This is what I’ve come to expect from the Left and Never-Trumpers. The left and their cowardly sources and for their cowardly anonymity, and you for buying it again because it’s what you want to believe is true. You folks never disappoint.
Keep trying, eventually something has to turn out to be true, right?
Very few people here in Trumpland care. Facts no longer matter. We are living in a post-factual country. People either support The Cult or they are opposed to The Cult or they try not to pay any attention to what is going on. It is very, very strange.
Ricky, the American system was set up so that the president is not intended to be all that important. If we don’t even hear his name for a few months at a time, that is quite all right. Politics is important, and so is functioning plumbing, but I don’t spend a lot of time thinking of either one.
Ricky, don’t believe everything you read. Especially in the Washington Post or other publications devoted to hating all things Trump. Mike Pence doesn’t seem to be having a problem with the President, and neither does Rex Tillerson, but you would never know that unless you actually listened to them and not some other source. The people trying to make mountains out of political mole hills are Trump’s political enemies–many of whom are, not coincidentally, also the enemies of traditional working people and the fair, bi-lateral trade agreements that traditionally produce stable employment.
The establishment really hates Trump and the “economic patriotism” his agenda represents. It scares them, and rightly so because it endangers their business models that absolutely require a materialistic population and an easily manipulated workforce. Early on, the Washington Post decided to hire extra reporters specifically to undermine Trump and his political agenda (which is seriously problematic for its owner, Jeff Bezos). And they’ve been stirring up real or imagined problems from the beginning.
The Values Voter Summit has had many kinds of speakers over the years. If they can listen with a straight face to a degenerate like Paul Ryan, who is inspired by and openly used his congressional office to push Ayn Randian, anti-Christ philosophy and ideas, they can certainly tolerate a Steve Bannon speaking out for more traditional taxation and trade.
Spotting some early attacks on Pence (many related to what life would be like under the Handmaid’s Tale), who some believe is the natural next GOP presidential nominee should Trump last 4 years and decide not to run again.
Ricky, option #3 of what? I’m an intelligent, well-read woman, but I’d be perfectly happy in a world where men had the household vote and women could concern themselves with more important things.
Debra, Come on now. You support a guy who confessed to multiple sexual assaults into a live mike, advocated adultery on the Howard Stern show, and appeared in two pornographic movies and you call Paul Ryan a “degenerate”. I have always considered you to be an ideological Trumpkin, but The Cult seems to be taking over.
They seek to turn what they view as Trump’s base, evangelicals, against him. And the Left believes Trump will be out of the way by the next election, by impeachment or boredom on his part, so Pence is the next target of the smear police masquerading as journalists and their anonymous sources. They’ve picked their next Boogie Man. Quite predictable really.
Ricky, you don’t have to read much of it to know that the writings of Ayn Rand are thoroughly anti-Christ and degenerate. There really is no other word for it. And Paul Ryan was not alone in being deeply inspired by her. Ryan came of age at the peak of ‘greed is good’ capitalism when Ayn Rand thinking ruled the Federal Reserve and the boardrooms across the country. He rode that wave to Congress—many people did, and yes, that’s degenerate. If he has personally repented then good, but I do not know that he has.
I don’t see Trump committing adultery or grabbing women now. And let’s not kid ourselves that all this manufactured outrage is really about Trump’s morality. I don’t believe that for a second. If he weren’t rocking the collective corporate boats with his agenda right now, Republicans wouldn’t care what he did 15, 20, 30 years ago. We know that because the last Republican we elected had been a drunken cokehead. We elected him twice.
Kim, “really” that I don’t think the POTUS is intended to be all that important to our daily lives, or “really” that I think the time spent to become a responsible voter is wildly disproportionate to how much my vote actually counts and how important it is in the scheme of things with which I could concern myself?
Oh, but I do agree the POTUS has very little to do with my everyday life and there are checks and balances to keep him from doing too much damage in 4-8 years. It’s the lifers who worry me most.
Debra, One of the interesting things about Weinstein and Trump is the consistency of their behavior. Both have victims who are now older who were assaulted decades ago. Both have middle aged victims. Both have young victims.
Weinstein needs to try The Trump Cult defense and argue that his enemies are actually the “degenerates” who have read Ayn Rand books.
Kim is correct.
The President doesn’t really run the country. The lifers (read “agencies:) do.
I heard recently that a university has appointed a director of “Inclusion” or some such.
What will happen is the director will need an assistant, then there will by office workers, then they need an agenda. Then there will be a department.
Then they will start making rules.
That’s the way government works. A need to clean up pollution is recognized.
A director and an agency is formed. What does an agency do?
They make regulations.
How long do they make regulations?
Forever. There is never no need for new regulations.
Equal opportunity, taking a knee, whatever. It’s the agenda.
Always the agenda.,
Go ahead and fantasize about the chocolate, Ricky. I think that’s as close as you’re going to get to the real thing—no matter what the polls are telling you now. I followed one of your links to a group of polls a couple of weeks ago. They were all predicting a Democratic win. They were also badly skewed by two very liberal polls that pushed the margin up to 10-13 pts instead of the 4-6 pts without the skew. That’s close to the usual margin of error for polls. The races are still competitive and I don’t think Dems will pull it off—so dream on. :–)
Debra, You are going to need to buy three pounds. The stuff is so good that we are always tempted to eat out of someone else’s box on the way home. It’s a little drive from Gatlinburg to Chattanooga, so I figure you will need to get that extra pound to keep from dipping into my box.
I have two clients that work at The Hard Eight. They were very pleased that their brisket was part of our bet.
Its not an either/or. Both Ryan and Trump could be considered anti Christ like. By supporting these men social conservatives are beginning to resemble the perfect mark for a con man. I don’t think the Democrats need disparage Pence’s character. Four years of being Trump’s side kick should leave him to sullied to run in 2020
Its not an either/or. Both Ryan and Trump could be considered anti Christ like. By supporting these men social conservatives are beginning to resemble the perfect mark for a con man. I don’t think the Democrats need disparage Pence’s character. Four years of being Trump’s side kick should leave him to sullied to run in 2020
No! No! Now even the socialists believe that reading Ayn Rand is as bad as a multi-decade record of sexual assault.
Let me suggest something radical: The healthcare system of Singapore is neither more or less Christian than that of Holland or the US. Ryan’s relatively conservative positions on economic issues are neither Christian or anti-Christian.
I’m not arguing against women being able to vote, just that I don’t think that opening the vote to anyone 18 and up has been a net gain for voters or for the country. With the privilege of the vote should come the responsibility of the vote. Personally, my life has more important elements to it, and I wouldn’t mind at all one vote per property-owning household, and overall women have had a dismal voting record. I’m not speaking out against women voting, I just wouldn’t sign a petition to gain the “right” if we didn’t have it (and women were not all that supportive, overall, of the idea when they didn’t have it).
I have a friend whose 18-year-old daughter dropped out of high school to go live with her boyfriend, coming back home pregnant. Why does being 18 automatically give her the right to vote? She doesn’t have even a high school education; she isn’t a home owner, a taxpayer, or anyone else with a real stake in the community. If she votes at all, she’ll be inclined to vote for those who give the most freebies.
So basically I’m simply not a big fan of all adult citizens of a community, with responsibility and ownership or not, being able to vote. How it all plays out I don’t much care, but I wouldn’t fight for my “right” to vote.
Wandering Views 
This doesn’t jive with Comey’s Senate testimony in June – surely he’ll have to return to Capitol Hill…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/16/comey-drafted-clinton-email-exoneration-letter-before-completing-interviews-fbi-confirms.html
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The “religious right” welcomes Bannon and converts to Trumpism:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-religious-right-carries-its-golden-calf-into-steve-bannons-battles/2017/10/16/53717dcc-b28c-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.1ca48a9d587f
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Meanwhile, their new idol mocks Christianity and the faith of Mike Pence.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/16/donald-trump-jokes-that-mike-pence-wants-to-hang-all-gay-people-laughing-yet/
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More anonymous sources Ricky?
Why am I not surprised?
This is what I’ve come to expect from the Left and Never-Trumpers. The left and their cowardly sources and for their cowardly anonymity, and you for buying it again because it’s what you want to believe is true. You folks never disappoint.
Keep trying, eventually something has to turn out to be true, right?
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AJ, Do you not believe that Trump mocks Pence or do you not believe that Bannon spoke to the Values Summit?
Do you still believe that Hillary killed Seth Rich?
Do you still think Trump was lying when he confessed to sexual assaults?
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I have to tell you, at this point no one in my community of feisty liberals cares.
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Very few people here in Trumpland care. Facts no longer matter. We are living in a post-factual country. People either support The Cult or they are opposed to The Cult or they try not to pay any attention to what is going on. It is very, very strange.
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Ricky, the American system was set up so that the president is not intended to be all that important. If we don’t even hear his name for a few months at a time, that is quite all right. Politics is important, and so is functioning plumbing, but I don’t spend a lot of time thinking of either one.
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Cheryl, So I would mark you down for Option #3.
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Ricky, don’t believe everything you read. Especially in the Washington Post or other publications devoted to hating all things Trump. Mike Pence doesn’t seem to be having a problem with the President, and neither does Rex Tillerson, but you would never know that unless you actually listened to them and not some other source. The people trying to make mountains out of political mole hills are Trump’s political enemies–many of whom are, not coincidentally, also the enemies of traditional working people and the fair, bi-lateral trade agreements that traditionally produce stable employment.
The establishment really hates Trump and the “economic patriotism” his agenda represents. It scares them, and rightly so because it endangers their business models that absolutely require a materialistic population and an easily manipulated workforce. Early on, the Washington Post decided to hire extra reporters specifically to undermine Trump and his political agenda (which is seriously problematic for its owner, Jeff Bezos). And they’ve been stirring up real or imagined problems from the beginning.
The Values Voter Summit has had many kinds of speakers over the years. If they can listen with a straight face to a degenerate like Paul Ryan, who is inspired by and openly used his congressional office to push Ayn Randian, anti-Christ philosophy and ideas, they can certainly tolerate a Steve Bannon speaking out for more traditional taxation and trade.
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Spotting some early attacks on Pence (many related to what life would be like under the Handmaid’s Tale), who some believe is the natural next GOP presidential nominee should Trump last 4 years and decide not to run again.
The beat goes on.
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Ricky, option #3 of what? I’m an intelligent, well-read woman, but I’d be perfectly happy in a world where men had the household vote and women could concern themselves with more important things.
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Debra, Come on now. You support a guy who confessed to multiple sexual assaults into a live mike, advocated adultery on the Howard Stern show, and appeared in two pornographic movies and you call Paul Ryan a “degenerate”. I have always considered you to be an ideological Trumpkin, but The Cult seems to be taking over.
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Exactly Debra.
They seek to turn what they view as Trump’s base, evangelicals, against him. And the Left believes Trump will be out of the way by the next election, by impeachment or boredom on his part, so Pence is the next target of the smear police masquerading as journalists and their anonymous sources. They’ve picked their next Boogie Man. Quite predictable really.
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Ah yes. There it is.
Name calling, a sure sign you’ve lost the argument, or didn’t really have one. 🙄
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We are having fun today. Ryan is a chior boy while Trump is Weinstein with a shave and a combover.
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Ricky, you don’t have to read much of it to know that the writings of Ayn Rand are thoroughly anti-Christ and degenerate. There really is no other word for it. And Paul Ryan was not alone in being deeply inspired by her. Ryan came of age at the peak of ‘greed is good’ capitalism when Ayn Rand thinking ruled the Federal Reserve and the boardrooms across the country. He rode that wave to Congress—many people did, and yes, that’s degenerate. If he has personally repented then good, but I do not know that he has.
I don’t see Trump committing adultery or grabbing women now. And let’s not kid ourselves that all this manufactured outrage is really about Trump’s morality. I don’t believe that for a second. If he weren’t rocking the collective corporate boats with his agenda right now, Republicans wouldn’t care what he did 15, 20, 30 years ago. We know that because the last Republican we elected had been a drunken cokehead. We elected him twice.
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Rocking the corporate boats with his agenda?
Wall Street is laughing as hard as the Russian and Chinese leaders at the daily idiocy.
Trump is trumpeting a corporate tax cut as a boon to the middle class. I’m not sure any other Republican could run that con as well as Trump.
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Really Cheryl?
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Kim, “really” that I don’t think the POTUS is intended to be all that important to our daily lives, or “really” that I think the time spent to become a responsible voter is wildly disproportionate to how much my vote actually counts and how important it is in the scheme of things with which I could concern myself?
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I wouldn’t give up my right to vote.
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Oh, but I do agree the POTUS has very little to do with my everyday life and there are checks and balances to keep him from doing too much damage in 4-8 years. It’s the lifers who worry me most.
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Debra, One of the interesting things about Weinstein and Trump is the consistency of their behavior. Both have victims who are now older who were assaulted decades ago. Both have middle aged victims. Both have young victims.
Weinstein needs to try The Trump Cult defense and argue that his enemies are actually the “degenerates” who have read Ayn Rand books.
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Kim is correct.
The President doesn’t really run the country. The lifers (read “agencies:) do.
I heard recently that a university has appointed a director of “Inclusion” or some such.
What will happen is the director will need an assistant, then there will by office workers, then they need an agenda. Then there will be a department.
Then they will start making rules.
That’s the way government works. A need to clean up pollution is recognized.
A director and an agency is formed. What does an agency do?
They make regulations.
How long do they make regulations?
Forever. There is never no need for new regulations.
Equal opportunity, taking a knee, whatever. It’s the agenda.
Always the agenda.,
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This is interesting:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/17/fox-news-poll-alabama-senate-race-all-tied-up.amp.html
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This has me thinking about white chocolate from Gatlinburg:
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/355789-poll-dems-lead-gop-by-14-points-in-generic-2018-ballot%3famp
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Go ahead and fantasize about the chocolate, Ricky. I think that’s as close as you’re going to get to the real thing—no matter what the polls are telling you now. I followed one of your links to a group of polls a couple of weeks ago. They were all predicting a Democratic win. They were also badly skewed by two very liberal polls that pushed the margin up to 10-13 pts instead of the 4-6 pts without the skew. That’s close to the usual margin of error for polls. The races are still competitive and I don’t think Dems will pull it off—so dream on. :–)
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Debra, You are going to need to buy three pounds. The stuff is so good that we are always tempted to eat out of someone else’s box on the way home. It’s a little drive from Gatlinburg to Chattanooga, so I figure you will need to get that extra pound to keep from dipping into my box.
I have two clients that work at The Hard Eight. They were very pleased that their brisket was part of our bet.
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Its not an either/or. Both Ryan and Trump could be considered anti Christ like. By supporting these men social conservatives are beginning to resemble the perfect mark for a con man. I don’t think the Democrats need disparage Pence’s character. Four years of being Trump’s side kick should leave him to sullied to run in 2020
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Its not an either/or. Both Ryan and Trump could be considered anti Christ like. By supporting these men social conservatives are beginning to resemble the perfect mark for a con man. I don’t think the Democrats need disparage Pence’s character. Four years of being Trump’s side kick should leave him to sullied to run in 2020
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This is a really good article about how Trump’s lies are ridiculously defended by The Cult resulting in a dumber America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/10/17/trumps-lie-about-obama-and-fallen-soldiers-shows-how-he-makes-america-dumber/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_na&utm_term=.fc5ad3ce3aaf
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No! No! Now even the socialists believe that reading Ayn Rand is as bad as a multi-decade record of sexual assault.
Let me suggest something radical: The healthcare system of Singapore is neither more or less Christian than that of Holland or the US. Ryan’s relatively conservative positions on economic issues are neither Christian or anti-Christian.
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The menfolk only could vote? Yikes. Yeah, I’m not sure I’d be on with that either, Cheryl. 🙂
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And not all men, just property owners. Alternatively, we could use Dad’s one question (algebra word problem) literacy test.
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I’m not arguing against women being able to vote, just that I don’t think that opening the vote to anyone 18 and up has been a net gain for voters or for the country. With the privilege of the vote should come the responsibility of the vote. Personally, my life has more important elements to it, and I wouldn’t mind at all one vote per property-owning household, and overall women have had a dismal voting record. I’m not speaking out against women voting, I just wouldn’t sign a petition to gain the “right” if we didn’t have it (and women were not all that supportive, overall, of the idea when they didn’t have it).
I have a friend whose 18-year-old daughter dropped out of high school to go live with her boyfriend, coming back home pregnant. Why does being 18 automatically give her the right to vote? She doesn’t have even a high school education; she isn’t a home owner, a taxpayer, or anyone else with a real stake in the community. If she votes at all, she’ll be inclined to vote for those who give the most freebies.
So basically I’m simply not a big fan of all adult citizens of a community, with responsibility and ownership or not, being able to vote. How it all plays out I don’t much care, but I wouldn’t fight for my “right” to vote.
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It’s democracy 🙂
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Yeah, well we’re supposed to be a republic.
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Yes, I knew someone would write that 🙂
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democracy being, in my earlier remark, of the small ‘d’ generic/philisophical/overarching concept
Maybe the menfolk can weigh in on this, though.
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