Prayer Requests 1-4-20

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Psalm 127

A song of ascents. Of Solomon.

Unless the Lord builds the house,
    the builders labor in vain.
   Unless the Lord watches over the city,
    the guards stand watch in vain.
In vain you rise early
    and stay up late,
   toiling for food to eat—
    for he grants sleep to those he loves.

Children are a heritage from the Lord,
    offspring a reward from him.
Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
    are children born in one’s youth.
Blessed is the man
    whose quiver is full of them.
   They will not be put to shame
    when they contend with their opponents in court.

18 thoughts on “Prayer Requests 1-4-20

  1. This is a prayer request for YA, not a complaint about her. 🙂 I am concerned about her. Excuse me for the length of this.

    In the past, I’ve mentioned that YA truly believes herself to be a “Jesus-lover” (her words), a true Christian, although many or most of her views go against what the Bible teaches, and her own attitudes, and the way she expresses them (at least online) are very un-Christ-like. Recently, she had posted something again about how evil the rich are, pointing out what Jesus had to say about the rich, particularly the verse about it being easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven (one of her favorite verses). She went on to say, in a comment on that post, that she has always believed in Jesus, and lived by His words, particularly the ones about people and money. How can one get through to someone who already believes they that believe? (That is rhetorical. I know that it is not my place, at least right now, to try. She would not hear me.)

    As you’ve seen from what I have shared previously, she does not in fact live by His words. But she truly believes she does, and that she loves Him, even as she disbelieves and disobeys so much of what He taught.

    Then there was that comment about how she had been rejected by every single church she had ever been in (she says there were at least 20), proving to her that Christians, particularly conservative believers (btw, I use “conservative” in this comment to refer to theology, not necessarily politically, although they often overlap), are unloving and hypocritical and even cruel. There was also an email she wrote years ago when we were exchanging emails on some matter, in which the way she described churchgoers she had observed showed that she was/is very bitter towards them.

    What she is not acknowledging, and maybe cannot see, is that she was a socially awkward child and teen. She includes my former church among those who rejected her, but I know that to be untrue. But often people who are socially awkward or have other similar problems misread the situation. I knew someone else like that, who felt that she was not accepted even while people were reaching out to her, to show her their love and acceptance.

    Anyway, she has a bitterness towards conservative Christians that she expresses online, and probably in her off-line life as well. And she is very un-self-aware, in this and other ways. Considering she was a psychology major, and considers herself quite intellectual, it has surprised me just how un-self-aware she is. It seems to have never occurred to her that it is unlikely for the people in 20 churches to all reject her, that maybe it was a matter of her own perception due to her insecurities. She may not even acknowledge her insecurities.

    So my prayer is that the Holy Spirit will move in a deep way in her heart, to transform her heart, mind, and life, to lead her into a more true and deeper understanding of God, His ways, and His word, as well as to heal the hurt she feels from the rejections she experienced, whether real or perceived. I will admit that my prayers for her are not pure, because I am not praying them only for her. I know that she has poisoned my Chickadee’s mind with her bitterness towards “conservative Christians” and church, and I think her attitude may poison others as well, such as her younger sister. So my prayer is for her sake, but also for the sake of the people she may influence.

    (An aside: YA has written with strong regret about when she was very conservative as a middle-schooler and teen, carrying her Bible everywhere, speaking out against abortion and other politically conservative issues. It seems that her perceived rejection pushed her into embracing the woker-than-woke progressivism that she now espouses. She has found the “acceptance” she craved among those folks. This too, is a sad thing. I may get annoyed at her tone and superior attitudes, but I really do feel sorry for her, and pray for her.)

    Sorry this was so long. Thanks for reading and for praying.

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  2. About those 20 churches. . .Her parents did have a Baptist church that they went to on and off for a while, and their daughters came to the Wednesday evening kids’ programs at my former church for several years, and I guess they visited other churches, but didn’t seem to be regular at any, at least not for any length of time. So YA never really got to settle into a church and experience the kind of love and “acceptance” that comes from belonging to a church family.

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  3. The fact is that many of those woker-than-woke progressives would turn their backs on her should she decide to think differently than them. Many have found that out. Maybe that is what it takes for some. Knowledge and intelligence have nothing to do with wisdom. As we know on this blog, “Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” So many to pray for!

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  4. I can’t find it now, but there was a good 3-minute clip posted the other day of Sinclair Ferguson who said, among other things, that the Christian’s first response as a believer is to “shut their mouth.” He goes on to cite he many Scripture passages showing how the saints often were simple and absolutely silenced in the presence and acknowledgment of the true and living God.

    Listening is where we must all continually turn. Instead, Ferguson pointed out, we live in a culture in which we’ve all been “trained” to have opinions. Everyone talks, no one listens anymore.

    In YA’s case, I’d say there’s a good cause to doubt the validity of her salvation. It may have been a passing ‘phase’ that she now finds more convenient to sometimes “claim” in her new politically-woke phase.

    I also suspect she was not shy in trying to instruct churches she’d visit on how they were missing the mark completely, criticizing them for not being true churches (based on the social/political ‘gospel’)?

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  5. And of course one of my favorite quotes from Ferguson:

    “God has two sheepdogs: Goodness and Mercy. He sends them to us from his throne of grace; sometimes to bark at us, to badger us; sometimes to woo us by persuading us that His will is good and perfect in our lives.”

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  6. Following up on my 2:55 comment (which contained a few typos, apologies) — there are “many” Jesuses people like to claim in order to bolster their own political or cultural views. The question is “which” Jesus are they referring to?

    Sometimes people are just poorly instructed, misguided or too driven by their own self-will; other times they’re only using (their or a particular) Jesus to push their own political opinions, perhaps sometimes subconsciously, still thinking they’re a believer but apparently not pursuing any kind of honest self-searching process to make sure they are in the true faith as contained in the Bible.

    It’s all about them, and all about the politics or other cause that is central in their lives.

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  7. Kathaleena – Oh, yes, most definitely they would turn their backs on her if she changed her positions.

    DJ – During the time when she was going to those churches (sporadically), she was still in her conservative phase. It was in college that most of her opinions changed.

    *******
    From Jenna:

    “Update on Josh. He has now been off of the breathing tube for about 24 hrs. I didn’t post yesterday because there was a chance that he may go back on, but God answered direct prayers and he is still progressing well. Still has work to do with lung strength but today is looking to be a good day. His recognition is better and much more alert and following direction without confusion. Still no clear answers as to why. Thank you all for continued prayers. Please pray for continued healing and restoration for his lungs, brain and everything else that may have become weak during this. Pray for peace for his mind and spirit as things aren’t normal. Pray for patience for his mind and spirit so that he isn’t anxious about leaving. Pray for answers to be revealed with full clarity.”

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  8. College can be one long course in indoctrination, unfortunately. And it’s fast seeping into the public schools in K-12 grades as well. It’s good that the homeschool movement re-launched when it did a few decades ago and is now so much more established and mature/available for families who can team up to share resources and teachers.

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  9. And maybe she’s come to the conclusion she was “rejected” by those churches after-the-fact — now that she looks back with the more critical lens acquired and absorbed as part of her new and growing wokeness. At the time, she may have just been awkward, as you said, or too self-absorbed to figure out how to fit in and just “be new.”

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  10. DJ – Your 3:03 comment reminds me of the time YA said she didn’t care what happened to a Christian lady in the news who was in danger of losing her business, her home, and her life savings for not providing the flower arrangements for a same-sex wedding. I pointed out that the lady is a fellow believer, I quoted a couple scriptures about how we are to treat each other.

    Her response was that she would have a talk with Jesus about why she “doesn’t give a fig what happens to horrible people.” (That’s an approximate, but very close, quote.) I shuddered inside at the thought of that.

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  11. DJ – That may be true, that she has decided that in hindsight. But she did write that it was very painful at the time.

    *******
    Boy is back from his dad’s, saying his tummy hurts pretty bad. Let’s pray that he will not end up throwing up, and the discomfort will pass soon. Thanks.

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  12. One verse that comes to my mind regarding YA is Matthew 7:21: “Not every one that saith unto Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father who is in Heaven.”

    Calling yourself a Jesus-follower doesn’t make you one. Of course, I’m sure she’d say she is doing the will of God with all her social justicing, and those who aren’t “woke” aren’t doing the will of God (or enough of it).

    I wouldn’t admonish YA by pointing out that someone is “a fellow believer” of hers. That feeds her “I’m a believer in Jesus” mentality, which, like DJ said, is very much in question, given the fruit YA has shown.

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  13. 6 Arrows – Yes, I think of that quite often. The thought of YA one day dying, thinking she is going to Heaven, and then hearing those words, makes me shudder for her. She needs to truly know Jesus and truly believe His word. It seems like it would be harder to get through to someone who thinks they’re all set.

    That “fellow Christian” comment was a few years ago, before I became more convinced that she may not have saving faith. (I hesitate to come out and declare that she definitely doesn’t, but I doubt it now.)

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  14. Kizzie, tell me again who this Josh is for whom you’ve been posting prayer requests? You probably mentioned how you know him (or his mom?), but I can’t remember.

    Praying, anyway, for him.

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  15. Josh’s family goes to my church. He is in his early 20s. This seizure thing happened to him back in March, and they thought it was all over when it came back all of a sudden right before Christmas.

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