75 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 3-20-20

  1. Good morning AJ, et al.
    This is also the first day this year that the temperature will pass 80 degrees. It’s supposed to reach 81 this afternoon.

    Don’t bother to consult Chas, jo. Doing nothing is very difficult for me. I used to read a lot when my eyes were better. In Hendersonville, there was always something to do, SS and Lions projects. But not now.

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  2. This may belong on the prayer thread. But it’s an experience, not a prayer.

    I was reading Romans 7 this morning. Every time I read that, I am reminded of an experience I had many years ago. I was teaching SS in Falls Church, Va. I was in my early thirties. My classmates were also that age. starting out on families and careers. I am reluctant, because I know I can’t reproduce the experience on-line.

    I was teaching Romans 7. It’s a heavy chapter, seemingly without hope. ” For I know in me dwellith no good thing”. “when I would do good, evil is present with me”, “O wretched man hat I am…” etc. I was teaching the Spiritual state of lostness.

    But I looked up and saw a man’s face light up. Indescribable.
    I said, “Ernie, read to the class what you just read”.
    Ernie said, “There is therefor now, no commendation to them which are in Christ, Jesus, who walk, not after the flesh, but after the “Spirit”.

    The experience is indescribable. But it sums up the human condition.
    ” There is, therefore, no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus;

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  3. Wow! Chas, that is so powerful. Great moment to tell us about. And a wonderful scripture passage that faces down guilt.

    I could not finish mowing yesterday. I gave out. Age is creeping up on me. I hope it remains dry enough for me to finish the chore shortly. It may be only ten minutes worth. I knew if I continued yesterday I would have passed out. I am not use to the combo of 80 degrees and physical exertion combined with high pollen count.

    The sound of birds seems much more distinct without the competing sounds from background noise we usually hear from a lot of traffic on the roads in the distance.

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  4. Art’s other preparer’s son has been exposed to COVID-19 so she will not be in. It is down to Art and the front desk lady now. I told my brother not to come in Saturday. I know he is not happy about that, but he has been out and about so much that it will be a miracle if he escapes infection.

    Sorry to hear that Donna and Michelle are under the new orders to stay home.

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  5. The traffic was lighter going to and from work yesterday. What was really startling was the price of gas. I make it a habit to never let my tank get below half, so last night on my way home I stopped to fill it up. Normally, it takes about 40 dollars to fill my tank from half to full. Last night, it clicked off at 21 dollars.

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  6. Morning!
    Thank you Chas for sharing your moment in time and the words He has given to us. I cried. The gravity of those words are real and deeply moving. Oh how He loves us ❤️

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  7. Thank you, Chas.

    And Jo is in CA.

    What to do. This is a rather normal condition for me, I do not go out. Though I need to get out and walk more, I have a stroller so baby and I can do that. Thirteen year old can do whatever while I am out.

    But the big thing is prayer. I believe now is a time for prayer for the believers. God is not surprised with this and He is there.

    Another thing is encouragement. As we are more and more housebound, God has blessed us with extraordinary communication opportunities. Contact old friends and relatives, fellow church goers, Let them know they are not alone. Remind them of God’s care.

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  8. Remember when NancyJill was puzzling over what God was going to do with her and thought, perhaps a coffee ministry. Getting out and visiting with friends over a cup of coffee. It has been wonderful watching her get involved in that and hearing how that is changing into an online cup of coffee.

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  9. I woke up this morning realizing what devastation has just hit our state.

    I am thinking of all the small businesses in our downtown that will be destroyed, most likely — the woman who, as a child had danced on Broadway, and sank her retirement savings into opening a little dance studio and has been struggling for years to keep it going; the family owned cafes and coffee houses, including the one that just spent considerable money to move into a newly restored older building and posted late last night they were closing their doors for now and thanked everyone for their support.

    Devastating.

    I can’t even imagine the widespread and deep impacts this will have.

    I also saw reader questions come into my email last night, confusion over “essential” vs. “non-essential” businesses (one man said his business is on different lists in the city-county vs. the state).

    My friend from the old neighborhood, who was left more than $1 million in inheritances from her parents and older brother and was always so confident she was “set for life,” as they say, is for the first time worried about her assets.

    I don’t dare look at my own modest 401K.

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  10. Carol texted this morning and said they remain confined to their rooms. Meals are being brought in for them. Meanwhile, we have one elder-care facility in one of our local beach cities that has had an exposure; one staffer tested positive and I believe 3 residents are being further evaluated at a hospital.

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  11. The other day, I mentioned that son in law had been hacked but was able to catch it in time. Daughter was also hacked and they did not, but they had very little in that account. Still, be aware of your accounts. Security son says something about multiple layers of passwords. Anyway, with more time on their hands, I suspect the under element will be busy.

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  12. I am so woefully behind on the daily comments, not only yesterday’s, but I am also about two days behind yesterday. (I thought I was only one day behind, then noticed the date.) So I am just gonna throw in random comments as I catch up. Here’s the first one:

    AJ – You wrote, “How about they just get over their bruised feelings for now and concentrate on something important, regardless of your age group?” From what I have seen, this could apply to both generations. As Cheryl pointed out, there are plenty of Boomers who are not taking this seriously.

    As for the Millennials in Nightingale’s life, and those I know and/or see on Facebook, they are indeed taking this seriously, and are doing what they can to prevent its spread.

    Most of my Boomer friends are also taking it seriously. Although our church did meet for service this past Sunday, Pastor Billy has announced that for the next several weeks, until we get the “all clear”, so to speak, we will have church at our “online campus”. 🙂

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  13. Michelle I love that song and the man who breathed out the words in song. When Hannah was but 5 years old, heard that song on the radio she looked over to me and said “oh Mom that is the best song in my world”! When she graduated from college I gave to her a lovely sign with the words of that song written upon it…she has it hanging in her room. I told her to look at it often and always remember Who has created this wonderful world and the beauty it holds.

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  14. The Seconds were planning on meeting with Second in-law’s side of the family this weekend, as it is Second in-law’s father’s birthday this weekend (Second in-law’s mother passed away before the Seconds were married). Tiny is a social creature and was looking forward to it. On Wednesday, she informed us, “I feel totally fine, so now we can go to Grandpa’s party.” She was later asking when they could go out somewhere. She can write her name, and is, with only casual instruction, acquiring as much knowledge about reading letters and numbers as she can, so she will sit down and cover a piece of paper with the letters she knows and tell us it is a letter for one of her cousins. Little Niece is an especial favorite with her, as Little is older by nearly three years, but like Tiny, is full of vividly imaginative narratives to act out in play. I think Tiny looks up to Little.

    It is hard on all of us not being able to go see the Youngests, especially as Youngest approaches her time of delivery (due in early April). Youngest told my mother this morning that Youngest in-law may be laid off from work. He works in the warehouse of a retail business that is considered essential, but the things they store in the warehouse are not considered essential. He has worked for this place since before they were married, but seniority counts for nothing in a non-unionized business. They should not feel the financial strain too much, as his parents have resources and the support the government is promising to those affected by all of this will be available .

    But some of my coworkers live from hand to mouth as it is, and I can tell they are worried. Work was odd. The unease is almost palpable, although I had more than one patient thank us for what we are doing. We nurses agree we can feel a storm coming. Thankfully, there are long periods of time between widespread epidemics, but it also means that when they hit, nobody has prior experience on which to draw from. This is uncharted territory for all, managers and workers alike. I wore a mask all day, as I still have vague symptoms (this cold lingers and the same symptoms seem to recur in cycles), and although I was not considered a candidate for testing, as I have had no obvious contact with a confirmed case or someone who traveled, I wanted to be sure that I did not pass anything on.

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  15. Meanwhile, back in Enduring Word Commentary, I’ve progressed to Revelation1.

    This was interesting, verse 16:

    We should consider the fact that this is the only physical description of Jesus given to us in the Bible. The only other description that comes close is in Isaiah 53:2: He has no form or comeliness; and when we see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him.

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  16. I am absolutely flabbergasted to see a picture on fb of my niece and two daughter’s visiting from MN to FL at my sister’s. My cousin was visiting last week. My mom is 92 and has had many, many stents. 😦

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  17. Our pastor shared a video (he does short youtube messages he posts on youtube) on this:

    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/cs-lewis-coronavirus/

    A good reminder on staying grounded. I believe this has been posted on the blog previously, but I found it (again) helpful this morning

    ______________________________

    (replace coronavirus for ‘atomic bomb’)

    In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

    This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.

    — “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948) in Present Concerns: Journalistic Essays
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  18. My mother-in-law is in a high-risk category because she is in her eighties (though she is still very active and healthy). She has one good eye and one bad, and recently had cataract surgery on her “good” eye that has been slow to heal, so she has been encouraged not to drive. (And of course she shouldn’t be “out and about” right now anyway.) We’re too far away to check in on her (though we’ve been calling her nearly every day). My sister-in-law is usually at her house more than once a day, but spent last weekend in the hospital while her husband waited for a pacemaker. Her granddaughter (my mother-in-law’s great-granddaughter) has just had the flu, so that household can’t visit. One of our daughters is good at checking in on Mom periodically . . . but she is now a nurse at a nursing home (she has worked there for some time, but only just got certified as a nurse), and she doesn’t dare visit old people outside her nursing duties lest she pick up the virus and transport it either into the facility or to her grandmother.

    There are simply so many levels of unforeseen issues with this.

    I mentioned to my husband that I have thought in the past how we often have no idea we’re seeing someone for the last time. I had a last, long, lingering hug with my sister-in-law, with neither of us saying “This might be the last time,” but both of us knowing it was likely it was. But I didn’t know with either parent or with my brother-in-law. (With my dad, I was just in the next room washing dishes; I looked in on him because his breathing sounded labored, and suggested Mom turn up his oxygen a bit, so I saw him within minutes of his death, but didn’t know that then.) We didn’t know the last time we went to church that we wouldn’t be meeting again for some time, no one knows how long, and in reality that we might never see some of our church family again. I have several siblings I haven’t seen for several years, some not since the family reunion we had in 2014, and that just might be the last time for some of them–and if any of them dies in this, we won’t be able to attend any funeral. And no, I don’t “expect” anyone in my family to die, but my parents’ offspring (including spouses) now total about 60 people, and I have a 90-year-old uncle and a bunch of cousins, and we have my husband’s family, and altogether it’s a lot of people in a lot of different states and another country or two.

    It’s a sobering, uncertain time to be alive.

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  19. Reading Peggy Noonan’s column last night I see where she also is now getting tested for the virus after having symptoms for a number a days now.

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  20. Kathaleena, totally understand as I am seeing that in my own family. Frustrating but I can also sort of understand. One person feeling that the other must be so needing of company that they will just break it for a little while. Or, this is so overblown I can do what I please.

    But life is short and we cannot hang on to it beyond our time. Praying for you and your mom.

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  21. Our church just sent out an email earlier yesterday indicating that the gatherings for the next two weeks (again) will be online only but expressing a hope that the elders and deacons can somehow figure out a way, provided things look more hopeful, to gather in some way in small groups in the weeks beyond that. Seems that possibility is out now with the new, tighter restrictions statewide.

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  22. The provincial public health website releases the approximate (20s, 30s, etc) ages, sexes, and regional locations of the new diagnoses of COVID-19. So far, the vast majority are travel acquired or contact of travel, but Ontario’s second confirmed death, a 55 year old man, had no such contacts. One of the largest (and very well run) nursing home facilities in a neighbouring region has just reported several cases – there have been a number of family members or friends who have lived in or had loved ones in that nursing home over the years, including my great uncle who died last year after a short bout with Alzheimer’s. Since there were many members of the church my mother and her family attended who chose that nursing home to go to over the years (when my great uncle was visitation pastor of my mother’s family church, he visited many seniors there over the years), there are undoubtedly people my parents and other family members and friends know in that nursing home.

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  23. Our elders are calling. We are holding our Twice Blessed food pantry tomorrow, but only staffing it with people under 40. Other than that, church is locked and closed.

    I’m seeing a lot of pastors and churches making use of FB. This morning I joined a prayer meeting with a former pastor who is now in Spokane. Actually, I’m benefitting from seeing a number of godly men with whom we worshipped over the years appearing on screen with wise and sound spiritual advice.

    We may not have our friends here, but Jesus is here and I’m thankful.

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  24. Yesterday, Janice asked for input on a study that claimed that those with certain blood types were more or less vulnerable to COVID-19. I could not reply at the time, as I was working (the post I did put up was during a break). Here is a link to the abstract of the study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v1.

    The abstract page makes it clear that this study has not yet been peer-reviewed. One of the things that happen in a peer review is that the statistical analysis is examined for errors. The statistics quoted in the abstract are not detailed enough for me to determine what the numbers are for the higher risk to Type A and lower risk to Type O, but the 95% confidence interval quoted is the standard looked for. As was drilled into my head in statistics, the 95% confidence interval means, “We are 95% confident that our results are not due to random chance.” Because I do not have all the numbers behind that confidence interval, I cannot say whether the confidence interval was calculated correctly – the main body of the study should convey where those numbers came from. The sample numbers are high enough to be able to get a good analysis – a sample number for a study needs to be at least 100 in order for accurate patterns to begin to be established. But, I do not have enough data to determine if the study is accurate or not, and, as the page of the abstract notes, the lack of peer review means it should not be put into clinical practice.

    Besides, there really is no way to use such information. If Type A people are more susceptible and Type O less susceptible, how would that change anything? I am type O, my entire immediate family is Type O. But I am more vulnerable because of my asthma, whereas my nieces and nephews, several of whom are Type A due to their fathers’ types (two Type A and one Type AB), are at a lower risk because they are all under 18. My parents are both Type O, but they are both over seventy. My mother is probably more at risk due to her ongoing health challenges, but my father, who is two years older than her, is probably less at risk because he has absolutely no chronic health conditions beyond the skeletal wear and tear that comes with old age. The possible affinity of the virus for one blood type is interesting from the point of view of those studying the virus, but practically, other factors outweigh the possible benefit or detriment of blood type.

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  25. Something that also needs to be determined with a study is how the sample was recruited. Was it random selection? Were those making the random selection blinded? There are so many questions. The study abstract claims that the percentage of Type O in the sample of the general population is 33.84%, whereas only 25.8% of COVID-19 patient were Type O, but worldwide, the distribution of Type O varies by region (the most common blood type in North America is Type O, whereas it is the least common type in Central Asia). In a different population with COVID-19, the blood type results may well be different.

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  26. Thank you, Roscuro, for your informed comment.

    In the past I read a book, Eat Right for Your Blood Type. It mentioned things about Type O that rang true to my experience as a type O. We are more susceptible to autoimmune disease because we have a very strong immune response. We are the oldest blood type and thrive more with a diet based on meat. I think that could possibly relate to the problem I have with the nightshade vegetable plants causing arthritis symptoms in my body. But this Corona virus has it’s own parameters for infection. Time and research will give answers.

    It seems I recall from reading the book that it is Japanese people who use the blood type to select marriage partners and choose employees to hire. It would be interesting to hear if they are putting stock in the info about blood type and Corona. They may have studies underway, too.

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  27. Our pastor started a mid-day online prayer meeting using Zoom videoconferencing this week. There have been five to eight people each day. It’s been a great blessing. He reminds us each day to think of something to be grateful about and share it. So in the midst of all this craziness I’ve been more aware of things to be grateful for than I am in a normal week.

    I’m grateful for all of you too.

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  28. Janice, I am aware of those books that talk of blood type, as my mother’s lifelong interest in alternative medicine has exposed me to a lot of different theories, including the Eating Right for Your Blood Type. The reason why I do not think the theory that blood types interrelate with diet and health in the way that book claims, is found in the phrase you used that Type O is “the oldest blood type”. The author of that book and others who have used that diet and blood type theory are using evolutionary archaeology as the sole basis for their reasoning, arguing that the different blood types evolved at different periods of human evolution – Type Of, according to the theory, was the only type around when human ancestors were hunter gatherers whose primary diet was carnivorous. It is not just the fact that I am convinced that humanity began with only two common ancestors which impacts my skepticism of such typing of blood types. It is also my knowledge of biology. When two people of different blood types marry, they each give their child half the genetic mix that child will have. Say a Type O marries a Type A, and ay the Type O parent has an autoimmune disease of the digestive tract that makes them sensitive to certain foods. Their children will be all Type A because if they have a gene for Type A and a gene for Type O, the Type A dominates. But the genes for forming the digestive tract digestion are not necessarily the same as those for blood type, so some of the children may well exhibit the same digestive problems as their Type O parent, even though they are Type A. Scientific studies of blood types and diet related diseases have not borne out that book’s theories.

    Many cultures, including the Japanese, use soothsaying, referring to zodiac signs and other fortune telling devices, to determine suitable marriage partners. Using blood type to predict the suitability of a marriage partner is just a variation on that theme.

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  29. Doing a story today on a local woman, a beach cities real estate agent, and her husband who now are quarantined & stuck on a river boat on the Amazon anchored off Peru (that country is on lockdown, with military enforcement); a harrowing tale. Talked to her a while ago but she’s emailed some amazing journal entries of her own. Trying to see if she can text us some photos.

    We’re all being given 1 paid day off next week, mine will be Tuesday. Much needed for all of us.

    … just got the text back from Peru (another one of those constant “dings” on my phone), she’s sending photos. They’re booked to fly out of there after their quarantine ends on the 31st but everything is so tentative, of course.

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  30. And just saw this:

    Vons, Albertsons, Pavilions workers get $2 hourly raise during coronavirus outbreak
    Workers will the extra pay through March 28.

    Much deserved!

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  31. Day 2 of work from home. I’m really trying to ‘shelter at home’ even though that hasn’t been asked of us yet. I will need to pick up the work mail on Tuesday and deliver it to camp so that bills can be paid.

    Daughter will be stopping by next week as well, but I’m hoping we can spend our visiting time outside as she will have been in hospitals and attending ambulance calls this whole time.

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  32. Earlier I got to be on a conference call for Small Business Ownrrs. I was not sure if it was going to be legit, but it was. 10,000 small business owners were muted on the line and the press was told they were not to be on the line, and it was off the record. It was an update from President Trump, the Labor Secretary, the SBA Director and the President’s Economic Advisor. It was nice to hear what is being done to help small businesses, what to expect so people can hold on to hope for a good recovery. I wish Art could have been on the line listening because he would have gotten even more from it than I did. I was able to share with Art one thing that I feel will be good for our business regarding retention of employees. I am so very thankful for the change in the tax filing deadline. That will help Art’s feelings.

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  33. I got out and went to the store for the first time in a week. Everyone seemed very aware of staying away from each other or passing quickly in the aisles. I got everything that I needed, even some things to take back to PNG. I had actually planned a couple of meals before I went and was able to find everything. They were out of bread and all out of tp. I mostly needed more milk. I checked the date on the containers and so got twice what I normally get since the date for expiration was April 5th.
    Then I went by the gas station and filled the tank on my van.

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  34. Evening all.

    The last 24 hours have been pretty rough. Fever comes and goes, as does the chills. Not really coughing or any other symptoms. It feels like what my daughter described having a week or so ago that she and Cheryl are still dealing with. I’m hoping it’s just the flu.

    And now the scary part…..

    A woman at church has been hospitalized and is reportedly doing well. But they have not said what her diagnosis was.

    Also one of the men, Glen, has been hospitalized for 3 days and was moved to the ICU. Again, no diagnosis given. The family is asking for privacy and that we keep it in house.

    He is someone I had interaction with a couple of weeks ago, so I’m very concerned, especially for my asthmatic wife.

    Here’s what bothers me. Do they not have an obligation, if he is a covid 19 victim, to inform the rest of us of this fact? It would be useful info for sick folks like me. I understand the family wanting privacy, but the greater good is not served well by silence. Thoughts?

    Especially Roscuro and RKessler, I’d appreciate your thoughts……

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  35. AJ, praying for you. Part of the problem is, according to Peggy Noonan’s column, that the test takes 3-7 days to get results, unlike the test for type-A flu, which gets results in minutes. (Which, incidentally, is why we didn’t wait for the cases to officially be diagnosed in our county. If (1) it takes 3-7 days to get results, (2) they aren’t even testing anyone who didn’t travel internationally or had contact with a known positive, (3) people can pass it on before they have any symptoms . . . well, it might have a good number of local cases before the first one is officially reported!

    Anyway, there’s a good chance they simply don’t have a diagnosis yet.

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  36. Or you probably can’t get tested without being able to say you had contact with someone who had it — that’s the same spot Noonan found herself in.

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  37. I never did comment on the header photo. It is a great blue heron in full breeding plumage. In other words, 100 years ago herons and egrets were being killed in vast numbers so that these plumes could be put on hats. ( https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-history-dept/2015/07/15/422860307/hats-off-to-women-who-saved-the-birds )

    Typically, great blue herons are shy. If they aren’t used to people, they will fly even if quite a distance away from a person. The trail I hiked earlier this week is one I walk less often, since it’s a drive from my house and not just down the street. I’ve seen herons fly over it, but had never seen one in the creek that comes near the trail in multiple spots. As I got back to the parking lot where I’d parked (there are several parking lots along the trail), a woman was in the water with a Labrador retriever, and they got out of the water. I wanted to cross the bridge to look at some daffodils I’d seen when I drove in, so I continued past the parking lot, and saw the heron in the water. But there were a lot of trees and shrubs between us and I didn’t get an open look.

    Soon I noticed, though, that the bird didn’t pay any attention to me, even when it was moving into more open spots, and I decided it was probably used to people. Then the woman and dog went past me behind me and the bird tensed for just a moment and then relaxed. So I walked onto the bridge to get a better view, and then I moved to where I had no trees between us to get a better view yet. While I watched, it caught at least two fish. (They swallow little fish pretty quickly, and so it isn’t always easy to know whether it’s caught anything, but I photographed it with a fish twice.)

    Great blue herons are quite common in Indiana, and I’d love to see them be our state bird. (They aren’t “common” like sparrows, but as in we might see three of them during our half-hour drive to church when we lived up north.) Through the years I’ve had a lot of chances to photograph them, but usually from a fair distance and almost always with grasses or other plants in between them. This is the best sighting I’ve had, and to get it when the bird is in breeding plumage is special. My hunch is it is a male and it has a nest, and thus hunting for its mate and itself is more important than being overly cautious about people–but that’s just speculation. Great blue herons nest communally, in heronries, and they might sometimes fly several miles to get food. But whether it’s a male or a female, in nesting season there’s a great need to collect a lot of food, and birds are often easier to see in early nesting season before the leaves come out, when they’re singing or gathering food, and otherwise more active than they might be later in the season.

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  38. Keeping you in prayer AJ…and trusting the Lord to bring to you healing ❤️
    It is my understanding that people who have been in contact with someone diagnosed with this virus are notified so as to limit further exposure. I would think if those persons had it you would be notified….and I would hope Glenn’s family would find it imperative to notify others with whom he had contact so that they would know they had been exposed! 😢

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  39. The real, what Nancy Jill said. They are pretty serious about tracking down cases. But people get hospitalized for lots of things.

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  40. The Real, COVID-19 is a reportable public health condition here, meaning each case has to be reported to the public health department. Public health then is supposed to do contact tracing, to identify those who should be tested. They will not inform those they trace about who was the person they had contact with, as that would violate patient confidentiality, but they should be informing them that they have had contact with someone who has had a positive COVID-19 result. The WHO had been saying all this time that it is not enough to quarantine and practice social isolation, countries must also trace and test each contact of each positive case. One problem is that public health departments are chronically understaffed and underfunded, so few public health departments are able to undertake what is necessary in a timely fashion (in times of calm, governments at any level trying save money invariably seem to ax public health funding). Another problem is that the labs that do this testing are backlogged. It is taking 4 days to get test results here, just because they can only culture so many tests at a time. A third problem is that tests are being rationed due to supply line problems with the swabs used to take the samples for testing. The swabs used here are manufactured, wait for it, in northern Italy: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/18/817801222/testing-swabs-run-in-short-supply-as-makers-try-to-speed-up-production.
    There is evidence that the virus has entered the community here and a study in Italy has shown benefit in identifying asymptomatic carriers, but public health departments are still limiting testing to those who have symptoms AND have either traveled, or had known contact with someone who traveled who is symptomatic, or who has had known contact with a positive case, simply because of the problems with lab backlogs and supplies of swabs.

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  41. A friend of mine in Ukarumpa just posted this on facebook in response to a question someone asked:
    we arrived back from our remote village one wk ago (as scheduled). At this point our branch directors here are in the process of pulling all teams out of their villages & regional centers & cancelling all national PNG training courses, n preparation for when they shut down domestic flights here in PNG. Any missionary here who has health issues-heart or cancer, have been flown out of country. The borders are closed for transiting through Aust and soon they will probably be closing the PNG borders, since they tested positive for the first Convid patient just yesterday. So yes, it has entered PNG & we are not really prepared in remote villages with no meds or clinics. we will be here at Ukarumpa center for the long haul, washing our hands for 20 seconds, doing social distancing as much as possible and have plenty of linguistic work to keep us busy. Thank you for asking, hope this note finds you doing ok.

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  42. Wash your hands, Kim and social distance. God knows your concerns and is working it out. You will be delighted with the finished product.

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  43. 1 case across the river in Quincy, IL. Missouri goes on the “stay home” plan, but our governor is exempting churches. However, all the churches we know of are already planning on closing, and doing live online or recording the sermon and putting it on YouTube. We’re considering “visiting” a church we know in Texas that way.

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  44. A silly little thing, but to me it shows how God takes care of even little details. I went out to walk around the church today and another gal was doing the same thing with her two little dogs. We were going opposite directions. She lives nearby and had even come to my ladies Bible study one time. As we talked she mentioned going in to work at a thrift shop. She said that they weren’t open, but that they were getting things ready.. As I walked along, I realized that this is the thrift shop, it supports our local crisis pregnancy center, where I had wanted to leave some things. In fact those things were in the back of my van. But that was the one little job that I had not gotten done before the shut down. So next time we came around I asked her if she could take them in for me. She said yes and I went and got them and put them in her trunk.
    Such a little thing, but the last thing on my list of errands.

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  45. So in New Mexico both the state and private labs are testing. Initially, you had to call the DOH and get approval to test. The person had to meet criteria prior to approval. They needed to be symptomatic: sore throat, fever, dry cough, with a negative flu A&B and negative RSV. Risk factors for international travel or US travel to areas like Seattle or NYC or known exposure to someone who had tested positive for COVID-19. When the private labs started testing, and had drive through testing centers, all that went out of the window. Anyone who is symptomatic is tested. Doctors all feel like their patients are the most likely to have the virus, so are ordering LOTS of tests….without known risk factors. The labs are flooded, and results take from 3-7 days.

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  46. The advice here is to self quarantine. Thus far, we have no positive cases who are hospitalized. Our state is now up to 43 confirmed cases with almost 4000 tests resulted. Most of the rural areas of the state have not even begun testing.

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  47. OK, now for notification. In NM, they have a system to notify those who have been exposed to a positive case. They are also supposed to self quarantine, so as to not expose others. I think that one of the first cases here worked at a bank. The bank sent out letters to all who were in the branch within the infectious time frame. Same with a positive church member. The church sent out a notification stating the date they could have been exposed, Neither of these would be HIPPA violations, as they referred to an employee or member, without other markers of identification.

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  48. Fever and chills sounds more like flu than what COVID is presenting as. The pneumonia that accompanies it is the problem. It is interstitial rather than lobular.

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