47 thoughts on “News/Politics 5-16-17

  1. While the breathless hand wringing will continue, the fact remains that Trump did nothing wrong.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/15/mcmaster_the_story_that_came_out_tonight_as_reported_is_false.html

    “LT. GEN. H.R. McMASTER, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: I have a brief statement for the record. There is nothing that the president takes more seriously than the security of the American people. The story that came out tonight as reported is false. The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation.

    At no time, at no time, where intelligent sources or methods discussed. And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known. Two other senior officials who were present, including the Secretary of the State, remember the meeting the same way and have said so. Their on the record accounts should outweigh anonymous sources. I was in the room. It didn’t happen.”

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  2. This would be a great name for a heavy metal band.

    The Irrationals and the Inferno of Flaming Crazies

    First;

    The Irrationals.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2017/05/14/the-irrationals-trumps-opponents-are-his-greatest-asset-n2326570

    “It wasn’t a good week for President Donald Trump, but it could have been a lot worse. For all his faults – and there are many – the president is blessed with one important thing: opponents so unhinged, so irrational, that even when compared to him, he comes off better.

    The ham-handed and, frankly, classless way in which the president fired FBI Director James Comey could have and should have been handled better. The White House can find out where the head of the FBI is at any given moment, so wait until he’s in the office to fire him or pick up the phone and do it right. Instead, Comey saw it on TV.

    That said, he had to go. But media reports suggest the White House was shocked at the reaction. If true, that itself is shocking. If Donald Trump saved a puppy, the media and Democrats would complain about it, so firing the head of a department currently investigating the Trump campaign and being shocked about blowback is amateurish.

    Luckily for the president, “worse than amateurish” is the perfect way to describe his opponents.”
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    And then, their Inferno of Flaming Crazies.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/05/15/liberals-are-an-inferno-of-flaming-crazy-and-we-should-pour-gasoline-on-the-fire-n2326754

    “Pity the Democrats, to the extent you can without bursting into hysterical laughter at their agony. America has thoroughly rejected them in every branch of the federal government plus out in the states, and on top of that they were utterly humiliated by the guy they all claimed was a complete moron. Which begs the question – what does that make the sanctimonious harpy he crushed in the Electoral College?

    They still haven’t realized what’s going on. Their ego-driven drive to dominate normal people and shape us into New Socialist Nongendered Beings has blinded them to the bitter reality.

    We think they, along with their minions in the media, in Hollywood, and on campus, suck.

    They are baffled at our refusal to acknowledge their moral, intellectual, and political superiority. It doesn’t just compute.

    Yeah, well compute this, geebos.

    You look nuts. I mean wacko, zonked out, “Hey, that goldfish is firing a mind control laser at my brain and making me break dance” nuts.

    But don’t stop. No, pump it up. You’re at “11,” and I say take it to “12.”

    This is great!”
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    Sometimes pointing and laughing is the best option.

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  3. Part 1:

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  4. Hypocrites.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/15/fight-15-champion-dnc-sued-not-paying-minimum-wage/

    “With a hat tip to America Rising Squared, it’s worth noting that the DNC (and Big Labor) is off to a rough start this week. There’s an embarrassing lawsuit percolating in Pennsylvania where a group of Democratic campaign workers are upset with the state party and the leadership of the national committee. The reason? They were apparently working their tails off for them during the 2016 campaign, laboring to help the party who was promising to Fight for 15 and give a “living wage” to everyone. Unfortunately, as Sam Dorman at the Free Beacon explains, those generous wages were not intended for the party’s own workers out on the streets. In fact, some of them weren’t even getting minimum wage.

    Dozens of field workers have filed a class action lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee, claiming the party that is pushing employers to pay a $15 minimum wage and more in overtime failed to pay overtime and minimum wages to its own employees.

    Justin Swidler, the attorney representing the field workers, argued the Democratic Party failed to pay workers a minimum wage and denied them overtime compensation. Swidler “says the lawsuit seeks ‘fair pay for fair work,’ and holding the Democratic Party to the very ideals that it embraces,” according to CBS Philly.

    If you’re talking Pennsylvania Democratic Party business you can’t help but have former Governor Ed Rendell involved. He was not only instrumental in the party efforts in his own state but served as the chair of the Democratic National Convention Host Committee. While insisting that the workers bringing this lawsuit didn’t work directly for his committee, he’s quoted as saying that he warned the people they did hire well in advance that they would be receiving what he described as, “substandard pay.””

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  5. Part 2:

    Trump did not deny any part of The Washington Post story. Last week Pence was made to look like a liar or a fool by Trump. This week it is poor McMaster’s turn.

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  6. What’s to deny?

    And what part of

    ““For most anyone in government discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.”

    are you not getting?

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  7. AJ, No one is saying what Trump did was illegal. Read the Lawfare article I posted. Everyone (except Trump cultists) is saying that what Trump did was unwise. Using your argument, Trump could have given the Russians every bit of classified information he received during the last week. Would that have been legal? Yes. Would it have been wise? No.

    But as Brooks explained above, we are dealing with a 7 year old child in the Oval Office. Many have known that from the beginning. The really interesting thing about this whole experience is to see how the power of The Cult blinds otherwise rational people, and causes them to automatically defend every idiotic word or deed of The Leader.

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  8. Sen Sasse (on CNN) just made the exact point I made @8:22. Everyone gets it except the Trump cultists who actually think The Emperor Trump is wearing clothes.

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  9. Ricky,

    So it’s OK if leakers break the law, as long as it’s damaging to Trump, who didn’t break the law.

    Got it.

    (and yes, according to WaPo they were provided classified info, but refused to print it due to the sensitive nature, as this quote from WaPo states.)

    “The Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.”

    It’s not a crime to do what Trump did. It is however a federal crime to disclose such info to reporters. More details were given to the reporter than Trump gave the Russians as well. He didn’t disclose the city and other identifying info to the Russians. But the leaker disclosed all that and more to WaPo. That’s the crime here, but Trump detractors continue to ignore that.

    A criminal leaker is not the same as a whistle blower. The former get prosecuted, the latter are protected.
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    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/16/trumps-russia-leak-real-scandal-behind-washington-post-story.html

    “The Post claims it did not reveal all the details of the disclosures from its sources because U.S. officials said this would “jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.”

    Yes, there’s a scandal here. It concerns former and current U.S. officials leaking classified information to the press to undermine a U.S. president.”
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    “The real scandal here concerns the current and former U.S. officials who spoke to the Washington Post to generate this story. We don’t know if these sources lied, misrepresented what went on in the Trump meeting with the Russians, or were second-guessing what Trump told them.

    We do know that current U.S. officials — possibly with the NSC and intelligence agencies — originated this story and revealed highly classified intelligence to the Post as part of their leaks. They were joined by former U.S government officials who I assume worked for the CIA and the Obama NSC. These people committed felonies. They must be identified and prosecuted.

    The leaks also are another indication of the serious problem the Trump administration continues to face with leakers. Major house cleanings at the NSC, CIA, ODNI and the State Department to address this serious security threat are long overdue. It is urgent that the Trump administration bring in new blood to replace hundreds of Obama loyalists placed in key positions throughout the government by the last administration.

    Just as serious is how partisan cowards entrusted with national security information are anonymously leaking U.S. intelligence to ruin an American president and our democratic system. It’s about time the mainstream media and congressional Democrats start focusing on the dangers of such leaks to our security and system of government instead of just using them to advance their political agenda against President Trump. “

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  10. AJ, If the idiot you elected is inadvertently blurting out confidential info to the Russians in a manner that is damaging to US intelligence gathering operations, that is probably something we all need to know. The press exists to protect us from morons as well as tyrants.

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  11. Michelle (10:58), you nailed it. I was thinking the same thing yesterday as many of my colleagues were expressing excitement among themselves that maybe this will be “it,” the thing that takes him out.

    And I kept thinking they really don’t see it — readers believe (correctly) that the media has “taken a side” in all of this. So it doesn’t really matter if this particular news report is true and worthy of serious concern (it very well may be); no one’s “hearing” it because the source — the mainstream news media — is forever now tainted with having tipped its hand over and over again.

    The fault is the media’s in many ways, for never taking seriously the criticism leveled from the outside. A sad state of affairs all the way around, in which the nation suffers.

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  12. And you could also add Fox to that list Tychicus. There is an agenda there as well, especially among the commentators. So using multiple sources and weighing the information is really more important than ever for consumers of the news.

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  13. Michelle and DJ, You both nailed it. Even Bill Maher admitted a while back that the press had blown it by “crying wolf” when Little Bush and Romney were candidates. Now no one believes them when the real wolf is here. Fortunately and hilariously, the real wolf is deranged and prone to chasing and biting his own tail.

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  14. That there has been a liberal undercurrent to news reporting (for many decades now) really cannot be disputed. Yet the media disputes it — and not very thoughtfully, but with swagger and self-righteousness. Where some self-examination was in order, the media more often responded with denials-denials-denials.

    Thus the conservative media was born, which, unfortunately, failed to prompt that self-examination that was so needed — instead, it only pushed much of the rest of the media further left, but now in a much more transparent way.

    Trump is, indeed, a unique figure who generates much hatred and fear. Now some in the media see their mission as virtually preserving the nation by going after him aggressively.

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  15. DJ and Ricky: Sure, but here’s my question: Was it the FoxNews agenda to actually destroy Pres. Obama? Does the liberal MSM want to destroy Pres. Trump?

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  16. And now we have full-blown media chaos. No one knows what to believe or where to go for trustworthy coverage. All sources are suspect.

    While healthy skepticism among readers and viewers is a good thing, it’s swung way beyond that now. Sad.

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  17. This is the first thing Trump has done that I think was bad. In 4 months of Trump as President, only one non-political thing that I think Trump has done that he shouldn’t have done. This is no where near what the Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, are claiming Trump to have done. That comes out to about 10 things that Trump will do wrong in the course of his term in office. Do I only do one thing wrong every 5 months? Do you?

    Compare Obama with Trump; ObamaCare, the 2 gangsters at the Polling Place, leaving Netanyahu while going to dinner, “Fast and Furious”, the IRS and “True the Vote”, the IRS and the Tea Parties. There is too much to remember.

    Trump is not politic. Obama was/is evil. Obama was/is petty and mean. Obama was/is mendacious. As my school kids would have said, “He’s a liar and his breathe stinks.” I have never liked him; he is as truthful as Clinton, either one!

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  18. Tychicus, Fox News’ agenda is to make money. Their business model (like that of Limbaugh) is to appeal to and reinforce the beliefs of middle class, older white people.

    Though they are liberal as DJ says, I don’t think the rest of the media has an agenda to destroy Trump. They also want to make money. Trump is a daily circus. As Brooks said, he is a seven year old. For once the press doesn’t have to be biased. They just accurately report what the idiot says and does.

    And I say all this as a Goldwater/Reagan conservative who is probably to the right of anyone here.

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  19. An interesting article by Erick Erickson:

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.mediaite.com/online/erick-erickson-i-know-one-of-the-sources-of-wapo-story-its-even-worse-than-reported/amp/

    Among his points:

    1. One of the leakers is a longtime Trumpkin, who was nevertheless appalled by Trump’s actions.

    2. The leak was worse than reported.

    3. Trumpkins in the White House are forced to leak to the press regularly to prevent even more idiotic behavior by The Orange One.

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  20. Well that didn’t take long. But this is clearly trading down. Pretty far down in fact….

    I can see why Beck would want it, to try and salvage his ratings and audience. But I don’t get the appeal for Bill.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/o%E2%80%99reilly-to-team-up-with-glenn-beck-on-radio/ar-BBBcNNJ?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=U452DHP

    “Former Fox News titans Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck will be reuniting for a weekly spot on Beck’s radio show.

    “We’re going to do that every Friday until Beck gets tired of me,” O’Reilly said Monday on his “No Spin News” podcast. “And it’s a good outlet for me to, you know, discuss things back and forth with Beck, who’s a good friend. We don’t agree on everything, but it’s very lively.””

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  21. Ricky, it’s clear that a lot of the MSM reporting hasn’t been accurate.Also, some of them have been so rabid toward Trump that it’s clear that they actually do want to destroy him.

    Furthermore, such folks forget that Obama had pushed the Pentagon to release more intelligence to the Russians about ISIS. They also forget about when he was caught telling the Russians that he would have more latitude after winning the election. They also forget about Hillary retaining highly classified national defense documents on her personal, unsecured server. Now they are acting like these Dems have never done anything to damage national security. Very forgetful, they are.

    On a somewhat different note, when we consider the wider public, how many liberals have been turned away from speaking at universities and other venues? How many neighborhoods have been destroyed, buildings looted, police and private vehicles burned, and streets and roadways blocked? When did conservatives do any of those things?

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  23. Yes, Trump didn’t do anything illegal but he did do something detrimental to the security of the US which is far worse (and possibly a violation of his oath to defend the constitution/the US from enemies foreign or domestic). By all accounts the intel he shared came from an Israeli asset — who are probably not too impressed that Trump passed this intel to the Russians who in all likelihood are sharing it with Assad and the Iranians. The likelihood the Israelis will be willing to share more intel is unlikely. If I were the Israelis I wouldn’t trust Trump.

    I wonder — since the President declassified the information in sharing it with the US, is the WaPo story a leak?? After all, its no longer classified information.

    Brooks, and late night comedians, are right — Trump is a immature child who desperately seeks the approval of the adults in the room. For the media to report his incompetence and immaturity is not a liberal bias. Finding dirt on Trump is like shooting fish in a barrel. You don’t need an agenda to find dirt, you just have to be within hearing range of the West Wing. Trump was great for cable news ratings on the campaign trail — why wouldn’t they continue to report his every misstep now — its great for ratings. The only bias in the MSM is ratings i.e. money.

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  24. Thanks for posting, HRW. That is good news for Canada. You send raw materials to Asia and Asia sends its best and brightest to Canada. That is a good trade deal.

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  25. For those of you who think Fox is a fair and balanced source.

    Remember that the selection of stories is also one of the major forms of bias in the liberal media.

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  26. Ricky, I will say one needs to separate the news division from commentators — such as Carlson and all the rest. Commentators are, of course, biased, that is what they get paid to be. Same with MSNBC and other stations. One should expect biased commentary when one tunes in to those shows.

    The news divisions, though, while they may emphasize different headlines than their competitors, are in the business of delivering and, at times, analyzing the news.

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