations, made available on various state and federal dashboards and widely reported on by the media, do not differentiate based on severity of illness. Some patients need extensive medical intervention, such as getting intubated. Others require supplemental oxygen or administration of the steroid dexamethasone. But there are many COVID patients in the hospital with fairly mild symptoms, too, who have been admitted for further observation on account of their comorbidities, or because they reported feeling short of breath. Another portion of the patients in this tally are in the hospital for something unrelated to COVID, and discovered that they were infected only because they were tested upon admission. How many patients fall into each category has been a topic of much speculation. In August, researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System decided to find out.
Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.
The authors of the paper out this week took a different tack to answer a similar question, this time for adults. Instead of meticulously looking at why a few hundred patients were admitted to a pair of hospitals, they analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country. Then they checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent. (The latter criterion is based on the National Institutes of Health definition of “severe COVID.”) If either of these conditions was met, the authors classified that patient as having moderate to severe disease; otherwise, the case was considered mild or asymptomatic.
The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.”
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“But the study also demonstrates that hospitalization rates for COVID, as cited by journalists and policy makers, can be misleading, if not considered carefully. Clearly many patients right now are seriously ill. We also know that overcrowding of hospitals by COVID patients with even mild illness can have negative implications for patients in need of other care. At the same time, this study suggests that COVID hospitalization tallies can’t be taken as a simple measure of the prevalence of severe or even moderate disease, because they might inflate the true numbers by a factor of two. “As we look to shift from cases to hospitalizations as a metric to drive policy and assess level of risk to a community or state or country,” Doron told me, referring to decisions about school closures, business restrictions, mask requirements, and so on, “we should refine the definition of hospitalization. Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don’t belong in the metric.””
“KTLA reported that staffers at the El Camino Real Charter High School polling station told some San Fernando Valley voters they already voted.
The article buried an important detail: It happened to self-identified Republicans.”
Some Republican Voters in California Recall Say Computers Show They Already Voted When They Haven’t
Estelle Bender is a Republican. The people she spoke to who experienced this are also Republicans. This cannot be a coincidence.
Posted by Mary Chastain Monday, September 13, 2021 at 03:00pm 34 Comments
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KTLA reported that staffers at the El Camino Real Charter High School polling station told some San Fernando Valley voters they already voted.
The article buried an important detail: It happened to self-identified Republicans.
Estelle Bender, 88, told KTLA she went to the high school at 10:30. She gave a woman her ballot, who scanned it. The woman then told her, “You voted.” Bender replied, “No, I haven’t.”
Bender said the woman older it “has been happening all morning.”
“The man next to me was arguing the same thing,” stated Bender.
So Bender filled out a provisional ballot, but the situation made her “really angry.”
Bender left but told two women coming towards her to not be shocked if they’re told to fill out the provisional ballot.
The ladies told Bender the staffers already told them they voted and they had to fill out the provisional ballot.
Then Bender drops the bomb when she asked the women, “Are you by any chance Republicans?”
“And she said ‘yes.’ And I said, ‘So am I,’” explained Bender.
The lady announced the others with her identified as Republicans, too. Bender said another person she spoke to at another polling place had the same issue who just happened to be a Republican.
The reporter asked Bender if the fact that they are all Republicans made her suspicious. She was more gracious than me, giving him a little “um, duh” laugh, but responded yes.
“I’d still like to know how I voted,” Bender asserted.”
“In August, the White House announced it was moving forward with a Wuhan coronavirus booster shot program, which is expected to be rolled out on September 20.
“Planning to Offer COVID-19 Booster Shots Starting the Week of September 20: Today, public health and medical experts from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced a plan for administering booster shots later this fall, pending final Food and Drug Administration (FDA) evaluation and recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC’s) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP),” the White House website states. “Under this plan, a booster would be administered, eight months after an individual’s second dose, beginning the week of September 20—at which point those individuals who were fully vaccinated earliest in the vaccination rollout will be eligible, including many health care providers, nursing home residents, and other seniors.”
Two weeks ago, leading officials at the FDA resigned over the politicization of the booster shot process and a rush by Dr. Anthony Fauci and CDC Director Rochelle Walensky to implement the program before adequate data was available for an official recommendation.
“Marion Gruber, director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research & Review, and deputy director Phil Krause will exit the agency in October and November, respectively, according to a letter shared with CNBC by FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Caccomo,” CNBC reports. “Their announced plans to depart come as the Biden administration prepares to begin offering Covid vaccine booster shots to the general public the week of Sept. 20. Some health experts saw the move as premature and political, especially because the FDA hasn’t finished reviewing data on boosters yet.”
And now, we have more information about FDA officials pumping the brakes on moving forward prematurely. From AP:
The average person doesn’t need a COVID-19 booster yet, an international group of scientists — including two top U.S. regulators — wrote Monday in a scientific journal.
The experts reviewed studies of the vaccines’ performance and concluded the shots are working well despite the extra-contagious delta variant, especially against severe disease.
“Even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission” at this stage of the pandemic, they concluded.
The opinion piece, published in The Lancet, illustrates the intense scientific debate about who needs booster doses and when, a decision the U.S. and other countries are grappling with.
After revelations of political meddling in the Trump administration’s coronavirus response, President Joe Biden has promised to “follow the science.” But the review raises the question of whether his administration is moving faster than the experts.
The authors include two leading vaccine reviewers at the Food and Drug Administration, Drs. Phil Krause and Marion Gruber, who recently announced they will be stepping down this fall.”
In my view, the disproportionate racial impact criticism of the vaccine mandate is not the strongest argument against it- but it is the criticism most likely to cause problems for the democratic party which has built itself as the party of social justice and racial equality.
SHOCK VIDEO: Senior doctors and a marketing director at in North Carolina discussed inflating COVID-19 numbers by counting recovered patients as active COVID patients.
"We need to be… more scary to the public… If you don't get vaccinated, you know you're going to die." pic.twitter.com/66CcIsVR4B
The Biden admin has woken up to reality on inflation.
JUST IN – NY Federal Reserve now sees inflation at 5.2% in one year, 4% in three years; a series high with "large expected price rises" in food, rent, and medical costs.
So, inflation is under control as long as you don’t need to use gas, eat, have a roof over your head, or see a doctor. I’m already excited for the genius explanation to come from Psaki on this.
The idiots in the press continue to lie to spread fear.
There is 0 chance this is true. That should be obvious to anyone that knows how hospitals work, but somehow the story still got published. https://t.co/7WkGx7oaRb
Last par: A Cullman Regional Medical Center spokesperson, who declined to give specifics of Ray DeMonia's case, citing privacy concerns, confirmed to NPR that he was transferred .. but said the reason was that he required "a higher level of specialized care not available" there.
You are pushing too hard Eric. Last year 1% of actual covid deaths was enough to shut down the whole country, now that same 1% of vaxxx related deaths should just be ignored? And you wonder why we don't trust you https://t.co/RTxLlKGHP0
Isn’t it nice when some out of touch with reality liberal in a thousand dollar designer dress at a 30K a ticket event virtue signals us about taxing the rich?
tax the rich at a rich person gala which has tickets going for 30k. alright
The Mayor of NYC & chief jailer of Rikers Island attended the glamorous Met Gala tonight. A 22 minute car trip away, 6000+ people are being denied food & medicine, forced to stand in feces or defecate into bags, caged in cramped, infected quarters, & self harm is everywhere. pic.twitter.com/u3amTlBTof
Thank you and the entire delegation for pressing despite resistance to bear witness to the humanitarian crisis at #Rikers. It is a disgrace that must be addressed immediately. We need to hear from Mayor @BilldeBlasio. At this point, this also needs DOJ attention. @CivilRights . https://t.co/4D86VO946o
“I recently reviewed a recent study from Israel indicating that naturally acquired immunity from having COVID-19 was 10-13 times more protective against the Delta variant than having the vaccine.
Continuing with this exploration of the strength of natural immunity, Nature published results from a study that shows people who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can produce antibodies for decades.
“A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” says Ali Ellebedy, a B-cell immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, who led the study, published in Nature on 24 May.
…Ellebedy’s team tracked antibody production in 77 people who had recovered from mostly mild cases of COVID-19. As expected, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies plummeted in the four months after infection. But this decline slowed, and up to 11 months after infection, the researchers could still detect antibodies that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
To identify the source of the antibodies, Ellebedy’s team collected memory B cells and bone marrow from a subset of participants. Seven months after developing symptoms, most of these participants still had memory B cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. In 15 of the 18 bone-marrow samples, the scientists found ultra-low but detectable populations of BMPCs [Bone Aarrow Plasma Cells] whose formation had been triggered by the individuals’ coronavirus infections 7–8 months before. Levels of these cells were stable in all five people who gave another bone-marrow sample several months later.
Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci was finally asked to comment on the Israeli study and the possibility that natural immunity potentially conferred better protection against COVID-19 than the vaccine.
His answer was a master class in political speak.”
The question to Fauci, asked by CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta on Anderson Cooper 360, was “So, as we talk about vaccine mandates, I get calls all the time, people say, I’ve already had COVID, I’m protected. And now the study says maybe even more protected than the vaccine alone. Should they also get the vaccine? How do you make the case to them?””
“I don’t have a really firm answer for you on that” – Dr Fauci, our country’s top COVID expert hearing about something called natural immunity for the first time
“Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime
People who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades, although viral variants could dampen some of the protection they offer.”
“Many people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 will probably make antibodies against the virus for most of their lives. So suggest researchers who have identified long-lived antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of people who have recovered from COVID-191.
The study provides evidence that immunity triggered by SARS-CoV-2 infection will be extraordinarily long-lasting. Adding to the good news, “the implications are that vaccines will have the same durable effect”, says Menno van Zelm, an immunologist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.
Antibodies — proteins that can recognize and help to inactivate viral particles — are a key immune defence. After a new infection, short-lived cells called plasmablasts are an early source of antibodies.
But these cells recede soon after a virus is cleared from the body, and other, longer-lasting cells make antibodies: memory B cells patrol the blood for reinfection, while bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) hide away in bones, trickling out antibodies for decades.
“A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” says Ali Ellebedy, a B-cell immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, who led the study, published in Nature on 24 May.
Researchers presumed that SARS-CoV-2 infection would trigger the development of BMPCs — nearly all viral infections do — but there have been signs that severe COVID-19 might disrupt the cells’ formation2. Some early COVID-19 immunity studies also stoked worries, when they found that antibody levels plunged not long after recovery3.
Ellebedy’s team tracked antibody production in 77 people who had recovered from mostly mild cases of COVID-19. As expected, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies plummeted in the four months after infection. But this decline slowed, and up to 11 months after infection, the researchers could still detect antibodies that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
To identify the source of the antibodies, Ellebedy’s team collected memory B cells and bone marrow from a subset of participants. Seven months after developing symptoms, most of these participants still had memory B cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. In 15 of the 18 bone-marrow samples, the scientists found ultra-low but detectable populations of BMPCs whose formation had been triggered by the individuals’ coronavirus infections 7–8 months before. Levels of these cells were stable in all five people who gave another bone-marrow sample several months later.”
"In a pair of secret phone calls, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, assured his Chinese counterpart, Gen. Li Zuocheng of the PLA, that the U.S. would not strike, according to a new book by Bob Woodward & Robert Costa."https://t.co/JCFL5PDeTFpic.twitter.com/IheGZecFEb
The Joint Chiefs of Staff aren't their own government. This kind of action is subversive and anti-democratic.
If Milley didn't like serving under Trump, he should have resigned not undermined the President by conspiring with foreign leaders https://t.co/zyMoCDu5kC
‘LITERALLY the enemy of the people’: CNN and WaPo race to paint Gen. Mark Milley as a hero for allegedly conspiring against Donald Trump https://t.co/axVx8NjmZM
Accusations of fraud were up on the Republican website yesterday. They claimed statistical analysis had shown fraud in the recall results — one problem the result are not yet in so no analysis can be done. This will be in the Republican playbook as they lose more and more — accusation of fraud and anomalies. Despite gerrymandering, voter list purges, and any method possible to discourage certain regions to vote, the Republicans are facing losing elections and they are left with one thing — crying fraud. And they will cry even before the results are in . Let’s face it; its California the recall will be voted down. The Democrats don’t have to cheat here.
As for the ladies being given provisional ballots being all Republicans, not surprising. They are at the same polling station — areas tend to vote the same. If you based Canada’s election results next week on my polling station, you would cry fraud as we overwhelming vote for the socialist NDP yet they always get third place.
From your first post, I get the impression the Covid data may have been inflated due to the profit motive. Apparently when money is involved in health care, statistics and data may b e manipulated. I have a solution to that problem……
The important thing missing in your other Covid article is the number of vaccinated contracting Covid. The tweets state that since vaccinated patient die at a rate of 1%, its not really effective. However, how many Covid vaccinated patients are there compared to unvaxxed patients — that’s the true test of its effectiveness. In Canada, about 30% are unvaccinated but they account for about 80% of covid admissions to a hospital. Lets correct an other mistake — the Covid death rate is 2% — its been 2% for over a year. So the vaxxed patients are already at half the mortality rate. Plus of course there are far fewer vaccinated contracting Covid. The vaccine works and substantially lowers your risk..
Hospitals only have a finite number of resources. In Ontario, the decision to lockdown is determined not by actual number of covid cases but by hospital capacity. If the number of covid patients is impacting on a hospital’s ability to serve other patients, the gov’t needs to take action. Its highly likely that in areas of high covid hospitalization, care for other patients has been impacted. The grieving family has a point — those who say vaccination is a personal choice and not impacting others are wrong. The unvaccinated contract Covid at a higher rate than the vaccinated and thus are responsible for putting a strain on the health care system.
And the death of vaccinated patients should take into account comorbidities — many of those first vaccinated were the old and medically fragile, perhaps their death isn’t covid — -as you have suggested about these stats several times.
Some people may want to start an argument on twitter with a grieving family but that only shows the decline of decency in public conversation. Similarly protests in Canada are happening in front of hospital where staff, visitors and patients are being harassed by anti-vaxxers. Protest at the parliament, city hall, on the street, chain yourself to trees, block traffic etc; but protesting at a hospital….
Disappointed with AOC here. It is first class trolling but it really does nothing. Attending an expensive ball with a designer dress….now if she wrote let them eat cake it might have been more appropriate.
Not surprised Milley was on the phone with his Chinese counter part. This was fairly common during the Cold War in which Chinese, Russian and American officials would inform their counterparts that despite news reports to the contrary, their gov’t was stable. Wolfe’s new book suggests that between Nov and Jan, no one was really in charge and other countries were getting nervous. Outside of the US, Trump was seen as both a clown show and erratic, telling other countries that the gov’t was actually stable and the adults were in charge was in the best interest of the US.
To be fair, Clinton didn’t create Afghan refugees — that’s on Bush and Obama mostly the former. But the criticism on the US drone policy was correct — and Trump also used drones. Most of the criticism levelled at the Democrats/Biden can also be levelled at the Republican/Trump. To use a popular socialist Canadian metaphor — Coke, Pepsi not much of a difference.
Wandering Views 
Like I’ve been saying…..
Folks are just wrong about co-morbidities and the huge roll those comorbidities are playing in the death count.
People aren’t all dying from Covid, but they’re dying with Covid in addition too their comorbidities.
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And it shows how the medical community is using this for profit.
“Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning
A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/
“At least 12,000 Americans have already died from COVID-19 this month, as the country inches through its latest surge in cases. But another worrying statistic is often cited to depict the dangers of this moment: The number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in the United States right now is as high as it has been since the beginning of February. It’s even worse in certain places: Some states, including Arkansas and Oregon, recently saw their COVID hospitalizations rise to higher levels than at any prior stage of the pandemic. But how much do those latter figures really tell us?
From the start, COVID hospitalizations have served as a vital metric for tracking the risks posed by the disease. Last winter, this magazine described it as “the most reliable pandemic number,” while Vox quoted the cardiologist Eric Topol as saying that it’s “the best indicator of where we are.” On the one hand, death counts offer finality, but they’re a lagging signal and don’t account for people who suffered from significant illness but survived. Case counts, on the other hand, depend on which and how many people happen to get tested. Presumably, hospitalization numbers provide a more stable and reliable gauge of the pandemic’s true toll, in terms of severe disease. But a new, nationwide study of hospitalization records, released as a preprint today (and not yet formally peer reviewed), suggests that the meaning of this gauge can easily be misinterpreted—and that it has been shifting over time.
If you want to make sense of the number of COVID hospitalizations at any given time, you need to know how sick each patient actually is. Until now, that’s been almost impossible to suss out. The federal government requires hospitals to report every patient who tests positive for COVID, yet the overall tallies of COVID hospitalizations, made available on various state and federal dashboards and widely reported on by the media, do not differentiate based on severity of illness. Some patients need extensive medical intervention, such as getting intubated. Others require supplemental oxygen or administration of the steroid dexamethasone. But there are many COVID patients in the hospital with fairly mild symptoms, too, who have been admitted for further observation on account of their comorbidities, or because they reported feeling short of breath. Another portion of the patients in this tally are in the hospital for something unrelated to COVID, and discovered that they were infected only because they were tested upon admission. How many patients fall into each category has been a topic of much speculation. In August, researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System decided to find out.
Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.
The authors of the paper out this week took a different tack to answer a similar question, this time for adults. Instead of meticulously looking at why a few hundred patients were admitted to a pair of hospitals, they analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country. Then they checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent. (The latter criterion is based on the National Institutes of Health definition of “severe COVID.”) If either of these conditions was met, the authors classified that patient as having moderate to severe disease; otherwise, the case was considered mild or asymptomatic.
The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.”
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“But the study also demonstrates that hospitalization rates for COVID, as cited by journalists and policy makers, can be misleading, if not considered carefully. Clearly many patients right now are seriously ill. We also know that overcrowding of hospitals by COVID patients with even mild illness can have negative implications for patients in need of other care. At the same time, this study suggests that COVID hospitalization tallies can’t be taken as a simple measure of the prevalence of severe or even moderate disease, because they might inflate the true numbers by a factor of two. “As we look to shift from cases to hospitalizations as a metric to drive policy and assess level of risk to a community or state or country,” Doron told me, referring to decisions about school closures, business restrictions, mask requirements, and so on, “we should refine the definition of hospitalization. Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don’t belong in the metric.””
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And what were those other reasons?
Their comorbidities.
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Well what did everyone think would happen?
They got away with it last time, and they will this time too.
“Some Republican Voters in California Recall Say Computers Show They Already Voted When They Haven’t
Estelle Bender is a Republican. The people she spoke to who experienced this are also Republicans. This cannot be a coincidence.”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/some-republican-voters-in-california-recall-say-computers-show-they-already-voted-when-they-havent/
“KTLA reported that staffers at the El Camino Real Charter High School polling station told some San Fernando Valley voters they already voted.
The article buried an important detail: It happened to self-identified Republicans.”
Some Republican Voters in California Recall Say Computers Show They Already Voted When They Haven’t
Estelle Bender is a Republican. The people she spoke to who experienced this are also Republicans. This cannot be a coincidence.
Posted by Mary Chastain Monday, September 13, 2021 at 03:00pm 34 Comments
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KTLA reported that staffers at the El Camino Real Charter High School polling station told some San Fernando Valley voters they already voted.
The article buried an important detail: It happened to self-identified Republicans.
Estelle Bender, 88, told KTLA she went to the high school at 10:30. She gave a woman her ballot, who scanned it. The woman then told her, “You voted.” Bender replied, “No, I haven’t.”
Bender said the woman older it “has been happening all morning.”
“The man next to me was arguing the same thing,” stated Bender.
So Bender filled out a provisional ballot, but the situation made her “really angry.”
Bender left but told two women coming towards her to not be shocked if they’re told to fill out the provisional ballot.
The ladies told Bender the staffers already told them they voted and they had to fill out the provisional ballot.
Then Bender drops the bomb when she asked the women, “Are you by any chance Republicans?”
“And she said ‘yes.’ And I said, ‘So am I,’” explained Bender.
The lady announced the others with her identified as Republicans, too. Bender said another person she spoke to at another polling place had the same issue who just happened to be a Republican.
The reporter asked Bender if the fact that they are all Republicans made her suspicious. She was more gracious than me, giving him a little “um, duh” laugh, but responded yes.
“I’d still like to know how I voted,” Bender asserted.”
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Follow the science, right Joe?
“FDA Officials Said Americans Don’t Need a Booster. Biden Went Ahead With One Anyway.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/09/13/fda-officials-said-americans-dont-need-a-booster-biden-went-ahead-with-one-anyway-n2595784
“In August, the White House announced it was moving forward with a Wuhan coronavirus booster shot program, which is expected to be rolled out on September 20.
“Planning to Offer COVID-19 Booster Shots Starting the Week of September 20: Today, public health and medical experts from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced a plan for administering booster shots later this fall, pending final Food and Drug Administration (FDA) evaluation and recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC’s) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP),” the White House website states. “Under this plan, a booster would be administered, eight months after an individual’s second dose, beginning the week of September 20—at which point those individuals who were fully vaccinated earliest in the vaccination rollout will be eligible, including many health care providers, nursing home residents, and other seniors.”
Two weeks ago, leading officials at the FDA resigned over the politicization of the booster shot process and a rush by Dr. Anthony Fauci and CDC Director Rochelle Walensky to implement the program before adequate data was available for an official recommendation.
“Marion Gruber, director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research & Review, and deputy director Phil Krause will exit the agency in October and November, respectively, according to a letter shared with CNBC by FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Caccomo,” CNBC reports. “Their announced plans to depart come as the Biden administration prepares to begin offering Covid vaccine booster shots to the general public the week of Sept. 20. Some health experts saw the move as premature and political, especially because the FDA hasn’t finished reviewing data on boosters yet.”
And now, we have more information about FDA officials pumping the brakes on moving forward prematurely. From AP:
The average person doesn’t need a COVID-19 booster yet, an international group of scientists — including two top U.S. regulators — wrote Monday in a scientific journal.
The experts reviewed studies of the vaccines’ performance and concluded the shots are working well despite the extra-contagious delta variant, especially against severe disease.
“Even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission” at this stage of the pandemic, they concluded.
The opinion piece, published in The Lancet, illustrates the intense scientific debate about who needs booster doses and when, a decision the U.S. and other countries are grappling with.
After revelations of political meddling in the Trump administration’s coronavirus response, President Joe Biden has promised to “follow the science.” But the review raises the question of whether his administration is moving faster than the experts.
The authors include two leading vaccine reviewers at the Food and Drug Administration, Drs. Phil Krause and Marion Gruber, who recently announced they will be stepping down this fall.”
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That’s racist Joe!
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Fear porn theater’s latest production….
Be afraid….
Be very afraid……
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Credibility?
Gone…..
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The Biden admin has woken up to reality on inflation.
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Enjoy the suck! 🙂
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The idiots in the press continue to lie to spread fear.
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Swalwell is a Chinese spy loving idiot, so he’s not very bright.
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Isn’t it nice when some out of touch with reality liberal in a thousand dollar designer dress at a 30K a ticket event virtue signals us about taxing the rich?
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It’s OK though, the designer was an immigrant….
From Toronto….
Stop laughing! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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DeIdiot is no better.
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Let them eat cake, right Bill?
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Like I keep saying…..
I no need no stinkin’ jab.
“Study In Nature Journal: ‘You’ll Probably Make Antibodies for a Lifetime’ Against COVID19”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/study-in-nature-journal-youll-probably-make-antibodies-for-a-lifetime-against-covid19/
“I recently reviewed a recent study from Israel indicating that naturally acquired immunity from having COVID-19 was 10-13 times more protective against the Delta variant than having the vaccine.
Continuing with this exploration of the strength of natural immunity, Nature published results from a study that shows people who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can produce antibodies for decades.
“A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” says Ali Ellebedy, a B-cell immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, who led the study, published in Nature on 24 May.
…Ellebedy’s team tracked antibody production in 77 people who had recovered from mostly mild cases of COVID-19. As expected, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies plummeted in the four months after infection. But this decline slowed, and up to 11 months after infection, the researchers could still detect antibodies that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
To identify the source of the antibodies, Ellebedy’s team collected memory B cells and bone marrow from a subset of participants. Seven months after developing symptoms, most of these participants still had memory B cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. In 15 of the 18 bone-marrow samples, the scientists found ultra-low but detectable populations of BMPCs [Bone Aarrow Plasma Cells] whose formation had been triggered by the individuals’ coronavirus infections 7–8 months before. Levels of these cells were stable in all five people who gave another bone-marrow sample several months later.
Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci was finally asked to comment on the Israeli study and the possibility that natural immunity potentially conferred better protection against COVID-19 than the vaccine.
His answer was a master class in political speak.”
The question to Fauci, asked by CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta on Anderson Cooper 360, was “So, as we talk about vaccine mandates, I get calls all the time, people say, I’ve already had COVID, I’m protected. And now the study says maybe even more protected than the vaccine alone. Should they also get the vaccine? How do you make the case to them?””
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He does know, but he doesn’t want to say it, because then it exposes the lies.
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Here’s the study from Nature.
“Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime
People who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades, although viral variants could dampen some of the protection they offer.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9
“Many people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 will probably make antibodies against the virus for most of their lives. So suggest researchers who have identified long-lived antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of people who have recovered from COVID-191.
The study provides evidence that immunity triggered by SARS-CoV-2 infection will be extraordinarily long-lasting. Adding to the good news, “the implications are that vaccines will have the same durable effect”, says Menno van Zelm, an immunologist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.
Antibodies — proteins that can recognize and help to inactivate viral particles — are a key immune defence. After a new infection, short-lived cells called plasmablasts are an early source of antibodies.
But these cells recede soon after a virus is cleared from the body, and other, longer-lasting cells make antibodies: memory B cells patrol the blood for reinfection, while bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) hide away in bones, trickling out antibodies for decades.
“A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” says Ali Ellebedy, a B-cell immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, who led the study, published in Nature on 24 May.
Researchers presumed that SARS-CoV-2 infection would trigger the development of BMPCs — nearly all viral infections do — but there have been signs that severe COVID-19 might disrupt the cells’ formation2. Some early COVID-19 immunity studies also stoked worries, when they found that antibody levels plunged not long after recovery3.
Ellebedy’s team tracked antibody production in 77 people who had recovered from mostly mild cases of COVID-19. As expected, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies plummeted in the four months after infection. But this decline slowed, and up to 11 months after infection, the researchers could still detect antibodies that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
To identify the source of the antibodies, Ellebedy’s team collected memory B cells and bone marrow from a subset of participants. Seven months after developing symptoms, most of these participants still had memory B cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. In 15 of the 18 bone-marrow samples, the scientists found ultra-low but detectable populations of BMPCs whose formation had been triggered by the individuals’ coronavirus infections 7–8 months before. Levels of these cells were stable in all five people who gave another bone-marrow sample several months later.”
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Traitorous bastard.
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You shouldn’t have to explain that, but half the country are morons.
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The Chinese own Biden, and the media’s a joke, so no one will do anything.
Again.
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It’s funny because it’s true.
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And remember, Joe Biden is not just a drone user, he’s the Drone Club President.
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Accusations of fraud were up on the Republican website yesterday. They claimed statistical analysis had shown fraud in the recall results — one problem the result are not yet in so no analysis can be done. This will be in the Republican playbook as they lose more and more — accusation of fraud and anomalies. Despite gerrymandering, voter list purges, and any method possible to discourage certain regions to vote, the Republicans are facing losing elections and they are left with one thing — crying fraud. And they will cry even before the results are in . Let’s face it; its California the recall will be voted down. The Democrats don’t have to cheat here.
As for the ladies being given provisional ballots being all Republicans, not surprising. They are at the same polling station — areas tend to vote the same. If you based Canada’s election results next week on my polling station, you would cry fraud as we overwhelming vote for the socialist NDP yet they always get third place.
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From your first post, I get the impression the Covid data may have been inflated due to the profit motive. Apparently when money is involved in health care, statistics and data may b e manipulated. I have a solution to that problem……
The important thing missing in your other Covid article is the number of vaccinated contracting Covid. The tweets state that since vaccinated patient die at a rate of 1%, its not really effective. However, how many Covid vaccinated patients are there compared to unvaxxed patients — that’s the true test of its effectiveness. In Canada, about 30% are unvaccinated but they account for about 80% of covid admissions to a hospital. Lets correct an other mistake — the Covid death rate is 2% — its been 2% for over a year. So the vaxxed patients are already at half the mortality rate. Plus of course there are far fewer vaccinated contracting Covid. The vaccine works and substantially lowers your risk..
Hospitals only have a finite number of resources. In Ontario, the decision to lockdown is determined not by actual number of covid cases but by hospital capacity. If the number of covid patients is impacting on a hospital’s ability to serve other patients, the gov’t needs to take action. Its highly likely that in areas of high covid hospitalization, care for other patients has been impacted. The grieving family has a point — those who say vaccination is a personal choice and not impacting others are wrong. The unvaccinated contract Covid at a higher rate than the vaccinated and thus are responsible for putting a strain on the health care system.
And the death of vaccinated patients should take into account comorbidities — many of those first vaccinated were the old and medically fragile, perhaps their death isn’t covid — -as you have suggested about these stats several times.
Some people may want to start an argument on twitter with a grieving family but that only shows the decline of decency in public conversation. Similarly protests in Canada are happening in front of hospital where staff, visitors and patients are being harassed by anti-vaxxers. Protest at the parliament, city hall, on the street, chain yourself to trees, block traffic etc; but protesting at a hospital….
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Disappointed with AOC here. It is first class trolling but it really does nothing. Attending an expensive ball with a designer dress….now if she wrote let them eat cake it might have been more appropriate.
Not surprised Milley was on the phone with his Chinese counter part. This was fairly common during the Cold War in which Chinese, Russian and American officials would inform their counterparts that despite news reports to the contrary, their gov’t was stable. Wolfe’s new book suggests that between Nov and Jan, no one was really in charge and other countries were getting nervous. Outside of the US, Trump was seen as both a clown show and erratic, telling other countries that the gov’t was actually stable and the adults were in charge was in the best interest of the US.
To be fair, Clinton didn’t create Afghan refugees — that’s on Bush and Obama mostly the former. But the criticism on the US drone policy was correct — and Trump also used drones. Most of the criticism levelled at the Democrats/Biden can also be levelled at the Republican/Trump. To use a popular socialist Canadian metaphor — Coke, Pepsi not much of a difference.
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