44 thoughts on “News/Politics 6-19-18

  1. Sharyl Attkisson, doing the job most of the media fails at.
    Just reporting the facts.

    50 Media Mistakes in the Trump Era: The Definitive List


    “We the media have “fact-checked” President Trump like we have fact-checked no other human being on the planet—and he’s certainly given us plenty to write about. That’s probably why it’s so easy to find lists enumerating and examining his mistakes, missteps and “lies.”

    “But as self-appointed arbiters of truth, we’ve largely excused our own unprecedented string of fact-challenged reporting. The truth is, formerly well-respected, top news organizations are making repeat, unforced errors in numbers that were unheard of just a couple of years ago.”

    Our repeat mistakes involve declaring that Trump’s claims are “lies” when they are matters of opinion, or when the truth between conflicting sources is unknowable; taking Trump’s statements and events out of context; reporting secondhand accounts against Trump without attribution as if they’re established fact; relying on untruthful, conflicted sources; and presenting reporter opinions in news stories—without labeling them as opinions.

    What’s worse, we defend ourselves by trying to convince the public that our mistakes are actually a virtue because we (sometimes) correct them. Or we blame Trump for why we’re getting so much wrong. It’s a little bit like a police officer taking someone to jail for DUI, then driving home drunk himself: he may be correct to arrest the suspect, but he should certainly know better than to commit the same violation.

    So since nobody else has compiled an updated, extensive list of this kind, here are:
    50 Notable Mistakes and Missteps in Major Media Reporting on Donald Trump

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  3. One more comment on the immigration outrage de jour and I will have done with it. I hope all the outraged moralists will recognize their own words when the ‘evil’ of separating children from their parents becomes a valid argument in court to avoid jail time for those who commit illegal acts or are accused of it and denied bail. Actually, that might not be the worst thing to happen in all this. America jails more people than any other nation on earth. Not only that, we’ve made an actual business of jailing people; and it makes a tidy profit for those souls low enough to invest in that brand of human misery. Perhaps it would not be a bad thing if this outrage were to spill over. We might see prison reform.

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  4. @8:28 Ha. When is Dreher not on vacation. He seems to be spending much time writing from abroad these days. Maybe he’s moved to the state of Denial too. I won’t begrudge him that.

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  5. Our daily dose of idiocy:

    Is “their going” something only issued to FBI agents?

    Is that strange “p” at the end a Freudian slip?


  6. While we’re all enjoying our daily dose of idiocy here with the President’s grammar gaffs (and they are legion) real news is still happening.

    In what should be headline news, the Senate is not so entirely comatose and utterly irresponsible as they have lately appeared. They have just passed a bipartisan bill to thwart Trump’s support of the troubled (and troubling) Chinese telecom giant ZTE. Good for the Senate! Let’s see how the House goes.

    The Senate moved to block President Trump’s deal to save Chinese telecommunications giant ZTE despite pushback from the White House.

    Senators passed an annual defense policy bill on Monday that included a provision keeping in place the penalties against ZTE despite a deal reached earlier this month by the Trump administration.

    In addition to keeping the Commerce Department penalties in place, the bill bans government agencies from buying or leasing telecommunications equipment and services from ZTE and Chinese telecom firm Huawei, as well as banning the government from providing loans to or subsidizing either company.

    The provision — spearheaded by Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) — sparked backlash from the White House, which is signaling it will try to remove it from the final bill.

    “The Administration will work with Congress to ensure the final NDAA conference report respects the separation of powers.” said Hogan Gidley, a deputy press secretary for the White House.

    GOP Sen. David Perdue (Ga.), a close ally of Trump’s, tried unsuccessfully to remove the provision last week, arguing that the current Senate bill “would trample on the separation of powers and undercut the Trump administration’s authority to impose these penalties.”

    The back-and-forth comes after the Trump administration announced earlier this month that it had reached a deal to lift penalties against the company in exchange for ZTE paying a $1 billion fine and embedding a U.S.-selected compliance team in the firm.

    But the deal rattled lawmakers on Capitol Hill, including otherwise close allies of Trump’s.

    “We’re heartened that both parties made it clear that protecting American jobs and national security must come first when making deals with countries like China, which has a history of having little regard for either. It is vital that our colleagues in the House keep this bipartisan provision in the bill as it heads towards a conference,” Cotton, Schumer, Rubio and Van Hollen said in a statement after the Senate’s vote.


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  7. I don’t know who this Dresher is, but if I were James Comey, I would take a long vacation in New Zealand, Maybe move some of my resources there.

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  8. And speaking of China, it looks like our on again off again trade war with China is definitely on. And I cannot help but think that the President’s ZTE gambit was a shot over the bow to China: ‘we can help you or we can hurt you’. Of course that is a saw that cuts both ways. China is well stocked with the surplus it has gained over the past 40 years of trade with the US. It’s time for a change.

    The White House said Monday evening that if China goes through with its promise to retaliate against the US tariffs announced last week, the United States will impose tariffs on an additional $200 billion worth of Chinese goods.

    “Further action must be taken to encourage China to change its unfair practices, open its market to United States goods, and accept a more balanced trade relationship with the United States,” Trump said in a statement. …



  9. A major difference, HRW, is that Chamerlain was really afraid. Trump is not—for whatever reason. If Kim doesn’t live up to expectation, Trump will flip on a dime–we know enough of his personality to know that. And I have not perceived any great elevation of Kim through Trump’s visit: he is still considered a brutal dictator. Obviously the world opinion leaders think Trump is playing with fire, but the fire has been burning for quite some time, and I don’t believe Trump’s actions have fueled it at all. We may have at least the possibility of some positive movement now that Kim can retreat while saving some face. Allowing Kim the possibility of a graceful retreat, however repugnant, is preferable to escalation, I think—as long as he does indeed retreat. We’ll have to wait and see how it plays out.


  10. Food for thought?

    Stupid thoughts maybe.

    No. See, I won’t even waste my time with a link that seeks to makes Nazi comparison’s right in the link. I’m sure it’s just more garbage, I’ll not waste my time even clicking. Save it for Ricky, that’s his thing now too. You two have fun with that.


  11. Now tell me, does this sound like the actions of men with nothing to hide?

    Mr. I Can’t Shut Up When a Camera’s Around suddenly develops laryngitis.


    “Fired FBI Director James B. Comey refused to appear before Congress on Monday to talk about his handling of the Clinton email investigation, and his fired deputy, Andrew McCabe, asserted his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination, Sen. Charles E. Grassley said.

    Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch also declined to show up for a major hearing where the Senate Judiciary Committee was looking into the inspector general’s report detailing major bungles in Mr. Comey’s handling of the Clinton investigation.

    Mr. Comey’s lawyer said he was out of the country — though Mr. Grassley, committee chairman, said he saw Mr. Comey was in Iowa over the weekend, visiting a key state in presidential campaigning.

    “He has time for book tours and television interview, but apparently no time to assist this committee,” Mr. Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said.”


  12. The Trump/Kim summit was just the start. The work goes on….. 🙂


    “A week after the Peace Summit in Singapore concluded, with President Donald Trump and North Korea’s Chairman Kim Jong Un signing a historic agreement to work toward de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula, a scan of Asian news outlets show that the two Koreas are moving toward forming a closer and friendlier relationship.
    As they did with the 2018 Winter Olympics, the two nations have agreed to send a joint team to this year’s Asian Games.

    The agreements on sports sector exchanges were made during inter-Korean talks at the truce village of Panmunjeom.

    Joint participation in the Asian Games this year was among the agreements in the Panmunjeom Declaration reached at the April 27 inter-Korean summit.

    According to the ministry, athletes from the two Koreas will march together at the opening and closing ceremonies of the Games under the “unification flag,” and Arirang, a Korean folk song, will be played instead of the national anthems of the North and the South when they enter. It will be the 11th joint entrance at an international sports event.

    The Koreas will also field joint teams for several events.

    In a move sure to please Kim, the Koreas will also hold an inter-Korean basketball competition in Pyongyang between July 3 and 6, and another in Seoul in the fall.

    Between Trump’s videos and athletics-based diplomacy, it seems like the peace process is moving quickly. In fact, a South Korean official indicates a formal end to the seven-decade-long conflict should be coming soon.

    South Korea aims to formally end the Korean War within this year but will be flexible on the specific timing and format, as the process requires consultations with Pyongyang and Washington, Seoul’s top diplomat said Monday.

    Speaking to reporters shortly after a telephone conversation with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Foreign Minister Kang Kyung-wha said the Trump administration is willing to declare a formal end to the 1950-53 conflict, which was agreed between the leaders of the two Koreas in April.

    “I think (we) need to produce a result through consultations with the U.S., and North Korea. But (South Korea) plans to handle the issue of timing and format with flexibility,” she said at a press conference.”


  13. I read the Globe and Mail piece. It’s like 3 paragraphs. To make a comparison with one of the most consequential diplomatic failures of the 20th century. Oooookay.


  14. AJ, you dismissed HRW’s link to quickly, and I encourage you to read it. The article does not make the kind Nazi comparison I think you think it does. The comparison is between Hitler and Kim, and between Trump and Chamberlain. The point is that Trump’s confidence in any deal he makes with Kim may be as unfounded as Chamberlain’s confidence in his 1938 deal with Hitler.

    Debra suggested a flaw in the comparison. You might find others.

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  15. I may read that article more unfavorably than you, Kevin B. What would you say is particularly “chilling” about Trump’s admitted overconfidence in the Kim talks?


  16. OK, I read it. Still not impressed. The comparisons are not even believable.

    First, See 1;44. Unlike with Hitler, progress is already being made toward peace. It’s not just words and a signed piece of paper.

    And this…..

    “This also has impacts on Canada. Any discussion that we have been having with the Americans on the issue of joining their anti-ballistic missile (ABM) system has just been dealt two severe blows. First, Mr. Trump has told us that there is no threat now – thanks to him – so why bother joining? Secondly, and more seriously, his recent trade actions against Canada – as he continues in his efforts to alienate all of his democratic allies – as well as his temper tantrum when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stood up to him, makes it very difficult for any such discussions to proceed.”

    See first off he hides his real complaint until second, and it’s economic and has nothing to do with NK. Secondly NK is not the only threat to the world so Canada would be stupid not to join ARM, but hey, it’s your butts, so whatever, I’m not gonna waste more time with the rest. Waste of time.

    Again doesn’t apply.


  17. Also, comparing Hitler to Kim is ridiculous. Kim doesn’t have the military resources for the type of large scale, multi front warfare that Hitler did. You’re comparing Howitzers to cap guns. There is no comparison at all in the threat Hitler posed compared to Kim. And as a result, any comparisons of Trump to Neville are equally ridiculous. The scales are not even close to equal, neither are the comparisons. It’s just weak..


  18. Solar, I don’t agree with all of it, I just thought AJ dismissed it without understanding what it was. I appreciate all the rebuttals.

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  19. This is why the illegal alien story is all the press wants to talk about. That way they don’t have to talk about this and how wrong they’ve been on all of it.

    And the actual obstruction of justice and oversight by the FBI continues with little mention.


    “The FBI has asked the Justice Department’s office of the inspector general to withhold from Congress the names of three bureau employees found to have exchanged anti-Trump text messages, including from one attorney who worked on the special counsel’s investigation.

    “We went to the FBI. The FBI raised a concern because they work on counterintelligence matters, and we are working with the committee to try and get the information you’ve asked for,” Michael Horowitz, the DOJ’s inspector general, testified to Congress on Tuesday.

    “So the FBI does not want their names released?” Texas Rep. Ted Poe asked Horowitz.

    “Correct,” the inspector general replied.”


  20. Another example of a promise kept, and doing the job Congress couldn’t because of McCain and company.

    Once again they posture and pose, Trump delivers.


    “Millions of small businesses and self-employed people will be able to buy health-insurance plans exempt from many Affordable Care Act consumer protections under a much-debated rule released Tuesday by the Trump administration.

    The rule is a far-reaching step by the administration to wield its regulatory powers to chisel away at the Obama-era health law. It was undertaken at the behest of President Donald Trump, who last year called for the change in an executive order.

    The rule makes it far easier for small businesses and self-employed individuals to band together and obtain “association health plans” for themselves and their employees. Many of the plans will be subject to the same rules as larger employers, which means they won’t have to provide comprehensive benefits, such as maternity services, prescription drugs, or mental health care, mandated under the ACA.

    That is expected to lead to lower prices for people who enroll. “You may be able to buy a policy that’s several thousand dollars cheaper,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.), said in an interview before the rule’s release. “This is the most promising proposal for quality insurance for self-employed people who might make $60,000 to $70,000 but get no subsidies.”

    Business groups such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Restaurant Association praised the move, saying it will give small employers the flexibility to cover workers at a lower cost. Democrats said it would drive up costs for people with pre-existing conditions and people who buy their own coverage on the individual market.”


  21. Ruh-roh.

    A good start, now fire him.


    “FBI agent Peter Strzok, who was revealed to have sent a text to his FBI lover saying he would ‘stop’ Trump, was marched out of the building Friday, following the release of an explosive Inspector General’s report.

    But Strzok is still on the job, CNN reported.

    He has been placed in the Human Resources department, following an IG report that revealed him to have made the statement about stopping Trump to his FBI lover, Lisa Page. “


  22. Sessions speaks the truth on the illegals fiasco.

    This also demonstrates the demagoguing and flat out lying from some parties. This is why the Nazi BS irritates me. It’s flat out false.


  23. HRW, Thanks for posting the Globe and Mail article. I just got home from work and had a chance to read it. There are many similarities between 1938 and 2018. Here are a few differences.

    1. North Korea is not the world power that Germany was in 1938, but it has nuclear weapons and Germany did not.
    2. I would hope that Kim’s territorial ambitions are more modest than those of Hitler at Munich.
    I doubt that Kim is the risk-taker Hitler was in 1938. Hitler’s threats in 1938 not only risked war, but also almost triggered a coup attempt against him by German generals afraid of another war.
    3. Chamberlain was naive and desperate to avoid another war after the horrors of World War I, but he was a serious man. Trump is profoundly and intentionally ignorant, unserious and naive and comically desperate to prove he is not just a ridiculous buffoon.
    4. Hitler was calling his own shots in 1938. North Korea is in many ways a client state of China which is likely using Kim to manipulate Trump for its own advantage.


  24. AJ @1:18. Ouch! I certainly wouldn’t want to be Comey facing this prosecutor. Our southern gentleman has a very pointed tongue.



  25. On the family separation issue, The Cult is somewhat in disarray:


  26. But as Sykes concluded:

    Like the White House, it has seemed at times that the only clear message coming from Trump’s media defenders is perhaps that there is no clear message at all.
    “I think one of the things Trump has discovered,” Sykes said, “is that … you don’t necessarily have to be coherent or truthful for people to support you.”


  27. Debra, As I have noted before, Gowdy is honorable, but not particularly bright. He looks smart when he is having to explain things to the clueless Nunes, but the Benghazi investigation showed he can quickly get out of his league. Comey, Mueller, Rosenstein, Wray and Schiff are very well educated and are Major Leaguers. Gowdy is a Double A player. Nunes is a ball boy. Trump is a beer vendor.


  28. Yeah, well I guess I’ll catch a ride with the beer vendor who is going my way as opposed to those major leaguers, who, while they look and talk slick, are never going to help me arrive at my destination. If the beer vendor proves too unstable to drive, I’ll catch a ride with someone else going in the right direction. So far the beer guy is getting us there. ;–)



  29. Comey, Rosenstein, Wray and Schiff all went to one of the top four law schools in the country. Mueller went to UVa which is #9. Gowdy went to #88. Nunes was an Ag Business major. Trump can’t spell “too” or “tap”.


  30. Lol. Going to one of the top law schools ensures they will lie skillfully, but it says as little about character as a Wharton degree. :–)


  31. Debra, Comey, Rosenstein , Mueller, Wray and Schiff have served many their country for many decades with very good records. They have shown high levels of honesty as well as intelligence. Trump has lied about money, sex, loans, net worth, crowd size, sexual assaults, fake universities, “tapps” and countless other topics to wives, business partners, reporters, lawyers in depositions, lenders, girlfriends, his staff and countless others. He created imaginary friends to lie to reporters for him. It is truly ridiculous and comical for any Trumpkin to ever attack any other person for supposedly lying about the dishonest imbecile.


  32. Peter Strzok has bigger problems than presidential tweets. It’s that pesky IG report that’s put him in the spotlight. That will prove hard towiggle out from under. Hope he has one of those lawyers from the top 4. He’s probably going to need the best liar he can afford.

    …and now, lest it become tedious, I am finished picking on lawyers…for the evening. :–)


  33. I’m at work and my line has been down awhile but is coming up shortly, so I’ll let the other cult members share …. [spinning clockwise,spinning counter clockwise, air guitar, secret handshake, —–there fellow cult members, take it home] :–)

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  34. Have a good evening, Debra. I’m going to read some history, and then see what they have come up with in the morning.


  35. I thought the parrallels between Chamberlain and Trump were interestjng. Both were naive, easily impressed and claimed they were bringing peace. Interestingly, there’s a real opportunity to press for real concessions and Trump is missing it.

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