70 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 5-24-17

  1. Morning all. Twelve days of school left and it is a busy time. This Friday is the Banquet for the Juniors and Seniors. We all go watch them arrive. Rumor has it that some girls are coming on horseback this year. I have seen them arrive by helicopter and, last year, by backhoe with a couch in the bucket holding four of them.
    Always lots of fun.
    Back to busily downloading things to use later.

    Liked by 2 people

  2. Good Morning…it’s gonna be a long day…have been up since 2…too much swirling around in my head to be able to sleep….
    I miss Chas….and that photo up there is so cute…leaves me wondering where Fluffy is lurking…
    Breakfast with friends this morning…we shall watch the Thunderbirds flyover after the graduation ceremony at the Air Force Academy…the sky is predicted to be clear and sunshine abounding…a beautiful day indeed!

    Liked by 4 people

  3. Peter, what do you mean, “the calendar says otherwise”? It doesn’t say you’re a day older? In any case, happy big birthday!

    I saw last night they’re doing another Jeopardy! online test already 5/30-6/1. Don’t forget to sign up.

    Liked by 2 people

  4. Happy Birthday Peter. I hope it is the best yet.
    We do seem to be sort of lost without Chas. I hope he knows how much we all depend on his and appreciate him.

    Liked by 5 people

  5. A Happy Birthday/Bonne Anniversaire to Peter.
    I’ve been busy. The weekend with my family went well. We went to a celebration of my great uncle’s ninetieth birthday. He has the onset of dementia, so it was nice to spend some time with him while he is still able to recognize us. A few of my more rarely seen cousins put in an appearance, which was nice. My mother and I had some quality time. She has been so preoccupied the last few times I’ve been able to visit. We were all still processing what has happened over the past few months, so it was nice to just be together.
    Now, I’ve received word that the horde – eldest sibling and family – is about to invade. They hope to stop by and see me while making their way to my parents’ place. My mother was feeling sad that they could not come while circumstances were what they were, so she will be glad to see them.

    Liked by 6 people

  6. Happy Birthday Peter!

    Didn’t Michelle have a Neptune? No more needs to be said. πŸ™‚

    Pair I’m looking at are Maytag Bravos and they do get very good ratings both from customers who have had them and from the one consumer site I checked with that said it was one of the best ‘deals’ price-wise for washer/dryer sets during Memorial Day sales this year. And so far nothing else is smaller, most everything else is bigger (found one smaller washer but I’d never heard of the brand and customer ratings gave it one our of five stars). The space limitations loom large for anything I can buy.

    I’m up early with the new routine sans a backyard — walked the dogs a few blocks, will feed them in a bit and then I’ll drop them off at “doggie day care/day camp.” But after this will try to see how they do locked in all day while I’m gone, I’ll have to feed them early and then walk them right before I leave for work. I think they’ll be Ok. But after today at least we’ll also be officially registered with the Petsmart day care (which is near where I work) so I can always leave them there in a pinch. I’m guessing this fence won’t be done for another week and a half, based on what the fencers told me so far. I don’t think it’ll be a daily job for them, unfortunately, they’ll pop back when they can (now not until Sunday, from the sounds of it), which is not a great plan from my perspective obviously, but we’ll manage.

    And I’ll be grateful to be getting a nice new redwood fence on such short notice. One more thing I won’t have to worry about going forward with the house.

    Liked by 2 people

  7. Happy birthday, Peter!

    That cat video looks all cute and affectionate and all that, but what it really proves is cats have no boundaries: “This leg is mine, that fur is mine . . .”

    Liked by 2 people

  8. H A P P Y BI R T H D A Y
    🎡🎢🎡P E T E R🎡🎢🎡
    And the best present is…
    End of the school yearπŸ“š
    πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―πŸ•―
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ●■●■●■●■●■●■
    β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹β—‹ β—‹
    ●■●■●■●■●■●■
    🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦
    RockyRoadIceCreamCake

    Liked by 4 people

  9. I went to a new small group women’s Bible study group last night. I have needed something like this. We are using Woman of God by Cindy Bunch.
    Has anyone done the Lifeguide Bible Studies by IVP? It is new to me.

    Like

  10. Plan B — Doggie day care doesn’t accept vaccine titers (which my dogs get) so it’s back to just locking them in for the day. Will walk them right before I leave, it should be OK. If not, I’ll just have an added mess to clean up when I get home.

    Mumsee, a sink & washboard is beginning to sound just fine. I still have the issue about what caused Sunday night’s ‘flood’ — the washer or a water line issue? I really should probably call in a plumber to check that out. Oy. Everything seems to happen all at once.

    Like

  11. Interesting article roscuro. A son of one of our associate pastors was in that position several years ago but I believe it was his father, not our elders per se, who insisted that the son confess and apologize at a very brief members’ meeting following the church service one Sunday. Most of those I knew at the time in the church felt embarrassed and rather wished we didn’t know, we felt like it wasn’t any of our business. To our credit (at least in my circle), it was never mentioned afterward beyond that. The couple married and now have 2 children. But I’m not sure anything was gained by that process, looking back on it now.

    I still cringe whenever I think about it. I felt bad for the son and for his girlfriend whom I don’t believe was there. And his dad is so sweet and gentle, I suppose it all rather stunned me at the time, I’d never witnessed anything like that before (or since, thankfully). I would think meeting with the elders would be more than sufficient, the entire church wouldn’t necessarily have to “know” (although it may be that there had been ‘rumors,’ though I never heard any — but maybe among the youth group members, I don’t know).

    Liked by 1 person

  12. Ooh. Rocky road ice cream at the bottom of the cake. Not sure what’s in the middle, though. Looks like black squares and hollow circles on Chrome. But since mumsee didn’t make it, it’s probably not habanero peppers or the like.

    Liked by 3 people

  13. DJ, what makes it more egregious is that when church leaders sin, the sins are often swept under the carpet for years. It seems that only the weakest members are the ones made to make public confessions. I have read of two particularly horrifying incidents where a young teenage girl who was raped by a much older and married man who was prominent in the church/Christian organization was made to publicly confess to engaging in an affair with her rapist. Both incidents are well documented, and the one was part of an extensive investigation in the organization in which it occurred, so I know it isn’t just rumour. I would say that Scripture does indicate that church leaders who sin are to be publicly rebuked (I Timothy 5:19-20), but as the blog post notes, public confessions are not generally prescribed. The Church has it backwards.

    Liked by 2 people

  14. Wow. I thought I had “seen it all” from YF, especially after her recent comments on a post of mine, in which she adamantly argued against freedom of speech for those she feels have dangerous ideologies.

    Today, she quoted Paul Ryan’s reference to the “innocent children” killed in the Manchester terror attack. She then went on to say that his use of that phrase shows that he believes there are children who are not innocent (like LGBT youth) & thus would deserve to be killed. Never mind that people use the term “innocent children” all the time for children in general.

    Liked by 1 person

  15. I think that it gets tricky when pregnancy is involved–because the sin will soon be obvious, and it won’t necessarily be clear whether the sin is ongoing, whether it has been repented, etc. You definitely don’t want to see it celebrated. In my Chicago church, a 15-year-old ran away from home and lived on the streets for a few months. When she returned home, she was several months pregnant, and her mother walked around the church glowing and announcing to everyone, “I’m going to be a grandmother again!” The girl’s younger sister, who made it to her wedding day a virgin, was more or less cast aside by the mom.

    How do we truly welcome the “prodigal” and her baby, but without making it appear that we are celebrating sin? I think one way is by acknowledging that there has been sin, and has been true repentance, and now we are accepting and loving this new baby.

    In my Chicago church (in an inner-city neighborhood), out-of-wedlock pregnancies were so common that at times I really felt torn. I knew biblical standards and had no desire to depart from them, and I also knew these young women were entering a hard life . . . but I yearned for a baby, and there were times it was hard to see yet one more young woman being praised for her beautiful baby while there was no support at all for those who were single and choosing chastity.

    Like

  16. Cheryl – I understand. There’ve been a couple times in my church that unmarried ladies had babies, & everyone was offering them congratulations, but I felt uncomfortable doing so. On the other hand, a new life coming into the world is a beautiful thing, even if the circumstances are not. I think I ended up saying something like “God bless this little baby,” or something like that.

    As you know, we welcomed a baby born out of wedlock into our family. I hate the circumstances of Little Guy’s conception & birth, but he has been such a blessing to all of us. There are times when Mr X has harassed Nightingale, or all of us, & I have started to wish she never brought him into her life or ours. Then I realize there would be no Little Guy then, & I cannot bring myself to finish the thought.

    Liked by 3 people

  17. I was unable to get internet at Plantation Resort in Surfside Beach. Strange because I had no trouble before. They couldn’t fix it.
    We returned early.
    I’ll explain later I have over 180 e-mails. Mostly junk, I’m certain.

    Liked by 3 people

  18. Well, that’s one thing I will say about our church’s singular episode, the boy took full responsibility, the girl was not even present from what I remember.

    Welcome back Chas, you were missed. Now you’ll have to scan all the weekend threads where we may have talked about you.

    Ok, found another Maytag after seeing my original “Bravo” pair wasn’t so well liked on another consumer site. These aren’t as pretty, but they seem to have pretty solidly good reviews (though dryer is a bit too deep, of course — 28″).

    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Maytag-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-White-While-Supplies-Last/50382486

    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Maytag-7-cu-ft-Gas-Dryer-White/50380194

    Like

  19. Thanx Karen. We were supposed to be there for a week. But she wasn’t enjoying herself. Some of the things she liked to do became a burden and we always left early.
    I’ve said before, when you reach eighty, or there about, all change is bad,. Except for those that happen to the children, etc.
    This is likely our last trip anywhere. She just doesn’t enjoy going.
    And her older sister is getting that way too. She came down with her daughter (who is 65) and daughter’s friend.
    I decided the leave last evening and here we are.

    I was gone five days, counting Sunday and I have ten solicitations from organizations who want money. Not counting legitimate bills.

    So. Another milestone in our lives. No more vacationt trips. Anywhere.

    Liked by 3 people

  20. Chas, that is where my dad is now. My stepmom is comfortable at home. He loves her and he is dedicated to taking care of her. They don’t go anywhere. Once in a while, daughter can take her to get her hair done and my brother takes my dad up onto the mountain. That is it. You are right, another milestone. Enjoy her while you can. But allow other folk to help you out as they can. We continue to lift you up to the Lord and you continue to lift us up to a higher standard of love.

    Liked by 8 people

  21. Thanks Mumsee, seems we arrived here all of a sudden.
    But it’s good that we moved to Greensboro. We didn’t want to, but it was wise.
    Chuck and Linda are lots of help. Especially Linda.

    Liked by 7 people

  22. No place like home. Absolutely no place. She has her feet propped up on th Lazy Boy because they were swelling.

    One of the solicitations I got is from Amnesty International. They want me to send money and send a survey to Trump to allow refugees in.
    Can’t do it. I feel for the situation, but we can’t open our borders to everyone. The problem has to be solved there, not here.
    If permitted, they will create a similar problem here.

    Like

  23. DJ, Call a surveyor and ask them how much they will charge to “pin the corners” for a new fence.
    Let me check something and I will be right back

    Like

  24. OK. LA County wants to charge me $100 for access to tax records and LA County GIS says I need a plug in in order to access the parcel maps but won’t tell me the plug in I need. Did you have a survey done when you purchased the house? Look in your files and see if you have one.
    I am in a bad mood today so I think it would be hysterical if she quibbles with you over the property line and it ends up in your favor…but I am just mean like that.

    Liked by 3 people

  25. This is from the computer that couldn’t get on-line at Plantation Resort. They said it was my computer. But it never happened there befoee.

    Liked by 1 person

  26. I think she says she may have a report of some kind, honestly she talked a mile a minute when I stopped in last night — she was very nice but the fact that she kept hammering on the property line, whether or not this was a “shared” fence — I didn’t know if she was thinking she might be asked to pay for part of it or what. There’s a white picket fence right behind the tall redwood fence being taken down and she says that’s “definitely” “100%” on her property and she doesn’t want that moved or taken so I called the fence guy to make sure he left that in place.

    Since I was replacing a fence in exactly the same place where it had been I didn’t think there would be a problem. If I were moving it, sure — but I’m not.

    I don’t remember any kind of survey being done when I moved in or purchased the house 20 years ago.

    Like

  27. I sent her some photos of the fence on *my* side before it was taken down and said she’s welcome to come look at it all from my backyard when I get home from work some evening.

    Like

  28. Get a survey. You don’t want to run into problems. The house was built in 1923 that is almost a hundred years for property lines to shift. We have an older neighborhood here that almost all the yards are fenced and any agent worth anything insists on a survey even if they have to pay it out of their commission.
    Don’t tell her you are getting the survey. Just get it.

    Like

  29. OK, trying to find where the surveys are ordered, this is something where someone actually comes out? LA is always so backed up that could take a while and I really can’t live that long without a fence — or is there a map on file that will be easy to order?

    Like

  30. Call a private surveyor and pay for it. Explain the situation to them and fall on their mercy…you just thought you would be replacing the fence that is already there and now the neighbor is getting squirrel-ly on you and questioning the property line, etc.

    Like

  31. So I guess she says I should have one with initial paperwork and title report, but finding that right now after all the upheaval in my house will not be quick or easy.

    Like

  32. She’s trying to find someone for me. I know if I go through the city it would take probably forever and a day. It already is sounding like it might take some time …

    Like

  33. Who? Me or someone else you know? Because I have a message in to a friend for a recommendation on a surveyor, but if someone else is helping you let them because they are local.

    Like

  34. Kim, I don’t think anyone should be “shamed” for confessed sin . . . someone who refuses to leave their sin, for sure, they might need to be excommunicated. But no one should be shamed for sin they are confessing, and not all sin needs to be made public. But a sin that will become known publicly, because of a pregnancy, or the news hitting the papers, etc., shouldn’t be ignored. For sure if the man is part of the same community, the man should be included. If in fact he was an aggressor and she was unwilling, he may need to be the one to confess, simply because the “shame” will otherwise naturally fall on her.

    A couple who is choosing to marry may have no need for anything approaching public confession. People may do the math, but they can also see they are choosing marriage and rejecting extramarital sex.

    But proclaiming sin far and wide, choosing to deal only with the woman (for example, allowing the child’s father to graduate but not the mother), or refusing to forgive–all of those are evils at least as grave as the original sin.

    Like

  35. There may be neighborly resolution.

    Plumber coming tomorrow to see about that washer leak, whether there is something in the water line that needs to be cleared.

    Way too much going on again.

    Like

  36. I see the discussion on the link continued while I was at class. Cheryl, I would say that you are confusing the issue. The sin is having sex outside of marriage. It is true that pregnancy, with one exception, does not occur without intercourse (leaving aside the technical questions of artificial insemination and IVF). However, pregnancy, in and of itself is never sin. If pregnancy outside of marriage was sin, than Mary the mother of Jesus would have been sinning. The woman may choose to have sex outside of marriage. She does not choose to become pregnant. That is something God claims absolute control over. A married woman may engage in lawful intercourse and may or may not become pregnant. An unmarried woman may engage in unlawful intercourse and may or may not become pregnant. In your reflection about how it seemed unfair that the unwed mother received more acclaim than the chaste single woman, I think you forgot two things. One, the mother is being congratulated for the life which God has chosen to grow in her womb, not that she had sex outside of marriage. How she became pregnant is not relevant to the welcome such a new life should have. The other is that for every unwed mother, many other single women were being unchaste without becoming pregnant. Why should only the pregnant unwed woman receive censure?

    In the case I mentioned of the young girl who was made to confess to adultery with her rapist to a Christian organization, it was later revealed that her rapist had a long history of getting girls in trouble. When he was in Bible school, more than one girl was expelled for getting into a relationship with him, but he always managed to avoid punishment, and was eventually sent to the mission field, where he abused more than one young girl. It has often been pointed out that the scene where the woman caught in adultery was brought before Jesus, the Pharisees technically violated the law of Moses, which called for both the man and woman caught in adultery to be brought for judgement. Ironic, isn’t it, that the Church which claims to follow Christ acts more like the Pharisees who opposed him?

    Like

  37. Well, it’s been a quiet birthday. I kind of like it that way. No one at school said anything. Of course, there were no students there and I only saw a few of the teachers. All of my children either texted or called. Even the four grandchildren who can talk greeted me when their mother called.

    Mrs L and I shared store bought brownies and ice cream. Double chocolate brownies and triple chocolate ice cream go well together. She put a candle in one of them and tried to sing Happy Birthday. She’s not a singer, and her voice is crackly because of a cold, but she tried.

    Liked by 5 people

  38. Roscuro, all that you said is obviously true, and I’m not sure I disagree with any of it, so I’m not sure what you’re actually saying. I’m not saying that pregnancy is sin (obviously!), but neither do I think that pregnancy outside of wedlock is cause for “Congratulations!” The birth of the baby, yes. Not the pregnancy.

    My point was more the public nature of the sin. I would say that if a couple heading for marriage have stumbled and engaged in sexual sin, they really should tell someone and seek accountability–their pastor, a parent, a wise older sister, but someone who won’t hold the sin over their heads forever but will help them with accountability. Without pregnancy, the sin is still “private.” Pregnancy makes it impossible to keep it private.

    For a different example, let’s say some member of your church steals from his employer. He either confesses or is caught, but either way he repents, agrees to some form of restitution, and his boss chooses not to press charges. There is no need for the sin to go beyond a small circle of people–his pastor needs to know, he needs to confess to his parents (if he is a minor) or his wife (if he is a married man), but not necessarily to the church, unless it involves church funds. However, if the man is arrested and it hits the paper, it is now public information, and it now becomes necessary to reassure the church (and/or other groups of people affected) that the sin has been confessed, forgiven, and dealt with.

    Otherwise it simply will never be clear “Is this person still a church member in good standing?” People will hesitate, for example, to ask the person to substitute in the nursery or will feel awkward if the subject of theft, or fornication, or drunkenness comes up–is this a current struggle for the person? Has she repented and turned from it, and is now free to participate in the Lord’s supper? Would the person himself wish you to use caution around him, such as not having him over for a meal in which you serve alcohol? Would it be foolish–and embarrassing–to publicly nominate him to be the church’s treasurer when everyone who was in the community three years ago knows that he made the front page of the paper for stealing from his employer? Has his wife forgiven him for adultery, or are they separated and attempting to work the matter through, or are they headed for divorce?

    The church doesn’t necessarily need to know all of this . . . but the public recognition of repentance (or its lack) needs to be known as widely as the public knowledge of sin–or, in some cases, the community just needs to know that it has been handled and they need not know details. Otherwise, people are left guessing as to the status of the offense and the sinner is left unrestored.

    Like

  39. Roscuro, in rereading your reply to me, I see the difference is that you are assuming I am saying she should receive “censure,” and I am in fact saying that if she is repentant she should receive “restoration.” You don’t, for example, ignore the sin and throw a baby shower–that looks like celebrating the sin. (And surely you caught that in speaking of my own 20-something emotions I wasn’t saying that we should reject the baby, but rather that it was hard enough seeing people around me marry and have babies, but it was really and truly hard to see single people having babies, too, and see people rejoice in those pregnancies without any acknowledgment at all that some people were making hard choices of chastity and those choices were worth celebrating?)

    So basically I’m saying we acknowledge, “This was sin–it has been repented–she is a member in good standing in this church–now we can move on and support her and celebrate the baby with her when it is born, and rejoice with her.” Then throw the baby shower, and it won’t look like you’re rewarding her choice. Like the article you linked to earlier, it said that the right-to-life group is collecting funds for a college scholarship for the young mother. Nothing wrong with that if it is kept in context–that this girl is going to need all the help she can get. But if I had been in her high school graduating class, unable to afford college myself (it was six years before I found a way to go to college, when I graduated high school I assumed I would never be able to attend college, and I put myself through by working long hours), it would have felt to me like they were rewarding fornication. Don’t have “must conceive child out of wedlock” as a prerequisite for a scholarship. It isn’t a good precedent. Do say “This young woman and her baby need our support, and this is one means of offering it.”

    Like

  40. If life begins at conception, then the pregnancy is the growth of a new life which simply becomes visible at birth. People congratulate women on their pregnancies all the time. Mary and Elizabeth congratulated each other.
    As for the public aspect of it, not only is pregnancy not sin, the pregnancy of an unwed mother is not necessarily public evidence of sin. This story demonstrates that the pregnant teenage girl may well be entirely innocent: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43198631/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/man-guilty-raping-teen-church-member/#.WSZLmmyrMcQ. In light of the facts that one in four women are sexually assaulted and most women know their rapists, the determination about how the unwed mother became pregnant is not a foregone conclusion. That being the case, those in church who make assumptions about the unwed mother in their church may want to read the verse about not judging. The unwed mother is one of the most vulnerable people in society, being both burdened with a young life to care for and having no man to share the burden with, so that they need more support than censure. As the Scripture says, “He will have judgement without mercy that shows no mercy, and mercy rejoices against judgement.” Christ raked Simon over the coals for the way he judged a woman who was a known sinner. Surely, we can spare the unwed mother who may or may not be a sinner.

    Like

  41. The baby shower is to provide things for the baby, as the child needs clothes and supplies no matter how they were conceived. Gone are the days when being a bastard is to be born into a lower social order where one could expect not to be treated the same as other children, and that is a good thing. It has not escaped my notice that Christ took on himself the things which would cause a person to be excluded from the congregation of Israel, one of which was being conceived outside of marriage (Deut. 23:2, notice verse 3 forbids an Moabite from entering, yet Christ was descended from Ruth). That was not his case but he still took on the appearance of it, as did his mother and also his foster father Joseph by marrying her after she was discovered to be pregnant. In trying to discipline the mother by not treating her pregnancies as other pregnancies, one simple ends up punishing the child.

    Like

  42. Finally, Paul would say that the mature Christian does not engage in comparisons. I happen to know that scholarships are not a free ride. All of them come with conditions attached, grade points to be kept up, etc. and that they seldom, if ever, cover all school expenses. Why would I feel bad that the mother, who has another mouth to feed and a life to nurture and take care of, has some part of her educational expenses paid? The only reason I would take notice of the scholarships which are provided to unwed mothers and compare their lot to my own would be to indulge in self-pity, which is, ultimately, a sinful attitude. My parents, many years ago, did shelter an unwed mother for a short time when she needed help. Strangely enough, none of their daughters got the idea from that that promiscuity would be rewarded and the three who have had children all conceived them within wedlock. Really, if I am being chaste out of love for Christ, what is it to me what others do? If I become involved in an unwed mother’s life, it must be solely out of that love of Christ, who did not break the bruised reed or quench the smoking flax.

    Like

  43. Roscuro, I am going to be 50 next month, and I hope I have the maturity of a person of half a century of life who has now been a believer more than 40 years, and I also accepted long ago that I would never bear my own children–but there was a time that was a really huge sorrow to me.

    At least twice now you have missed that I have spoken of something I “felt” when I was in my twenties or “would have felt” had I been in such and such a situation when graduating from high school (which I did at age 16, not an age of deep maturity). Many have made the point that when our culture started paying mothers for having babies out of wedlock, provided they did not marry the fathers, we got the (should-have-been-expected) results of lower percentages of total births being within marriage. Well, I’m reporting how it felt to be the 20-something girl who badly, badly wanted children and who was in a Christian setting where it was considered more normal for single women to be giving birth than for them not to be doing so. It felt weird. And it gave me great compassion for the young girls around me to whom having a baby was a normal rite of passage but marriage was not. There are reasons I have volunteered for crisis pregnancy centers in two different cities, and did foster care in Nashville–because I really do care for girls in that situation.

    You also keep assuming I want to censure her when I think I have said otherwise quite clearly. I really do think there is a difference between celebrating pregnancy (“congratulations”) and welcoming a baby. The close friends I’ve had who welcomed grandbabies born to their unmarried daughters have managed to feel both the sorrow and the joy, and to have the joy overcome the sorrow after having a few months to prepare. I don’t think it is bad to feel both. (The mothers I’ve known in that situation have also felt some anger.)

    Somehow we are talking past each other, and I’ve probably said enough.

    Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s