65 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 1-3-20

  1. Good morning! Where is everyone? I have been up since 5:30 trying to get a car towed. I called at 6:30 for the tow trying to get ahead of the rush. They conveniently messed up and now won’t be here until 9:30ish. I needed the car in the shop by 8 or 8 30. We make our plans . . . but must always remember to add in the Atlanta factor that means things will get goofed up in some manner. But God is ultimately in control so I will let His peace reign.

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  2. MUMSEE In the last couple of days I saw where you were stating that Daughter was having issues with nursing. I hesitate to suggest this and especially knowing your children’s backgrounds.
    Maryland DIL nursed both of hers and belonged to several breast feeding support groups (how DID women do it before the experts showed up? Me? BG came here knowing what to do and my body decided I had been through enough with infertility and decided to cooperate—I could have nursed a village.
    Anyway, DIL in the beginning – first 6 weeks would occasionally drink a dark, malty beer. It helps with milk production and I supposed relaxed her just a bit. I did a quick Google search and it seems there are quite a few non-alcoholic beers that produce the same results.

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  3. And that header? Who knew one could find beauty in the dead of Winter. However, that one on the upper left reminds me of an empty wasp nest.

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  4. In the banner overall I see heather gray. One of my favorite clothing colors.

    I had a wasp’s nest a few years ago hanging from the eves of my garage.

    I have one story to do today but am trying to find a 2nd one as we’re very “thin” on copy for the weekend ahead. That may be hard, neither ports have meetings scheduled until mid-January and no agendas are available yet.

    Maybe something else will pop up.

    It’s the end of the holiday dead zone for us. This and the 4th of July and the last couple weeks of summer are typically the hardest times to find anything newsy to write about.

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  5. Thanx Peter. I’ll read the comics later. I’m up to my neck right now. But I want to tell this.

    I was getting Elvera ready to go to the Adult Center this morning. She started talking about a dream she hid that was so realistic to her. She dreamed that she met her brother Bob. Bob was just a little older than her. But he was a Marine in WW II. but that’s another story. Thing is, it seemed so real to her, like she was still in it.
    The interesting thing to me is that she woke about 6:00: this morning talking about Elizabeth and her family. I didn’t know what she was talking about until it occurred to me that Elizabeth was Bob’s wife. She is the only one of that family I knew.

    The interesting thing is that it appears that she transferred mentally from a sleep dream to a wake discussion without a break. Never heard of that before.

    I have a luncheon with my SS class that I need to get ready and attend.
    Carry on:

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  6. Finally I am at the auto shop with both cars to switch over the tires, get a new tire to replace the flat, take care of the second flat spare (Wesley got the other flat spare repaired yesterday), and who knows what else. Up since 5:30 taking care of business and here I sit with books, a paper pad, a pen, and half a brain. Wonder what will happen next?

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  7. Linda – There is something creepy about a whole bunch of holes together. I’ve always gotten a slightly creepy feeling from them, but never thought much of it until you mentioned your own aversion to them. But my reaction is not as deep as yours.

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  8. Another beautiful header! Every season has its own beauty, and the muted winter palette allows the intricate textures to shine. The photo would make a good card or a page in a calendar.

    As I pulled out to go to work yesterday I saw what appeared to be 2 male and 1 female Eastern Bluebirds fluttering around the house. I’m hoping they decide to nest in the dogwood tree on the side. I’ve seen nest boxes in the park a few miles away and they seem to attract the bluebirds. I’ve had a box on a tree in the back of the house for a couple of years with no luck. Perhaps the hole is too large. The chickadees are trying to take over the screened porch again–mostly because we are never out there. I may or may not let them stay. Our living room has a huge window that gives us a good view of their antics on the porch. But I may have to finally board up Samster’s entrance, which is how they come in. A neighbor said he saw a racoon walk up Samster’s ramp and through his door onto the porch, and that is not a visitor I want right now. There is a limit to how much wildlife I’m prepared to clean up after. :–)

    DJ, I saw you referred to one of your sources the other day and said their names sounded fake. I knew of a John and Mary Smith. And when I was a teenager and lived in a small city in Indiana, I knew 3 people named John Smith—only 2 were related, and none related to John and Mary. As is said, sometimes life is stranger than fiction….there seems to be alot of that going around these days….Of course, there is alot of fiction going around too. Good luck figuring it out. :–)

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  9. Yesterday on Facebook, I shared an article that says that abortion was the leading cause of death worldwide last year, with 42 million performed, “more than twice the number of all worldwide deaths caused by cancer, smoking, alcohol, traffic accidents, malaria, and HIV/AIDS combined.” I had prefaced it by saying that even the staunchest pro-choicer should be disturbed by that number.

    One of my FB friends who is quite liberal made the point that there are at least as many miscarriages as abortions. She questioned why there in not a push by pro-lifers to research and stop miscarriage, which we often refer to as a natural thing and/or God’s will, saying that if all those deaths occurred after the baby was born, we would “sing a different tune”. She ended with, “And that’s what we call hypocrisy.”

    Maybe she has a bit of a point there? Anyone here have any input on this?

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  10. Karen, your FB friend is mistaken. Hypocrisy is saying or saying you believe something but do the opposite. I wouldn’t worry about someone who doesn’t even know that. Or worse, is intentionally using the wrong word because it is derogatory and insulting.

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  11. Kizzie, most miscarriages are early, and come because the embryo or fetus has problems that don’t allow it to live. And natural death is much different from murder. Would we be more concerned about a terrorist blowing up a nursing home or of everyone above the age of 95 dying in that nursing home in a single year? Of course we are more concerned about murder than about natural death! And if she is talking about preventing later-term miscarriages and stillbirths, I’m pretty sure that the medical community and mothers would argue with her assertion that we don’t work to prevent them!

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  12. The header is a collage of photos I made of an informal photo series I have been taking this winter. Most of these were taken in a single day; I went to several patches that had good wildflowers this past summer specifically looking for their winter remnants. The photo at lower right was taken on a different day on a walk with my husband, and it’s from a tree. I don’t know if it is an actual blossom or what is left after the blossom fades, but there were several of them on the tree and I found the tree quite pretty as a result.

    (Sorry about the holes. That particular photo is one of my own favorites from the collection, but yeah it does have holes.)

    I made collages of several other sets of photos I took in 2019, such as wildflowers and birds, and I sent AJ a few more of them.

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  13. I never heard of people being upset by holes until it was mentioned here. I learn quite a bit here. 🙂

    My uncle met my aunt at a USO dance during WW2. She thought he was lying about his name, which is very common. He apparently finally convince her, since she took his name.

    My sister claims to be pro-life, since she cares about babies after they are born. Thus she is not like everyone in the so called pro-life movement. They really want all babies, children and handicap people to suffer and die. That is the argument these days, Kizzie. There comes a time when responding to such nonsense is a waste of time and energy. Each has to decide when that time is. Jesus didn’t continue to argue nonsense; nor did the disciples.

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  14. Miscarriage is natural and other than taking care of ourselves early in the pregnancy (when few know they’re pregnant)–few can be stopped and medicine doesn’t really know how to prevent them.

    Abortion is a deliberate choice someone makes.

    It’s a foolish argument.

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  15. Guy didn’t want his name used. Editor said to push him. He finally agreed (thanks largely to his more good-natured wife who was on the other line and said, “Oh don’t be grumpy, let her use your name”) but then the name was the name of a place. Huh? Is that *really* your name? come on … Yes both he and his wife insisted. We finally confirmed it with a nexus search.

    Funny about the use of the word hypocrisy in that comment, Kizzie. Makes no sense.

    And yes, miscarriages are valiantly fought and sometimes with that they can be and are prevented.

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  16. Miscarriages are devastating to the parents when they want the child. There is even a term for the next baby born after a miscarriage or infant death.
    Lost babies are angel babies.
    Rainbow babies are the rainbow after the storm..
    https://www.google.com/search?q=rainbow+baby&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS701US701&oq=rainbo+ba&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l7.6539j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Last summer I had a friend go through a pregnancy that she knew would end in a little girl who would not survive. Harper was born and lived a few hours. Her mother and father held her until they had to let her go. They went through with the Mass of Christian Burial. Her mother posted,
    “Harper, I carried you under my heart for 9 short months, I will carry you in my heart for the rest of my life.

    One of my agents chose to go through with a pregnancy of conjoined twins. Her girls were born and lived several hours. They had special christening dresses made and they priest came to the hospital to christen they. Every year on their birthday she posts pictures. They picture of those girls lying in the isolette, their mother and father holding hands, and the priest blessing them makes me cry.

    THAT my friends is PRO life and STRENGTH.

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  17. I’m regressing. This cold is debilitating and vying with my urge to get going and doing!

    I’m currently living on Monster C juice, Airborne, tea, and DayQuill.

    At least I put away Christmas yesterday. Today? I may have worn myself out already! LOL

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  18. Rest, michelle!

    There’s a family in my church with two elementary school children — but she’s tried since to have another child and has suffered a string of miscarriages, the last one late in a pregnancy that finally looked like it was going to bring them their long-awaited new baby. It was especially disheartening when that happened, she was so excited that finally she’d passed the mark where it appeared so hopeful.

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  19. I’m waiting for the whale expert to call me back. She’s married to one of our former photographers (who now specializes in marine photography), I haven’t talked to her in a while.

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  20. Kim, I wouldn’t use the term “angel babies” (though I wouldn’t argue with a mother who was using it, I wouldn’t use it myself), because presumably it is borne out of the erroneous idea that people become angels when they die. A friend of mine who had a miscarriage said that someone else they talked with recommended they name the baby, and they did so, and so occasionally they would refer to that baby by name (“when we lost Chip” or “before I got pregnant with Chip,” that sort of thing).

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  21. The friend I mentioned is a scientist of some sort, and not the kind to be ridiculous or over-the-top in her comments. Her point was that if we care about the lives of unborn babies enough to fight against abortion, wouldn’t we also be pushing for a way to save unborn babies from being miscarried, and that we seem to accept something that we definitely would not accept if it happened to already born babies. I get her point, although I do not agree with her conclusion about it.

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  22. Linda – Her use of hypocrisy was referring to saying that one cares about the lives of unborn babies, and thus fighting against abortion, and yet accepting miscarriage without pushing for a way to prevent it (more than we already do). But of course I think she is mistaken.

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  23. In between KJ and Flyboy we lost a baby early in pregnancy. Like the other two he had an en utero name, “Cubby”. We still refer to him as Cubby whenever he comes up in conversation.

    It was sad losing Cubby, but if he had lived we would not have Flyboy, who came only 5 months behind.

    (We call him “he” since we don’t know what he was and all of us, including big sister, hoped for a boy.)

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  24. A friend of mine attended a baby shower that was held really late in a pregnancy because the mother had married late and it was considered a very high-risk pregnancy. She might have been 42 or so, I’m not sure. Two or three days after the shower, on her due date, she had a stillbirth–everything had checked out fine just days before. I was in my early thirties at the time, and single, and it was quite sobering. (I’d given up on ever getting married; I’d determined in my twenties that if I made it to 30 single, I’d consider myself single and move on, since the chances of marriage at that point seemed so remote.) I remember wondering whether a woman in that case, knowing she never had another chance, would at least be grateful for the nine months. And no, I was not thinking that someone should tell her that, but wondering if a mother herself would feel “At least God gave me that much; at least I held her in my belly.” A younger mother wouldn’t, if with that miscarriage went her only chance, but an older mother, who’d probably given up all hope of ever conceiving as she went through her thirties single, just might, I don’t know.

    A few years later a man in my church married a woman from another church (and brought her to ours) who was just slightly older than him; he was 39 and she was 40 or 41, as I recall. They figured the chance of having a child was slim, but God could send one if He wanted them to have one. She conceived at 43 and the whole pregnancy was super high risk. She was due about the time of her 44th birthday and thought that would be a wonderful birthday gift and also a really cool birthday (10/10/10), but he was born two or three days later. When he was a few months old his mother rushed him to the hospital having trouble breathing; his breathing sounded so bad a nurse grabbed him out of her arms as she was signing in. He was diagnosed with RSV I think it was, normally (they were told), a “daycare disease,” only he wasn’t in a daycare. He was in real danger for a few days and I prayed fervently, “God, You know how much they wanted this child, and that he’ll be the only one they can ever have. Please let him live!” He’s a healthy nine-year-old now. From our wedding day we have a precious photo of him at just over a year, his face smeared with chocolate.

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  25. I have caught up on the blog! Kizzie why does she suggest pro life persons do not fight against miscarriage? Right at this moment a dear friend’s daughter is at the doctor’s office due to what is suspected to be a miscarriage. This doctor will examine her and do whatever is medically possible to help save this baby…what more does your friend expect?! And if this baby’s life should come to an end this day we shall mourn the loss. 😢
    I had a very early morning breakfast with a sweet friend who lost her husband a couple of months ago…he was 67. She recounted the evening he died and she cried…I cried. The loss of life grips our hearts and we come along side, listen and offer ourselves in support. The accusing finger becomes so wearisome after a while……

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  26. As I said at the time of Ava’s short life, the 28 weeks we had her in utero, were all the parenting her parents were able to do. They used their time to consult with doctors and make the best decisions they could for their daughter. Frankly, your friend’s words are insulting to what my family went through agonizing and praying for our little girl in the short time we “knew” her.

    Why make such an ugly hurtful statement?

    Enough.

    Here’s something lovely: Our now nine-month Ellie surprised us all on New Year’s Day by looking at her father (my son #2) and saying “Da-da.” The smile on his face in response was the most joyful thing I’ve seen in 2020.

    She’s cruising the furniture now. Tears in my eyes and thank yous to you all for praying for her, as well asl her late sister.

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  27. Kizzie, there is a place for trying to encourage women not to smoke, use drugs, etc., or other things likely to harm an unborn baby. There is a place for medical research to deal with such issues as are likely to compromise a later pregnancy (women’s medical issues, pre-eclampsia and the like). But we aren’t all called to the same place in helping people. Roscuro will have more resources to help a woman with a problem pregnancy; Mumsee adopts children; Michelle encourages women who don’t see how they can raise children. As has been said before, it’s pro-life people who choose to have children and who adopt other people’s children, and they also help women in crisis. There is indeed more to being pro-life than being anti-abortion . . . but there isn’t “less” to being pro-life. And the most pro-life people I know are also actively involved in other means of supporting human life.

    Honestly, though, if there is a charge of “hypocrisy” going around, it makes a lot more sense to apply it to those who are willing to help a woman have a healthy pregnancy . . . unless she wants to kill the child, in which case they are willing to help her kill it. You wouldn’t trust a person who whispered, “If you ever want to get rid of your father-in-law, I know someone.” So why would you trust a person who thinks it a matter of indifference whether you give birth to a healthy child or choose to deliver a dead one? (By the way, in a community of this size, there may well be someone who has made that choice, and as in all sins, God forgives this one. But it helps no one not to acknowledge it as a sin and an evil choice. One cannot be pro-life and think it’s OK to kill someone who’s inconvenient.)

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  28. Cheryl, I’m glad your friend’s baby survived RSV.

    Mrs. B. was 39 and 44 when she gave birth to KJ and Flyboy. We knew when we got married at an “advanced” age that we might have few or no children. We’re grateful to have the two.

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  29. Cheryl I won’t quibble with a parent calling the lipstick child an angel baby. Perhaps Rococo Cherub would be more appropriate.
    Having gone through infertility I think it would be harder to conceive and miscarry than not to conceive at all. At least with infertility you never really get your hopes up.

    I admire the 3 women I know who chose to give birth and endure the loss once they were born.

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  30. I had a miscarriage at 45 and a healthy ‘high risk’ pregnancy at 46. More than 75% of miscarriage is from an unknown cause, thus unpreventable. The other 25% are from a k own cause
    , such as an incompetent cervix, fetal disability, maybe drugs or alcohol. Old school doctors used to put you on bed rest at the first sign of spotting. That us no longer the recommendation. Whatever will be will be when if comes to pregnancy and birth.

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  31. Kinn, 🙂 Never heard “lipstick child.” I said I wouldn’t correct someone who used the term for their lost child–I just wouldn’t use it myself. Human beings are made in the image of God; we aren’t “less than” angels, and we don’t become angels. So I don’t think “angel baby” elevates the baby, and theologically it’s misleading. It also puts an unnecessary barrier between the person and the lost baby, because it presents the baby as in effect now an altogether different being. So if somehow I were asked to talk to a group of people who had lost babies, I wouldn’t use that term, but if someone used it in conversation with me, I wouldn’t say anything about the term unless they really seemed to believe their baby was now an angel.

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  32. My friend’s daughter lost the baby. There was nothing to be done and we now mourn the loss of their second child. She was in her first trimester and all looked to be going well..until today. 😢

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  33. I haven’t read all the comments yet, but want to clarify something. She was not referring to what expectant mothers and their doctors do to prevent a miscarriage when it is thought one possible, but rather she was referring to there not being a big push for medical research to prevent them even in the earlier months. She said that if newborns were dying at the same rate as there are miscarriages, there would be a big push to research what was causing it and how to prevent it.

    Not saying I agree with her assessment, but I understand what she is trying to get at.

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  34. Cheryl – I was just making a similar comment to YA – that pro-lifers indeed care about and are involved in many ways of helping mothers and babies and others. YA was not the commenter I mentioned earlier, though.

    But she and the other lady are focusing on the women of the world who are in really bad circumstances – abusive relationships, homeless, having no financial resources, pregnant by rape (particularly in areas of the world affected by wars or other violence), underage, etc. I don’t know percentages, but they seem to think that very few women choose abortion due to convenience. (I think that percentage is higher than they would like to admit.)

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  35. Someone at Hubby’s memorial service told me that now Hubby was my guardian angel. I smiled politely, but didn’t say anything. He was trying to be comforting.

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  36. We know a family who had three boys before she miscarried. They took the baby home and had funeral. Since they lived in the country they could bury the baby in the yard. Later she had another boy at age 42.

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  37. Kizzie, I didn’t say that women and girls choose abortion for convenience, but that they kill the “inconvenient” child. That child might be very seriously inconvenient–it might be a child who changes her life in very real ways, it might be the child of incest, or a difficult pregnancy might make her drop out of school or quit a good job.

    Thing is, we simply don’t kill people because they’re inconvenient–even very seriously inconvenient. We find a way to care for the person who needs help, and that’s what the pro-life movement has attempted to do. The same argument that allows a woman to kill her child because she sees no way to care for him should allow Chas to kill Elvera (God forbid) and, for that matter, Nightingale to kill X. Similar arguments allowed Nazis to kill homosexuals, people with low intelligence, and Jewish citizens. We don’t want to live in that sort of brutal world. Either human life–even radically inconvenient human life–is precious, or we live in a brutal world in which it’s cheap.

    As it stands now, there’s a whole lot of incentive for a boyfriend to apply pressure for a girl to abort his child and save him from any responsibility. Wouldn’t it be better to apply the social pressure to the boy taking responsibility than to having society pushed to endorse and support killing that child? We should do everything we can to turn a mother’s heart toward her child, and find ways to help her care for the child–not to encourage her hardening her heart toward the child nestled in her womb.

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  38. Cheryl – I agree.

    Not sure if my use of the word “convenience” was related to what you wrote. Earlier today, while reading their comments, I had been wondering how many women abort not due to tough circumstances, but for convenience.

    Actress Alyssa Milano recently said that she has had a couple abortions, and that if she hadn’t, she would have missed a lot of the joys she has experienced in her life. IOW, she just plain didn’t want a child to interfere in her life. 😦 I hope that that is a rare attitude, but I know that there are other women who have had the same motive for abortion. But a lot of pro-choicers don’t usually want to acknowledge that.

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  39. Lipstick child was autocorrect
    Lost child is what I typed

    When most people use the word angel they aren’t thinking of fierce angels.

    Haven’t you heard someone say “Aren’t you an angel”. That’s a compliment. Being called an angel after the ones in the Bible would be
    More like aren’t you a bull dog.

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  40. Kim, my husband calls me his “angel” with no risk of theological misunderstanding. There simply is a common misunderstanding in our culture–something that people actually believe to be true–that people become angels after death. I assume the “angel child” is based on that myth, and thus I personally wouldn’t use the term. That’s all. 🙂 “Angelic” child I think I could handle, because that’s more clearly descriptive.

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