49 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 4-15-21

  1. Hey, it looks like I’m first on tax day. Planning to go out for a long spring walk, but it got down to 36 and there’s light frost on the car, so I may wait an hour to let the flowers warm up a bit!

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  2. I met Mel in 1963 when both of us started to work for Army Map Service. We became friends
    Mel, a single guy, was visiting us when Polly, Elvera’s sister. was visiting us from Atlanta. Polly was a nurse. Mel invited Polly to dinner. Then, it happened again.
    Polly went back to Atlanta, quit her job and came back and moved in with us.
    Mel and Polly dated, and soon got engaged.
    Here, I was living in a small house with a child and two women. This went on for over a year..
    Soon, Mel became kin. The family stayed close. Mel and I were friends, but not “buddies” because Mel liked to play bridge, & other things I didn’t care for. But Elvera and Polly went shopping and family gatherings together.
    They are the reason we moved to NC from Virginia. I’m glad we did, but the reason we moved here was so Elvera could be close to Polly.
    The families remained close all these years. Until we moved here from Hendersonville because I needed help with Elvera.
    And Mel got heart trouble.

    Polly called yesterday evening. Mel has died.
    Polly will be 84 tomorrow. We are the last two of our generation now.
    Polly has two daughters.

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  3. Oh Chas, I’m sorry for this new loss on top of your fresh grief. May God hold you close, and may your family continue to love you well–you’re precious to them, and to us.

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  4. Chas, thank you for sharing that interesting story about Mel and the family and friends connections. Most people are known only as family or friend. He was a combo. So thankful you had that kind of relationship. It was a true blessing. May the Lord continue to give you comfort, peace, and hope as you carry on while looking forward to an eternity without such sorrows as we know now. Part of your carrying on means to keep writing your stories of what God has done in your life. That edifies your fellow believers here. We need you, especially now, as things are in such turmoil. You are a reminder that things were once better, and we need positives to think on. Also you can comfort others who suffer similarily with the comfort God has given you. God has purpose for each He allows to continue living.

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  5. Chas – I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your brother-in-law-friend. Praying God’s comfort for you, and also for Polly, and the rest of his loved ones.

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  6. Is anyone here familiar with Tim Keller? I am familiar with his name, and have read a few (I think) articles he has written, but not enough to really know much about him.

    The reason I ask is because on Tim Challies’ Facebook page, there is a quote from Keller. I made the mistake of briefly glancing at the comments because one caught my eye. Anyway. . .some are accusing him of being a heretic, or at least “not orthodox”, and others are defending him. (I am not reading the rest of the comments, as there are quite a few, and I don’t know those people anyway.)

    Do any of you have an opinion on this?

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  7. My heart hurts for you, Chas. That is grief upon grief. It reminds me of Paul saying in his epistle about God sparing him one more grief. Praying for you.

    I see Chas was right about those lyrics. I do believe my husband always sang it with don’t, but I have found that he sometimes does have some little words wrong. He was of the generation that had to listen to records or cassette tapes to get lyrics unless they were given by a friend. We would rewind a cassette tape many times to understand some words. Sometimes even that would not reveal a clear word or phrase, so we could only guess. Now you can find all kinds of lyrics online.

    I am glad to hear you got some of the pension your husband worked for, Kizzie.

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  8. I think New Morning Mercies (one of my favorite devotionals) is by Tripp.

    I’m loosely familiar with Keller but I have not really followed him. I believe he was in the same denomination as Cheryl (before they moved), she may know more about him. I believe there were concerns expressed more recently, but again I haven’t kept up with any of that. Early on I enjoyed much of what I’d seen written by him but he faded off my radar for some reason (not intentionally)

    Chas, I’m so sorry. No words. Praying.

    Your memories of being under one roof for a while reminded me of when an aunt and uncle from Minn. came to stay with us until they could get settled in LA, but they stayed mostly in our garage as we had the tiniest house ever. They were a fun pair, had just a grown daughter and no other kids. I remember hanging out on the driveway with them and my parents, listening to Dodger games on the radio on warm summer nights.

    That uncle also staged, along with my dad, my Halloween-themed 10th birthday party held in the garage & backyard. It was pretty elaborate. But I think one of the kids — seeing a “ghost” in the backyard — said, “Oh, that’s just her Uncle Bill.”

    I’m off to an ‘early’ in-person assignment today (loving this vaccine), so I’m scrambling, I slept too late, long work day yesterday.

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  9. Keller recently received a terminal diagnosis of pancreatic cancer. I saw that comment too, Kizzie, and rolled my eyes. If you disagree that strongly, just unfollow, why make a fuss about it? Now, I don’t really care for Keller, but only because I found the one book of his, which the city church Sunday School I attended studied once, to be far less satisfying than the straight study of the Bible that we had been doing before. I do not like studies of author’s books about the Bible as a substitute for Bible study. There was nothing heretical in the book, it was just bland in my opinion – it was on prayer. I also was aware later of some disagreement regarding Keller’s view of ministry – he emphasized city ministry to the possible detriment of rural areas, as I recall the critiques. But nothing that could be said to be heresy. Heresy is a very strong word, and one I would only use in conjunction with doctrines which deny doctrines central to the faith such as the Trinity, the deity of Christ, or the Incarnation, Death, and Resurrection of Christ. Error and schism would be used for other matters on which I strongly disagree – I might think someone is gravely and even dangerously in error, but wouldn’t call them heretics on secondary matters alone. And on tertiary matters, I can agree to disagree. If Keller was as close to heresy as all that, I would have read something from the Presbyterian sources I keep tabs on and I haven’t.

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  10. Thanks, DJ, for the clarification on the author.

    I did not think Cheryl had changed from the PCA denomination. Is it broken down into smaller groups like some other denominations?

    The ladies in my group so far seem to enjoy the Keller devotional which also has his wife credited with authorship.

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  11. If I google the words Tim Keller heretic, I find critiques claiming heresy, but they all claim completely different things as evidence for their claims, which is a sure sign that the claims are very ill founded. One of the accusations, for example, claims Keller supports Catholicism simply because he said the American Catholic author Flannery O’Connor was a good influence. On those flimsy grounds anyone who found G.K.Chesterton or J.R.R. Tolkien helpful could be called a heretic, which is downright silly.

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  13. Re Keller, yes, I was part of the same denomination before we moved. The PCA has had some issues, not all of their churches are faithful, and my husband preferred to seek out a different denomination at that time.

    Some Reformed folks (including us) have a problem with some areas where Keller isn’t really Reformed, like having dance as part of worship and supporting a church-planting network that plants churches of all sorts, many with doctrines we’d disagree with. And we don’t like the celebrity-pastor bit.

    My own biggest issue with him is that he supports theistic evolution. And no, I don’t mean day/age–I disagree with that position, but consider it within the realm of orthodoxy.

    I’ve read Keller and heard him speak, and I don’t consider him a heretic but I wouldn’t seek him out.

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  14. We had to pick up husband today after he dropped off his truck for a repair appt. On our way home, we drove by Tolo Lake. Looks like a fun spot to take the canoe.

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  15. Morning all. Friends are finding it difficult to find routes back to the states as things are shutting down within PNG. Flights are quite limited.


  16. Have you heard of Yes Day? It is an idea for parents to let their children have a day when they receive a “Yes” for what they ask to do. (“Yes Day” is also the title of a movie about a family doing this.) Of course, the parents are supposed to have a framework for this, with some guidelines, so it’s not endorsing a chaotic free-for-all.

    Nightingale was reading on Facebook about a woman describing the Yes Day she set up with her children. But this woman set up a whole bunch of restrictive rules around it so that it merely ended up being a day when the children could do a couple fun things that they would ordinarily do anyway (like swimming in their own pool and going to the library). The lady’s post about her restrictions for the day was pretty long, and had us shaking our heads.

    Nightingale and Boy have seen the movie on Netflix and are planning to have a Yes Day sometime after Nightingale’s current college semester in finished. She has set up some guidelines, and they have been planning it together.


  17. Here in Connecticut, we have rain all day, and are supposed to get a few inches of snow tomorrow. A couple days ago it was in the lower 70s.


  18. Here in Ukarumpa we never have rain or anything else all day. It is currently sunny with patches of fog here and there, but I expect some rain later.


  19. Well, I delayed the start of my walk, and then I layered with more layers than I’d really like to do on a long walk (by the time I returned home, a hoodie and a flannel shirt were tied somewhere and I wanted to remove the light jacket but didn’t really want to “carry” it too). I did five miles or a bit more, and except for the coolish early start, it ended up being quite lovely, with a fair amount in bloom. I found the first larkspur I’ve seen this year, plus the first poppies (a bright yellow variety), and the paw paw tree is in bloom along with the redbud and dogwood, so we had enough color to delight the eyes even without the cardinals, blue jays and bluebirds and tree swallows, and a goldfinch or two. (The others didn’t see the goldfinches, but I saw all the primary colors.)


  20. I’m covering a years-in-the-making sanitation infrastructure project that we started writing about back in 2011 (another reporter started covering it then I took over sometime around 2018, I think, when she left for another job). But we did an interview together back in the mid-2000s teens (how do you say that?) when we were still in our old office and a couple of the engineers came in.

    Anyway, it involves a 7-mile underground (by 2 miles) tunneling project that will end at the ocean in our community — all using a specially built (in Germany) electric boring machine that is more than 2 stories high and can expand as long as 2-1/2 football fields; it will be manned by a crew and only progress by about 50 feet a day, so its journey won’t end for more than two years.

    It replaces the “blast-and-run” underground tunneling process that had to be used by earlier generations.

    The entire project, which also involves hooking up to existing ocean outfalls, won’t be finished until 2027.

    Some other reporter will have to cover that part of the story. 🙂


  21. This is to carry treated, or clean, wastewater, btw, which hooks up to pipelines under the ocean where it the water is then released. But the system now in place consists of 2 smallish, underground pipes built in the 1930s and 1950s, which also are clearly not earthquake-ready and likely not in very good shape as the population has grown by serious numbers in the years since.


  22. Chas – The limits are supposed to be basic, like nothing too expensive or not to have to travel too far, and obviously nothing dangerous or destructive. It’s supposed to be a fun day to loosen up and have fun with the children.

    “Yes Day Background

    If the idea of a Yes Day sounds familiar (looking at you, Jennifer Garner fans) the idea originated from a book of the same name by Amy Rosenthal-Krause and Tom Lichtenheld. Basically a little boy in the story gets a day where his parent’s can’t say no to anything. Sounds like a kid’s dream, right? But guess what? Saying yes to your kids teaches you something, too. Parents who indulge in a Yes Day actually report a feeling of closeness and connectedness with their kids. And guess what that results in? Kids actually listening better. One mom told us that after her first Yes Day with her son she discovered just how many times she automatically said no, to herself and her kid, when she didn’t really need to.”



  23. I did get a smallish stuffed horse to lean on when on the floor – and we got a very cute, scruffy-shaggy little terrier mix when I was a teenager. 🙂 And there was always a cat in the yard or house. All good.

    Interesting, though, we lived rather close to horse stables (which I seemingly didn’t know as a kid). A friend of mine later told me when she was a teen she volunteered to clean stables in exchange for riding lessons. Why didn’t I think of that?

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  24. You know, I’m inclined to think that if I wanted to institute a “Yes Day,” I’d do it without telling my children so that they wouldn’t be coming out with all the things to which I’d already said no. 🙂 Just decide that if at all possible, I will say yes that day.


  25. Cheryl – I think that is the main idea behind it. Somewhere (maybe in the piece I shared, but maybe somewhere else) I read that it is supposed to be a surprise.

    The lady I mentioned earlier told her kids to not ask for anything that they knew she’d say no to, and from the rest of what she wrote, it sounded like she’s not the kind to say yes to much at all. She definitely didn’t get the point. 😀


  26. I just talked to my only living uncle for an hour. His wife died ten years ago today after four years with Alzheimer’s. He turned 91 earlier this year, and I really had no idea a decade ago that he’d outlive her for more than a year or two. He’s already had heart attacks and strokes and several other ailments, but he told me he’s healthier than he has been in years. So precious to have that connection, though!

    Two of my brothers tell me periodically that they wish they had gotten to know him at some point, and I tell them “Call him!” but they don’t. I even set it up to have one of those brothers call him a decade ago when I was coming out of surgery, call him and tell him I was OK, and figuring that would break the ice and he’d call him again some other time. And he told me he’d really enjoyed the conversation, but did he ever follow up and call him again, no. And another brother, who’s very interested in family history, will say, “Ask Uncle Jim this” and I’ll say, “Call him and talk to him–he’ll tell you lots of stuff!” but he doesn’t.

    If you have a family member you’ve always wanted to know, but just haven’t followed through, please do it. These brothers could have done so 15 or 18 years ago, and all these years uncle and nephew would have a mutual blessing, but they can’t take themself past that first, difficult step. It makes me sad, because now he’s an old man with a very limited life (walking with a walker, under Covid restrictions) and it would be a mutual blessing for him to talk with the brother who loves family history or the brother who is also a preacher, but I can’t make them “Just do it.” And someday it will be too late.

    I myself had to really press to establish a relationship. It took several contacts before it really sank in with my uncle that I’m family, because our uncles had just never been included in family life and he wasn’t used to thinking about his nephews and nieces as relatives. But I’m so glad I did. Now we both love talking periodically. And once I had done the work, my brothers had a path to follow along too–he was open to that–but they didn’t, and now they probably never will.

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  27. Daughters had a pony show up knocking on their glass door a couple of days ago. They put it in with the horse, brushed it and cleaned it up, fed it, called animal control, no answer. They were going to call the brand inspector to find out where it belongs, haven’t heard how that turned out.


  28. I, on the other hand, had a mule come by and knock over a rabbit house trying to get the rabbit pellets daughter stored in there. No rabbit was in it as it is broken from the last time the mule came visiting. The guy who rents the neighbor’s pasture must have brought his mules over again. They jump fences so unless we keep our driveway gate closed, he comes in and dines on things. He has a couple of buddies who join him at times.


  29. Jo, what a thrill, that was my dream growing up. My parents said something about “zoning” making that impossible, which I didn’t entirely understand at the time. Santa can do anything, right?

    Good post about your uncle, Cheryl. All my aunts and uncles are gone now but I am trying to connect more with that cousin who’s in Missouri. Interesting as he (being older than I am) has some more detailed memories about our grandfather from Iowa.

    I put a request up on the prayer thread about my neighbor. Prayers appreciated, thanks.

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