111 thoughts on “News/Politics 11-8-16

  1. I think Trump should sue her.

    Funny thing is all the press ran with her bogus allegations, but the stories about this are missing from their coverage. I wonder why?…..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html

    “EXCLUSIVE: Troubled woman with a history of drug use who claimed that she was assaulted by Donald Trump at a Jeffrey Epstein sex party at age 13 MADE IT ALL UP
    On Friday, a lawsuit filed against Donald Trump by ‘Katie Johnson’ was dramatically dropped
    Speculation that the suit was dropped because of threats or a pay-off by Trump went viral
    But DailyMail.com has learned that the claims against Trump were fiction
    ‘Katie Johnson’s’ shocking allegations first emerged in a lawsuit filed in California in April
    She claimed she was lured to a sex party by pedophile Jeffrey Epstein where she was forced into rough role-play sex with presidential candidate
    On Wednesday Johnson suddenly cancelled a press conference at which she was set to reveal herself for the first time
    Before that, she told her story to DailyMail.com
    Clinton supporters had seized on the story as a possible knock out blow ”
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    It’s an exclusive because the rest of the media doesn’t care. They got their use of it, and don’t care to correct the record, at least not until voting is done anyway….

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  2. Democrats have been whining for some time now about outside actors (Putin) trying to influence the election. But in reality, it’s they and their favorite money man that have been doing so.

    https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2016/11/07/leaked-documents-reveal-expansive-soros-funding-to-manipulate-federal-elections/?singlepage=true

    “Leaked funding documents reveal an effort by George Soros and his foundations to manipulate election laws and process rules ahead of the federal election far more expansively than has been previously reported.

    The billionaire and convicted felon moved hundreds of millions of dollars into often-secret efforts to change election laws, fuel litigation to attack election integrity measures, push public narratives about voter fraud, and to integrate the political ground game of the left with efforts to scare racial minority groups about voting rights threats.

    These Soros-funded efforts moved through dozens of 501(c)(3) and (c)(4) charities and involved the active compliance with civil rights groups, government officials, and purportedly non-partisan groups like the League of Women Voters.

    The leaked documents also reveal deliberate and successful efforts to manipulate media coverage of election issues in mainstream media outlets like the The New York Times.”
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    “Soros funded multiple attacks on state voter identification laws in places such as Wisconsin, North Carolina and Virginia. While not successful at the trial court in North Carolina and Virginia, the Soros litigation won a victory in the appeals courts resulting in North Carolina election integrity laws being suspended for the presidential election. Worse, the litigation resulted in opinions by federal appeals courts which could potentially turn the Voting Rights Act of 1965 into a one-way political ratchet that helps Democrats, as long as Democrats can enforce racially polarized voting patterns.
    Soros documents show funding for the League of Women Voters and their effort “to catalyze greater participation from Black and Latino youth in advocacy both before and after elections.” The LWV is currently in federal court trying to stop efforts by Kansas, Georgia, and Alabama to verify that only citizens are registering to vote. The same organization intervened in a lawsuit by the Public Interest Legal Foundation to clean voter rolls in a Virginia jurisdiction with more registered voters than eligible citizens.
    Soros documents show funding of $250,000 for the North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP before the group then sued to stop the use of voter ID in North Carolina. Other groups in North Carolina that were on the funding documents include: “Action Institute NC – $75,000 over one year . . . North Carolina Latino Coalition – $75,000 . . . New World Foundation – $300,000 over one year . . . North Carolina Fair Share Education Fund – $75,000 . . . School for Creative Activism – $75,000.”

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  3. The story of the 13 year old got very little press. However, there was a story of a person who accused Trump of multiple sexual assaults that dominated the press for a couple of weeks. That story may have changed the outcome of the election.

    I think Trump should sue himself.

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  4. Tychicus, I would add that it is crude, depraved and insane vs. corrupt, paranoid and inept. However, they are both just flavors of liberalism, so I am voting for that cute dog with the conservative owners.

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  5. It goes back to KBells’ description of being on a fence with Clinton as lava on one side and Trump as manure on the other. I have always believed that Trump’s manure is just a few inches deep and there is lava beneath that manure. However, to be honest, with Trump none of us really know if he is 100% manure or if something worse lies underneath.

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  6. All I know is that we got Bill because lots of people voted for Perot to get even with Bush.
    And we have Obama because lots of Christians wouldn’t vote for a Mormon.

    I have no idea if Trump will be a good president. But I know”
    He doesn’t think the Iranians are our friends.
    He doesn’t think the police are our enemies.
    He ain’t Hillary.

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  7. Chas, Most of the Neo-Cons that have been most hostile to Iran are backing Hillary. Almost all of the Pro-Israel money in New York is backing Hillary. Trump advocates warming up relations with Russia, which is Iran’s closest ally. As you know, I have somewhat unorthodox foreign policy views, but I would not expect Trump to be more hostile to Iran than Hillary.

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  8. Although I’m not voting for either Clinton or Trump, a part of me would love to see an upset just for the spectacle of it all. The most partisan Dem I work with is annoyingly smug going into today, completely confident that “it will OK.” He’s one of the few Dems I know who actually *likes* Clinton, doesn’t just tolerate her. She’s just dandy in his eyes and yay for the Democrats for pulling out a 12-year rule via Obama-Clinton (I think he believes it’ll be a 16-year reign but I can’t believe she or the Dems would last in the White House beyond 4 more years; then again … )

    Sigh.

    Well, hey, at least the Obama term will be over with at long last. 🙂

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  9. Well, I still think/hope Trump will win. But I read one senator (I don’t remember the name) who was floating the idea that if Hillary wins, they should refuse to confirm her nominee to the SCOTUS. I like that idea. In fact, I like the idea of permanently reducing the size of the SCOTUS to 4. There is no constitutional reason that I know of that there has to be 9 or 8 or 7…. I think they hide behind their robes and their life-time appointments, and they basically legislate with impunity. I like the fact that there is only 8 of them right now. That stops them from taking some cases, and doesn’t allow them to legislate as easily. I would like to see congress move to reduce the number of justices…I believe they have the authority to do so, and if Trump wins, there might even be bipartisan agreement for it. Win/win. :–)

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  10. Ricky,

    I wasn’t going to post this because I didn’t want anyone to think I was directing it at them. But after reading your latest link from yet another NeverTrumper I feel I should, as a counter point. NeverTrumpers like the author of the piece you linked above, the sanctimonious type, are who this piece is directed to. It is not directed at anyone here.

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/nevertrumpers-moral-laziness/

    “The hour is late, and I feel compelled to join others in making a final appeal to the NeverTrumpers who are refusing to vote for the Republican nominee and thereby increasing the probability of, if not ensuring, a Hillary Clinton victory.

    My appeal is simple: Put your rigid moralism aside and do what is best not only for the country today but for our future.

    PJ Media co-founder and CEO emeritus Roger L. Simon made a similar appeal in a recent article in which he wrote that, given the extent of Hillary Clinton’s corruption, “it’s time for the NeverTrumpers to take a final look at their position.”

    Do they want to enable such a crime syndicate to be running the U.S. government? And if so, how do they expect it ever to end, if not now? Through litigation? Under whose auspices? Do they not think, if Hillary is elected, that the paramount goal of her administration will be to further entrench the syndicate, making it impermeable to change, turning the USA into the ghost of itself? These things happen in history.
    Not simple, is it?

    If I were writing my book on moral narcissism today, I would have to add a chapter on the NeverTrumpers, because — like it or not — their stance, while once idealistic, at this point seems rather too substantially based on self-regard. They want to have “clean hands” to avoid any tarnishing by the unseemly Mr. Trump.”
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    As I’ve mentioned before, you rarely win people to your side by talking down to, and belittling people. NeverTrumpers don’t seem to get that.

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  11. I just spoke to my neighbor who was returning from the polls. He says they were packed with a 40-60 minute wait, and that he was gonna try again after lunch. He said the crowd was bigger than he’s ever seen. That’s good news for at least one of the candidates, although which remains to be seen. 🙂

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  12. It would become more complicated should other justices step down, which is a likelihood. Blocking any and all nominees could backfire on the Republicans.

    It will be a difficult 4 years under Clinton — I have to say that the Democrats currently (barring the Bernie movement, but they’re largely now on board with Clinton from the looks of it) have a drive to unify within their party, no matter what.

    The Republicans currently are in shambles, with some saying the party hasn’t been conservative enough and others saying the party has become too conservative and needs to become more centrist. The diagnosis can’t even be agreed upon within the party at this stage, let alone the cure or direction it needs to go from here.

    Assuming Trump loses by a fairly slim margin, he will hang around, I think now. Krauthammer said this morning that the first test and post-election fissure could occur if Trump decides to get involved in “deposing” Ryan. The party could then continue on in a populist (rather than a conservative) vein that would newly define it.

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  13. FYI, I think it’s important to recognize what this vote means for middle-aged and older professional women. There was much talk in the gym this morning about wearing white pant suits to recognize the shattered glass ceiling and remember the suffragettes.

    This crowd was never going to vote for anyone but Sec. Clinton, no matter who ran against her. And, I admit, it was fun to think of a woman president, in the same way we could be proud 8 years ago of voting for a Black president.

    Style over substance, however, will always betray– which means there is no good choice in 2016.

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  14. I heard about the pantsuit brigade plans too. 🙂

    I was much more heartened by an African American becoming president (though I personally didn’t vote for him and think he’s proven to be a very poor leader since). (And it’s important to remember that he won with many, many white votes — I don’t think many of those who later disagreed with him did so on racial grounds.)

    It’s just really hard for me to get past the fact that the first woman president could be, well, Hillary Clinton. 😦

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  15. I’m indulging in wishful thinking, I know. Changing the number of justices would only work if there were bipartisan agreement. But enough people hate Trump to make it a conceivable possibility….if he wins. :–)

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  16. I had not heard about the pantsuit thing. I know a lot of women feel the weight of “the glass ceiling”, but for some reason, I do not. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist or that I have never experienced any part of it, I just don’t feel victimized by it because I haven’t perceived it as a systemic problem. Maybe I have not been very perceptive sometimes.

    I’ve been more conscious of racism–although, being white in a predominately white country, I don’t think I’ve ever experienced it at all. But the stories I have heard from others have been pretty heartbreaking. I do think there was value in having a black president, if only to validate the experience of a huge number of people in this country. But he was probably much better as a community organizer than a president. 😦

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  17. Considering that Clinton *wanted* to run against Trump (as opposed to the other Republicans), he has given her a surprising run for it and has delivered some shock and awe to her and her campaign in the course of it all. She’ll need some real recuperation time after this to get a second wind.

    Unfortunately, I think many of the other GOP candidates would have easily beat her in 2016 after 8 years of the Obama administration. But it wasn’t to be.

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  18. DJ,

    Republicans have themselves to blame as well. They’ve become mostly just as sucky as Dems. Not really an alternative. But when you listen to the Chamber of Commerce and big business, and do their bidding and not the will of the people, this is what you get. Don’t forget it has been them, the House and Senate, who have allowed Obama to run roughshod over the Constitution and rule of law. And they did that mostly because they agree with his agenda on immigration etc… They’ve earned this. I hope they learn a lesson here, but I doubt it. Either way, things have changed for the GOP. I for one want no part of the establishment version of it as it exists today. Either they change things, or I’ll keep voting for the candidate they despise the most. Sadly, that’s not Hillary, it’s Trump.

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  19. AJ,

    As I’ve mentioned before, you rarely win people to your side by talking down to, and belittling people. NeverTrumpers don’t seem to get that.

    I point you to a post four entries above yours where people acting on Christian conviction are blamed for the elections of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. I also point to text from your link and which you quoted, yourself,

    My appeal is simple: Put your rigid moralism aside and do what is best not only for the country today but for our future.

    Is that not cheeky? That guy knows what’s best for our future? Is he a believer? What if God has not provided a biblically qualified candidate? If He hasn’t, we are to act in faith and wait until He does, praying all the while for it. We’ve had forty years of an SC with a majority appointed by Republican presidents, Republicans have held both the Presidency and House for periods over that span, sometimes *at the same time,* and we’re still here where we are–boys marrying boys; pre-born babies being killed by the millions. We CAN’T KNOW that Donald Trump would be better than Hillary (for whom I also won’t vote). We do know he doesn’t meet any of the standards of a leader called for in Scripture.

    A facebook acquaintance of mine posted this:

    The worst thing one can do in a representative government is to grant legitimacy to a candidate you believe to be reprehensible, corrupt, unsupportable, and wicked simply to keep someone worse out. This is different than the non-conscience striking conduct of ordinary compromise, such as voting for someone qualified who you disagree with on some or many things but consider fit for the job.

    The mere fact that there is a legitimate debate over “Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who’s the more wicked?” between Trump and Clinton should lead to a lot more prayer and humility.

    Those of you who insist that people utterly convicted (a) that the entire system is wrongheaded or (b) that the two major party candidates are grossly unsuitable to serve for policy/character/both reasons MUST vote for whoever you think is the lesser evil are bullying us to violate our consciences and our deep convictions. Even if you think we are terribly misguided or dead wrong, conscience is a fearsome thing to say someone should violate. No one, especially Christians, should be bullied into being forced to take a walk of shame from the polling booth by other Christians.

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  20. Too big to jail….

    http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/11/the-government-has-prosecuted-nearly-every-violator-of-secrecy-rules-before-hillary-clinton/

    “The FBI is not recommending criminal charges regarding Hillary Clinton’s mishandled classified emails, an act of leniency that is bizarrely out of sync with how Washington traditionally punishes breaches of secrecy.

    The Obama administration has filed more charges against those who leak classified information than all previous presidential administrations combined, according to a statement made by CNN’s Jake Tapper that was marked “True” by Politifact. The culture of secrecy in Washington is so prevalent that former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden famously said in 2010, “Everything’s secret. I mean, I got an email saying ‘Merry Christmas.’ It carried a top secret NSA classification marking.”

    Even seemingly minor violations of these policies are met with little mercy.

    Shamai K. Leibowitz was given 20 months in prison for sharing FBI documents to a blogger that he believed showed a “violation of the law.” Just last month, Petty Officer First Class Kristian Saucier plead guilty to taking cellphone pictures inside a classified engine room on a nuclear sub, and while “no public suggestion has been made that he ever planned to disclose the photos to anyone outside the Navy,” he could face up to thirty years in prison, though the prosecution will likely pursue a shorter sentence.

    “I just don’t think it’s fair,” said Gene Pitcher, a retired Navy sailor who served alongside Saucier. “In reality, what [Clinton] did is so much worse than what Kris did. … I think it’s just a blatant double standard.””

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  21. Going to vote in a few…….

    And the thoughts that keeps going thru my head?

    Where’s Ron Paul when we really needed him? He could have won this…….

    😦

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  22. AJ, I find it interesting that you called Dan McLaughlin “the sanctimonious type” when his article was a defense of the character and rationality of Trump voters.

    Please note that he accepted the “binary choice” argument raised by you and other Trump supporters. However, he concluded as I have that Trump and Hillary are equally bad, just in different ways. That is the thing that Trumpkins who criticize NeverTrumpers never understand. We aren’t failing to support Trump because we “don’t want to get our hands dirty”. We really think he is as bad as her for all the reasons set forth in the thousands of Never Trump articles, of which McLaughlin’s was one of the best.

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  23. Just back from voting. The place was packed. The two women to register folk. The two to take the ballots and put them in the box. The two to sign people in. The two to hand you the papers to vote on and to show you how to fold them so the stamp was on the outside. The one to hold extra pencils. Oh, and there were two people sitting at the tables voting. And one came in as we left.

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  24. Chas – Recently I read that looking at the poll numbers from the ’92 election shows that Bush’s poll numbers were already below Clinton’s, & that those who voted for Perot came from Republicans & Democrats almost equally.

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  25. My rich, gay uncles liked Ross Perot. 🙂 Perot was an odd bird, to be sure. I wasn’t a fan. How much of the vote did he finally get in the end?

    No line at my polling place when I arrived, but one was starting to form as I left. I went mid morning to try to miss the before-work and early-bird crowd at least.

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  26. Oh, dear! I wore off white pants today. I wonder what that means?

    Clinton has done a number on the future of professional women. I wonder how many she is responsible for influencing their death while in the womb of their mothers? Oh, pardon me. Those were only fetuses. Clinton, well, she was never a fetus, but she was always a President in the Making while she was in the womb.

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  27. It would only mean something if you wore a matching jacket 🙂

    So I guess returns will come in at around 5 a.m. our (pacific time) tonight. As they’re saying on the news, it’ll either be a short night (Clinton) or a long night (Trump).

    I can’t seem to shake the Romney experience from my memory, when polls were tied going into election day and I was expecting a long night — but it ended, boom, with a thud, very quickly. 😦 Pretty disheartening, I really thought Obama would not get a 2nd term. And what a long, long term it’s been. Four years felt like 10.

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  28. From AP:

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    Women across the United States are wearing pantsuits Tuesday in a show of support for Hillary Clinton.

    Many were inspired by a Facebook group called Pantsuit Nation that has more than 2 million members. Some are also wearing white in honor of the suffragists who wore white when they fought for women’s voting rights in the early 1900s.

    In Alexandria, Virginia, Heather O’Beirne Kelly says she’s wearing a white pantsuit, inspired by the Facebook group and organized efforts to get women to wear white to vote.

    New Yorker Denise Shull tried to buy a white pantsuit on Amazon, but they were sold out. She’s wearing a black-and-white suit to support Clinton, but also to symbolize “women making progress.”
    ___________________________

    A black-and-white suit would match my pets and future bathroom …

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  29. I see that George W and Laura Bush skipped voting for either Trump or Clinton too, so I’m in good company 🙂

    45 minutes until the fist polls close …

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  30. Two people at the local high school to vote–me and my husband. 70% of the vote in my county is done by mail, so we were an anomaly. We are wearing our stickers.

    Hill’/ plane is scheduled to arrive more than an hour early, NYC to SFO– how does that happen?

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  31. Watch for frogs.

    (CBS’ Bob) Schieffer On Election Eve: ‘It’s As If The Nation Is Enduring Some Kind Of Curse’

    “I have seen a few, but I’ve run out of ways to say I’ve never seen one like this. It’s as if the nation is enduring some kind of curse,” Schieffer said on the CBS Evening News Monday. “What should we expect next – that it will rain frogs? I wouldn’t bet against it.”

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  32. I agree with those saying the Republicans need to expand their appeal to other demographics, perhaps especially Latinos. George W was able to start doing that.

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  33. DJ, Since you are a member of the press, I’m thinking you have inside info on who won that you can share with the rest of us.😀

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  34. Ricky, 6:53 — Nah. But I find it interesting that my neighbors to the south of me, Mexican-American, all voted against Trump (presumably for Clinton) and the neighbors to the north of me, white 65+ blue collar types, lifelong democrats, voted for Trump.

    And me in the middle with none of the above.

    That covers the entire span of this election, I do believe.

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  35. We’re watching Fox, and they seemed surprised by two things that don’t surprise me:

    (1) Trump is pulling ahead in Florida (too close to call): Florida is so heavily senior, Trump’s major constituency, that it doesn’t seem that huge a surprise.
    (2) Bayh is losing Indiana. If they’d seen the Indiana ads, that’s no surprise at all: Basically the ads proved that Bayh dropped out to become a lobbyist for a few years, and Bayh’s ads were defensive “no, I wasn’t a lobbyist.” A really bad taste in our mouths, that one, and no surprise locally.

    I’d like to see it close enough neither one has a mandate, whichever one wins. Currently, I lean toward hoping Clinton wins the very narrowest of margins and loses Congress and Senate. She’s likely to face legal trouble or to die in office fairly soon (her health doesn’t seem that good), so I don’t think she could be much of a threat at all under those circumstances. But I could go for either one winning as long as it isn’t a mandate. My husband thinks that if Trump wins, he’ll be assassinated, and that would of course bring us Pence. We’ll see. It’s all in God’s hands, but interesting theater.

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  36. Cheryl, Speaking of no mandate, NYT now gives Trump a 53% chance of winning, but projects Hillary to win the popular vote by 2%.

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  37. NYT site is mesmerizing. (It does say that those “forecasts” Ricky is citing can be expected to bounce around a lot early in the evening as returns flood in.)

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  38. I did want to go to bed early tonight……

    Trump wins but is found guilty of fraud in the Trump U case, sentenced to 4 years in jail , Pence becomes acting president but Senate is divided and refuses to cooperate with a president with no mandate. And we thought the US gov’t was gridlocked now…..

    In other news, all the senior citizens who voted for Trump can’t understand why their pension funds suddenly lost half their value.

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  39. Dow futures are now down 600 points. It is going to happen! HRW, It is going to be a great four years for the comedians.

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  40. Wow. This election is really something. I can’t believe how well Trump is doing. Wasn’t it just a couple weeks ago that some were saying that Hillary had it all sown up?

    Trump is currently ahead with the electoral votes, but I’m wondering if that’s going to flip over to Hillary as more results come in.

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  41. Kizzie, It looks to be over. If Trump wins Michigan or Pennsylvania, she can’t beat him. He looks like he may win both. Michigan does not appear to be close.

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  42. Wow, I never thought everyone would be on the edge of their seats watching Michigan on electioni night. I said for months that my vote wouldn’t matter because Michigan was in Clinton’s pocket.

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  43. It looks like the Republicans will hold the House and Senate. So a Trump win means they can start repealing ObamaCare and Obama’s economy killing nonsense regulations, and getting thru the stack of bills they have waiting for a President ready to sign them. This would be great news. 🙂

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  44. And Hillary is losing the popular vote by 43 mil to 40 mil at the moment. That should stop recent Dem efforts away from the electoral college toward the popular vote. Bonus! 🙂

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  45. Talk about your shock and awe … and outrage exploding on social media tonight.

    I do feel for her supporters who are in tears in clips being shown on TV, we’ve all been there in our younger, more fervently political years I think. 😦 Never easy.

    Looks like Trump is on the verge of this race being called. Who’d have thought? (Well, Debra I guess 🙂 — our on-target political pundit)

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  46. A Trump win in Michigan looks possible, but I think Clinton will overtake him. Much of the uncounted vote is in Detroit, Ann Arbor, and Flint, which will almost certainly go to Clinton. Also, Trump isn’t performing as well as expected in western Michigan, which tends Republican.

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  47. I don’t know – Michigan is a lot more red than four years ago. Should be close…

    Minnesota should also be interesting…

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  48. It has been worth staying up for this! The pollsters surprise and commentary of what happened is quite fascinating.

    Marijuana has been legalized for Donna and Michelle. It’s a gateway drug. I hope there will be no ill effects.

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  49. Janice, many of my stunned colleagues and friends are at least glad about that, they say they’ll need it after tonight. 🙂

    ‏@TenNapel on Twitter:

    Brexit. Cubs. Trump. Time to buy a lottery ticket.

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  50. I may have to eat my prediction on Michigan. Flint/Detroit/Ann Arbor aren’t delivering the Hillary vote I expected. We’re up to 85% of the state’s vote counted, and the Trump lead is holding.

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  51. Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper

    There’s no hiding what a stunning rebuke this reality of what voters want is to almost every single expert analysis, data point, etc

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  52. Very interesting stat: Of of the voters who didn’t think either candidate is qualified to be president, it seems that 70% actually voted for Trump.

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  53. Michelle, you and the world.

    Tomorrow will be interesting. (Already heard someone hopefully suggest that if they just wait 4 years all these old, uneducated people who voted for Trump will mostly be dead 🙂 ) lol

    Yeah, it’ won’t be pretty.

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  54. She’s not giving a concession speech, but she has made her concession call to Trump.

    Meanwhile NBC still doesn’t want to call Pennsylvania for Trump, even though Hillary has made the concession call and Trump is making his victory speech.

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  55. And she called him to offer congratulations.

    Those may be the last signs of grace we’ll see for a few days, there appear to be protests going on and so many (including some of those sitting around me right now in the newsroom) who are outraged. It won’t be pretty, people are starting to really explode I’m afraid.

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  56. I am not a Trump fan, but I am bothered by the sweeping ‘racist’ label being now applied to those who voted for him.

    There is some genuine nuance here about what is going on politically and culturally in this election, I fear too many will write it off with those ugly kinds of reasons they perceive.

    Judging from what I’m already seeing and hearing, the next few months may be a real challenge to our peaceful transfer of power tradition 😦

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  57. The Guardian article sounded exactly like the ravings our British-Canada-born and raised reporter launched into tonight, embellished with all the other things he thinks are so wrong with our country … oy

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  58. I’m at a loss to truly understand all the political undercurrents that produced tonight, but I’m hoping we can all take a breath and seriously examine what is a shifting and volatile political and cultural landscape in our midst.

    Pretty stunning, all of it, and I hope it doesn’t just all collapse into angry demonstrations, violence and shout fests

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  59. OK, I’m obviously the only one left still “up” (I left work around 1:30 a.m., early for an election night actually), but … I’m wound up now and can’t think of “sleeping,” so …

    It also occurs to me that holding all 3 branches of government — presidency, House, Senate — as the GOP will poses some distinct and very real pitfalls. It should remind us to pray all the more for those in “power.” It can go bad so fast with that much power to wield (power = corruption way too often).

    It’s why I think our form of government, with counter-balances and opposing political parties to prevent excesses, is so incredibly wise. Having it all, even for only 2 years, is potentially scary territory.

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  60. And as for US journalists who “saw” this coming, there’s Byron York:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-the-candidate-who-never-quit/article/2606760

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    Never in history have more people predicted a leading presidential candidate would quit the race, and never have more people been wrong. As Donald Trump wraps up his final days of frenzied campaigning, and voters go the polls, it’s worth noting how many times over the past two years there were people who said this day would never come. …

    … The bottom line is, over many long months, the political system occasionally lost its collective head over Trump, imagining all sorts of wild scenarios. No matter who wins on election night, that seems unlikely to change.
    _________________________________

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