Surprisingly good night for Clinton last night — I haven’t looked at the numbers in a few hours, but it wasn’t even close in California.
Byebye Bernie?
He’ll still kick up some dust in the month to come, he’ll be a pain in the butt for Democrats at the convention, he’ll get some concessions out of Clinton (who already has headed found it necessary to make some hard left turns on account of him); but it looks like last night took a big part of the wind out of the Bernie crusade.
At any rate, now “it’s on.” Clinton vs. Trump.
Oh, how I wish we could just start this campaign all over again … 😦
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump bring unique strengths and weaknesses to their general-election clash. But after months of polling, the Electoral College landscape on which they will compete largely mirrors the one that has determined the presidency in the past four cycles.
POLITICO’s analysis of polling data suggests 11 states will determine the next president: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. All were battleground states in the previous two elections.
But that doesn’t mean the map is constant: As the states’ demographics change, and the parties’ relative appeal among various groups transform, some states move toward one party or the other over the long term.
While those changes – combined with the unusual nature of Trump’s campaign – add an element of uncertainty to the campaign, most pollsters agree that Clinton and the Democrats will enter the general election with a perceptible advantage: Of the 11 states most likely to determine the victor, President Barack Obama won all 11 in 2008, and 10 of the 11 in 2012.
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The Sun Belt states (72 electoral votes): Colorado (22 percent nonwhite in 2012), Florida (33 percent), Nevada (36 percent), North Carolina (30 percent), Virginia (30 percent)
The “Blue Wall” states (74 electoral votes): Iowa (7 percent nonwhite in 2012), Michigan (23 percent), New Hampshire (7 percent), Ohio (21 percent), Pennsylvania (22 percent), Wisconsin (14 percent)
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I notice Sec. Clinton has come out swinging against the Republicans, and why shouldn’t she?
Do you suppose the “powers that be,” who have done such a sterling job of running their party into the ground will finally take a stand against Trump and have a fight at the convention?
What if they just said no in their back door settings and proposed a different candidate? Can anything be worse than an electoral college slaughter that destroys their majorities in the Senate and House if they fall in behind Trump? Why not throw up another sacrificial lamb and at least maintain some sort of respect for themselves?
How could it possibly be any worse? Many already are distancing themselves from their endorsement.
What a mess.
As to Bernie–so many of our young friends worked so hard to get out the vote; one got to shake his hand last night and noted on FB: “My life is now complete.”
I don’t remember ever feeling so strongly for any candidate. I don’t remember voting happily for any president. And yet, all these youthful emotions are powering so many I know. (Of course, now that I think of it, the most enthusiastic went to USC and have huge student loans, just sayin;). I feel sorry for them, even if I couldn’t support their candidate.
Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we will trust in the name of the Lord our God–we can do no else.
The Republican Party is like a bride scheduled to marry the biggest creep in the world. All intelligent family members want the wedding to be called off. Is that likely? No. Is it possible? Absolutely. The problem is that Trump has already “imploded” several times. It hasn’t made a difference yet.
Unlikely the Walker exchange could be pulled off, especially at this late date and with the convention right around the corner (and Trump having amassed more than enough delegates). But I’d certainly welcome some kind of alternative, regardless of the political bloodshed it might cause within the party.
So let’s deal with a few comments that came in on yesterday’s thread while I was at work.
AJ asked what motive other than corporate greed could cause employers to hire Mexicans rather than Americans. I mentioned my brother-in-law’s experience. He wasn’t looking for cheap labor. He was looking for labor that would show up sober. As Charles Murray has documented, lower and middle class Americans are increasingly slothful, stupid, criminal and immoral. I work with many employers. If they have hard work do be done, most Americans want no part of it.
Mexicans are dependable and they work hard.
I was also told to get to know some Americans on disability. I would not have made the comments I made unless I had been exposed to hundreds of the “disabled”. My job requires me to deal intimately with about three such persons a week. Well over half are more than capable of employment. Forget the tax breaks. When a Down’s Syndrome child has the courage to try to work, it is pitiful for millions of others to claim they are too disabled to work. I see 80 year olds still working. My own mother-in-law is 74, still working at Walmart (she loves her job) and is daily disgusted by the young healthy people she knows who are drawing disability.
There are still hard-working Americans, but they are becoming more and more rare. Too many prefer to loaf and listen to Trump and Sanders blame Mexicans, the Chinese, and “greedy” corporations. Too few are willing to confront their own responsibility for their circumstances.
Cheryl, The “disabled” people I deal with are not from poor families. They are not from inner cities. They are not poorly educated. They are generally well-educated people from middle-class families living in suburban Texas where jobs are plentiful. They just don’t think there is any job they are capable of performing.
Ricky, it might be that there isn’t a job they are capable of performing, for some of them at least. Perhaps they could work part-time jobs if the conditions were right (like the young lady I knew who worked a 10- to 15-hour job in addition to her disability pay, though she had a fatal condition and wouldn’t live much longer), but part-time jobs don’t usually bring in much income.
Some are faking it, I’m sure of that. But when I lived in Chicago, I would hear people complain about seeing “young, healthy” people sitting in the handicapped seats on the bus, and I’d wonder “How can you tell by looking at them how healthy they are?” Some jobs don’t show themselves on the features. If a person is in a wheelchair, you know they’re disabled. But not all disabilities put people in wheelchairs.
Wandering Views 
Now my fake university is being sued for fraud. I’m pretty sure I can have the judge removed from the case. It turns out he is a Yankee.
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I really need to find time today to read yesterday’s politics thread. Interesting discussion there, looks like.
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Surprisingly good night for Clinton last night — I haven’t looked at the numbers in a few hours, but it wasn’t even close in California.
Byebye Bernie?
He’ll still kick up some dust in the month to come, he’ll be a pain in the butt for Democrats at the convention, he’ll get some concessions out of Clinton (who already has headed found it necessary to make some hard left turns on account of him); but it looks like last night took a big part of the wind out of the Bernie crusade.
At any rate, now “it’s on.” Clinton vs. Trump.
Oh, how I wish we could just start this campaign all over again … 😦
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-battleground-states-224025
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Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump bring unique strengths and weaknesses to their general-election clash. But after months of polling, the Electoral College landscape on which they will compete largely mirrors the one that has determined the presidency in the past four cycles.
POLITICO’s analysis of polling data suggests 11 states will determine the next president: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. All were battleground states in the previous two elections.
But that doesn’t mean the map is constant: As the states’ demographics change, and the parties’ relative appeal among various groups transform, some states move toward one party or the other over the long term.
While those changes – combined with the unusual nature of Trump’s campaign – add an element of uncertainty to the campaign, most pollsters agree that Clinton and the Democrats will enter the general election with a perceptible advantage: Of the 11 states most likely to determine the victor, President Barack Obama won all 11 in 2008, and 10 of the 11 in 2012.
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The Sun Belt states (72 electoral votes): Colorado (22 percent nonwhite in 2012), Florida (33 percent), Nevada (36 percent), North Carolina (30 percent), Virginia (30 percent)
The “Blue Wall” states (74 electoral votes): Iowa (7 percent nonwhite in 2012), Michigan (23 percent), New Hampshire (7 percent), Ohio (21 percent), Pennsylvania (22 percent), Wisconsin (14 percent)
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I notice Sec. Clinton has come out swinging against the Republicans, and why shouldn’t she?
Do you suppose the “powers that be,” who have done such a sterling job of running their party into the ground will finally take a stand against Trump and have a fight at the convention?
What if they just said no in their back door settings and proposed a different candidate? Can anything be worse than an electoral college slaughter that destroys their majorities in the Senate and House if they fall in behind Trump? Why not throw up another sacrificial lamb and at least maintain some sort of respect for themselves?
How could it possibly be any worse? Many already are distancing themselves from their endorsement.
What a mess.
As to Bernie–so many of our young friends worked so hard to get out the vote; one got to shake his hand last night and noted on FB: “My life is now complete.”
I don’t remember ever feeling so strongly for any candidate. I don’t remember voting happily for any president. And yet, all these youthful emotions are powering so many I know. (Of course, now that I think of it, the most enthusiastic went to USC and have huge student loans, just sayin;). I feel sorry for them, even if I couldn’t support their candidate.
Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we will trust in the name of the Lord our God–we can do no else.
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Picking up on michelle’s comment, I heard some of Clinton’s criticisms of Trump, too, and couldn’t disagree with any of them. 😦
What a mess indeed.
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Michelle has asked good questions and raised good points.
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/06/08/rumors-scott-walker-accept-nomination-trump-implodes-convention/
The Republican Party is like a bride scheduled to marry the biggest creep in the world. All intelligent family members want the wedding to be called off. Is that likely? No. Is it possible? Absolutely. The problem is that Trump has already “imploded” several times. It hasn’t made a difference yet.
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Unlikely the Walker exchange could be pulled off, especially at this late date and with the convention right around the corner (and Trump having amassed more than enough delegates). But I’d certainly welcome some kind of alternative, regardless of the political bloodshed it might cause within the party.
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So let’s deal with a few comments that came in on yesterday’s thread while I was at work.
AJ asked what motive other than corporate greed could cause employers to hire Mexicans rather than Americans. I mentioned my brother-in-law’s experience. He wasn’t looking for cheap labor. He was looking for labor that would show up sober. As Charles Murray has documented, lower and middle class Americans are increasingly slothful, stupid, criminal and immoral. I work with many employers. If they have hard work do be done, most Americans want no part of it.
Mexicans are dependable and they work hard.
I was also told to get to know some Americans on disability. I would not have made the comments I made unless I had been exposed to hundreds of the “disabled”. My job requires me to deal intimately with about three such persons a week. Well over half are more than capable of employment. Forget the tax breaks. When a Down’s Syndrome child has the courage to try to work, it is pitiful for millions of others to claim they are too disabled to work. I see 80 year olds still working. My own mother-in-law is 74, still working at Walmart (she loves her job) and is daily disgusted by the young healthy people she knows who are drawing disability.
There are still hard-working Americans, but they are becoming more and more rare. Too many prefer to loaf and listen to Trump and Sanders blame Mexicans, the Chinese, and “greedy” corporations. Too few are willing to confront their own responsibility for their circumstances.
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Cheryl, The “disabled” people I deal with are not from poor families. They are not from inner cities. They are not poorly educated. They are generally well-educated people from middle-class families living in suburban Texas where jobs are plentiful. They just don’t think there is any job they are capable of performing.
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Ricky, it might be that there isn’t a job they are capable of performing, for some of them at least. Perhaps they could work part-time jobs if the conditions were right (like the young lady I knew who worked a 10- to 15-hour job in addition to her disability pay, though she had a fatal condition and wouldn’t live much longer), but part-time jobs don’t usually bring in much income.
Some are faking it, I’m sure of that. But when I lived in Chicago, I would hear people complain about seeing “young, healthy” people sitting in the handicapped seats on the bus, and I’d wonder “How can you tell by looking at them how healthy they are?” Some jobs don’t show themselves on the features. If a person is in a wheelchair, you know they’re disabled. But not all disabilities put people in wheelchairs.
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I didn’t mean “some jobs” but “some handicaps.”
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