20 thoughts on “News/Politics 7-17-17

  1. In other news that’s being ignored because the media is obsessed with Trump……


    “The American press obsession with Russia is leaving vital news on the cutting room floor.

    For example, Judicial Watch is reporting that the state auditor of Mississippi is demanding that Virginia Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe’s former company, GreenTech, repay millions in public money because the electric vehicle company shut down and failed to deliver on its promises to create new jobs.

    The government watchdog group also notes that most elite media outlets are not covering another green energy failure, especially as it involves a leading Democratic politician.

    An electric car company that folded after taking millions of taxpayer dollars was founded by Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign and former Democratic National Committee (DNC) chair, but the mainstream media is ignoring this pertinent fact. The Mississippi-based company, GreenTech, shut down in January but is back in the spotlight because this week the state’s auditor demanded the firm repay $6.4 million in public funds. Only a small Richmond, Virginia newspaper prominently reported McAuliffe’s ties to the scandal, stating in the headline that “Mississippi auditor demands $6.4M repayment from McAuliffe’s former electric car company.”

    …[A]s GreenTech founder, McAuliffe brokered the deal in which the company got millions in public funds by promising to invest $60 million locally and creating hundreds of new full-time jobs. That never happened and instead taxpayers got fleeced. Now Mississippi State Auditor Stacey Pickering is ordering that the money be repaid with interest and investigative costs. The exact figure is $6,360,019.60.

    Digging deeper into the story, one can clearly see that the the vaunted “green energy jobs” did not live up to the promises weaved by the Democrats under the last administration. Furthermore, a Mississippi state auditor is having a difficult time determining if the firm lived up to the terms of its loan.”


  2. It’s all about priorities.

    San Francisco Can’t Stop Illegal Aliens, But By God They Can Keep Chocolate Milk Out Of Schools


    “The City by the Bay is finally coming to grips with the major problems stalking their streets. No, it’s not the illegal aliens who are shooting their residents after being evicted from the country multiple times. (Don’t be silly.) They’ve discovered that some of the students in the local schools are actually drinking chocolate milk with their lunch. Ladies and gentlemen… (yes, and all of you “others” on the gender ambidextrous list) this calls for immediate action.”

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  3. Another perspective on the “cult” issue:


    These articles have caused me to rethink my own position and reach the following conclusions:

    1. There are those who I would call “ideological Trumpkins”. They really support Trump’s message of protectionism, crackdown on illegal and legal immigration, no entitlement reform and huge amounts of infrastructure spending. Debra is our best example off this, although others partially fit in this category. These folks may have come to this point out of desperation, as Debra freely admits. They see their enemy as “globalists”. Unlike true Trump cultists, they will admit when Trump errs.

    2. I have a friend who is a true Trump cultist. He is not particularly ideological, but was a Democrat previously. From the beginning, he supported everything Trump said or did. He will never admit that Trump lies or distorts. In the primaries, one would think my friend was a liberal atheist as he attacked “Bible Thumpers” and “Far right Republicans” like Cruz and Rubio. For the last year he has been attacking the Democrats and basically parrots everything Fox, Breitbart, Rush or Levin say in defense of Trump.

    3. Solar Pancake and I are basically conservative idealists. Our commitment is not to a party or a man, but to principles. I really liked Reagan, but I was very angry at him on the day he selected Big Bush as his VP, and was disappointed at his appointment of O’Connor and Kennedy. We can be Quixotic. We will support conservative policies that stand no chance of adoption, and are hard on Republicans we view as heretics.

    4. Most of you may have some traits that fit in the above categories, but you are really “tribalists”. The Republican Party is your tribe. You will vote for Republicans because you believe Democrats are worse. You are disgusted by Democrats, our dominant culture, the mainstream media and our educational establishment. You see Trump as flawed, but he is the leader of your tribe so you will generally support him.

    5. There are those who are so completely disgusted and appalled by the entire situation that they try to ignore it whenever possible. DJ is our best example of this, though Jonah Goldberg is another. He has taken to filling up Twitter with pictures of his dogs.

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  4. I love Jonah’s dogs. 🙂

    From the State of Denial, DJ

    But speaking of the pope, I had to laugh yesterday — one of our regulars at the dog park is the wife of a U.S. diplomat who spends much of his time in Italy (which is where he is now). The couple, I believe, are conservative, old-guard Catholics and the look that briefly passes across her face (she’s married to a diplomat, after all) when the pope is mentioned is priceless.

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  5. The resistance that cried wolf.


    “And you know what? Trump’s supporters are not wrong to urge us all to truly examine historical precedents. Because all too often, Trump’s fiercest critics declare his every utterance and action unprecedented without bothering to thoughtfully consider the precedents.

    Now, when “whataboutism” is used to defend the indefensible, it is obviously wrong. But not every historical comparison can be dismissed as simple “whataboutism.” And there are good reasons why “What about … ” questions have so frequently been raised under this president. The case against Trump is not simply that he does things that are wrong or bad, but that he is bad in ways that are unprecedented and represent a sharp break from important political norms.

    If we are going to chastise Trump for norm violations, shouldn’t we first establish how normal or abnormal his actions in a given area really are? If we are going to say he is guilty of doing the unprecedented, shouldn’t we look to see if there are in fact any precedents?

    These “what about” questions also impose some accountability on Trump critics. When asked in good faith, they can be used to determine consistency and avoid double standards.”

    “The criticism some of us have of those who are obsessively anti-Trump isn’t that they are necessarily wrong about the president. I personally share many of their harsh assessments, especially of his fixation on petty feuds at a time of international peril, not to mention his overall temperament.

    Yet they can also be almost naive in their evaluations of politicians and government pre-Trump, blind to how the governing class’ failures and character flaws made this presidency possible in the first place. Indeed, they often risk becoming the resistance that cried wolf.”

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  6. Never been a fan of Snopes. I think they tend to be very one-sided, but if they keep this up, they may be able to repair the self-inflicted damage they’ve done to their reputation.


    “Broadly speaking, most of the falsehoods levelled against Trump fall into one or more of four categories, each of them drawing from and feeding into four public personas inhabited by the President.

    They are:

    Donald Trump: International Embarrassment
    Trump the Tyrant
    Donald Trump: Bully baby
    Trump the Buffoon.

    Some of these claims are downright fake, entirely fabricated by unreliable or dubious web sites and presented as satire, or otherwise blatantly false. But the rest — some of which have gained significant traction and credibility from otherwise serious people and organizations — provide a fascinating insight into the tactics and preoccupations of the broad anti-Trump movement known as “the Resistance,” whether they were created by critics of the President or merely shared by them.

    Generally speaking, we discovered that they are characterized and driven by four types of errors of thought:

    A lack of historical context or awareness
    Cherry-picking of evidence (especially visual evidence)
    A failure to adhere to Occam’s Razor — the common-sense understanding that the simplest explanation for an event or behavior is the most likely.

    Infused throughout almost all these claims, behind their successful dissemination, is confirmation bias: the fuel that drives the spread of all propaganda and false or misleading claims among otherwise sensible and skeptical people. Confirmation bias is the tendency to look for, find, remember and share information that confirms the beliefs we already have, and the tendency to dismiss, ignore and forget information that contradicts those beliefs. It is one of the keys to why clever people, on all sides of every disagreement, sometimes believe stupid things that aren’t true.””


  7. I’ve always found Snopes very useful for questions like “Is there really a boy in England dying of brain cancer who wants to get as many get-well cards as possible?”. I never look at it for interpretation of political affairs.

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  8. A very dangerous joke, if you’re the butt of it.


    “I have a confession to make: I’m a hater lurking at a convention of haters. Our thoughtcrimes are clear and inexcusable. I’m at a meeting of Christians who believe the Bible is true, who believe that mankind is fallen and in need of a Savior, and who believe that we should live according to certain moral rules — including rules that govern sexual conduct. We believe that we should have the basic liberty to live according to that faith, and we also believe that other human beings should be able to live according to the different dictates of their consciences, so long as we all respect each other’s fundamental rights. To make matters even worse, I used to work for this hate group. I was a senior counsel, supervising a whole platoon of hateful litigators.

    This may come as a shock to some readers, but there are apparently millions upon million of people like us in these United States. There are even — imagine this! — elected officials who share these vile beliefs. We tend to gather together once per week, we form groups that advocate for life and liberty, and we sometimes even attend conventions where we discuss legal and cultural trends. Fortunately, however, the mainstream media is on the case, ready to blow the lid off our secret covens of corruption.”

    “In fact, throughout the summit, the speakers and attendees advocated basic Christian principles. Bless those who persecute you. Love your ideological foes. Fight for the rights of others that you’d like to exercise yourself.

    In other words, it was just like your basic Klan rally in rural Alabama, circa 1954.

    Let’s be clear. The Southern Poverty Law Center, the “civil rights watchdog group” that ABC and NBC so prominently cite, has become a dangerous joke. It’s a joke because the very idea that Christians are members of a “hate group” merely because they advocate for orthodox Christian principles and the liberty to live those principles is so intellectually and ideologically bankrupt that it’s barely worth addressing.

    Indeed, I’d encourage you to read the SPLC’s information page on the Alliance Defending Freedom. It consists of a collection of quotes where ADF attorneys explain the implications of an unrestrained sexual revolution on religious liberty, and it details how ADF files cases to protect the First Amendment rights of its clients. That’s it. No violence. No hate. Mere Christianity.”

    Oh, the horror…. 🙄

    It’s obvious who the haters really are.


  9. It’s a miracle!

    Or not. Maybe it’s just the obvious consequences of insisting that laws be followed, and ensuring that they are.


    “When the new broom sweeps clean you just never know what it will turn up. In the case of illegal immigration, we’ve learned that simply having a new boss in charge with some serious immigration enforcement policies can influence the decisions being made by illegal aliens thinking of trying to enter the United States. The Washington Examiner reports that one leader of the Border Patrol is sounding pretty much over the moon at this point, describing the decline in illegal border jumpers as a miracle.

    The significant downturn in the number of illegal border crossers between the U.S. and Mexico is “nothing short of miraculous,” National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd said on C-SPAN Monday.

    “As far as the Trump administration’s efforts on immigration, this is something they campaigned heavily on,” he said. “At six months, where we are on meeting those promises, we are seeing nothing short of miraculous. If you look at the rhetoric that President Trump has given, it has caused a number of illegal border crossings to go down. We have never seen such a drop that we currently have.”

    “There’s a vibe, there’s an energy in the Border Patrol that’s never been there before in 20 years that I’ve been in the patrol,” Judd added in a separate Fox News interview.
    How big has the drop been? The number of reported crossings was already down in the spring but the Border Patrol estimates that it’s now been cut nearly in half, registering only 53% as many crossings as in the same period last year. And here’s one thing to keep in mind while you ponder that number…

    We’ve reduced it that much before a single foot of new wall has been installed.”


  10. I believe Debra and I agree that this is a debate that needs to take place. This was kind of a rough start. Nevertheless, Trump (in the campaign) and now Carlson have challenged Neo-Conservative orthodoxy. It is unfortunate that some alt-right types are praising Carlson. We need to be able to debate our future foreign policy without any reference Zionism or anti-Semitism.


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  11. Does praying for the President border on heresy?

    Depends who you ask I guess.


    “Religious leaders gathered in the Oval Office laid hands on President Donald Trump to pray that God gives him guidance, wisdom and protection.

    A photo of the gathering made the rounds on social media but didn’t sit well with the Rev. William Barber II, president of the North Carolina NAACP.

    On MSNBC’s “AM Joy” on Saturday morning, Barber called the prayer “theological malpractice bordering on heresy.”

    “It is a form of theological malpractice that borders on heresy when you can p-r-a-y for a president and others when they are p-r-e-y, preying on the most vulnerable,” Barber said. “You’re violating the most sacred principles of religion.””

    Barber’s comments set the North Carolina Republican Party ablaze.

    In a news release on Sunday, the party said it was “shocked and outraged” over Barber’s “claim that it’s a sin to pray for President Trump.””


  12. It’s dead.

    And yet another failure from Congressional Republicans..


    “The latest GOP effort to repeal and replace “Obamacare” was fatally wounded in the Senate Monday night when two more Republican senators announced their opposition to legislation strongly backed by President Donald Trump.
    The announcements from Sens. Mike Lee of Utah and Jerry Moran of Kansas left the Republican Party’s long-promised efforts to get rid of President Barack Obama’s health care legislation reeling. Next steps, if any, were not immediately clear.
    Lee and Moran both said they could not support Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s legislation in its current form. They joined GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Rand Paul of Kentucky, both of whom announced their opposition right after McConnell released the bill last Thursday.”


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