Veterans protest flag removal at Hampshire College
The college’s president did not attend the demonstration. AMHERST, Mass. (WWLP) – At least 1,000 veterans gathered in Amherst this afternoon to protest the removal of the American flag at Hampshire College. 22News spoke to protesters about why they strongly disagreed with the college’s decision.
Freedom is not free. That’s the lesson that hundreds of veterans, their families and friends and other local residents hoped to teach students at Hampshire College Sunday afternoon
I read the article, but never saw the reason for removing the flag. I think the solution for all this is for protestors to go somewhere they are appreciated. It’s likely that they are being subsideized by the government they are protesting.
These are our next generation. I fear for your future.
“A humanities professor at Columbia University in New York City says Donald Trump’s presidential win should signal the end of liberal identity politics.
Speaking with NPR Friday morning, Mark Lilla argued that Mr. Trump’s election victory was due to American voters being “disaffected with the liberal message.”
“Democrats have simply lost the country,” he said. “They have lost the capacity to speak to the vast middle of America, an America that is, in large part, white, very religious and not highly educated.
“Ever since Reagan, [Republicans have] been able to capture the message and an understanding — or persuade people of a certain understanding of what the nation is about and what’s good for it,” he added.
Mr. Lilla, author of “The Shipwrecked Mind: On Political Reaction,” described identity liberalism as “expressive rather than persuasive.”
“It’s about recognition and self-definition,” he said. “It’s narcissistic. It’s isolating. It looks within. And it also makes two contradictory claims on people. It says, on the one hand, you can never understand me because you are not exactly the kind of person I’ve defined myself to be. And on the other hand, you must recognize me and feel for me. Well, if you’re so different that I’m not able to get into your head and I’m not able to experience or sympathize with what you experience, why should I care?
To take one example,” he continued, “the whole issue of bathrooms and gender — in this particular election, when the stakes were so high, the fact that Democrats and liberals, more generally, lost a lot of political capital on this issue that frightened people. People were misinformed about certain things, but it was really a question of where young people would be going to the bathroom and where they would be in lockers. Is that really the issue we want to be pushing leading up to a momentous election like this one? It’s that shortsightedness that comes from identity politics.””
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More here,
“Cuz most Dems are gonna stick with what they know, even when they’re dealing with one another. The fact that it’s happening with Pelosi as the victim is rather ironic, and will be fun to watch.
“A member of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) is sounding the alarm over the new changes floated by Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), warning that the minority leader’s proposals could erode the power of African-American lawmakers even as they attempt to spread influence to younger members.
In a note to fellow members of the CBC, Rep. Cedric Richmond (D-La.) praised Pelosi “for listening to the concerns” of Democrats seeking a new path forward after a disastrous election cycle that will put Republicans in charge of the White House and both chambers of Congress next year.
But he’s also worried that some of the proposals “may have severe unintended consequences that could diminish our power as a caucus” by preventing many longstanding CBC members from rising through the ranks.
Richmond said he’s particularly troubled that Pelosi’s proposals “seem to target the portfolio” of the third-ranking leadership post, currently held by Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), a 12-term CBC member, by making that position an elected seat reserved for lawmakers who have served three terms or less.
“I understand responsibilities will have to be reallocated in order to make room at the leadership table for others, but we must make sure that we do not send the message that, of the top three leaders, the Assistant Leader bears the blame for our losses,” Richmond wrote.
“As a general note, the proposal creates a number of positions that can only be filled by Members who have served fewer than three or four terms,” he added. “However, we have a number of Members who have been in Congress five or more terms, but have not been able to serve in leadership roles because of stagnation at the top of our leadership structure.”
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And I actually like the Dems proposed rule change, and think it should be top to bottom for both parties. It gives younger members who aren’t totally corrupted by the system yet a chance, rather than the entrenched career politicians. We never get new ideas because the people deciding so-called solutions in most cases caused the problems in the first place. I wish R’s would do the same system wide.
Yeah Orin Hatch, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain, I’m lookin’ at you…..
“Federal agencies are rushing out a final volley of executive actions in the last two months of Barack Obama’s presidency, despite warnings from Republicans in Congress and the reality that Donald Trump will have the power to erase much of their handiwork after Jan. 20.
Regulations on commodities speculation, air pollution from the oil industry, doctors’ Medicare drug payments and high-skilled immigrant workers are among the rules moving through the pipeline as Obama’s administration grasps at one last chance to cement his legacy. So are regulations tightening states’ oversight of online colleges and protecting funding for Planned Parenthood.
Also moving ahead are negotiations on an investment treaty with China and decisions by the Education Department on whether to offer debt relief to students at defunct for-profit colleges. The Department of Transportation may also go ahead with a ban on cellphone calls on commercial flights and a rule requiring that most freight trains have at least two crew members on duty.
Some agencies are pulling back, fearful that Trump and the GOP-led Congress will use a seldom-invoked legislative tool to permanently wipe out their 11th-hour regulations. For example, the Interior Department has failed to release a long-awaited rule to protect streams from coal mining pollution — and indications are it might never issue it.
But other agencies have signaled full steam ahead despite the threat of Republicans consigning their work to oblivion, in a dynamic that will be crucial to deciding how much of Obama’s legacy survives the ascendant Trump era.”
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You can’t continue to belittle a group of people (uneducated people) and expect them to listen to a word you say. I have known quite few white men who had high school diplomas but were among the smartest people I have ever know. I worked for one once, maybe twice.
The way this is seen by some of my liberal friends is that those “uneducated”, rural or rust-belt whites are selfish, not caring about the welfare of minorities or people in the LGBT community. Their rebellion, so to speak, against political correctness was due to their being tired of having to hide their hatred & bigotry towards those different from them. 😦
It hurts my heart to see the division & rancor among our people, & to see how so many on each “side” feel such contempt for those on the “other side”.
They are selfish. They are tired. They are worn out. They are the last group of Americans that it is OK to make fun of. They worked and paid their taxes while supporting those who couldn’t. They didn’t begrudge that, they expected that when they needed help and they didn’t ever really expect to need help, but if they did, they thought their government would be kind to them as well. I have many, many gay friends and relatives, but how would you feel if you were a military veteran who was in pain for 2 years while you went through the process of proving that a medical procedure could help you but someone in the military decides oops I shoulda been a girl and taxpayers are paying for the surgery? Or how would you feel if someone in prison could get a sex change but you couldn’t get necessary medical treatment?
I get this because ONE TIME, I was desperate enough to ask for help and I was turned down.
They don’t really care if you get a sex change they just don’t want to pay for it.
They really don’t care who you love or sleep with they just don’t want to hear the details.
As far as minorities? They don’t really care about that either. It is hard though when you are scraping together pennies to buy toilet paper and the person in front of you is buying rib eyes and “luxuries”. They don’t hate them. They just want their share of the pie too and they are willing to work for it. I like to see successful minorities. I like to support local business owned by people I know. I get it. Liberals don’t because their first line of argument is that “you are a racist, bigoted, misogynist cousin marrying beer swilling backwoods yay hack. Perhaps they need to use some of their open mindedness to give another group a chance to say what they mean without being demeaned.
“The lawyer representing Hillary Clinton’s recount efforts recently led legal battles against state voting laws with an infusion of funding from billionaire George Soros.
On Saturday, Marc Elias, the Clinton team’s general counsel, announced Clinton’s campaign would participate in Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s recount effort in Wisconsin. Elias also said the Clinton campaign would participate if Stein decides to pursue recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan.”
“Elias is a senior lawyer at the Perkins Coie law firm, which also represents Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.
In July, the New York Times reported Soros had pledged up to $5 million for a legal fight led by Elias against what the newspaper characterized as “restrictive voting laws enacted in recent years by Republican-controlled state governments.”
The Times further reported on Elias’ Soros-financed efforts:
Elias, who specializes in voter-protection issues, was in contact with Mr. Soros in January 2014 when Mr. Elias was exploring a series of federal lawsuits before that year’s midterm election and in advance of the 2016 campaign, according to Mr. Soros’s political adviser, Michael Vachon. (Mr. Elias declined to comment on Friday about the funding of the lawsuits.)
The goal is to try to influence voting rules in states where Republican governors and Republican-led legislatures have enacted election laws since 2010, and to be ready to intervene if additional measures are passed over the next 17 months.
At the time, Soros helped pay for two lawsuits in Ohio and Wisconsin, and the billionaire activist contributed funds for suits that, according to the Times, “Mr. Elias and several other groups filed last year in North Carolina.”
In August, the Washington Post spotlighted the Soros-funded legal work of Elias in a profile titled, “The crusade of a Democratic superlawyer with multimillion-dollar backing.” The newspaper described Elias as the “go-to lawyer for Democrats in recount fights and redistricting battles.”
The Post reported on Elias’s top benefactor:
With a multimillion-dollar commitment from liberal mega-donor George Soros, Elias is challenging laws that, he argues, diminish the impact of important Democratic Party constituencies of African Americans, Latinos and young people.”
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And no, this isn’t just some blind donation made without his knowledge by one of his foundations.
Once again our govt allows outside interests to affect our elections. Russia isn’t the problem, Soros and his ilk are.
I’m afraid the rancor is getting worse (and will continue to do so). Saw an editorial today mocking “values voters,” saying drug abuse & divorce rates are higher in “red states.”
Everyone’s turning on “the other” with both barrels.
Or how about working your tail off 80 hours at week to build a business, or working your way up the ladder at the same job for 30 years or starving your way through college only to be told a high school drop out burger flipper deserves more per hour than you do.
The one thing I like about Trump is that he killed this whole stupid idea that if we compromise enough the people on the Left will like us. That not going to happen so lets just go ahead and be real, unapologetic conservatives.
DJ – Yeah, YF has shared articles showing how drug abuse, divorce, domestic abuse, & some other bad things are higher in red states. I haven’t checked out the accuracy of those statements.
There is definitely a snobbery/condescension toward “red” (“flyover”) states. Very annoying and just so smug. I don’t know why they can’t hear themselves and how snooty (prejudiced?) that really sounds.
Last I heard, adults with a college education were still something like 25% of the population. So it’s pretty crazy to call people with a high school diploma “uneducated.” My father-in-law has two Ph.D.s but I only have a B.A.–should he refer to me as “uneducated”?
My husband mentioned the other day that he thinks my younger brother may be the smartest member of my family . . . that brother is, incidentally, the only one of the five without some sort of degree, and he got a GED for high school. He’s very, very smart and well informed, and he has been very successful in his work. But he’d fall under the label “uneducated” to people nowhere near as smart–or as knowledgeable, or as wise–as he is.
Wandering Views 
From wllp22, via Drudge
Veterans protest flag removal at Hampshire College
The college’s president did not attend the demonstration. AMHERST, Mass. (WWLP) – At least 1,000 veterans gathered in Amherst this afternoon to protest the removal of the American flag at Hampshire College. 22News spoke to protesters about why they strongly disagreed with the college’s decision.
Freedom is not free. That’s the lesson that hundreds of veterans, their families and friends and other local residents hoped to teach students at Hampshire College Sunday afternoon
I read the article, but never saw the reason for removing the flag. I think the solution for all this is for protestors to go somewhere they are appreciated. It’s likely that they are being subsideized by the government they are protesting.
These are our next generation. I fear for your future.
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Identity politics is all they had, and it’s failing them.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/25/mark-lilla-columbia-professor-slams-narcissistic-i/
“A humanities professor at Columbia University in New York City says Donald Trump’s presidential win should signal the end of liberal identity politics.
Speaking with NPR Friday morning, Mark Lilla argued that Mr. Trump’s election victory was due to American voters being “disaffected with the liberal message.”
“Democrats have simply lost the country,” he said. “They have lost the capacity to speak to the vast middle of America, an America that is, in large part, white, very religious and not highly educated.
“Ever since Reagan, [Republicans have] been able to capture the message and an understanding — or persuade people of a certain understanding of what the nation is about and what’s good for it,” he added.
Mr. Lilla, author of “The Shipwrecked Mind: On Political Reaction,” described identity liberalism as “expressive rather than persuasive.”
“It’s about recognition and self-definition,” he said. “It’s narcissistic. It’s isolating. It looks within. And it also makes two contradictory claims on people. It says, on the one hand, you can never understand me because you are not exactly the kind of person I’ve defined myself to be. And on the other hand, you must recognize me and feel for me. Well, if you’re so different that I’m not able to get into your head and I’m not able to experience or sympathize with what you experience, why should I care?
To take one example,” he continued, “the whole issue of bathrooms and gender — in this particular election, when the stakes were so high, the fact that Democrats and liberals, more generally, lost a lot of political capital on this issue that frightened people. People were misinformed about certain things, but it was really a question of where young people would be going to the bathroom and where they would be in lockers. Is that really the issue we want to be pushing leading up to a momentous election like this one? It’s that shortsightedness that comes from identity politics.””
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More here,
“Cuz most Dems are gonna stick with what they know, even when they’re dealing with one another. The fact that it’s happening with Pelosi as the victim is rather ironic, and will be fun to watch.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/307606-black-lawmaker-troubled-by-pelosis-caucus-changes#.WDtKy5alXBE.twitter
“A member of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) is sounding the alarm over the new changes floated by Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), warning that the minority leader’s proposals could erode the power of African-American lawmakers even as they attempt to spread influence to younger members.
In a note to fellow members of the CBC, Rep. Cedric Richmond (D-La.) praised Pelosi “for listening to the concerns” of Democrats seeking a new path forward after a disastrous election cycle that will put Republicans in charge of the White House and both chambers of Congress next year.
But he’s also worried that some of the proposals “may have severe unintended consequences that could diminish our power as a caucus” by preventing many longstanding CBC members from rising through the ranks.
Richmond said he’s particularly troubled that Pelosi’s proposals “seem to target the portfolio” of the third-ranking leadership post, currently held by Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), a 12-term CBC member, by making that position an elected seat reserved for lawmakers who have served three terms or less.
“I understand responsibilities will have to be reallocated in order to make room at the leadership table for others, but we must make sure that we do not send the message that, of the top three leaders, the Assistant Leader bears the blame for our losses,” Richmond wrote.
“As a general note, the proposal creates a number of positions that can only be filled by Members who have served fewer than three or four terms,” he added. “However, we have a number of Members who have been in Congress five or more terms, but have not been able to serve in leadership roles because of stagnation at the top of our leadership structure.”
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Sure seems racist to me. 🙄
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And I actually like the Dems proposed rule change, and think it should be top to bottom for both parties. It gives younger members who aren’t totally corrupted by the system yet a chance, rather than the entrenched career politicians. We never get new ideas because the people deciding so-called solutions in most cases caused the problems in the first place. I wish R’s would do the same system wide.
Yeah Orin Hatch, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain, I’m lookin’ at you…..
Because you’re part of the problem as well.
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The final flailings of a failed presidency.
Just add them to the “needs to be rescinded on day one” list.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-regulations-231820
“Federal agencies are rushing out a final volley of executive actions in the last two months of Barack Obama’s presidency, despite warnings from Republicans in Congress and the reality that Donald Trump will have the power to erase much of their handiwork after Jan. 20.
Regulations on commodities speculation, air pollution from the oil industry, doctors’ Medicare drug payments and high-skilled immigrant workers are among the rules moving through the pipeline as Obama’s administration grasps at one last chance to cement his legacy. So are regulations tightening states’ oversight of online colleges and protecting funding for Planned Parenthood.
Also moving ahead are negotiations on an investment treaty with China and decisions by the Education Department on whether to offer debt relief to students at defunct for-profit colleges. The Department of Transportation may also go ahead with a ban on cellphone calls on commercial flights and a rule requiring that most freight trains have at least two crew members on duty.
Some agencies are pulling back, fearful that Trump and the GOP-led Congress will use a seldom-invoked legislative tool to permanently wipe out their 11th-hour regulations. For example, the Interior Department has failed to release a long-awaited rule to protect streams from coal mining pollution — and indications are it might never issue it.
But other agencies have signaled full steam ahead despite the threat of Republicans consigning their work to oblivion, in a dynamic that will be crucial to deciding how much of Obama’s legacy survives the ascendant Trump era.”
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Tear it all down.
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You can’t continue to belittle a group of people (uneducated people) and expect them to listen to a word you say. I have known quite few white men who had high school diplomas but were among the smartest people I have ever know. I worked for one once, maybe twice.
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The way this is seen by some of my liberal friends is that those “uneducated”, rural or rust-belt whites are selfish, not caring about the welfare of minorities or people in the LGBT community. Their rebellion, so to speak, against political correctness was due to their being tired of having to hide their hatred & bigotry towards those different from them. 😦
It hurts my heart to see the division & rancor among our people, & to see how so many on each “side” feel such contempt for those on the “other side”.
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They are selfish. They are tired. They are worn out. They are the last group of Americans that it is OK to make fun of. They worked and paid their taxes while supporting those who couldn’t. They didn’t begrudge that, they expected that when they needed help and they didn’t ever really expect to need help, but if they did, they thought their government would be kind to them as well. I have many, many gay friends and relatives, but how would you feel if you were a military veteran who was in pain for 2 years while you went through the process of proving that a medical procedure could help you but someone in the military decides oops I shoulda been a girl and taxpayers are paying for the surgery? Or how would you feel if someone in prison could get a sex change but you couldn’t get necessary medical treatment?
I get this because ONE TIME, I was desperate enough to ask for help and I was turned down.
They don’t really care if you get a sex change they just don’t want to pay for it.
They really don’t care who you love or sleep with they just don’t want to hear the details.
As far as minorities? They don’t really care about that either. It is hard though when you are scraping together pennies to buy toilet paper and the person in front of you is buying rib eyes and “luxuries”. They don’t hate them. They just want their share of the pie too and they are willing to work for it. I like to see successful minorities. I like to support local business owned by people I know. I get it. Liberals don’t because their first line of argument is that “you are a racist, bigoted, misogynist cousin marrying beer swilling backwoods yay hack. Perhaps they need to use some of their open mindedness to give another group a chance to say what they mean without being demeaned.
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They are NOT selfish
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So who’s helping fund the recount scam?
Who else…
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/28/soros-financed-attorney-leading-hillary-clintons-recount-efforts/
“The lawyer representing Hillary Clinton’s recount efforts recently led legal battles against state voting laws with an infusion of funding from billionaire George Soros.
On Saturday, Marc Elias, the Clinton team’s general counsel, announced Clinton’s campaign would participate in Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s recount effort in Wisconsin. Elias also said the Clinton campaign would participate if Stein decides to pursue recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan.”
“Elias is a senior lawyer at the Perkins Coie law firm, which also represents Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.
In July, the New York Times reported Soros had pledged up to $5 million for a legal fight led by Elias against what the newspaper characterized as “restrictive voting laws enacted in recent years by Republican-controlled state governments.”
The Times further reported on Elias’ Soros-financed efforts:
Elias, who specializes in voter-protection issues, was in contact with Mr. Soros in January 2014 when Mr. Elias was exploring a series of federal lawsuits before that year’s midterm election and in advance of the 2016 campaign, according to Mr. Soros’s political adviser, Michael Vachon. (Mr. Elias declined to comment on Friday about the funding of the lawsuits.)
The goal is to try to influence voting rules in states where Republican governors and Republican-led legislatures have enacted election laws since 2010, and to be ready to intervene if additional measures are passed over the next 17 months.
At the time, Soros helped pay for two lawsuits in Ohio and Wisconsin, and the billionaire activist contributed funds for suits that, according to the Times, “Mr. Elias and several other groups filed last year in North Carolina.”
In August, the Washington Post spotlighted the Soros-funded legal work of Elias in a profile titled, “The crusade of a Democratic superlawyer with multimillion-dollar backing.” The newspaper described Elias as the “go-to lawyer for Democrats in recount fights and redistricting battles.”
The Post reported on Elias’s top benefactor:
With a multimillion-dollar commitment from liberal mega-donor George Soros, Elias is challenging laws that, he argues, diminish the impact of important Democratic Party constituencies of African Americans, Latinos and young people.”
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And no, this isn’t just some blind donation made without his knowledge by one of his foundations.
Once again our govt allows outside interests to affect our elections. Russia isn’t the problem, Soros and his ilk are.
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Kim – I hope my comment was clear that I was writing about what some liberals think, not my own thoughts.
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I’m afraid the rancor is getting worse (and will continue to do so). Saw an editorial today mocking “values voters,” saying drug abuse & divorce rates are higher in “red states.”
Everyone’s turning on “the other” with both barrels.
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Or how about working your tail off 80 hours at week to build a business, or working your way up the ladder at the same job for 30 years or starving your way through college only to be told a high school drop out burger flipper deserves more per hour than you do.
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The one thing I like about Trump is that he killed this whole stupid idea that if we compromise enough the people on the Left will like us. That not going to happen so lets just go ahead and be real, unapologetic conservatives.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/supremacy-now-things-white-people-do-well_us_583c35f3e4b0c2ab94436b9e
This is what they think of us.
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DJ – Yeah, YF has shared articles showing how drug abuse, divorce, domestic abuse, & some other bad things are higher in red states. I haven’t checked out the accuracy of those statements.
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There is definitely a snobbery/condescension toward “red” (“flyover”) states. Very annoying and just so smug. I don’t know why they can’t hear themselves and how snooty (prejudiced?) that really sounds.
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Modern conservatism, not your Reagan conservatism;
http://ipolitics.ca/2016/11/28/the-thin-blue-whine-trump-leitch-and-crybaby-conservatism/
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Last I heard, adults with a college education were still something like 25% of the population. So it’s pretty crazy to call people with a high school diploma “uneducated.” My father-in-law has two Ph.D.s but I only have a B.A.–should he refer to me as “uneducated”?
My husband mentioned the other day that he thinks my younger brother may be the smartest member of my family . . . that brother is, incidentally, the only one of the five without some sort of degree, and he got a GED for high school. He’s very, very smart and well informed, and he has been very successful in his work. But he’d fall under the label “uneducated” to people nowhere near as smart–or as knowledgeable, or as wise–as he is.
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