I confess that upon reading the article I am more convinced than ever that Trump is a psychopath. He reminds me of The Joker or another Batman villain.
Sorry about the Thunder. After the first they should have been up at least a dozen instead of five (too many missed bunnies), which means in the second they would have been up 20+. Though fatigued at the end (resulting in the defense starting to fail), they would have held on for the victory.
I’m holding out for the ever-slight possibility that KD will join the Spurs in free agency so that they can crush the Warriors…
Ricky – Last night you wrote, “Children used to be taught to mind, to obey their parents.”
I agree that many parents today are not good disciplinarians, & maybe this lady is like that, too. But I also know that children have always been children, & that even the best, strictest parents can have a child who is strong-willed enough to disobey. I’ve read many biographical stories of people recounting the things they got away with (without their parents’ knowledge) even though their parents were strict.
A former friend was so strict & firm with her kids that at least one of her daughters was actually afraid of her. But that didn’t stop her strong-willed son from doing some very stupid things. She often said he needed to be hit by a 2×4 upside the head to learn anything. (But no, she did not abuse her kids by hitting them with 2x4s, although I’m sure she was tempted. 🙂 )
My real objection to everyone piling on the mother was that it was done immediately, before any real information about her actual actions or inactions were firmly known. Too many people jump to judgmental conclusions about others without knowing all the facts.
As I wrote on Facebook, if info comes out that she was indeed not paying attention to him (rather than merely being distracted taking care of another child) then I will change my mind about her. But to begin with, I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt.
It’s the whole internet bullying trend (that we saw also with the lion vs. dentist story) that is so disturbing. Everyone jumps to conclusions and piles on, viciously, especially when there’s an animal involved. I always feel for the targets of that treatment, when millions of strangers suddenly HATE you and wish you every kind of evil harm. People, people.
And, yes, I thought the same thing, the kid was 4 and they won’t always “obey.” 🙂 Kids will be kids. I’m guessing the parents have beaten themselves up over this already. Time for the rest of society to let that aspect of it go.
ricky, funny comparison of trump to the batman villains, I can actually see that. 🙂
Karen, also spanking does not work for every child. I know a child who would laugh when spanked – not effective and the practice was discontinued. The child is now a very well behaved teen.
In concept, I’ve never liked the idea of those springy “leashes” for small children, but … in a situation like that it might not have been a bad idea to have one.
At least you’d hopefully feel the warning tug of a prone-to-wander little one if your attention was focused somewhere else for the moment.
Donna, when I was very small, we had one of those walking harnesses. I don’t remember that it was ever used, but it was around. My father said he would be harnessed at the end of a rope tied to a tree in the yard when he was a toddler, so he could play with all the outdoor toys but not wander off. I can see why the practice was discontinued, as the potential for accidental strangulation would be enormous. Also, a four year old would be quite capable of getting out of such a device.
I currently have a four year old nephew, and while he would be too cautious to attempt to enter an animal’s pen, his elder brother would not have been. That nephew was extraordinarily focused on carrying out whatever he got it into his mind to do. Falls (like when he climbed over his crib railings or attempted to fly down the stairs), discipline, reasoning, explanation, nothing deterred him. He would keep on even if it hurt. Yet, as he grows, increasing maturity is doing what nothing else could do.
From the time I was two, if either of my parents told me to stay somewhere, I stayed. My sister did the same. My son did the same. If we disobeyed, we were spanked. We very very rarely disobeyed. We did not want to be spanked. Most modern American kids are like the boy climbed into the gorilla pen. They are feral.
There is a relationship between lax parenting of young children and helicopter parenting of older kids. Because we trained our son to obey and be responsible, we felt comfortable letting him drive to Austin or Houston while in high school. He picked his college. He picked his major. We did not have to hover over him as a parent of a recently (or still) feral child.
Most of the 1 to 4 year olds in our church are feral. Their mothers are exhausted from dealing with disobedient children. Their fathers don’t look forward to coming home to chaos. I thank God my wife read the Bible and James Dobson and dared to discipline. I did the same, but as a stay at home Mom she gets the lion’s share of the credit.
Below is an article by a Cruz supporter, pleading for Trump to be gracious and attempt to unify the party.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/05/it_is_time_for_trump_to_unify_the_party.html
I confess that upon reading the article I am more convinced than ever that Trump is a psychopath. He reminds me of The Joker or another Batman villain.
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This is what it is like to be Trump’s business partner:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/31/us/politics/donald-trump-hong-kong-riverside-south
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rw: Page not found (NYT piece).
Sorry about the Thunder. After the first they should have been up at least a dozen instead of five (too many missed bunnies), which means in the second they would have been up 20+. Though fatigued at the end (resulting in the defense starting to fail), they would have held on for the victory.
I’m holding out for the ever-slight possibility that KD will join the Spurs in free agency so that they can crush the Warriors…
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Ricky – Last night you wrote, “Children used to be taught to mind, to obey their parents.”
I agree that many parents today are not good disciplinarians, & maybe this lady is like that, too. But I also know that children have always been children, & that even the best, strictest parents can have a child who is strong-willed enough to disobey. I’ve read many biographical stories of people recounting the things they got away with (without their parents’ knowledge) even though their parents were strict.
A former friend was so strict & firm with her kids that at least one of her daughters was actually afraid of her. But that didn’t stop her strong-willed son from doing some very stupid things. She often said he needed to be hit by a 2×4 upside the head to learn anything. (But no, she did not abuse her kids by hitting them with 2x4s, although I’m sure she was tempted. 🙂 )
My real objection to everyone piling on the mother was that it was done immediately, before any real information about her actual actions or inactions were firmly known. Too many people jump to judgmental conclusions about others without knowing all the facts.
As I wrote on Facebook, if info comes out that she was indeed not paying attention to him (rather than merely being distracted taking care of another child) then I will change my mind about her. But to begin with, I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Here’s an article a friend shared with me, by a witness who does not think it was the mother’s fault. . .
http://www.foreverymom.com/witness-to-cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-death-it-wasnt-the-parents-fault/#.V0zW2xSVyxc.facebook
Our Kbells commented on my FB post that four year olds are very fast, & can disappear before you know it.
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It’s the whole internet bullying trend (that we saw also with the lion vs. dentist story) that is so disturbing. Everyone jumps to conclusions and piles on, viciously, especially when there’s an animal involved. I always feel for the targets of that treatment, when millions of strangers suddenly HATE you and wish you every kind of evil harm. People, people.
And, yes, I thought the same thing, the kid was 4 and they won’t always “obey.” 🙂 Kids will be kids. I’m guessing the parents have beaten themselves up over this already. Time for the rest of society to let that aspect of it go.
ricky, funny comparison of trump to the batman villains, I can actually see that. 🙂
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It’s like a mob mentality that takes hold with these online attack campaigns. Very disturbing.
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Indeed.
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Karen, also spanking does not work for every child. I know a child who would laugh when spanked – not effective and the practice was discontinued. The child is now a very well behaved teen.
Ricky, for some grim amusement: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary
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In concept, I’ve never liked the idea of those springy “leashes” for small children, but … in a situation like that it might not have been a bad idea to have one.
At least you’d hopefully feel the warning tug of a prone-to-wander little one if your attention was focused somewhere else for the moment.
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Donna, when I was very small, we had one of those walking harnesses. I don’t remember that it was ever used, but it was around. My father said he would be harnessed at the end of a rope tied to a tree in the yard when he was a toddler, so he could play with all the outdoor toys but not wander off. I can see why the practice was discontinued, as the potential for accidental strangulation would be enormous. Also, a four year old would be quite capable of getting out of such a device.
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I currently have a four year old nephew, and while he would be too cautious to attempt to enter an animal’s pen, his elder brother would not have been. That nephew was extraordinarily focused on carrying out whatever he got it into his mind to do. Falls (like when he climbed over his crib railings or attempted to fly down the stairs), discipline, reasoning, explanation, nothing deterred him. He would keep on even if it hurt. Yet, as he grows, increasing maturity is doing what nothing else could do.
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But you knew that when he was 4 and watched for it. Everyone knows their child best. Tragedy all around and not being helped by social media.
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From the time I was two, if either of my parents told me to stay somewhere, I stayed. My sister did the same. My son did the same. If we disobeyed, we were spanked. We very very rarely disobeyed. We did not want to be spanked. Most modern American kids are like the boy climbed into the gorilla pen. They are feral.
There is a relationship between lax parenting of young children and helicopter parenting of older kids. Because we trained our son to obey and be responsible, we felt comfortable letting him drive to Austin or Houston while in high school. He picked his college. He picked his major. We did not have to hover over him as a parent of a recently (or still) feral child.
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Most of the 1 to 4 year olds in our church are feral. Their mothers are exhausted from dealing with disobedient children. Their fathers don’t look forward to coming home to chaos. I thank God my wife read the Bible and James Dobson and dared to discipline. I did the same, but as a stay at home Mom she gets the lion’s share of the credit.
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Roscuro, I got a kick out of the North Korean endorsement. Trump and Kim could form the Axis of Insanity.
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