19 thoughts on “News/Politics 7-20-20

  1. Fake news becomes a way of life.


    “The media has decided there’s more emotional satisfaction in failure than in performing the function with which the public entrusts it.

    In December 2016, Ben Smith, then BuzzFeed’s editor-in-chief, wrote a memo to his staff that was meant to be a kind of charter for the dawning of the Trump Era. In truth it spoke to and aimed to speak for the entire mainstream media. Smith would eventually move on to the New York Times, which elevated him to a role as the supervisory voice of conscience for the whole media. But that December, he warned his staff of the danger of fake news, and the need of the media to be accurate and factual:

    The information environment itself will become even more central to our coverage:

    Fake news will become more sophisticated, and fake, ambiguous, and spun-up stories will spread widely. Hoaxes will have higher production value. It is, for instance, getting easier and easier to create video of someone saying something he or she never said — a tool both for fake news and false denials.

    And powerful filter bubbles will drive competing narratives from parallel universes of facts.

    The Times and The Atlantic have minted tens of thousands of new subscribers from across the nation since Trump’s election, readers who want to keep informed, even as their local newspapers shrivel into nothing. The importance of these institutions has lately been increased substantially by their ability to survive, grow, and set trends across a more tightly concentrated media environment. Their staffers have largely defined themselves as part of a resistance to Trump’s administration.

    So how is the “information environment” now, three and a half years after Smith’s memo?

    Pretty bad.

    Last week, the Times ran a story about a 30-year-old Texas man who believed COVID-19 was a hoax and contracted the disease at a “COVID party” before dying. Every detail of the story was uncorroborated, which made it exactly the kind of urban legend that moral panics produce. Though it was viral on social media, because it confirmed all the prejudices of the Times’s energized liberal readership, the Times began to edit the story as it was criticized here in National Review and in Wired. The entire tone of the story went from credulous to skeptical, but you wouldn’t have noticed the difference if you hadn’t been paying close attention, because no editor’s notes were appended to it announcing the changes. The Times has begun “stealth editing” its stories in this manner more and more lately, effacing the traditional journalistic ethic that seeks to keep an intact record not just of the news, but of how the reporting of the news evolves.

    Also last week, The Atlantic ran an essay, “How I Became a Police Abolitionist,” that roots the activism of its author in a heart-rending story of a 16-year-old gunned down by the police in a rec center for failing to put his name on a sign-in sheet. Christopher Bedford, at The Federalist, a conservative web outlet that has far fewer resources than The Atlantic, rather conclusively showed that the story as told was full of holes and likely never happened.

    In recent months, the Times has failed to report properly even on its own internal controversies. Take the publication of an op-ed by Senator Tom Cotton, which called for the use of the U.S. military to quell rioting while taking pains to separate rioters from peaceful protesters. The piece caused a freakout among Times staffers that ultimately cost editorial-page editor James Bennet his job. The news desk at the Times, in its own navel-gazing story on the controversy, falsely described Cotton’s op-ed as a call “for the federal government to send the military to suppress protests against police violence in American cities.””


  2. Yet another example from the Times….

    Standing on a lie in the face of truth.


    “New York Times Stands By Report Of Trump-Russia Connections Despite FBI Memo Debunking It”

    “The New York Times is standing by a February 2017 report alleging that Trump associates were in communication with Russian intelligence officers, even after the release of an internal FBI memo that identified numerous inaccuracies in the story.

    “We stand by our reporting,” New York Times spokeswoman Eileen Murphy told her own paper for its report on the newly released documents.

    Attorney General William Barr declassified two documents this week related to the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign. One released Friday is a 57-page memo of interviews that dossier author Christopher Steele’s primary source conducted with the FBI in January 2017.

    The second is former FBI official Peter Strzok’s annotation of a Feb. 14, 2017, report that said four American officials claimed that authorities had intercepted communications and call logs of Trump advisers speaking with Russian intelligence.

    “This statement is inaccurate and misleading as written,” Strzok wrote in reference to opening paragraph of the Times story. “We have not seen evidence of any individuals affiliated with the Trump team in contact with [Intelligence Officers].”

    Strzok, who was the FBI’s lead investigator on Crossfire Hurricane, the name for the Trump-Russia probe, poured cold water on other aspects of the Times report, including that investigators were sifting through a vast trove of call records and that Trump confidant Roger Stone was under investigation at the time.

    The Times story advanced the prevailing narrative at the time that the Trump campaign may have conspired with the Kremlin to influence the 2016 election. The story also hit a day after Michael Flynn resigned as national security adviser because of a scandal involving phone calls he had with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December 2016.

    Strzok was aware of those calls because the FBI obtained a transcript of them through surveillance of Kislyak.

    Investigators ultimately found no evidence of collusion between Trump associates and the Russian government. Special counsel Robert Mueller’s report did not make any reference to communications in 2016 between any Trump associates and Russian intelligence operatives.

    Murphy, the Times spokeswoman, did not go into detail about why the paper is sticking by the story in light of the new memo.”


  3. The only number that matters.

    “Wuhan Coronavirus Death Rate Drops for Twelfth Straight Week”


    “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported the 12th straight week of a declining coronavirus death rate in the U.S.

    “Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 8.1% during week 27 to 6.4% during week 28, representing the twelfth week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC,” the CDC website states.

    The CDC says the numbers “will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks,” but a 12-week decline is a well-established trend that just so happens to coincide with states reopening their economies.

    For the week ending Apr. 18, there were 16,395 deaths involving COVID-19 as reported by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). That number has dropped for 12 straight weeks, down to 1,099 deaths reported by NCHS for the week ending Jul. 11. The number of deaths attributed to COVID-19, pneumonia, and influenza has similarly fallen, from 21,060 for the week ending Apr. 18 to 2,174 for the week ending Jul. 11.

    To get some perspective, while just over 1,000 coronavirus deaths were reported for the week ending Jul. 11, there were 24,723 deaths from all causes in the U.S. For the week ending Jul. 4, the NCHS reported 2,462 coronavirus deaths out of 42,219 deaths from all causes.”

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  4. “Radicals from the 1960s and 1970s now hold powerful positions in government and academia”


    “This is what the revolution looks like.

    Weather Underground terrorists, who made no secret of being anti-AmeriKKKan “small-c” communists, are having more success than they could have dreamed of in the 1960s.

    They are dominating the language. You know that whole “white privilege” nostrum that we’re paying universities $60K per year to drum into our children’s brains? It is derived from their lamentation of “white skin privilege.” In their ideology, the revolution to overthrow the capitalist, racist, imperialist system summoned them — lily white radicals — to abandon their privilege and embrace the armed struggle.

    Among their most influential thinkers was Bill Ayers. He got a windfall from the government’s failure to prosecute him for the bombings he carried out and the mass murders he planned but was insufficiently competent to execute. It was a second career as a “Distinguished Professor of Education” at the University of Illinois. As Sol Stern relates in a 2006 City Journal essay that should be required reading today, this entailed designing curricula used by today’s hard-Left academics, based on what Ayers saw as a moral imperative to convert schools into social-justice indoctrination labs.

    It worked.

    Of course, in the days before they brought the revolution into the classroom, they pursued it on urban streets, prioritizing war on cops. To the avant-garde, the police are the pointy end of the oppressive government spear, enforcing its laws and imposing the racist society’s caste system. For the revolution to succeed, the police have to be discredited, defunded, and defanged. For the Weather Underground, that meant branching into such radical offshoots as the May 19 Communist Organization and conspiring with black separatists.

    So it was that such Weather confederates as Susan Rosenberg, Kathy Boudin, and David Gilbert, among others, teamed with the Black Liberation Army to carry out the infamous 1981 robbery of a Brinks armored truck at the Nanuet Mall near Nyack, N.Y. At the time, Rosenberg was already a suspect in the 1979 New Jersey jailbreak of Joanne Chesimard, also known as Assata Shakur, a Black Liberation Army leader who had been convicted of murdering New Jersey state trooper Werner Foerster. Chesimard fled the country and was given asylum by Fidel Castro’s Communist regime in Cuba, where she has lived ever since.

    In robbing the Brinks truck, the terrorists shot at the security guards, murdering one of them, Peter Paige. In a firefight with Nyack police while trying to escape, they killed Sergeant Edward O’Grady and Officer Waverly Brown — the latter a Korean War veteran who had joined the force in 1966, the first African American to serve in Nyack’s police department. Rosenberg went on the lam, finally captured three years later in possession of over 700 pounds of explosives she and her fellow radicals were planning to use in additional mayhem. A federal judge in New Jersey sentenced her to 58 years’ imprisonment.

    Boudin and Gilbert had left their 14-month-old son, Chesa, with a sitter in order to participate in the Brinks heist. But unlike Rosenberg, they were captured right after the bloody shootouts. Boudin was sentenced to a minimum 20 years’ imprisonment (with a maximum life sentence), and Gilbert to 75 years’ imprisonment.

    With his parents in custody, young Chesa Boudin was raised by their confederates, Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Like Ayers, Dohrn was a Weather Underground leader who became an academic after eluding significant prosecution for their bombings and mass-murder conspiracies — though she did do a short stint of jail time for contempt after defying a grand-jury subpoena to testify about Rosenberg.

    In addition to his American academic work, Ayers became a supporter of the late Communist dictator Hugo Chávez’s education programs in Venezuela. There, in a 2006 speech with the strongman looking on, Ayers proclaimed, “Teaching invites transformations, it urges revolutions small and large. La educación es revolución!” Later, Chesa Boudin would follow in Ayers’s footsteps, working as a translator and think-tank researcher for Chávez’s regime.

    Meanwhile, in Chicago, Ayers and Dohrn seamlessly became prominent in Democratic Party politics. At their Hyde Park home in 1995, they held a coming-out party for an ambitious political unknown, a community organizer named Barack Obama. Two years later, the future president breathlessly endorsed Ayers’s polemic, A Kind and Just Parent?, as a “searing and timely account.” The book is an indictment of the U.S. criminal-justice system, which Ayers likens to South Africa under apartheid. As Stanley Kurtz has recounted, Ayers helped pave Obama’s way into the radical Left’s extensive fundraising networks; the two collaborated as board members of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, doling out more than $100 million to community organizers and education “reformers.”

    Susan Rosenberg’s terrorism sentence was commuted by President Bill Clinton in 2001, part of the scandalous array of clemency grants on his last day in office. (I was then a senior federal prosecutor and had just spent months successfully arguing against her release.) Instantly, she was offered teaching positions at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and, later, Hamilton College, though protests by parents and alumni forced the first to be short-lived and the second declined.

    Not to worry, though. By 2020, she was recruited to become vice-chair of the Board of Directors at Thousand Currents, after years as an “activist” in the thriving fields of criminal-justice “reform” and prisoners’ rights. (In the media-Democrat complex and on the campus, former terrorists who’ve found new ways to march the revolution through our institutions are transmogrified into “social-justice activists”). Like the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Thousand Currents is a grant-making foundation of the radical Left, similarly tapped into its fundraising networks — such groups as the W. K. Kellogg Foundation (a deep-pocketed non-profit that promotes racial causes and also supports the Tides Foundation and George Soros’s Open Society Foundations, among other heavyweight donor organizations) and the NoVo Foundation (funded and controlled by the Buffett family).

    Currently, Thousand Currents’ signal project is Black Lives Matter.”

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  5. Biden is lying, and Wallace is wrong. Again.

    Redirecting = defunding, because the money for policing goes elsewhere. This isn’t rocket science folks.


    Wallace’s own network says so.


    “Biden says some funding should ‘absolutely’ be redirected from police

    Biden also said police forces don’t need surplus military equipment because it makes them look like ‘the enemy’ in communities”

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  6. No more Plan B, Plan A…..


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  7. The fake news from The Atlantic mentioned above…..


    “‘I’m… At A Loss For Words’: The Unraveling Narrative Behind The Atlantic’s Defund-The-Police ‘Shooting’ Tale

    A powerful story published by The Atlantic has a serious problem: proof it ever happened.”

    “When social justice activist and lawyer Derecka Purnell was just 12 years old, she and her sister watched a police officer shoot a young boy in a city recreation center because he had ignored the basketball sign-in sheet. This jarring, emotional, and deeply unsettling story was published July 6 at The Atlantic, in the section reserved for ideas, under the bold, attention-grabbing headline, “How I Became a Police Abolitionist.”

    Purnell’s deeply personal story of shattered innocence and shattered bones at the end of a policeman’s gun was shared widely among top journalists and activists. “I started her article thinking abolition was impossible and ending thinking it must happen,” the president of a social justice think tank at Harvard wrote on Twitter, quoting his mother. “This is a beautifully written piece,” the Atlantic’s constitutional law editor agreed. “Derecka is the future,” an activist journalism executive declared.

    There’s a major problem with Purnell’s story, however. Based on a Federalist investigation of newspaper archives and the police department records, and questions to The Atlantic, the police union, and the office of the mayor, it does not appear to have ever happened.

    An Investigation

    “The first shooting I witnessed was by a cop,” Purnell, a widely published Harvard Law and Berkeley graduate who is now a columnist for The Guardian, writes. “I was 12. He was angry that his cousin skipped a sign-in sheet at my neighborhood recreation center. I was teaching my sister how to shoot free throws when the officer stormed in alongside the court, drew his weapon, and shot the boy in the arm. My sister and I hid in the locker room for hours afterward.”

    “The officer,” she continues, “was back at work the following week.”

    Purnell has led a prolific career, including writing for The New York Times and time at the helm of The Harvard Journal of African American Public Policy. Because of her impressive rise from poverty, she’s been the subject of profiles and has been asked to write more than one personal essay on why she is an activist. Despite this, and despite this memory’s seeming impact on her life, her article in The Atlantic is the first mention it ever earns in her publicly available writings. In fact, it appears to be the first mention of the incident in any publicly available record The Federalist was able to uncover.

    Purnell paints her story of police dependence in the polluted and impoverished St. Louis neighborhood she lived in. “We called 911 for almost everything except snitching,” the essay opens. “Nosebleeds, gunshot wounds, asthma attacks, allergic reactions. Police accompanied the paramedics.”

    “Our neighborhood made us sick. A Praxair industrial gas-storage facility was at one end of my block. A junkyard with exposed military airplane and helicopter parts was at the other. The fish-seasoning plant in our backyard did not smell as bad as the yeast from the Budweiser factory nearby. Car honks and fumes from Interstate 70 crept through my childhood bedroom window, where, if I stood on my toes, I could see the St. Louis arch.”

    An Aircraft Boneyard

    In The Atlantic, Purnell says she was 12 years old. While her current age is not public information, when she sat for a Kansas City Star profile in 2014 her age was reported as 24. Based on this, we can safely assume the alleged police shooting occurred between 2001 and 2003. A broad search for “police” and “recreation center” in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s archives for those years yields 37 results. Those results include voter guides, community events, feel-good stories, budget updates and all the standard business of local news coverage, but no stories remotely resembling a police officer shooting a boy.”




    “There has been a rash of arson and vandalism directed against European churches, most notably in France. The London Times reports:

    Recent incidents have included a fire in Saint-Sulpice church in Paris, human excrement smeared on the wall in Notre-Dame-des-Enfants church in Nîmes, southern France, and vandalism of the organ at Saint-Denis basilica outside Paris, where all but three of France’s kings are buried.
    Figures released by French police showed that 875 of France’s 42,258 churches were vandalised last year. Thefts were reported in a further 129. The interior ministry said that 59 cemeteries were also vandalised.

    And the Times doesn’t mention the arson that threatened to destroy Nantes Cathedral.

    Happily–I guess–France still hasn’t approached the record set in 2017, of 1,045 acts of vandalism against churches.

    The same thing is going on in the United States:”



    “Catholic churches across U.S. suffer week of vandalism and arson”

    “Aweek of vandalism and arson have left churches in the United States damaged but Church leaders and parishioners prayerful.
    Statues of Jesus and Mary were beheaded or spray-painted, doors were covered with graffiti, and churches were burned, one quite clearly an act of arson.

    Incidents of vandalism around the country included:

    Queens, New York. Shortly after 3 a.m. on Friday, July 10, a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary that has stood in front of Cathedral Prepartory School in Queens, New York, for over 100 years was spray painted with the word IDOL on front. Police are continuing to search for an individual shown on the school’s security camera. Over the next few days, workers from the Diocese of Brooklyn’s Catholic Cemeteries cleaned the statue, which the school rededicated on Thursday, the feast of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.

    Ocala, Florida. In Ocala, Florida, Saturday morning, July 11, parishioners were gathered for morning Mass when a minivan crashed into the front of Queen of Peace church. A 23-year-old man allegedly got out of the car and spread gasoline around the lobby, then lit it on fire. No one was hurt, but the fire did extensive damage. Police later caught the suspect, who was charged with attempted second-degree murder and arson. According to local media, the suspect told investigators that he was recently diagnosed with a mental illness but was not taking his prescribed medication. He also reportedly told them he had problems with the Catholic Church.

    Los Angeles. Across the country the same day, another fire broke out at Mission San Gabriel Arcángel in Los Angeles, which was founded by St. Junipero Serra in 1771. (In the wake of nationwide protests regarding racial injustice, which led to the dismantling of statues of Confederate heroes, statues of Serra also became targets of destruction because of his alleged mistreatment of Native Americans.)

    The timber roof and sections of the interior of the mission church were destroyed. No one was injured.

    “Federal and local officials are still investigating the cause of the fire at the San Gabriel mission, with no determination yet made,” Catholic News Agency reported July 12. “On Sunday, the Los Angeles Times reported that agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were investigating the possibility that the fire was an arson attack.”

    Chattanooga, Tennessee.”


    And there’s more.


  9. What is this girlfriend beating clown smoking?



  10. The Grifter Project…..

    ‘Cuz grifters grift. It’s what they do.


    “The four founders of the Lincoln Project — Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, George Conway, and John Weaver — introduced their new venture to the world in a New York Times op-ed in which they described their aims as to prevent President Trump’s reelection by “persuading enough disaffected conservatives, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents in swing states” to vote against him and to take down as many Republican members of Congress as possible.

    But the project is a scam — little more than the most brazen election-season grift in recent memory. And it is working. As the ragtag band of three otherwise unemployed strategists plus one lawyer hoped, the allure of Republican-on-Republican violence has proven irresistible to the MSNBC set. Per their most recent FEC filing, the group has raised $19.4 million since its inception this past November.

    The gap between the group’s rhetoric and its actions is enormous. The Times op-ed declared that “national Republicans have done far worse than simply march along to Mr. Trump’s beat. Their defense of him is imbued with an ugliness, a meanness and a willingness to attack and slander those who have shed blood for our country, who have dedicated their lives and careers to its defense and its security, and whose job is to preserve the nation’s status as a beacon of hope.” And yet the group’s focus thus far has been on vulnerable Senate Republicans, notably the moderate Susan Collins and the mainstream Cory Gardner, who haven’t exhibited any such behavior. Neither has Joni Ernst, another target.

    The Lincoln Project’s ads don’t attack these GOP senators for supporting profligate federal spending, contributing to explosive debt, or enabling feckless foreign policy, nor do they bash President Trump for his incoherent trade policy or his failure to tame an ascendant administrative state. Rather, they attack Republicans from the left, in terms that please the Lincoln Project’s predominantly progressive funders. Rarely, across dozens of ads, is a political principle recognizable to anyone as center-right to be found. Is the Lincoln Project aware of who Abraham Lincoln was?

    That most spots sound instead like Democratic boilerplate — the type of partisan schlock a Democratic candidate might run against a GOP opponent in a D+5 district — may go some way to explaining where the Lincoln Project is coming from. One ad slams North Carolina senator Thom Tillis for proposed cuts to federal education funding and Obamacare while claiming he supports putting “kids in cages.” Another sandbags Colorado’s Cory Gardner for siding with Trump on health care and the environment. Yet another lectures Susan Collins that she works “for Maine, not Mitch McConnell.” In an ad assailing the Senate majority leader, the group dubs him “Rich Mitch” and smears him as someone who has used his office to accumulate wealth (ignoring that most of McConnell’s wealth comes from his wife, Elaine Chao, not from anything he did during his time as a senator).

    It’s one thing to object to candidates of (ostensibly) your own party on principled or even petty political grounds. It’s quite another to employ the ideas and vocabulary of those with whom you have fundamental philosophical disagreements. The Lincoln Project’s founders may have written, “Our many policy differences with national Democrats remain,” but they have yet to demonstrate one.

    This makes sense when one examines the Lincoln Project’s FEC filings. To date, the group has spent nearly $100,000 for “fundraising consulting services” with the Katz Watson Group. That firm’s founder, Fran Katz Watson, is a lifelong Democratic operative who previously worked as the national finance director for the Democratic National Committee. The firm’s long list of left-wing clients includes the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Beto for Senate. In addition, the Lincoln Project has spent large sums contracting with Elrod Strategies, the firm run by Adrienne Elrod, former director of strategic communications for Hillary for America, and has paid Zachary Czajkowski handsomely for “political strategy.” Czajkowski’s resume includes work for Barack Obama, former Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe, Hillary Clinton, and disgraced former California representative Katie Hill.

    If a group of unemployed strategists were looking to shape a persuasive center-right critique of Trump and his allies, these are not the talents they’d turn to. If, on the other hand, the aim was to open up anti-Trump wallets on the left, they couldn’t pick a better team. The Lincoln Project’s communications director is Keith Edwards. He previously worked on communications for Mike Bloomberg’s run in the Democratic presidential primary and as a staffer for New York City Council speaker Corey Johnson, also a Democrat. Johnson is on record as trying to kick a Christian relief organization, Samaritan’s Purse, out of New York City, after its staff set up a field hospital in Central Park at the height of the coronavirus pandemic. Never mind that these volunteers were risking their lives to help others; Johnson alleged that its presence was “painful” to “all New Yorkers who care deeply about the LGBTQ community.”


  11. The number games is a way to play fake news.

    According to the link – the percentage of deaths caused by Covid is going down. It doesn’t say the number of Covid deaths are going down. In fact after a two month long decline in the number of deaths, the number has actually stagnated since mid June at roughly 800-1000 a day. Things are not getting better, the US is simply treading water at this point. On a per capita basis its doing badly — whereas countries such as France and Canada have bent the curve and are flat lining the US per capita death rate continues to climb at the same rate. The US should have 10 times more deaths than Canada — on Saturday, the US had over 800 deaths caused by Covid, Canada had 9. Instead of 10 times its almost 100 times. This is happening day after day — hundreds of necessary deaths.


    Then why is the percentage of deaths caused by Covid going down? Perhaps in the summer, deaths caused by accidents go up as people vacation, go on trips, and kids make mistakes. Perhaps the heat causes an increase in strokes or heart attacks. Whatever the case may be the Covid deaths are not going down, its just other deaths are increasing.

    Its in this pandemic, children are asked to return to school…..


  12. Well perhaps that Mom and Navy vet should choose better friends. The company you keep matters. When you hang out with the rioting hordes, you might get mistaken for one of the rioting hordes when the head busting starts.

    But you know this.

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  13. “Its in this pandemic, children are asked to return to school…..”

    1.7% of the deaths.

    That’s the total % of all deaths for under 18.

    Going by that number, it’s time teachers got back to work.

    Maybe you should just stick with the “well they might catch something and take it home to older family” argument. That’s a more complelling case.

    And yes, there are less Covid deaths week to week. That’s trending. That’s an over 50% decline.

    Math is hard. Perhaps you need a refresher on the basics.


    “The CDC says the numbers “will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks,” but a 12-week decline is a well-established trend that just so happens to coincide with states reopening their economies.

    For the week ending Apr. 18, there were 16,395 deaths involving COVID-19 as reported by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). That number has dropped for 12 straight weeks, down to 1,099 deaths reported by NCHS for the week ending Jul. 11. The number of deaths attributed to COVID-19, pneumonia, and influenza has similarly fallen, from 21,060 for the week ending Apr. 18 to 2,174 for the week ending Jul. 11.

    To get some perspective, while just over 1,000 coronavirus deaths were reported for the week ending Jul. 11, there were 24,723 deaths from all causes in the U.S. For the week ending Jul. 4, the NCHS reported 2,462 coronavirus deaths out of 42,219 deaths from all causes.””

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  14. Total deaths from other causes is irrelevant to Covid deaths, the subject at hand.

    But you know this too.


  15. Your link states the percentage of total deaths caused by Covid is down; other death are causing a greater percentage of total deaths, Coivid’s share is going down. It does not say Covid deaths themselves are going down. And in fact the CDC data and data elsewhere indicates the number of deaths per day has stagnated for the last month at roughly 800 deaths per day depending on the sources. Look at the graph I link to — its flat lined at 800. Sure it looks good compared to April but stagnating at 800 for the last month is not a good sign. The US should be much lower.

    On a per capita basis this is a horrible rate. The EU countries, some of whom had a horrible death rate, are in the single digits — except UK. As I commented Canada has about 10 per day and the US has 800 — on a per capita basis this would mean about 700 extra deaths per day. This is not good. And not a reason to rush into reopening. Its quite clear lives are being sacrificed for economic stats.

    1.7% — so roughly 2 out of 300 children with cornavirus will die? OR does this mean about 2 of 300 covid deaths are children? Either way that’s a pretty cavalier attitude to children’s lives. How many are acceptable? Thus in areas like Arizona, Florida, Texas and California going to school will have deadly consequence. And of course we are not just discussing the children but also the staff and the families of both.

    As you and I both know, the 288 of 300 children who survive cornavirus will have life long repercussions to their respiratory systems and maybe their organs. Why reopen schools and risk death and long term damage to the children? School starts in September here and I will have no problem returning to work. I feel quite confident with the right protections in place my health and the children’s health will be fine. I would not feel the same confidence if I was in Arizona, Florida etc.


  16. “Either way that’s a pretty cavalier attitude to children’s lives. How many are acceptable?”

    You tell me. The flu kills kids every year, yet we don’t close schools as a general rule. Sure some individual schools may from time to time, but never whole counties, states, or countries. So obviously there’s an acceptable number to govt here, whether we like it or not.

    And once again you are simply using numbers known to be false an overstated in order to bash the US response. I’ve shown repeatedly over the last 2 weeks how partisans at the CDC have intentionally as well as accidentally messed up the numbers. Same goes for state numbers.

    Even my own state, which has now counted me as a recent Covid victim. This is false, misreporting, and frankly dishonest. I had an antibody test which was positive. My state counted that as yet another current infection, raising the total while doing so. This is crap, and so are their numbers.

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  17. Garbage numbers.

    Everybody gets a positive!

    They’re like trophies now. You get one just for showing up.

    Can you say “statistically impossible?”

    I knew ya’ could…….


    “FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results”

    “After FOX 35 News noticed errors in the state’s report on positivity rates, the Florida Department of Health said that some laboratories have not been reporting negative test result data to the state.

    Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive. Other labs had very high positivity rates. FOX 35 News found that testing sites like one local Centra Care reported that 83 people were tested and all tested positive. Then, NCF Diagnostics in Alachua reported 88 percent of tests were positive.

    How could that be? FOX 35 News investigated these astronomical numbers, contacting every local location mentioned in the report.

    The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.”


    Garbage in, garbage out.


  18. The flu death rate is generally about 0.1%, young people fully recover and the ability to spread is far less than Covid. To compare Covid to the flu is ridiculous.

    And now we shoot the messenger — the numbers are false. Florida has been minimizing their numbers for months and in fact fired staff who spoke up. Of course, data isn’t perfect but in general it balances out and the numbers are roughly correct. The unfortunate situation in America is data has become political and the decisions around covid are more about political consequences than the health of the people.

    My daughter went for a Covid test — she called, same day appt and the next day was told she was negative and of course it was free. Apparently, the same is not happening in the US — mistakes, backlogs, etc. From what you are telling me, a private for profit health care system can’t run basic tests and produce accurate data. You might want to try a public health care system — the data is accurate and tests are done in a day.

    I have a wedding in Michigan in October. I want the US to shape up but right now if I go to the US I will have to quarantine myself for two weeks without pay. This isn’t bashing the American response — this is simply stating the facts. The American response has been dismal. It has shown to the world the failure of the US administrative state. And this is not good; Russia and China want to use this to their advantage. The Europeans have lost faith and trust in the US gov’t. And individual responses vary from “schadenfreude” to pity. Myself I worry about friends and family.


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